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continues here out in fi story. as the sun goes down for a very challenging place to work. as a journalist, we are always pushing boundaries, part of the center of mass that was ongoing love. we are the ones traveling the extra mile where the media go. we go there and we give them a chance to tell their story. a war of words hates are between tajikistan and the taliban. campaign. braces anti taliban forces is cobble acute neighbor of meddling. other 2 heading towards conflict. what implications does it have for the world? this is inside story. ah . hello and welcome to the show. i'm sammy's. a than tension is rising between

afghanistan and to g. stan russia is urging the 2 sides to resolve disputes after reports of an increased military build up along the border. last week, the tiny bond warm, the tangent government against meddling in afghanistan's internal affairs. it comes after tagging president marley ramone refused to recognize the new ton of bond government and accused the group of human rights abuses against the tangent minority in the pantry valley. punchier fell for the 1st time to the tiny bon last month after fierce battles. so as a possible war, looming along the afghan tragic border, we'll discuss this in a moment. but 1st this report from hash matlab barbara in cobble. they all started in august with the taliban word, fencing towards the capital campbell and taken over cities in the north of that particular moment. top military commanders, politicians,

leaders from the former government, u. s. trained pilots crossed the border into tajikistan, seeking refuge and then tension started to build up. now, for tajikistan taliban is a threat to regional security and this explains why it nobody ram on the president of tajikistan has been very critical. of the taliban accusing the taliban of human rights violations in the pensive valley in the north of august. and that's where you have a predominantly target community based there, those accusations were dismissed by the taliban. and the taliban of the, on the other hand, have been saying that as it is 10 is interfering into the affairs of afghanistan. this has created some tension on the border with a military build up from both sides. although the taliban have been recently saying that the deployment of taliban fighters into the border with desecai san is just

for the sake of implementing security across the country and securing the border. and that this has something that has absolutely nothing to do with attention with tajikistan, but they're charging on chassis, on the other hand, are concerned. they believe that the taliban are providing safe havens weapons for the outlawed group of or jim jim at unsubtle law which is outlawed integer his that and helping them to cross into tajikistan subject, which has also been dismissed by the a taliban. we have to wait and see what happens in the next future. hashem abala else's era. for insight story. well, let's take a closer look at the regions geography. then tajikistan shares more than 1400 kilometers of border with afghanistan on the south. on the west, it borders as pakistan and the north kingston. while china sits to the east,

tajikistan has emerged as a hub for anti taliban forces after the fall of cobble. it's given protection to some of its leaders, including umbrella, saw that a former afghan vice president who joined med miss road and other taliban opponents to form the national resistance front. i'm at my so it himself is the leader of the national resistance front. he's the son of acme, char masoud, who fought against the soviets in the 19 eighties and against the taliban in the late 19 nineties. and those at the latino had rom, the leader of the national congress party was ghana. stan, also based into gee, could stand right now. awe let's bring in our guest now we have joining us from carbone fire alan, professor of political science at cobble university in paris. part of is more a john av tajikistan, political analyst, and in moscow,

vladimir suddenly cove international affairs specialist at the russian academy of sciences. a warm welcome to all if i could start with fire in cobble, then what do you think? do you think tensions between the taliban and to g? stan are going to spill over into conflict. oh, thanks for having me here. no, i think good. there is a history or for the conflict between taliban anthology is done in 90 ninety's also . when taliban defeated the northern alliance, the northern alliance got the salem in tajikistan. and once the sir years and vision started in 2001 a northern alliance, the come back from calabria to your 4 digit cust on in may. and we did do the taliban. a strong holes in the north of august on her decked her blunter history, nor for opposition. and then recently went to sir taliban defeated. the opposition, specifically the northern alliance. dear resistance in upon shared the flaw,

no man got an asylum in tajikistan and openly started at a distance within the tragic is done. now now to conceal doors, sir, are very air. my interference is insight in afghanistan, fraud mer, tajikistan tajikistan started a blame game. no my by bringing good the news with this and sour mcgahey dean, and also my insecurity on the border with a gun has done there, but more moderately. so i think the conflict will not spill or what it should be there. so all of them coming beers within the diplomatic or no good, charleston, linguistically right? now, this question is that we may be really didn't pose this question to part of it in paris. what is this strategic goal for de shambly? why is tajikistan hosting these anti taliban forces and elements? is it simply about bolstering the power the rights of ethnic haddocks in

afghanistan? or is it something wider than that? the issue at least a quarter for a contingent o by public opinion in general about the capital for the government of the guy that is not certain problem. because assuming the politics this is not treated and we should have been in that a reason for such a leash, steady pollution now for continuous power is the security concern because i think he's found doesn't believe the government that i think is that like a spanish government doesn't believe that because about government has changed. and so we also know the information about what is going on with that company. we know the position of from several of them is all good. now, on closing factors from one of the biggest mentioned,

