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caski from kenya, let the women home in 2 hours, 17 minutes, 43 seconds of the rest of those running on sunday. many couldn't manage half a marathon in such astonishing times, but that is far beside the point. the money they raise and the good they do is the life blood of many essential charities, rory talents out a 0 london. ah, they had lines on al jazeera, this, our leech financial records are casting a spotlight on the wells, rich and powerful circle. pandora papers accused jordan's king of former british prime minister and many others of amassing secret wealth and avoiding taxes. in other news, sol says north korea and south korea have restored their stoled communication channel. pyongyang cut the hotline in august in protest against military drills that sol conducted with the united states. the move could be seen as a shift towards reconciliation between the 2 countries. rob mcbride following this
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one from hong kong. these hot lines are very important. they are the lines of communication across the dmc between the north and the south. it prevents any accidental misunderstandings. it's very important that they are kept open, given the fragility of relations and the, the amount of armament along the d, m. z. now they tend to be cotton restored depending on how relations are at any given point in time. and of course, with the dipping relations that we saw in the last year or 2 with the ad, with the ending of negotiations over at north korea's nuclear arsenal. los st, all those talks became stalled, and these 13 people had been killed in an explosion in afghanistan's capital. the bombing target at the entrance of the 2nd largest mosque in cobble, a memorial service, was being held there for the mother of a taliban spokesman zabel at mcgehee. these 32 people were injured and no group is claimed responsibility. tropical storm shaheen. is it the gulf states of
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a man killing 3 people? one of them, a child swept away by the flood waters. thousands of people have been urged to leave coastal areas and had to emergency shelters. this is the 1st cycling in modern history to come close to the north and coast of our mon. clean up operations began along california southern coastline. after a major oil spill nearly 600000 leases of oil of spilled into the waters off orange county and saturday from a broken pipeline which was connected to an offshore oil. rick and the spanish government pledged 239000000 dollars to help the island of la palmer recover from the devastation brought bites, erupting volcano, emergency response teams in the canary islands. say the volcano is becoming much more aggressive. that's my lot for today. thank you for your company, rob matheson with you in half an hour. that's right. after talk to al jazeera teaching, you can watch out to see were english streaming light on light duty channels. plus
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thousands of our programs, award winning documentaries and death news reports. subscribe to you cheese dot com, forward slash al jazeera english. ah . he's widely praised for devoting her professional life to serve in her country south africa. melody pam door has held several positions in the government under different presidents minister education, minister of science and technology minister po, there's administer of higher education to and in may 2019 president soror. i'm a poser appointed pandora minister of international relations. at south africa's top diplomat, she faces many challenges from a country paying was some of the consequences of the us china trade war to the diplomatic struggles brought about by the unequal global rollout of cars with 19
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vaccines as well. leaders gathered in new york for the 76 un general assembly. south africa's message was clear. it is an indictment on humanity that more than 82 percent of the world's vaccine doses have been acquired by wealthy countries. while less than one percent has gone to low income countries. unless we address this as a matter of urgency, the pandemic will last much longer. a new mutation, so dividers will emerge and spread. and that's where we caught up with south africa's minister of international relations and co operation melody. pandora talks to alger 0, the lady pan door, foreign minister of south africa. thank you for talking to al jazeera. let's begin
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with the global fight against that pandemic. the figures are staggering. 6000000000 people vaccinated throughout the world. less than 2 percent had been vaccinated in africa. now this is a vaccine disparity that the secretary general has described as obscene. what can be done about it? it certainly is, and it certainly doesn't reflect the promise that global leaders had made at the beginning of the pandemic. that once there's a vaccine, it should be a public good. it's certainly not been treated in that way. it's clear from evidence to day that a number of wealthy countries pre booked doses of the vaccine, and in fact, many have a surplus which they should be providing to the poorest countries in the world to ensure that all of us are vaccinated. at the same time or soon after each other,
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because that's the only way, or we're going to begin to have a strong protection against the sir pandemic. if we lever a large number of poor people unvaccinated, we're just going to develop more variance. are we going to be a threat to each other? because we trade, you know, we are a global community. so i think her world leaders really need to wake up as the most powerful nations that have the surplus. and they have to be ready to support the rest of the world to vaccinate. this is the only solution to this problem. i mean, the world leaders set themselves a target of 70 percent vaccinations by next year we're in september and this figures not even 10 percent yet. it's not been reached at all. there are countries on the continent that have hardly begun their vaccination programs or sub africa is
