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ah ah, ah. hi a semi ok to down the stream. i'm going to start with some distressing pictures from afghanistan. if this is not what you want to watch right now, i'm just gonna give you a moment so you can look away from the screen. and now let's play the video. what you're looking at right here, the beaten, and bruce bodies of journalists in afghanistan, they were attacked because they were porting on a women's protest. journalists were arrest states, putting south and beaten. you may remember the taliban held a press conference in august the 17th and that, that press conference, they were off about press freedom. this is what they told the journalists in the

room. what are the fact we are committed to media within our cultural frameworks? private media can continue to be free and independent. they can continue their activities with some requests for the media. islam is a very important value in our country and nothing should be against islamic values when it comes to the activities of the media. therefore, islamic values should be taken into account. the media should not work against this national value against national. you know, the slam that we should have fill up this, i mean so how are janice managing to work in afghanistan right now? joining us for this conversation, we have alley zia and gfc. thank you so much for making time for the stream alley. welcome back to the stream. please remind our audience, who you are and what you can see. i'm left on the line correspondence for i'll just they're not on my fatty hello. welcome to the street.

please introduce yourself to our stream audience. this is the jordan list. have you and gypsy tell our audience who you are and what you do. hello, i am just figure jan kaiser and i'm the advocacy and communications director at the committee to protect journalists, a global press, freedom group. thank you. get, as always, you are part of the conversation watching as well. if you're on youtube, you can be part of the program, jump into the comment section and help us with your 4 still questions for our panel . then i'll start with some new rules that the taliban have imposed. allie, can you tell us about these rules? so it's basically 11 rules, essentially majority, right? they want them to go by certain cultural standards. so one of them is that you

can't insult islam, which is something that's part of the old media law that you can't and sold, you know, essentially famous figures or high profile figures. again, the not entirely new, but the most dangerous and the most worrying parts are the ones where they say, you have to coordinate with the government media and information center in your reporting. and that you have to somehow offer some kind of a detailed report on your activity. and again, the, the big problem with this is that there's no real details about it. you know, what, what for instance, what does that report entail? does that mean? if i'm tolo tv, i have to give a report of everything i broadcast, you know, over the last day or week, or month or whatever. or if i'm just a journalist, do i have to somehow, you know, give them some kind of an accounting of what i've been doing for the last,

whatever period of time. and if you look at these rules, the versions that we've got there, very short sentences, which makes it even more dangerous, because then that leaves it completely open to the interpretation of whoever you know, decides whether you're acting appropriately or not. and the one thing i want to go back to is, what is your last that on august 17th, the thing about islam being important and honest on of course it's important. i want to sign. it's always been important. it's on, it's always been part of the law. it's always been part of the constitution. it's always been part of the education system. the media has always worked super hard not to do anything that would be offensive to the muslim majority of the country. we never had some kind of a past where on this la mac, things were somehow being broadcast or published and i honestly think it just, it literally would not happen. and so for them to bring that up, it's kind of a red herring. it's like, well,

how are you different from what came before you in that sense because they were just as adamant about that as well. jessie, i saw you nodding as, as alley was talking about the difficulty of understanding what the rules meant and how you operate within them. tell us more. absolutely. i mean, i think one of the things, 1st of all, we should be grateful all around the world for the last 20 years during which the media landscape in afghanistan became very vibrant. a lot of new journalists, young journal, there's a lot of training, a lot of innovation, and we are now faced with a situation where at the very start of this new period. there are these broad and sweeping rules that he has just has just spelled out which make it very unclear what media can and cannot say. so essentially, journalists are likely to censor themselves out of self preservation,

which is likely what the taliban is hoping for. and we are very, very concerned about this aspect of, of this new development. and we also need to remember that as this is happening in a context where there is a humanitarian crisis, where the people of going to need local media to for example, report on developments around coded. there's, there are public health issues where the media always plays a role in informing the public. and here we are seeing these, these rather sweeping new rules coming into play. and this is very, very worrisome. the, i want to share something with you on twitter. this is one of our with a community who is being a little bit sarcastic care, but lou number one, there are no journalists, rules to, to 11. refer to rule number one. now you have been trying to work with these rules . how did you manage when you were reporting?

