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if you have massachusetts who will be holding hearings on the matter on thursday, wrote that the least information was quote, appalling and adding that facebook has completely forfeited the benefit of the doubt when it comes to protecting young people. and he called on the company to abandon plans to launch a version of instagram for kids. under 13. instagram says it is developing a feature to actually suggest when young people should stop viewing it's content in it. you could put your instagram on pause for a period of time if you're in a moment of vulnerability. maybe you're going to break up. you just switched high schools. facebook claims the published internal documents were taken out of context . robert olds al jazeera. ah, this is al jazeera, these are the headlines from a french president speaker, because he has been sentenced to a years heis the rest of the corruption. because he was saying guilty of
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year old man died during don't raves in the occupied west bank. israel says the man was shot after an exchange of gunfire. and the palestinian man was shot dead near the dancers really barrier fence administrative health in gulf assistance. really, soldiers opened far on the 41 year old bird hunter who later died from his injuries . cutter's foreign minister has described actions by the taliban on girls education as disappointing, and the step backwards mohammed ban of the rough man i'll fanny spoke after holding talks with the youth. foreign affairs, chief joseph burrow pro democracy protested in sudan have gathered in the capital to condemn the recent to attempt social support for the civilian faction of the transitional government to dance military has been politicians failing to govern effectively, but protested, accused the army of poor thing to seize power, and that c o 2 dates to stay with us here own al jazeera. the stream is up next.
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how many nukes has too many new america has in many ways driven the arms race parties are much more like the british parties down to the there are fewer regulation to own a tiger than their, our own a dog. how can this be happening? your weekly take on us politics and society, and that's the bottom line news . high a semi ok to down the stream. i'm going to start with some distressing pictures from afghanistan. if this is not what you want to watch right now, i'm just gonna give you a moment so you can look away from the screen. and now let's play the video. what you're looking at right here at the beaten, and bruce bodies of journalists in afghanistan, they were attached because they were porting on a women's protest. the journalists were arrest states putting cells. i'm beaten,
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you may remember the taliban held a press conference in august. the 17th and at that press conference, they were off about press freedom. this is what they told the journalists in the room. what are the fact we are committed to media within our cultural frameworks? private media can continue to be free and independent. they can continue their activities with some requests for the media. islam is a very important value in our country and nothing should be against islamic values when it comes to the activities of the media. therefore, islamic values should be taken into account. the media should not work against this national value against the national unit. the slam that we should have fill up this, i mean so how are janice managing to work in afghanistan right now? joining us for this conversation. we have alley zia and gfc. thank you so much for making time for the stream alley. welcome back to the stream. please remind our
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audience, who you are and what you could see. i'm left off on line correspondence for i'll just, they're not on my fatty hello. yeah, welcome to the stream. please introduce yourself to our stream audience. this is the journalist with that and just say tell our audience who you are and what you do. hello, i am just sick again, kaiser and i'm the advocacy and communications director at the committee to protect journalists, a global press, freedom group. thank you. get, as always, you are part of the conversation watching as well. if you're on youtube, you can be part of the program, jump into the comment section and help us with your 4 still questions for our panel . then i'll start with some new rules that the taliban have imposed. allie, can you tell us about these roles?