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a little way ahead are cuz we had prepared early on. but we've also shared what we have with the continent, but we're not a wealthy country. of course, in comparison to parts of the conference continent with better off, but we're not wealthy by any means. are countries that are talking of a booster shot are the ones that should be hanging their heads in shame. because they really should be ensuring that at least the majority of the african population have one dose provided. i mean this other forms of apparent inequality. for example, the u. k has still got south africa and it's read the list, despite the fact that south africans doing a lot better than a number of countries that had been removed from that red list. what have you cancel this kind of despair is it's an absolute puzzle to me. and i've been speaking to colleagues from the u. k. we've approached the high commission in pretoria. i went, oh,
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really getting clear answers or one of the insights i got this week? or was when one of the officials at the embassy indicated that they've been getting information from some scientists in south africa, not from the ministerial advisory committee, which has the top south african scientists. but some scientists who disagree or with data that our government or has been publishing. i found this absolutely astounding. the u. k is a very good friend and partner to south africa. but i am really shocked at this read lester read listing of south africa. i'm also horrified to learn that travel agents have been told that even sub africans who are vaccinated as long as south africa's on the red list, they were in be regarded as her having an authentic vaccine. this is a either it's madness actually and doesn't go well with who we know. busy the u. k
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to be it also has dire economic consequences for both countries and we have of great interest in tourism, in the u. k. for a mass of africans, we also have for a lot of so a u. k taurus, to come to our country, or both countries, leisure industry has been it very hard by the pandemic can. you would think both of us would do all that we can to revive the sector because it is such a lucrative generator of jobs and public revenue. so i've been really astounded, and i find thee a position adopted by the government of the united kingdom, inexplicable, to be quite honest in his sir speech, to be un general assembly president rum, a poser identified 3 countries of concern. he made the plea for western sahara for people to have the right of self determination for the
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palestinians to get their own state and full the embargo against cuba to be dropped at. would it be correct to say that these are the countries and international priorities in terms of its international diplomacy? while they're certainly a concern for south africa in terms of access to human rights and self determination, which as you know, was a long struggle for south africans. the people of sarai were a good friend to us in the course of struggle. the people of palestine as similarly . busy and of course, cubans even sacrificed their lives on our soil in southern africa. so we are concerned and the denial of opportunity, or for those 3 countries. you mentioned there that these countries supported south africa in it, struggle to obtain human rights. we have that being
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solidified in the durban declaration, 20th anniversary of the durban declaration. and yet you still have a number of countries including the u. s. including israel boycotting this conferences. this would appeared to cut against that promise to abolish racism. would it not? well, it's really, really disappointing that several countries decided to boycott our round table and did not participate in discussions on the a resolution that was unanimously adopted. i've been looking at to the list of countries that over time have boycotted, various events associated with the struggle against racism. as the number has grown from a bar to think. her 9 countries to $21.00 now says clear that there's some one doing work, mobilizing against the durbin declaration, and it's positive intentions,
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which are action by the world to combat racism and all forms of intolerance. so i cannot understand why such an objective would be regarded as antithetical or 2, or rather more developed countries, several of which were the cause of the very racism. we're all trying to come back today. we're looking at a double standard. so we not, i think so, i think lack of world lack of courage. we've seen with black lives matter and the lack of responsiveness to addressing a racial inequality in the united states and inadequate response to ensuring that the conduct of the security services is improved vastly with respect for human rights and individuals. so i think what you're seeing and is an inability of some governments to directly confront these difficult questions in
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a racism is not an easy or prejudiced to combat, but it's something that democratic government should never rest at addressing. i mean, what many observers find a standing is that recent events in the united states, for example, you mentioned that black lives matters movement. it's rise. the nationwide protest at one saw because of a police violence against african americans. and yet the u. s. still boycotts and anti racism conference. it appears to be no rational and away. maybe it's an intention to say, we don't think we have a problem. i mean, we can all see it. but perhaps if you ignore it or you pretend that it goes away, but it reads, it said and will continue to do so. we're trying in south africa. i mean, we're, we're not innocent by any means and have our own problems of a racism and all forms of discrimination including
