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here. cobble one taliban stores confirming to us that 3 ice, okay. fighters had been killed when they detonated suicide vests when they were besieged in a home when we've seen video of certain areas of heavy exchanges of gunfire. now, having said all that to there still hasn't been any official claim of responsibility when it comes to that attack. outside the most, but certainly i think this seems to indicate that the taliban is pretty sure, at least who was behind that explosion. a huge leak of financial documents as exposed the secret dealings of some of the world's richest people, known as the pandora papers. the documents reveal it among other things that king abdul, the 2nd of jordan, has built up a property and by worth more than a $100000000.00 including properties in malibu, washington, dc, london, and ascot. in the u. k. his lawyers say all properties were bought with personal wealth countries. libya's coast guard has intercepted

a boat carrying about $500.00 refugees and migrants to europe and returned them to libyan shores. another vessel rescued, 65 people traveling from libya on a wooden boat on saturday. in recent days, libby and security forces have detained thousands of migrants in raids. the u. n says one person was killed and that these 15 others were injured in the crack down . the thousands were supporters of gina's in president k side have rallied in the capital tunis and across the country demonstrate to say they back sides promises to change the political system. on sunday, police arrested an m p and a t. v presenter who been prominent critics of the president of next south africa's farmers to no lady. pandora discusses the unequal covert 19 vaccine roll out in it took 2 hours here. do stay with us if you can. i'll have warned you after that. ah

lose. he's widely praised voting, her professional life to serve her country, south africa. nobody pam door has held several positions in the government under different presidents and stuff, education, minister science and technology minister, homa says, administer a higher education to and in may 2019 presidents are i'm a pose, a pointed band or minister of international relations at south africa's top diplomat, she faces many challenges from a country playing with some of the consequences of the us china trade war to the diplomatic struggles brought about by the unequal global rollout of cars with 1000

vaccines as well. leaders gathered in new york for the 76 un general assembly. south africa's message was clear. it is hm. embankments on to manatee, but more than 82 percent of the world's vaccine doses have been acquired by worth the country. while less than one percent has gone to low income countries. unless we address this as a matter of urgency, the pandemic will last much longer. a new mutation, so dividers will emerge and spread. and that's where we caught up with south africa's minister of international relations and co operation melody. pandora talks loud, 0 melody, pandora, foreign minister of south africa. thank you for talking to algy 0. let's begin with

the global fight against that pandemic. the figures are staggering. 6000000000 people vaccinated throughout the world. less than 2 percent had been vaccinated in africa. now this is a vaccine disparity that the secretary general has described as obscene. what can be done about it? it certainly is, and it certainly doesn't reflect the promise that global leaders had made at the beginning of the pandemic. that once there's a vaccine, it should be a public good. it's certainly not been treated in that way. it's clear from evidence to day that a number of wealthy countries pre booked doses of the vaccine, and in fact, many have a surplus which they should be providing to the poorest countries in the world to ensure that all of us are vaccinated. at the same time or soon after each other,

because that's the only way, or we're going to begin to have a strong protection against the serpent demick. if we leave her a large number of poor people, unvaccinated, we're just going to develop more variance or we're going to be a threat to each other. because we trade, you know, we are a global community. so i think her world leaders really need to wake up as the most powerful nations that have the surplus and they have to be ready to support the rest of the world to vaccinate. this is the only solution to this problem. i mean, the world leaders set themselves a target of 70 percent vaccinations by next year we're in september and this figures not even 10 percent yet. it's not been reached at all. there are countries on the continent that have hardly begun their vaccination programs or sub africa is

a little way ahead are cuz we had prepared early on. but we've also shared what we have with the continent, but we're not a wealthy country. of course, in comparison to parts of the conference continent, we're better off, but we're not wealthy by any means. are countries that are talking of a booster shot are the ones that should be hanging their heads in shame. because they really should be ensuring that at least the majority of the african population have one dose provided. i mean this other forms of apparent inequality. for example, the u. k. has still got south africa on it's read the list, despite the fact that south africans doing a lot better than a number of countries that had been removed from that red list. what have you come for this kind of despair is it's an absolute puzzle to me. and i've been speaking to colleagues from the u. k. we've approached the high commission in pretoria and