many of them just recently came from a senior in oregon. so far problems of all kinds of international based in may in for an open standard. you know, how they seemed respected in the network call. what would be there? and this fact all promise is sort of $521.00. i with her position for a heck of a car. let me jump here and ask her, have we actually seen afghanistan attacks being launched from taliban controlled afghanistan into tajikistan or not? i don't believe it would have been but so we can look for a completely sub position, but then it backs up with me for interrupting in the why is to g stand. so wired,

if we haven't seen that sort of security threat emerging to tajikistan borders from afghanistan. now, because a transmission from the, from the ground. this group started going to wonder. so we can look to refuse to civility and dependent on government, good smoker trust because a promises, you know, that promised the americans. roberson, during the negotiation process, they promised to smoke over to the areas abandoned by americans. forces the violin that prompted to organize and include

government violent this promise. they promise not to avoid it. right? so for women and human rights, they violate that promise not to squeeze her there. i thought i might well, at least the right of the promises not to organize them, not to come back to be forced to go longer. second of people with a let's see if we can bring in vladimir then from an international perspective. what is the consensus of our foreign pow starting to see that afghanistan is becoming a center for our groups to launch attacks against neighboring countries or others beyond the region? boy, actually a test of all, all. thank you very much for having me on this program. then good evening,

i would look to say, well i, i don't want, i don't want to say that i'm going to say that there will be no conflict actually because ok, i agree with my son, jacob calling from paris that the government is a very tough for government and regime of thought about this while waiting all its promises. but actually i think that the bomb regime doesn't want to have to rush angry. and because a star is a member of the c t o, they call it the security teacher is ation and a sort of aggression on the to do it out of just on a consultant and the collectors on site. although i think that russia won't be interfering until the conflict then of course there will be no a wait for bringing up to a russian troops from tutorial for the country. good stuff. i got the international

. so i think clearly there isn't a consensus, at least in moscow that right now it's kind of stand represents a security threat to russia or to any of the members of the collective security organization. right. this is a really security threat. yeah, yeah, i agree. this is a really security route because you actually are willingly only a possibility for fight this or from i see some doctors group so to no go in go. so what? so what, so for russian bought us and bought us off the shy as counters like the biggest on . so this is really security threat and brush actually agree with that, but i abandoned things and i thing, at the same time, my sister hasn't been conflict between the 2. yeah. it's why it's fighting. but there are example sexually that if it's profitable football,

i don't tell you about the actual reach that base of the agreement with. no, i says fight this and another charles group. so probably i agree i do the tale. bodily is not, it was back in mind. you, bob, actually, the crucial nature of volleyball hasn't changed, hasn't changed at all. so really, this is a rapid, internationally speaking. this isn't for local different russia and budget guest on this is the threat for all region. and for. busy eventually fall there now whole, but you said, just to clarify, let me you start off by saying you don't think the rush will be sending troops and you don't think the time on one to engage any member. so how, how sure, i'm sure rush received. is it a big yeah. only in case there will be. first of all, that look does a whole, where should they collect

a decision on the level of minister for foreign ministers and even on the level of head, off state of the c s. u to resolve a scope? and if, if the conflict starts, if the goal that will take place. so another thing that there is also the diplomatic maneuvering on the shuttle diplomacy launched. but russia, in the face of a special represent default for the president of russian federation. mr. could beula, who is longing for flying back to, to, to couple from couple to about back actually to moscow. so i think that eventually this ready just situation will be resolved, diplomatic, but russia that, that will be the last to result are for the countries like russia to bring in drops against any also bo, also both pop up. ok. let's bring in phase again from cobble. when you look at some

of the leaders afghan leaders who are being based right now to g stand and you listen to what some of them say like the national congress party lead on the latino pad from he's talking about what he calls gradually liberating afghanistan from time to bond rule. how realistic is that? how much power do these people really have even in the pan chia valley? oh, i think it's really of much important for us to realize that to a how a leader man or the government of pakistan is governing its population or tajikistan itself in the central asian country. so specifically, neighboring of gun has done one of the what if for a jail estate, it is governed by a dictator for by a stolen most for decades. it is having internal conflict. so politically, economically and socially, it fears that deb my soon the really be people within the advocacy then raising the weiss because there is no national consensus nor democratic or no more position in

the it is nor one allowed in the past 4 decades to raise the airways now to spill over the conflict, the internal conflict with the region, the af, starter to with no opposite or, or, or position with taliban and sheltering or taliban. so position and tunnel leading her. what did the specific girl resistant forces in the leadership can do? i think her no or false if they could do anything, they could resist against taliban them. they would have key a kept j, geographical location and side of gunnison. they would not be defeated. they would not have lift. gonna stand by any means, because 20 years they received a locked or for support from a u. s. net or, or politically. deborah, very much maneuver did, through a democratic or a mobilization of people are having constituencies in north, specifically in target. or they were very much linkedin to the merchant deletion