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a violence against fellow africans. but these are matters that we are confronting directly and talking to our population about, you know, inculcating in them a sense of social cohesion and an understanding of the responsibility we have as a constitutional state with the bill of rights to protect others. and not to regard those who come from another country as being different from south african. so you either have a government that is bold and that will confront these issues as present from a poor said as all you have for governments that shy away. maybe because the problem is too awful for them to believe they can grapple with it. you mentioned that south africa's dealing with its own issues as well. we saw the fault lines expressed following the rest of former president. zoom her where you had his supporters clashing with others in july, you had, you know,
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and rest through many parts of, of the country. how is it possible to eradicate these fault lines? it still appeared to remain between people. i'm on, i'm not surprised that south africa would have such problems. it only has 25 years of, of democratic practice. so it's very new to democracy. and that which we're trying to build is something that not everybody's familiar with or would support. president roemer poyser has been, i think, very courageous in confronting or corruption or in south africa up to clearly in the public sphere and inert, putting in place structures that would assist in and in revealing the extent of corruption and the abuse of public institutions. you don't set about that or with people just happily saying, okay, go on. and i think there's
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a lot of opposition to what he's trying to do. and or my view is that those who are encouraging this insurrection attempt at that we saw in july, a people who are actually against as fighting corruption and indignant in south africa. are you seeing some kind of deep state movement that's in place? i think there are people, there's evidence, or that there was a lot of use of social media or that are very poor. people were encouraged to go on to the streets and to lose businesses or businesses were spoken of as racial institutions. you know, white monopoly capital is the phrase they use. um and you know, the sense of you are wrong by these businesses. go out and destroy them, and you will be rich and, and have a job. and of course, over 50000 people lost their jobs as a result of this looting and, and,
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and rioting. so keeley are people who are lied to, and i think as they reflect on what happened in july and what they did, they realize that some one has actually tricked them out to what extent as well. and this is a delicate question giving to south africa's past in terms of ethnic rivalries. is that what we appeared to see in july as well? was almost a re run of the or was it new nationalism that preceded the $94.00 elections? it is, is this an ongoing issue or is, is it a coincidence? i think that term, you know, there's a fragility around ethnic city, given our history and the ethan, a city and ethnic identity, we're abused. and there's been in the past 10 years, some marshalling of ethnic nationalism. or, you know, you had t shirts, i'm a 100 percent zulu and stuff like that, which we, you know,
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had to discourage. so there is that, but i don't think it's a phenomenon of the entire sub africa. i mean, it's important to recollect that this looting we saw was in 2 provinces out of 9 or so it wasn't the whole of south africa in flames. and you know, thank god for that. and what was really a great to see was the sub african ordinary public standing up and seeing that in our name. you mentioned there about the fight against corruption and it was one at present. remo poses campaign promises to eradicate corruption, yet he has his critics who still say that he's not doing enough. how do you come to that type of criticism? world investigations or underway? people are being arrested, they're being tried by our courts. i said, judicial function um and the commission or uh for those under commissioners,
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it's called on state capture. it's work is underway and i'm sure we'll have a report by the beginning of next year and more prosecutions will follow. so it's through serious attention to all the wrongs that were done at that you wage at this particular battle. but corrupt people don't reveal themselves. you name the daylight as a look at me, i'm corrupt. ok? so you also have to ensure that you build appropriate or capacity in your crime, intelligence and your intelligence and security services. so that you have the ability to catch these people out. we also would be helped, of course, by the international community, as you know, and with some of the corruption that we had. and number of multinational corporations that are, you know, or have headquarters in the north. we're party to,
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to some of these corrupt practices. and we find this not just in south africa, but in other parts of the world. so i think her, we have to begin to hold up aspects of the private sector to account as well. i think that's a very important issue. the investigations that we've heard with regard to former president zoom, for example, do indicate that an involvement. yeah. off these multinational corporations in terms of inflicting at form of corruption within a society. yeah. well, being party to it, encouraging it payment of bribes or for significant contracts, or getting very large contracts and then executing a very poor job. ah, there's money that we're now getting back through the courts for poor services are provided a to a very estate owned companies are we're beginning to clar back, and we're determined that we will do think it's possible to rebuild the trust of