and the one thing that up to now i live on don't have any law for the media space to take law that was through media was through go and i meant that all the taliban with the rules of journalists and all this is not. we have a specific dollar bond, the to known and unknown, new rules. and this the some off rules is not new for us gone media, for example, about religion side about culture side. and they told that no one is allowed to gains to religion and also gains calm cultures. and this was the issues in oscar in the main to and last 20 years. no one media. and no one

journalist was allowed to do again about the religion of gone peoples, both the culture of peoples. and this was also the part of oscar in the main twos and pasco, and i'm in law media. and i think this is some of our, it's not new off. this was a fart into timing made ya were working in kennesaw for example, who are running news a we're running into time and programs and these are, they're all very solve your entertainment programs. they already stop music. they already talk, comedian shows, and this is the issue for me. and yet before it's not clear in the the rules and to we can journalists

and media thing for a basic law. when can turn in a to or media, don't have a specific law from the bond from the going to main. it's revery. it's not easy to work in the ground, it's not easy to do the job and or will be phase the difficult situation. ok, so i want to bring in the online media manager of f media group alley. he makes a point about rules and i'm going to put this to alley, an alley. immediately react off the back of this. okay. don't take a pause immediate yet, and i have to agree with it. i'm just curious about what you have to say. have a listen. a few days ago it's been announced some rules for media. but these rules are not more different from the previous government. taliban emphasizing and

negative, and again, the nation and i guess you have gotten them and so i think every country has their own definition from the freedom look there. right. you know, and they brought this up as well that you know, they, they were restrictions on the media and the past having to do with religion, having to do what you said about certain famous figures in the past. that's always been in the media a lot. that's not disputed and as i said, i can think of any major cases where anyone tried to go against those. what is scary and what is difficult is this idea that everything has to somehow go through the ta lavonne and everything has to go through this government media office. and at the same time, the issue is this is that it was difficult operating under the previous government . no one thing that that was easy. either they didn't pick up your phone calls the,

you know, they had, they had online smear campaigns. they had, they had ways of finding attacking you if they wanted to. they had ways of limiting your access of, of limiting your output of questioning the validity of your reports and trying to sort of defame or demean you. they definitely did that. but the difference is that the taller bon, have openly physically attack journalists, and these are in district somewhere. this is in the middle of the city of calvo. and these journalists were not doing, they were doing the most simple things. i mean the, the, it's a lot of the newspaper journalist that you just showed earlier. they were out of protest, maybe like 50 women. right. they were, they were covering a tiny little protest and they were arrested and physically beaten the way the communists used to beat their preventing. if i may want to show our audience what that looks like, so this is from vacuum api. he's posted on twitter. i'm going to play it and then just look in the background. you can see see the big thing happening in the

background. look at that. that neighborhood is one of the most active, vibrant populated areas of the city. this isn't and it'll be just right, but that is what is a whip. what is that? what that code probably is they, they usually have like sometimes they take like a switch from a tree where they take like an electrical switch. i haven't actually seen like a physical when i've seen them shoot into the air. i've seen them find like pebbles and stones to throw at people to the 1st time. so anything that's at their disposal . so we have a situation where journalists just for being journalists of being beaten or being arrested. i just want to bring in the voice of the deputy director of south asia of amnesty international, who is joining the dots between random beatings and what that means for reporting in afghanistan. he, she is the type of man when they 1st came to cobbler,

to call the african it's done on the 15th of august, made a lot of process that they will respect international drive law. they will project journalists and the freedom of expression. but in the weeks that followed, annexed into national and so many other human rights organizations have documented the beach. the tyler bond had been violating the rights of germany and cracking down on the freedom of expression. we have documented in the last 5 weeks, the way in which journalist had been arrested beaten, prevented from doing that job. this is a clear indication that the taliban is not tolerated. that the taliban is preventing demons from coming to work from education. and it's preventing, generally from reporting on these are on the execution that are taking place in africa. just pick out that thought, while this is all true, i mean, we have been documented this as documenting this as well. and i think what's important to note here is that this is happening in the context of great

instability in the country. a lack of clarity, a lack of. 5 understanding really what are the intentions of the taliban? because they say one thing as was just pointed out and are doing something entirely different. i mean, i'd like to highlight the, the case of the conflict of her martez or somebody who was detained by the taliban since september 7th. and there are now rumors and i should very be very specific about the there are rumors circulating that he may be executed, but the taliban has issued a statement denying that this is the case. now this is, this is highly problematic because essentially in addition to these kinds of situations, you have the tal upon going from house to house. we have received direct reports from journalists, letting us know that the taliban has come to their home,

their sister pretending to be an employee of the household, and denied that the person was there or was coming back, et cetera, as a way to avoid being targeted directly people have gone into hiding. people have had to change houses in order to avoid being caught in a situation where they can not escape the taliban. i think it's also important to note the issue of women journalists being pushed off the being denied entry to their workplace. and this happened with the national african broadcaster, this is mark, it goes well beyond the self censorship and the denial of the right to work and participate in public life. but it really is an attempt to erase the, the public presence of women. it is an attempt to raise their voice,

to erase the ability of, to reflect women's reality as part of the public debate. and this is a very, very serious matter that will have long standing consequences for the women of afghanistan. they are, we're talking about john is being harassed and attacked and it is not a se reticle situation for you. i am going to show a headline from audi 0 dot com. have a look, cale my, on my laptop. it's never good news. when journalists become the news attack on afghan reporter test taliban media, freedom pledge, see what happened to you. 25 for good to m. i'm out from my all face. and carla was seated on talk to the shari. now, the new city of chicago, i arrived your day in 201030 and this time

