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i ask her if she still has hope or me hope she asks. onqua me more know thing. right now all of us are hopeless. she tells us. bank is lower, but i believe in one thing. it's only a poison. no cruelty is permanent. her dreams and everything she's worked hard for are on hold for now, and possibly over for good stephanie decker, al jazeera cobble. ah, and let's take you through some of the headlines here. now, jesse are now, protest is aligned to shall political groups in lebanon are demanding the removal of the judge leading the probe into the bay route port explosion, which kill $215.00 people. investigation's been stole by political infighting. several times senna holder has more from beirut. she are political group,
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have called on their supporters to take to the streets, to demand the removal of the lead judge investigating last year. they wrote words explosion and i can tell you, there is a show up for young men in the street chatting in support of their leaders chanting against the opposition, champing against the judge. and you can hear gunfire both has below and i'm on the to she are political parties, have arms. and during the past 20 minutes, we have been hearing a lot of gunfire. so a lot of intimidation for members of egypt. security forces are going on trial in rome, accused of the kidnapping and murder of an italian student julio to janie's body was found in a ditch outside cairo in 2016. an autopsy showed it been tortured. a roadside bomb in afghanistan is killed. 2 people and wounded 13 others including women and children. it targeted a taliban vehicle at
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a checkpoint in the eastern province of canard. a group of taliban delegates is visiting turkey. the talks after meeting u. s. and e, you, envoys in cutoff that pushing for recognition and support for the taliban leadership in afghanistan. sons are growing at either humanitarian and economic crisis. 5 people have been killed in a bow and arrow attack in the norwegian town of congo berg. a suspect has been arrested, police are investigating whether it was an act of terrorism. at least 14 people are being killed in a fire in the city. in the south of taiwan. authorities are investigating whether the blaze in a 15 story building in cow shown was started deliberately. tropical storm compressor has left a trail of destruction of the chinese island province of hanan. heavy rains and strong winds brought down trees and power lines throughout southern china, forecasters say con, pursue is weakening as it moves towards viet nam,
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though the headline sits the stream. now stay with us. talk to al jazeera, we can what gives you hope that is going to be peace because the situation on the ground seems to be pointing. otherwise we listen. we were never on whatever road to off migration. we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that on sierra use the high as any okay to day on the stream. what's next for a rock off the recent elections? you may remember that you flood anti government protest led to these elections being caught early, more than 3000 candidates, right? so we have plenty to talk about data, rain, and call when voted. let's see what they had to say just a few hours ago. i voted for a condition political party interaction and 21 by lametre elections because i
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believe the constitutional rights of the condition people interact. i've not yet been realized. the preliminary result of the election show that you can hold an election with a minimum amount of fraud and irregularities, while the focus is understandably on the elections right now, it must be understood that this outcome is expressly linked to the various factors that are destroying a syrians in iraq, including a denial of real security, economic, marginalization and social exclusion. electoral reform is needed to ensure that minority representatives are actually representative of minority populations. i think i know today is to prove the differences, as i said, to give to form a new government, a government about a space in today are, you know, rise other minorities and also provide skill if you stay below to
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the rocky people. so let's meet your paddle in a studio, hello, russia. hello t dash ne and hello lou way get to have you here on the stream. i went to agree an international audience rush. i tell everybody who you are and what you do. i or myself or katie, i am a senior analyst that new lines institute for sergeant policy here in washington dc . welcome to the stream, hello. ashley. introduce yourself to our international audience. my name is destiny morris. i am an artist and activist, and i work on advancing gender equality. good to have a nice stranger to the international stage. you a good to have you, please remind people who you are and what you do. hello, i'm loyal. hope i'm a former energy minister, rocky government, and currency fellow of the column university. let's start with the voting experience. dash 8. you were telling everybody about how exciting it was to get out and vote. how exciting it was it to get out and vote.
