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did no to have even a single case of elephants come into the fields. but however, if you kilometers away from this place where there was, there was no repellent where the number of electrons that were invading the fields to an extent that some of the elephants were shut down to try integers, the number of elephants coming to the fields. the repellant is hung up in villages and fields to water of animals looking for food and water as demand for space and farm man grows. areas where wild animals live are getting smaller. leading to a conflict between humans and wildlife, that can only wilson and easter lasting solution is found harder, motus algebra, one gay, zimbabwe. ah, the headlines this hour on al jazeera of oceans begun in iraq to elect a new parliament. in a poll brought forward in response to mass protests from a semester while must fall,
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kirby was among the 1st to cast ballots in an attempt to encourage turn out his mo, from made up the law had reporting in baghdad. high at security measures have been put in place to secure this electoral law process, but he had the turnout is it still at low? and that could be also explained because of the, some kind of disillusionment among people, especially young people who are this who are disappointed. in fact, at the political parties, you know that these are the boy cutters. most of them are at the young people who rose up against corruption and get his mismanagement in 2090 in what is known as the that the sri revolution. the other headlines and tulsa between us and taliban officials of entered a 2nd day here in doha. at the 1st in person meeting since the group seized power, security aid evacuation flights the rights of women, they were all discussed on day one. the taliban also ruled out,
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cooperating with the united states in the fight against iso in afghanistan, towns presidents. i ng when says her government will not bow to pressure from bay ging. she was speaking during national day celebrations. in the past week though, nearly a 150 chinese fighter jets have approached ty, one's air defense zone. the ongoing german chancellor, anglo merkel is meeting these ready prime minister enough tele bennet's in west jerusalem pair, expected to discuss regional threats and challenges. in particular, iran's nuclear program and the austrian chancellor, sebastian kurtz, a step down in the wake of corruption allegations. the public prosecutor's office is investigating kurtz for using public funds to gain favorable press coverage. he denies those charges. once again, you're up to date with the headlines on al jazeera, talked to al jazeera is coming up next. ah, how many nukes is too many new to america has in many ways driven the arms race for
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parties are much more like the british parties down to the there are fewer regulations to own a tiger and there are its own a dog. how can this be happening? your we take on us politics and society and that's the bottom line. with the charlie bans takeover of afghanistan in august, sense shock weighs around the world. the speed of the afghan national army is collapse and the disintegration of president a shuffle and his government took even the u. s. by surprise. now the international community is trying to figure out how to deal with the new realities on the ground. the taliban is now empower, determined to implement it's vision for afghan and cement ties with the rest of the world. i am hash him, i had
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a bottle in cowboy. and this week i will be talking to the spokesman of the taliban minister of foreign affairs about the group spectacular rise to power and his plans for her which will reach out to women, minorities and its opponents. is the taliban open till the fall? and with the duke abandoned it. strict interpretation of his logic law with put that to uh, the baja bell. he as the spokesman of the taliban minister of foreign affairs jewels to al jazeera beside the co harder. okay, thank you very much. indeed for talking to and to 0. you've recently accused the united states of america flying drones over afghanistan airspace. and your voice does consequences. how would you describe talley bands, relationship with the us? ah miss miller, her man at a him or oh, a relationship with the united states her currently as
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her as her, we're trying to see was seeking positive relations with the united states at the sir moment in time. there violation of our territorial integrity of afghanistan. it is a blatant and a clear violation, or it is against the commitments that the united states of america made dirt in the doha agreement. the doha agreement clearly stipulates that to the united states and or other countries as well. its allies will not interfere and an internal affairs offer other than this time. they are not only violating their own commitments, but they are also violating international law by flying drones and aircrafts are in our airspace her. yet we still seek
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dialogue. we still seek engagement or, and that has been our policy from the very beginning to hold her each other accountable for our actions and her let this relation develop her, let this relation develop and any problems and any issues that we might have with one another. it should be solved or resolved rather, or through dialogue and not through provocative actions or, or that could lead to even creating even further problems. for, for avalon, a stand for the people out of line of sun and, and for the security of the, of the world. is there any direct channel of communication between you and the americans, or is it through a 3rd party? no, we have her not only with the united states, we are engaging,