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the public. that was so shattered during the years of prison sooner. well, i think if you're transparent, if you're accountable and you take action, you will rebuild trust. but i do get a sense that the public is fed up. so it's going to be in a long, harder job to persuade people. but i, i believe through practical example, they will come to realize that government is serious and intent on repairing this. you mentioned as well the problems that south africa still faces 25 years into democracy, massive unemployment. and all of these issues still trying to get health to all the population. it seems that there remain a myriad of issues despite more a quarter century of democracy. wow. or we're talking racism in the united states
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of america after over 200 years. and south africa is just 25. and you had the worst form of racial social engineering at that you've seen in any part of the world are part 8, was mastery of social engineering, of the worst kind. and so it will take time and we won political freedom. we didn't when they can amik freedom, we don't have control of the air, either large levels of the economy. we have to grow the economy. and i believe we've got to invest much more in sectors that will make a friends to g d. p growth in south africa just on the broader kind of diplomatic friend we've seen recently, the formation of alliances, which of em pushed away. others, it would be argued, such as the u. k. u. s. australia deal at the expense of france. south africa is a part of brick, her massive alliance, very important. but all these different alliances does do they create
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a problem on the global stage in terms of creating a unilateral rather than multi lateral basis. as the u. s. has been accused in recent weeks. i think her, if they work to order a development agenda, been they exist for the good. but if they work in a manner that seeks to compete with each other and destroy one economy and have another being, you know, the largest in the world and everybody else, you know, should disappear, then you have problems. are the biggest task i think the global community has before it is to encourage china in the united states of america, find each other because if they don't, if have a trade war, it affects all of us. so it is, i think a very, very important that those leaders sit down around the table, work out what the issues of concern are and what the likely remedies might be.
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because them sorting out their problems is absolutely imperative to us economic success. so that level of conflict worries us at that point because it impacts on everybody. i don't think the associations are a difficulty. it depends on, on what they do. i certainly, if i had a contract with you and you went and contracted with someone else without even telling me, you're not happy with my, i wouldn't regard you as a good friend, or you'd have to really explain to me why you did that. so i think that was most unfortunate, i don't think it was well handled and, and the u. k. usa in australia have to look at how they repair relations with europe. because i think europe, apart from france was quite offended. and it was really the manner of doing or
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rather than the actual action itself. so i do think her for me. yes, there are all these associations, but there are points at which we do come together. you have g 20, where we have a very strong development focus and then there's g 7 where we are a guest. and there may be a more limited a set of issues that we look at, primarily finance and economy. but g 20 this far broader gender. then you have a bricks, we're again, we're looking at within the 5 nations how we work together to advance our development priorities. and even the building of the new development bank of bricks has been a very positive step. because in the midst of the pandemic, we were able to secure some loan from the bricks bank that assisted us in managing some of the fall act that occurred as a consequence of the heart shut down. we had to implement the acknowledging that we,
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on the fringes of the un general assembly and issue that south africa has been pushing for years. united nations reform. you have a scenario, for example, where the security council has a 5 permanent members giving then a greater power than other members of the united nations. is this a problem and is it's a soluble, is definitely a problem. i mean, how do you have a membership organization of over a 100 members and have her huge veto and immense power. and it's a clear invitation to transformation and democratization. and i think this should be addressed. this is what south africa and the african continent have been arguing for, for some years. we're not saying we have the solution, but we are saying the current format is undemocratic, yet that the solution to,
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to the cern. lack of balance within united nations, once again would appear to lie with those were profiting most from it. it's very difficult for other countries like south africa to be able to introduce the type of reform that would transform the united nations into a more democratic body than it is at present. well, one of the lessons i learned from the struggle in south africa was that those who believe their lease powerful can in fact be very powerful if their numbers come together with a clear go. so i think the a broader membership of united nation needs to embrace the notion that we need to transform and democratize should they do. so as a membership, i don't think her in a few countries can stand a gate against them, no matter how powerful they are. but there has to be a popular voice that clearly articulates the need for change and
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