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well, i think i'm, if you compare the election with the previous ones, it was no vomit tags, there was no curve. you and it was clear that there was some sense of security and it was very clean. yes to turn out was very low. but at the same time, we have to know that the election was a result of the protest happening and back that in 2019. so pushing for elections on time already is there when for the people and to go out there and to use your right new i can. i think that is very special. yeah. you know, i pick up face of well the, this election came after quite is with to start with the 1st early elections that taking place in new york or post a major protest,
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a protest her that it came very much like as a result of like 1011 years of public resentment calling for reform and a better future for iraq. and it's about time that i liked her to make her a better start. and i'm glad to see that too many of the youth are made it to parliamentary on the basis of the early result service in published. and let's hope for the future holds a better prospect for us. i'm pulling up a tree here from russia rush. i love your honesty until you tell me whether or not at least interesting ancient in iraqi. ah, let me take the liver move over good games. what happened? well, i think 1st of all, for all the, the talk about all the boycott of 41 percent is of course the lowest turn out. but given how much we were hearing about boycott 41 is not so bad. last lecture was 45
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. so it was not as low as anticipated. i was predicting perhaps 35. so 41 was better than what i had anticipated. also the results themselves, some of them were not so the election results, some of them were not too surprising, but others definitely were what was very exciting was as the guests had mentioned previously, the new comers into the parliament, the protesters that because the protest movements itself had been dismissed for a long time by many observers as not having political influence. it actually did. and then where in 2 of the most influential important provinces in iraq, in the just uncover the fact that these independent grassroots movement actually established themselves and achieve the highest floats defying the status quo. and the establishment. that's very, very huge. if you're watching on youtube right now, you can talk to app had all they know a lot about iraq and a lot about these recent elections. the comment section is live right now. jumping
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to the comment section, also questions to be part of today. so let's look at the turnout in comparison to previous elections because people were beginning to read something into the turn out. anyway, let's, let's put up that cut out right now. and then we can look through and just see the difference between 2579 percent. that is enthusiasm. and then 2021. what am i seeing now? the way? well, let's be realistic. democracy is something completely new to iraqis, post at least half a century of military rule and dictatorship. so this kind of like an instrument of kind of like a living let it be like in governance or social stand up and so on. and yet to be kind of like understood and implemented rightly in terms of like you turn out, i don't see any problem with the 41 percent. even if it's or even if it's lower,
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if i would compare it to, to the last election in the u. k that was 37 percent and i'm talking about a mature democracy. so realistically speaking, one need to be a much more realistic, realistic about what's happening in the iraq. we're talking about a political process that's completely new to the other kids and it's only 18 years old. and yet to witness the report as we, as we progress and democracy is not something that you can implement over a few years. certainly it doesn't mature or develop a generation, it needs a good to generation to say the least and a looking into like develop democracies across the world that we're talking about hundreds of years. so we really need to take this into consideration when we think of likely the progress. yes, or lost lots of opportunities when it comes to economically for political reform
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and social reforms, especially during the good days of a high oil prices. it's again, it's a learning curve and the political class are since 2003 until now. and they've never been into the role of government at, i believe all the life as a position. i'm a but i'd say they, they are, they are acting like opposition within governments. yeah. and they're, they're obvious to learn how to learn company. i'm a broker state, actually i, i've been looking at your instagram account and you spent the last few weeks encouraging people. and i'm gonna suggest that the young people to get out and vote you've been very persuasive, very enticing that we give our audience a little sense of how you're saying to your audience, to young people. this is important as take
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a look. i don't think darcy, i have a feeling that the politicians were not campaigning in the same way that you were trying to get people to get around. right. right. i don't think they were during the hence maybe the 41 percent working. yeah. i think, well, i think a lot of people i spoke to and they said that we don't know much about the candidates because all we see is the post the hanging in the street. and i learned a lot from, from the young people and speaking to even the taxi driver. so i was taking that people have lost trust and it's a lack of trust in the system. because of the corruption and the presence of militia. there were so many reasons of low participation and people were just