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we are interacting her with everyone, with the, with the wider or international community or with the you, with the united states, with our neighboring countries. or we have a direct contacts with them and are we are, are advocating dialogue and engagement. you spent quite some time with the americans to work out the details of the doha agreement. so you should be knowing each other. and the general feeling was basically that after as after the doha agreement, the us and the taliban would be able to turn the chapter of decades of mistrust, mutual mistrust. i don't see that happening anytime now that has the actually very unfortunate or as you alluded, we held very long in negotiations and dialogue with the united states. and both parties are made commitments or after very,
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very detailed discussions. it was not tentative agreement or was a very detailed and very, or a very close to very close interaction we arrived at to, at that agreement. but her, again, it's unfortunate. are there to when the administration's changed, the new administration decided not to stick her to the timeline of the agreement or the contents of the agreement and veered off in another direction. or we will also hopeful that her we would enter a new chapter following the agreement. a chapter that brings peace, prosperity, stability to of lancaster. and it brings us and the world closer together are. but unfortunately again, it is, there. it is. the united states that has sir, taken a stance and a mass times better. that is in opposition to all law or international norms,
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but the u. s. itself, president joe biden said that the u. s. is long way off from recognizing the tolliver. again, the a. we want positive relations. we want positive relations. we want engagement, people to people engagement, diplomatic, economic or to tackle common challenges that her are not only affecting us but her, there it is that they are also affecting the united states and the wider international community that are related to understand. the matter of recognition or a sir, it's the prerogative of the united states of america. but we want and we seek positive relations or with all countries here, but without local how you do understand that there's a huge political diplomatic problem now because when you swept through the country across the country in august, the world was grappling with how to deal with the fast moving events in afghanistan
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and they were hoping that the taliban, when they took over zeal, would be sending some reassuring messages to the world that you are genuine about forming an inclusive government. now when i look at the you, government is predominantly hard line bashed tool leaders who were part of the government in the past. when the taliban was in power in afghanistan in 1996 to 2001, you didn't change. and you are side lining people in afghanistan. ah, the 1st point her that i want to clarify and make known to everyone as her that this new government debt has her taken control in atlanta. it has not through military force or we made an agreement that we will not enter through military force. and i stress again that this was not
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a military takeover, or it was the blunder. oh, and the missteps by, by the previous administration there was present in cobble we gave everyone a chance we signed an agreement we we wanted to hold dialogue precisely because we did not want to see of wanston or in a state where it is left in a vacuum our take over or our coming to power was, was the one of the, the unparalleled in history. it was a phenomenon, a was her and parallel in history. never witness. where we have, we have been fighting for 20 years with the united states and the government they had imposed. we had been fighting them for 20 years. yet when we wanted to hold dialogue and to form an inclusive government with all political parties that were
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present here, or the other side, decided that they did not want to see a peaceful and stable afghanistan. they wanted to live and in stable afghanistan with different power brokers, which when he said the other, so you're talking about african people or the international community that i'm talking about are all sites that that were opposing yet. there's a problem here, miss her belfy. so you met with um de la bella, you met with hamish cause i you met with different members of the former government, her clerics, tribal leaders. and the help was basically that you would form a government that includes all the different voices of the afghan society, even those who are opposed to the taliban, that would have sent a positive signal to the international committee. there is not a single woman in this government, somebody that is not a single member of the opposition. that is not a single member of the former establishment. for many,
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this is an indication that album does not want to do business with the other voices of the honest avalon people. again, i want to emphasize the fault is not with us, but with the parties that did not want to engage. that is the main problem that is the source of the problem. we committed ourselves to dialogue with the people that you mentioned. and we sincerely and genuinely are wanted to start negotiations. and it was part offered the agreement that we signed as well, or that they scuttle the talks and her tried to delay the process. that is the problem we genuinely wanted to sit and talk and we committed ourselves to it in the agreement . and we stuck by it all the way till the end. but the events that unfolded her