countries and some other regional powers, but they lost all both supports the last, the constituency, because they were incompetent to keep them. they were, but they couldn't resist because they were not enough for her. did what? not enough mobilized or enough for motivated to resist. it is a stella by an insight specifically and very mountainous darren toad. the region is getting changed that he gin is much more supporting taliban present and him cobbled than anybody else because the region, the fear that he jordan was having from spillover in golf insecurity and not a coach affecting all those things are going to be controlled and somehow managed by taliban who promised the original power specifically moscow, china, india, diplomatic presence and dora for past many years, it is not new for her and the special representatives of moscow in china to communicate with taliban as such her concerns. okay,

so basically it sounds like phase is saying there's not a lot that the anti taliban forces can do. let me take the question then to part of these. does the shambly really believe the anti taliban alliance can defeat the taliban? can even retake the pan cheer valley stronghold that it was kicked out of wyoming. what is the, what is the end game for the shan bay in it's thinking just to have a card to poke the taliban or does it think these people can actually take back the country now, christopher. oh, it's very spanish. in blue, 21. now clearly brought people tried to accused because of the turkish mountains, according to data. this is a different story. what i mean, somebody, i mean kind of on government and the time i send them to members of this government in the un sanctions and to you be,

i want there are both of them belong to happen. the letter, which is accused in organizing a series of teresa faxing a couple, okay. maybe with focus on the question i a by the answering to your question, answering 2 questions. i would say that are we, i'm not talking about. so i personally don't believe that the prints competitive forces with numbers for the border. 7 this is not feasible for us to vote, but also we believe a future actually happening now with a divisions like a lot of people related to canada. to caucasian,

a tourist groups originally from different around the country. so central asia. so they are really to create a strong quote, and we believe that the future they'll be able to this from quote, to make pressure, the resume, and probably in the future there will be some, sometimes a position on central asian countries. said the if i suppose people like i had my so number last saw that there will be able to prevent the sort of scenario talking about is that the thinking well i think that it's o d u b. my purpose is to create a kind of a to make sure the government types of other groups will give me a nice smoke program. we should not for the region. ok,

let me bring in vladimir and, and asked this question. it seems the tactic president has been pushing the russian president vladimir putin to support the anti taliban. the lines you said earlier, you don't think russian troops are going to be going into tajikistan or into any kind of conflict with a ton of on any time soon. how likely is it that russia might give some banking to these anti taliban elements into g? stan, actually thank you very much for the question. this is a very good question. you're asking. i think that the, and again, i'm just the sure that the russia will try to use all diplomatic efforts to convince or did you get a look on this thought about because it has group contact section with both sides only. so the still are silent called like of wants. so there will be a diplomatic for most of the solution to this crisis. but again,

the situation is that this is tom is a member and active member. so you go and say, oh actually, as i said before, should decide collectively whether, whether to react to director with some more st. jude measure. so if there is an aggression against the dentist on all the time that take some of them, and some of those are sending that to, to try to negotiate a settlement off of its crisis. if this crisis who would be actually, but russia, russia actually has a unique role. it seems to me that the, like and the dates are not like child actually not. and of course, not like us or european union actually because they, out of the question for all russia has unique position to know all diplomatic solutions to both sides and to actually to tell

a bomb and to all the central asian country. so this is the right now in unique position, right. all right, let me ask, i think we got time for one more question 5, how united is the front against the thought of on the way reports of friction or reluctance between some people like i had my food and i'm a loss all it's fully true. they are not united, they are already, they were dis united and passed 20 years insert cobble. how can they be united there that some of them stay in the some be somewhere in tuscan, the other sort in istanbul, in ankara and somewhere in delhi and pakistan, or do they were divided 20 years where they were staying in a berlin con, share to part one in missouri sheriff secondly, but they have differences in approaching, communicating with taliban also. v a saw that i know people in the north for

example, a tomahawk new and those them the open, the front and missouri should have to confront talib ans envisioned but then they got the about to my tosh. canadian is smile. hon who live to iran. now the he backed up from my staying in herat, but the, with a late resistance comes from a mud mud masoud, while a umbrella sallie who was never back any taja called pantries. no, he got her, my asylum there. and then he was told that you are not part of right, the real resistance. so he left earlier. clearly anybody a list still divisions between them. all right, we're gonna have to end it then let's thank our guests for their contributions. 5 xannon, part of aisd mana, john of an vladimir softening cough and thank you to for watching, you can see the show again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion head over to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com,

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