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you know, be the victim of the conflict after conflict. and i me, came back from then jar and the return need are back to nothing, to ruins. and then you see that people missed so many basic needs like water and electricity. so i stand by the people war by cutting the election. but at the same time, we are giving away our power and i just wanted to make sure that there is hope in it because of the protests that had political aspiration. that is the reflection of the election. and it led to, i think right now with 35 the that has shaped 11 percent of the next parliament. so i think we can have trucked for the future because it's more of
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a cleaner turnout. there was less fraud reported. and i hope that people can use this as the hope because the young people that protested in back that they brought to change a war or the election to be on time. russia, when is and raises in this election. we've got primary results so far. yeah. what can you do, gees? so we do have a decline in the popularity of the armed groups of militias, their political wing, and parliaments. their votes have dropped enormously and there had been signs on the streets that this has been happening for several years. we don't really hear about in, in the median or in the analysis. but it was there that people were fed up with the assassinations with the kid naps with the kidnappings, with extortion that they wanted a sense of peace that yes, isis has gone. and these groups perhaps played a role in defeating isis, even if it was marginal or not. but now they are, they had become the terror and the people were fed up with them. and at the same time, protests did not help or did not solve,
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could not change that system could not even sort of contain their activities. so the only way was to vote what it was to vote against them were not vote for them. that was a massive change and yes, the nuke, the grassroots movement that had that have established themselves now they were not financially supported. this is key. this is very, very important. they were not backed by any of the mainstream or established parties. and many of the mainstream established part is also failed. we see also it a new trend in public been policy in regional politics. so you have, for example, the islamic party of iraq, which represented the sunni of political wings for will for several years, is no longer influential. it's been replaced by 100 that had lucy for international audience. this is a sunny politician that came from, came from and bar from the western promise, and has now expanded his influence. however, he does not play on any sectarian identity. really. the only thing that we should be monitoring and observing well as that we will not probably see immediate change within this lecture. electoral term,
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we might see it within the next 10 to 20 years as more grassroots people and job rash. if you say that to young puzzles in the streets last year, 10 to 20 years, what do you think they're gonna say iraq is our patients. we've been in conflict for 40 years. so saying that in 10 years, yeah, you will see absolutely a change that we will have a more mature democracy is, is something that they would, would be worth investing in and something that they would find very convincing. if i may say something here, family, when i couldn't agree more with russia and actually mentioned in terms of like a positive addition to the new election that's to take place. i think it's 11 percent is significant, significant added value. i was, i said in previous interviews that if this election produces 5 percent, it's great news. so looking into the initial results to produce around 11 percent or more, this is
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a significant in progress. and if we have this case of development continues over the next 2 to 3 terms electoral terms, or we could see a complete or change across b, b, a national scene and act of it as, as i mentioned earlier, democracy it's, it's a journey and it's going to take time and yes and you know, these went through sanctions, all wars and different type of regimes from monarchy to republic to from central isn't to federalism, totalitarian rule and so on. i think a 15 to 20 years it's, it's not much in that timeline. and time matters and i'm quite hopeful that the, the youth will make the change and factor even an individuals that's running
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on a tradition on electro tickets within the traditional parties. this language parties of like as no secretary and parties, they tend to talk her as like a secular and part of like a civil society. so the reform is happening from within let me within the traditional parties or the new parties that been formed as a result of the, of the, of the protests. these protest i'm afraid will continue to over the next few years until demands by the people. i cannot see these protest laws talk any soon. it may vary in terms of like live intensity of them. but until iraq witness a significant change in the landscape and basically put an end to