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will not driven by us, but it was them. they did not want to engage in dialogue. that was the main problem, mr. bulky. this is to 1021. and you say that you genuinely willing to open after the international community. but when you take decisions like imposing restrictions on girls education, you're sending the wrong message here. her. what we have to understand here is that there is a, a lot of sensitivities, customs, restrictions in our own society. her endor this, her issue of women education. we have committed and we have guaranteed all the rights that have been afforded to women in islam. that is the right to education,
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their right to health care, their right to work. and are they the, the process that the world wants us are the steps they want, want us to take, we are taking them. we have seen progress in them. we have on ours is not happening because girls not girl. our government is whole girls. us are going to schools. we are only work. see making secondary students are yet to go to school. yes, we are working on mechanism. there are 4 or 4 of bringing them opening up all schools, but it is a gradual progress. we are a program process because we've been talking about these issues. you are very young by the way. a mr. bulk of madison today is different than afghanistan of 1996 to 2001. when the taliban 1st came to power, when the taliban leaders meet didn't do the talk about the need to re adjust to the new reality of the need to change the need to implement reforms. do they understand that the young afghan people, boys and girls in missouri said if under har,
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cobbled by dosher and the her are different with different hope, different aspirations and not necessarily some people who are loyal to the taliban? yes sir, it is not her. only us al society that has changed, but the entire world has progressed, has advanced. we understand all the complexities offer off the of the current world. we understand it very well and we are working. but again, i must emphasize that as the saying sit, goes, roam was not built in a day. what we are asking is the for time, even when her countries that have governance models implemented like the united says there was an electoral system. and even then when one administration changes and the other one comes there have at least
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a 10 week window of transition. a we have not even been given a month. and are the demands that are being imposed on us. are things that need time and we that's what we are asking for that the process will happen. but gradual . let let us gradually end the scent but arrive at this day. but the taliban has been ambivalent about many issues, sending very conflicting messages. some of them are very vague and this i would appreciate if you could give me a straightforward answer when it comes to what kind of understand you would like to see. would you, are you committed to building a vibrant democratic afghanistan where freedoms of thought expression will be protected? or where people will be given a chance to say whatever they want to say, even if what they are going to say is totally different to what the taliban embraces. as a ne georgie again this sir, concept has been misunderstood. and this concept of freedom of expression has been
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misunderstood. it is not related to a democratic order. islam itself allows freedom of expression. and are we, i have to clarify one point. after 40 years of conflict, of death of destruction. this country has seen the chaos that was prevalent or the system that of governance that has taken hold. it is the 1st time in nearly 40 years. that all opposition, whether in the government or outside the government, every individual has the right to express his opinion. you sitting here and interview me the media that is present, the vibrant media that you yourself are witnessing that is present in cobble and across of einstein as also a testament of our commitment to freedom of expression to freedom of speech. or this our priority at this moment,
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or is that stabilizing this country. we have been at war and conflict for 40 years . and i have to emphasize this point again and again, 40 years is a very, very, very long time for a country to be mired in constant and constant conflict and war. but i have to say that journalists afghan jurors up, we must concert. they say that you are imposing restrictions on them and that they are telling them we have to follow the agenda of the taliban. you've been very critical of the former government, but at least in the, in the, during the last 20 years there was a constitution which was adopted in 2004. there was a parliament and there were political parties trying to vice for a bigger say, you know, was the biggest concern is that when, if you're one of this i to talk to the europeans, they will tell you we need to see political parties contesting lashes. we would like to see women given biggest, say the government and you're not given the world an indication that you are willing to implement those political reforms. coming to your 1st point about
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restrictions on our local media. that to the fears are irrational. they are unfounded. no one has ordered or instructed any journalist to take a certain stanson to follow certain policy. i'll freedom of expression that they have the freedom offer, expressing their voices that has to be within the bounds of islam. it must not transgress against the honor and dignity of individuals. it must not, it must not violate and rouse emotions, islamic emotions, or religious or emotion sin. it must serve the expressions, the freedom of exhaustion that to have the advantage. it must not across certain bounds. all right? that is the only restrictions when you talk about those boundaries of all the muslim countries. the taliban are internationally known for their stress