i was reporting about the labor people, the local workers, and your is a place that labored. the people are coming every day at the morning and some of the people's war need workers need labor hours, they're taking them and they're paying them. and after they are going with them for this that i come the what's the situation in this days? what's the situation about this? when government change the political situation change, how is the word, how is yours live? and when i arrived here, when i interview laborers 1st, and after this, like i'm remain, is taking the end. i'm taking the off the slip or

by my phone in this time in the one armor we call lane cause a rico it come where me is wesley. in the fall, the bonds are out. come from the waco and directly they attacked me saying my mobile, they took also the camera from my camera main. and when we show the id cards that we're to, oh, you were 2 navy, your internet list after they also beach me and the guy points me and they took everything off or media equipment and they go to the we call in. they go very quickly from the area and i off, we lost him. oh, but up to up to no, i didn't receive my phone up to now i didn't receive

a war camera. camera issues was also discussed by all of our religious person on me and me just ask if i make, if i've got lots of questions for you and i want to get to those questions. i'm a very quick question for you. are you a journalist right now in afghanistan to can you still be a journalist? but i'm sorry, i'm not still be a journalist because i left my job was so many create your was so many problem and for this, by job. so they be a journalist. i'm out of you. all right? we have so many something you have so many questions here added. can you make it quick cuz i want you to talk to our audience and they really want to talk to you make it great. sure. this is my point. listen to his story. he was interviewing day laborer. i live in that neighbourhood where he's talking about. it's one of the

most heavily traffic, one of the most busy central areas of the city. he was just out in the middle, a 10 am interviewing day laborers and he was beat for that. the, it's a lot the rules guys were reporting on a small protest, maybe 20 women, maybe 50 women. these are the most basic points of journalism. nobody was doing anything remotely controversial and they were beaten for simply doing their job. and it makes people want to not do their jobs anymore. alley and gypsy, i'm going to ask you to do this very quickly for me and also as many questions and thoughts inquiries on youtube as you can. alley starting with you raja off. thank you roger. what can be done to make the taliban respect? press freedom in afghanistan, alley, instant out. there needs to be pressure and also outside journalists need to stop giving in to their demand and cooperating with them. and working in ways that sort

of what's the word like make it ok the the sort of provisions they're putting on the outside journalist by that you mean international journalists? yeah. the ones who come in applying to sell adora quick response from you please. gypsy, everything. the taliban says is always always qualified with as long as it aligns with an interpretation of each lab. so why does anyone believe that may be different than in the past? just, well, i mean, i'm not sure that people really want to believe that they will be different. we certainly have no reason to believe at this point that they will be different. all of the actions that we're seeing is point to something entirely different, right? that they are in fact going to remain the same and take on these draconian measures and basically, and still fear terror and censorship. however, what we do think is different is the ability of the international community to

exert pressure. as allie mentioned, that there is, it's, and it's extremely important. i mean, you know, every government, everyone who comes to power needs the economy to function. and that is one of the ways in which the international community will continue to engage with the sun. because otherwise, the people will face and even greater humanitarian crises. so the us will remain present and upcoming. a lot of you and agencies are still there. we, it is our hope and our ask that journalists who remain in the country be supported to be able to do their work so that the country doesn't fall into a black hole of information and information and lockout. ok. and continue. i'm going to go to youtube and then i'm going to fit in one more voice. who's on the video? separate on youtube says afghans should leave afghanistan if they want to do whatever they want. and then i'm going to go to

a journalist who was in afghanistan. we didn't feel that he could practice his craft and i've got it done. so now he is in paris. that is a tab nori have listen, have a look. i see no feature for the freedom of expression in africa and fee media cannot survive unless they go by the rules and regulations by the top one to them and talk on of already set of rules that restricts freedom of expression and free media. but on the other hand, the financial crisis against the media has affected them so badly and we already see over a $150.00 media close since apollo and t o are so clearly talking on or against freedom of expression and free media will gradually die either bio stick rules are taught on or by the financial crisis in the market.

i asked you, shaking her head about service, comment about if you, what do you, what you want don't live in afghanistan. that's a privilege that not everybody has right alley. we're going to wrap up with your final folk. go ahead, make it brief. yes, it's a privilege and it's also a tragedy. look. it was one of the best journalists, the novel, honest on, and he's currently in france because he feels he can do his job. proper yard is in the same situation. he, you know, put in so much effort. he will, you know, and now he can't do his job. i ali and zia and jesse, this is a story that will go on and on and on. we really appreciate your insights today to help us understand what's happening to journalism in afghanistan. thanks for watching everybody. thank you for your comments. questions for you next time? ah,

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