we know really getting clear answers or one of the insights i got this week or was when one of the officials at the embassy indicated that they've been getting information from some scientists in south africa, not from the ministerial advisory committee, which has the top south african scientists, but some scientists who disagree or with data that our government or has been publishing. i found this absolutely astounding. the u. k is a very good friend and partner to south africa. but i am really shocked at this read lester read listing of south africa. i'm also horrified to learn that travel agents have been told that even sub africans who are vaccinated as long as south africa's on the red list, they were and be regarded as having an authentic vaccine. this is a either it's madness actually and doesn't go well with who we know. busy the u. k

. to be it also has dire economic consequences for both countries and we have of great interest in tourism, in the u. k. from mass of africans. we also have for a lot of c, a u. k taurus to come to our country or both countries, leisure industry has been it. ringback very on, by the pandemic can, you would think both of us would do all that we can to revive the sector because it is such a lucrative generator of jobs and public revenue. so i've been really astounded, and i find thee a position adopted by the government of the united kingdom, inexplicable, to be quite honest in his sir speech, to be un general assembly president rum, a poser identified 3 countries of concern. he made the plea for western sahara for people to have the right of self determination for the

palestinians to get their own state and full the embargo against cuba to be dropped at. would it be correct to say that these are the countries and international priorities in terms of its international diplomacy? while they certainly are concerned for south africa in terms of access to human rights and self determination, which as you know, was a long struggle for south africans and the people of sahara. we were a good friend to us in the course of struggle. the people of palestine as similarly, and of course cubans even sacrificed their lives on our soil in southern africa. so we are concerned and the denial of opportunity, or for those 3 countries. you mentioned there that these countries supported south africa in its struggle to obtain human rights. we have that

being solidified in the durban declaration, 20th anniversary of the durban declaration. and yet you still have a number of countries, including the u. s, including israel boycotting at this conference as this would appear to. kat against that promise to abolish racism would have not what is really, really disappointing factor. several countries decided to boycott our round table and did not participate in discussions on the resolution that was unanimously adopted. i've been looking at to the list of countries that over time have boycotted, various events associated with the struggle against racism. and the number has grown from a bar to think her name countries to 21. now says clear that there's some one doing work, mobilizing against the durbin declaration, and it's positive intentions,

which are action by the world to combat racism and all forms of intolerance. so i cannot understand why such an objective would be regarded as antithetical or 2, or rather more developed countries, several of which were the cause of the very racism. we're all trying to come back today. we're looking at a double standard. so we not, i think so, i think lack of world lack of courage, we've seen with black lives matter and the lack of responsiveness to addressing a racial inequality in the united states and inadequate response to ensuring that the conduct of the security services is improved vastly with respect for human rights and individuals. so i think what you're seeing and is an inability of some governments to directly confront these difficult questions in

a racism is not uneasy or prejudiced to combat. but it's something that democratic government should never rest at addressing. i mean, what many observe is find a standing is that recent events in the united states, for example, you mentioned that black lives matters movement. it's rise. the nationwide protests at one saw because of a police violence against african americans. and yet the u. s. still boycotts an anti racism conference. it they appears to be no rational in a way. maybe it's an intention to say we don't think we have a problem. i mean we can all. busy see it, but perhaps if you ignore it or you pretend that it goes away, but it reads, it said and will continue to do so. we're trying in south africa. mean we're, we're not innocent by any means. and have our own problems of a racism and all forms of discrimination, including

a violence against fellow africans. but these are matters that we are confronting directly and talking to our population about, you know, this inculcating in them a sense of social cohesion and an understanding of the responsibility we have as a constitutional state with the bill of rights to protect others. and not to regard those who come from another country as being different from south africans. so you either have a government that is bold and that will confront these issues as present from a poor said as all you have for governments that shy away. maybe because the problem is too awful for them to believe they can grapple with it. you mentioned that south africa's dealing with its own issues as well. we saw the fault lines expressed following the rest of former president. zoom her where you had his supporters clashing with others. in july,