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interpretation of islamic laws. where you got countries in the muslim world, they have very relaxed codes. are you still stuck in the mindset of to 1996 to 1001 where you are world view was different than the rest of the world or are you? are we likely to see some changes here? again, i have to say that to each country and each country has its own laws and regulations are for running or the governance structure of running the government are for giving her liberties to the people. we are committed and we guarantee every single right that islam has given to the people of afghanistan. we will give it to them. but we do not want interference in our internal affairs. i see a bite. let's go to retirement just just as we do not interfere and do not demand
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certain things from, from the or from others. we would also like the same. okay, treatment. let's go to regional politics. i would like to start with your neighbor tajikistan president, him or anybody. raman has accused the taliban of human rights abuses in punchier and said there's absolutely no way tajikistan will recognize your government. are you in touch with them? the reports. i have not seen any of the human rights violations because we have sent media to the pantry rally. there have not been any human rights violations committed in pension. we are in talk to her with the, with tajikistan and her again. we want good relations. we want positive relations with, with all our countries that are neighboring countries are regional countries, the international work we want engagement, we one dialogue and that is our policy. and we'll continue to be our policy to,
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to iron out any differences or any obstacles or any concerns they have through dialogue and engagement. do you see iran as a potential ally of, of gunnison? oh, we see all our all neighboring countries. her with tajikistan was focused on iran, pakistan. all these countries are we want good relations with them. we want positive relations. we are neighbors. we have rights on one another, but you know, you're the spokesman or the minister of foreign affairs. you know that the iranians are pretty much concerned about you side lining the she are hustling flemister. you're not giving them a bigger say, no, we have not side lender. she her has our community. her. as you might have also read the reports that there has had been no fighting and the has outage at regions of our plan is done or the hand over off security of governance toward nerd, the islamic emerett, or was through peaceful means through understanding. and oh,
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we have even included a has ada i. she has ada as a minister and in a, in our cabinet. if you feel together recognition from the americans and the europeans. do you think that china and russia could be the potential partners up on the taliban? will be ready to do business with again her and i want to emphasize this point over and over. we seek engagement. we seek engagement with the united states, with the e, you, with russia, with china. we do not want a linus ton to be a play ground off competition. we wanted to be an economic corridor and a space of co operation between all world countries. or we do not want a supposed great game being played out on our poor people and against apple available or so again we,
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we want engagement and positive relations with every single country around the world. one of the sticking points here is, are these like state of hollow sandwiches, an affiliate of our iso, and al qaeda. the americans made it clear, and the europeans, the russians themselves, the chinese. you realize also that they don't want, they don't want to see those girls operating in your country using your country as a platform to launch attacks. i guess the europeans of the americans, are you determined to clump down or i'll hide and ice gay, her eyes this phenomenon. that term took root in atlanta. stan was during the time of the united states of america when it had occupied our land. we have or fought against isis, our people, the people of afghanistan do not accept the ideology, the extremist interpretation of islam, of fer isis,
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or any such groups. and we have made commitments. and we have or approval through our actions, proven through our actions from our inception as the taliban movement to the estimate, emerett or in the ninety's. and through the stage of our, for fighting for our freedom against an occupation that we will not allow any one to threaten the security of any other country you from the soil of afghanistan. we have made that commitment in the doha agreement as well. mister butler, you understand that winning war is one thing. building a country is something else. now, when you look at the future of, of lancaster, what kind of country do you have in mind? like, let's say in 510 years from now. we envision an avalon is done,
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that is or isn't. it is a country that serves as an economic corridor for, for between the east and the west. a space of engagement, a country of prosperity, or a country that is at peace with itself and the world. that is our vision for a for a future apolline, is that where we are an open society, a diverse society will where people have freedom of movement, freedom of expression, and all the other rights that islam has given to every single individual. i've talked to her while he spokesman of the ministry of foreign affairs of apple. that is done. thank you very much for your time. ah.
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