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so it's basically 11 rules, essentially as much i said, right, they want them to go by certain cultural standards. so one of them is that you can't insult islam, which is something that's part of the old media law that you can't and sold, you know, essentially famous figures or high profile figures. again, that's not entirely new, but the most dangerous and the most worrying parts are the ones where they say, you have to coordinate with the government media and information center in your reporting. and that you have to somehow offer some kind of a detailed report on your activity. and again, the, the big problem with this is that there's no real details about it. you know, what, what for instance, what does that report entail? does that mean? if i'm told tv i have to give a report of everything i broadcast, you know, over the last day or week, or month or whatever. or if i'm just a journalist,
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do i have to somehow, you know, give them some kind of an accounting of what i've been doing for the last, whatever period of time. and if you look at these rules, the versions that we've got, they're very short sentences, which makes it even more dangerous, because then that leaves it completely open to the interpretation of whoever you know, decides whether you're acting appropriately or not. and the one thing i want to go back to is, what is your law said on august 17th, the thing about islam being important and honest on of course, it's important. i want to sign. it's always been important and it's always been part of the law. it's always been part of the constitution. it's always been part of the education system. the media has always worked super hard not to do anything that would be offensive to the muslim majority of the country. we never had some kind of a past where on this la mac,
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things were somehow being broadcast or published and honestly they could just, it literally would not happen. and so for them to bring that up, it's kind of a red herring. it's like, well, how are you different from what came before you in that sense because they were just as adamant about that as well. jesse, i say nodding is as ali was talking about, the difficulty of understanding what the rules meant and how you operate within them. tell us more. absolutely. i mean, i think one of the things, 1st of all, we should be grateful all around the world for the last 20 years during which the media landscape in afghanistan became very vibrant. a lot of new journalists, young journal, there's a lot of training, a lot of innovation, and we are now faced with a situation where at the very start of this new period. there are these broad and sweeping rules that has just has just spelled out which make it very
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unclear or what media can and cannot say. so essentially, journalists are likely to throw themselves out of self preservation, which is likely what the taliban is hoping for. and we are very, very concerned about this aspect of, of this new development. and we also need to remember that as this is happening in a context where there is a humanitarian crisis, where the people of going to need local media to for example, report on developments around cove. it, there's a, there are public health issues where the media always plays a role in informing the public. and here we are seeing these, these rather sweeping new rules coming into play. and this is very, very worrisome. the, i want to share something with you on twitter. this is one of our with a community who is being a little bit sarcastic care, but rule number one. there are no journalists move to 211 research
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a room number one. now you have been trying to work with these rules. how did you manage when you were reporting? and one thing that up to now i live on, don't have any law or the media space, a lot the, what's through the media, what's the rules of going? i meant that all the taliban was the rules of journalists and all this is not. we have specific rules on the to known as a noun new rules. and this the some off rules is not new for us. god, media, for example, about religion side, about culture sides. and they told us that no one is allowed to again, to religion. and also i gains calm cultures. and this was
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the issues in the past. going to me just last 20 years. no one media and no one journalist was allowed to do again about the religion of both, both the culture of peoples. and this was also the part of oscar and the main twos and was calling him in law media. and i think this is almost part is not new of issues or far into timing media. we're working in kennesaw for example, who are running news a we're running into time and programs. and these are all very solve your entertainment programs. they already stop music. they already stop comedian shows and this is the issue for me before it's
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not clear in the the rules and we can journalists and media if thing for a basic law, when can turn to media, don't have a specific law from the taliban from the going to main, it's very, it's not easy to work in the ground, it's not easy to do the job and or will be faith. the difficult situation. ok, so i want to bring in the online media manager of f media group alley. he makes a point about rules and i'm going to put this to alley, an alley, immediately react off the back of this. ok. don't take a pause and yet they have to agree with it. i'm just curious about what you have to say. have a listen. a few days ago, it's either been announced some rules or media,
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but these rules are not more different from the previous government been emphasizing and they are in negative and again, the nation and i guess we haven't gotten them. and so i think every country has their own definition from the freedom look there, right? you know, and they brought this up as well that you know, they, they had, they were restrictions on the media and the past having to do with religion, having to do what you said about certain famous figures in the past. that's always been in the media a lot that's not disputed. and as i said, i can think of any major cases where anyone tried to go against those. what is scary and what is difficult in this idea that everything has to somehow go through the taller bond and everything has to go through this government media office. and at the same time,