you had general unrest through many parts of of the country. how is it possible to eradicate these fault lines? it still appeared to remain between people. i'm mom, i'm not surprised that south africa would have such problems. it only has 25 years of, of democratic practice. so it's very new to democracy. and that which we're trying to build is something that not everybody's familiar with or would support. president roemer poyser has been, i think, very courageous in confronting or corruption in south africa up to clearly in the public sphere and inert, putting in place structures that would assist in and in revealing the extent of corruption and the abuse of public institutions. you don't set about that or with people just happily saying ok, go on. and i think there's

a lot of opposition to what he's trying to do. and or my view is that those who are encouraging this insurrection attempt at that we saw in july, a people who are actually against as fighting corruption and indignant in south africa. are you seeing some kind of deep state movement that's in place? i think there are people, there's evidence or that there was a lot of use of social media or that are very poor. people were encouraged to go on to the streets and to lose businesses or businesses were spoken of as racial or institutions. you know, white monopoly capital is the phrase they use. um and you know, the sense of you are wrong by these businesses. go out and destroy them, and you will be rich and, and have a job. and of course, over 50000 people lost their jobs as a result of this looting and, and,

and rioting. so clearly are people who are lied to, and i think as they reflect on what happened in july and what they did, they realized that some one has actually tricked them out to what extent as well. and this is a delicate question, giving south africa's past in terms of ethnic rivalries. is that what we appear to see in july as well was almost re run of the m, as in lou nationalism that preceded the 94 elections. it is, is this an ongoing issue or is, is it a coincidence? i think that term, you know, there's a fragility around ethnic city, given our history and the ethan, a city and ethnic identity, we're abused. and there's been in the past 10 years, some marshalling of ethnic nationalism. or, you know, you had t shirts, i'm a 100 percent zulu and stuff like that, which we, you know,

had to discourage. so there is that, but i don't think it's a phenomenon of the entire sub africa. i mean, it's important to recollect that this looting we saw was in 2 provinces out of 9. so it wasn't the whole of south africa in flames. and you know, thank god for that. and what was really a great to see was the sub african ordinary public standing up and seeing that in our name. you mentioned there about the fight against corruption and it was one not present remo poses campaign promises to eradicate corruption, yet he has his critics who still say that he's not doing enough. how do you come to that type of criticism? world investigations are and away people are being arrested. they're being tried by our courts. i said, judicial function and the commission or of for those under commissioners. it's

called on state capture. it's work is underway and i'm sure we'll have a report by the beginning of next year and more prosecutions will follow. so it's through serious attention to all the wrongs that were done at that you wage at this particular battle. but corrupt people don't reveal themselves. you name the daylight as a look at me, i'm corrupt. so you also have to ensure that you build appropriate or capacity in your crime, intelligence and your intelligence and security services. so that you have the ability to catch these people out. we also would be helped, of course, by the international community, as you know, and with some of the corruption that we had a number of multinational corporations that are, you know, or have headquarters in the north. we're party to,

to some of these corrupt practices. and we find this not just in south africa, but in other parts of the world. so i think her, we have to begin to hold up aspects of the private sector to account as well. i think that's a very important issue. the investigations that we've heard with regard to former president zoom, for example, do indicate that an involvement. yeah. off these multinational corporations in terms of inflicting at form of corruption within a society. yeah. well, being party to it, encouraging it payment of bribes or for significant contracts, or getting very large contracts and then executing a very poor job. ah, there's money that we're now getting back through the courts for poor services are provided a to a very estate owned companies, or we're beginning to claw back and we're determined that we will do you think it's

possible to rebuild the trust of the public that was so shattered during the years of prison sooner. well, i think if you're transparent, if you're accountable and you take action, you will rebuild trust. but i do get a sense that the public is fed up. so it's going to be in a long, harder job to persuade people. but i, i believe through practical example, they will come to realize that government is serious and intent on repairing this. you mentioned as well the problems that south africa still faces 25 years into democracy, massive unemployment. and all of these issues still trying to get health to all the population. it seems that they remain a myriad of issues despite more a quarter century of democracy. while we're talking racism in the united states of