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the issue is this is that it was difficult operating under the previous government . no one thing that that was easy. either they didn't pick up your phone calls, you know, they had, they had online smear campaigns. they had, they had ways of finding attacking you if they wanted to. they had ways of limiting your access of limiting your output of questioning the validity of your reports and trying to sort of defame or demean you. they definitely did that. but the difference is that the taller bon, have openly physically attack journalists and these aren't in district somewhere. this is in the middle of the city of calvo. and these journalists were not doing, they were doing the most simple things. i mean the, the, it's a lot that, or the newspaper journalist that you just showed earlier. they were out of protests, of maybe like 50 women. right. they were, they were covering a tiny little protest and they were arrested and physically beaten the way the communists used to beat their presiding. if i may want to show our audience what
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that looks like. so this is from vacuum api. he's post this on twitter. i'm going to play it and then just let me just look in the background. you can see see the big thing happening in the background. look at that. that neighborhood is one of the most active, vibrant populated areas of the city. this isn't for me just right, but that is what is a whip? what is that? will that co probably they usually have like sometimes they take like a switch from a tree or they take like an electrical switch. i haven't actually seen like a physical with i've seen them shoot into the air. i've seen them find like pebbles and stones to throw at people to the 1st time. so anything that's at their disposal . so we have this situation where journalists just for being journalists of being beaten or being arrested. i just want to bring in the voice of the deputy director of south asia of i miss the international who is joining the dots between
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random beatings and what that means. for reporting in afghanistan, he, she is the type of man when we 1st came to cobbler to ask and he's done on the 15th of august, made a lot of process that they would respect international. and dr. law that they would project generally and the freedom of expression. but in the weeks that followed, annexed into national that so many other human rights organizations have documented the title bond had been violating the rights of germany and cracking down on the freedom of expression. we have documented in the last 5 be the way in which journalists have been arrested, beaten, prevented from doing that job. this is a clear indication that the taliban is not tolerated. that there's a ton of bodies preventing demons from coming to work from new cation and it's preventing, generally from reporting on the, on the execution that are taking place in africa. just a pick up from that thought. well, this is all true. i mean,
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we have been documented this is documenting this as well. and i think what's important to note here is that this is happening in the context of great instability in the country. a lack of clarity, a lack of. 5 understanding really what are the intentions of the taliban? because they say one thing as was just pointed out and are doing something entirely different. i mean, i'd like to highlight the, the case of the conflict of her martez, of somebody who was detained by the taliban since september 7th. and there are now rumors and i should very be very specific about the there are rumors circulating that he may be executed, but the taliban has issued a statement denying that this is the case. now this is, this is highly problematic because essentially in addition to these kinds of situations, you have the tal upon going from house to house. we have received direct reports
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from journalists, letting us know that the taliban has come to their home, their sister pretending to be an employee of the household, and denied that the person was there or was coming back, et cetera, as a way to avoid being targeted directly people have gone into hiding. people have had to change houses in order to avoid being caught in a situation where they can not escape the taliban. i think it's also important to note the issue of women journalists being pushed off the being denied entry to their workplace. and this happened with the national african broadcaster, this is mark, it goes well beyond the self censorship and the denial of the right to work and participate in public life. but it really is an attempt to erase the,
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the public presence of women. it is an attempt to raise their voice, to erase the ability of to reflect women's reality as part of the public debate. and this is a very, very serious matter that will have long standing consequences for the women of the sun. they are, we're talking about john is being harassed and attacked and it is not a se reticle situation for you. i am going to show a headline from al serra dot com. have a look, cale my, on my laptop. it's never good news. when journalists become the news attack on afghan reported test taliban media, freedom pledge, see what happened to you. 25, a good day and, and i'm out from my all faith and cobbler was seated on talk to the shari. now, the new city of chicago,
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i arrived your to, dane, 20 or 1030 in this time i was reporting about the labors people, the local workers and your is a place that they board. the people are coming every day to morning and some of the people's, or need to workers need labor words. they're baking them in their bang them. and after they are going with them for this that i come the what's the situation and this days? what's the situation and when gordon, amend change the political situation. change, how is the word, how was yours live? and when i arrived here, when i into you last the labors 1st and after this why come remain is taking
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the end. i'm taking the off the slip or by my phone and this time in one armor. ringback we call lane cause a rico it's come where me is in the hollow bonds are out from the entire rick the they attack me. they my immobile, they so called for the camera from my camera main. and when we show the id cards, the weird to native, oh you were to navy your genetics after. they also beach me and the guy points me and they took everything off or media equipment and they go to the recall and they go very quickly from the area and
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i off we lost him. oh, but up to up to now i will receive my phone up. now i didn't receive a camera. camera issues was also discussed by the fall of on religious person on me. and let me just ask if i make, if i've got lots of questions for you and i want to get to those questions, a very quick question for you. are you a journalist right now in afghanistan to can you still be a journalist? but i'm sorry, i'm not to be a journalist because i left my job was so many create your was so many problem and for this i'll leave my job. so they be a journalist, i'm out of you. all right. we have so many something you have. so many questions here added, can you make it quick because i want you to talk to our audience and they really want to talk to you. make sure this is my point. listen to his story. he was
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interviewing day laborers. i live in that neighborhood where he's talking about it's one of the most heavily traffic, one of the most busy central areas of the city. he was just out in the middle, a 10 am interviewing day laborers and he was beat for that. the, it's a lot the rules guys were reporting on a small protest, maybe 20 women, maybe 50 women. these are the most basic points of journalism. nobody was doing anything remotely controversial and they were beaten for simply doing their job. and it makes people want to not do their jobs anymore. alley, and they all say to do this very quickly for me, an art for as many questions and thoughts inquiries on youtube as you can ali starting with you watch off. thank you. what can be done to the taliban respect? press freedom in afghanistan, alley instant. there needs to be pressure and also outside journalists need to stop
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giving in to their demand and cooperating with them. and working in ways that sort of what's the word like make it ok. the sort of provisions are putting on the outside journalist by that you mean international journalists? yeah. the ones who come in to fly and sell a dora quick response from you please gypsy. everything the taliban says is always always qualified with as long as it aligns with an interpretation of each lab. so why does anyone believe that they be different than in the past? well, i mean, i'm not sure that people really want to believe that they will be different. we certainly have no reason to believe at this point that they will be different. all of the actions that we're seeing is point to something entirely different, right? that they are in fact going to remain the same and take on these draconian measures
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. and basically i'm still fear terror and censorship. however, what we do think is different is the ability of the international community to exert pressure. as ali mentioned, that there is, it's, and it's extremely important. i mean, you know, every government, everyone who comes to power needs the economy to function. and that is one of the ways in which the international community will continue to engage with the son, because otherwise the people will face and even greater humanitarian crises. so the u. s. will remain present and upcoming. a lot of you and agencies are still there. we, it is our hope and our ask that journalists who remain in the country be supported to be able to do their work so that the country doesn't fall into a black hole of information. an information i live out. ok, and continue. i'm going to go to youtube and fit in one more voice. he's on the video. they severus on youtube,
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says afghans should leave afghanistan if they want to do whatever they want. and then i'm going to go to a journalist who was in afghanistan, who didn't feel that he could practice his craft and i've got it done. so now he is in paris. that is a tab nori. have a listen. look. i see no future for freedom of expression in africa and fee media cannot survive unless they go by the rules and regulations by the talk to them and talk on of already set of rules, restrict freedom of expression and free media and that's going on. but on the other hand, the financial crisis against the media has affected him so badly and we already see over a $150.00 media outlets close since one talk or so clearly talking on are
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again it's freedom of expression and free media will gradually die either bio sticks rules on or by the financial crisis in the market. after shaking ahead of about service, comment about if you, what do you, what you want date and if in afghanistan, that's a privilege that not everybody has right alley. we're going to wrap up with your final folk go ahead, make it brief. yes, it's a privilege and it's also a tragedy. look. rock tape is one of the best journalist, the novel, honest on, and he's currently in france because he feels he can do his job. proper yard is in the same situation. he, you know, put in so much effort. he will, you know, and now he can't do his job. i ali and zia and jesse, this is a story that will go on and on and on. we really appreciate your insights today to help us understand what's happening to journalism in afghanistan. thanks for watching everybody. thank you for your comments. questions next?
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