america after over 200 years and south africa is just $25.00. and you had the worst form of racial social engineering at that you seen in any part of the world are part 8, was mastery of social engineering, of the worst kind. and so it will take time and we won political freedom. we didn't when they can amik freedom, we don't have control of the a, you know, large leaves of the economy. we have to grow the economy. and i believe we've got to invest much more in sectors that will make a friends to g d. p growth in south africa just on the broader kind of diplomatic friend we've seen recently, the formation of alliances, which of em pushed away. others, it would be argued such as the u. k. u. s. australia deal at the expense of france . south africa is a part of brick, her massive alliance, very important. but all these different alliances does do they create

a problem on the global stage in terms of creating a unilateral rather than multi lateral basis. as the u. s. has been accused in recent weeks. i think her, if they work to order a development agenda, been they exist for the good. but if they work in a manner that seeks to compete with each other and destroy one economy and have another being, you know, the largest in the world and everybody else, you know, should disappear, then you have problems. are the biggest task i think the global community has before it is to encourage china in the united states of america, find each other because if they don't to fab a trade war, it affects all of us. so it is, i think a very, very important that those leaders sit down around the table, work out what the issues of concern are and what the likely remedies might be.

because them sorting out their problems is absolutely imperative to us. he cannot make success. so that level of conflict worries us at that point because it impacts on everybody. i don't think the associations are a difficulty. it depends on, on what they do. i certainly, if i had a contract with you and you went and contracted with someone else without even telling me, you're not happy with my, i wouldn't regard you as a good friend, or you'd have to really explain to me why you did that. so i think that was most unfortunate, i don't think it was well handled and, and the u. k. u, a say in australia have to look at how they repair relations with europe. because i think europe, apart from france was quite offended. and it was really the manner of doing rather

than the actual action itself. so i do think her for me. yes, there are all these associations, but there are points at which we do come together. you have g 20, where we have a very strong development focus. and then this g 7 we're, we're a guest. and there may be a more limited a set of issues that we look at, primarily finance and economy. but g, 20 this far broader gender. then you have a bricks, we're again, we're looking at within the 5 nations how we work together to advance our development priorities. and even the building of the new development bank of bricks has been a very positive step. because in the midst of the pandemic, we were able to secure some loans from the bricks bank that assisted us in managing some of the fall act that occurred as a consequence of the hard shut down. we had to implement the acknowledging that we,

on the fringes of the un general assembly, an issue that south africa has been pushing for years. united nations reform. you have a scenario, for example, where the security council has a 5 permanent members giving then a greater power than other members of the united nations. is this a problem and is it's a soluble, is definitely a problem. i mean, how do you have a membership organization of over a 100 members and have her huge veto and immense power. and it's a clear invitation to transformation and democratization. and i think this should be addressed. this is what south africa and the african continent has been arguing for, for some years. we're not saying we have the solution, but we are saying the current format is undemocratic, yet that the solution to,

to the cern. lack of balance within the united nations, once again would appear to lie with those we're profiting most from it. it's very difficult for other countries like south africa to be able to introduce the type of reform that would transform the united nations into a more democratic body. than it is at present. well, one of the lessons i learned from the struggle are in south africa was that those who believe their lease powerful can in fact be very powerful. if their numbers come together with a clear go. so i think the a broader membership of united nation needs to embrace the notion that we need to transform and democratize should they do. so as a membership, i don't think her in a few countries can stand a gate against them, no matter how powerful they are. but the has to be a popular voice that clearly articulates the need for change and

consistently works at ensuring concretely, there is negotiation that spells out the character of the change. but if a few of us i just calling from the sidelines will all is be this way. south african foreign minister melody pender. thank you. we're talking talk with ah, along with the white 2 boat representation participation. democracy means that people have the

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