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corruption, it's going to be quite impossible to try to stop them. let's, let's not, let's not dismiss whole well, can i just, i think that the people really had enough. if you look at the young people, they are so insanely talented and they are so skilled. i mean, i'm not just talking about a criticism region where i come from, i'm talking about people. i met through a project i. i traveled all around iraq from bad that to muscle, to center. i've met with women. i've met with young people and they are so done right now and because they are neglected because they, they are not contributing to the economy of the country. and i think that's one of the reasons they didn't trust the elections because they think it's not for them. i am very hopeful with what the election turned out to be and it also shows to have
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independent candidate is so important. but right now, there is a stronger message for people that buy cars at the election really sends out a strong message of. we can no longer be fooled, we can no longer be deceived. we know what we want, and the people don't care who is out there. they're just tired of a century of conflict after conflicts. they do right now. one basic needs waters, electricity, health care, women's rights is just, it has gone all the way down. and right now we're dealing with a climate crisis and we don't want to be another next charity of the international community to be another charity of the world. the climate crisis has already hit iraq and we need our new government to get their act together. there is hope and this new election has shown significant change and democracy is no indeed. but they
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need to add very quickly so that the international or, or, or regional influence is less. so if i can find that, if i can just comment, this is a we kind of need to slow down because of their, the parliament system in iraq has been over the past the past 15 years, a web of intervene, intertwined interests. and what's the difference in this election, however, is there, there is perhaps for the 1st time and opposition for the past 15 years, it's been basically just distributing the gains among different parties and according to the ministries that they end up ruling who gets white and it doesn't affect it doesn't reflect on the people lives or not approved. everything that ashley had mentioned, none of that has happened. none of that has changed and it could be getting worse. this is the 1st time there's an actual opposition. this was the group of people that protested for to change the system. they are now part of parliament. so it's kind of like a checks and balances. yeah, it'll be amazing when you put it that way. just i just listened to that then, did they protested and they're now part of part of now and yes,
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11 percent. that's that's 11 feet. sorry that's, that's significant. as a low a we're saying. so now they have, they have perhaps enough influence to maybe modify some of the bills, maybe affect some of the changes that actually has been mentioning that has not happened. this is the significant part. however, it's not going to be easy. we're still on. it's still going to be a battle to rush. i want to play to video comments and he, the 1st one is from mass in. he's a research fellow at harvard kennedy school at baghdad, iraq, and i can't decide with these 2 side by side comments, is the glass half full or half empty? and let's start with math. one of the surprisingly positive outcomes of this election as the dispos very low water turned out, we did see that some of the protest paintings that participated in the elections, namely empty dad and independence as well, who had participated in the protest movement and run. and the elections, they achieved a larger number of seats than we had anticipated. and in this way,
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it seems that the protest movement may be able to make gains in the next 4 years. all right, so i see russia, she's not a downgrade to that, but must not a fast let us bring him a heave because he had a completely different take. he, she is there. okay, hello, go system. so fired legitimacy crisis already for the selection. so this election has been a test for the population of trust in the system and they've shown to a great degree that this is lacking. the thunderous made the biggest one and the election and established political party, which is not likely to make any significant changes in the way that governance is conducted. and even though there were some new parties that made in wants to parliament, their influence is likely to be very low. so both of these fabulous women whom i
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both know personally are correct. they're both correct. okay, and i do tend to agree with the heap on the term that it will be definitely slower . i agree with marcia that they can perhaps affect change, but it will be slow. so we're not, we're not talking about mac, the father in his block or even though to feel connery magic is a state of love, look at conceding anything to the new comers in parliament. that's not going to happen. so it's going to be conflict. i think my only worry is that this will perhaps derail the voting process on bills and resolutions that happen in 2011. i believe i can comment on this, even more in that that stop many projects that stop the progress of many things, my worst fear is that happening. but both of them are correct and it could go either way. okay, you a good friend to your friends. all right, i'm going to ask you this very briefly because we're right at the end of the show and i promise i you, chief audience. they can all say taught you new way. we take this very briefly, avi iraqi people satisfied the election was free and fat. your best of your knowledge to like go ahead. well,
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this is the best that the iraqis so can expect at this moment in time. there is no perfect her scenario. ready but i would like to have her build upon a point that bachelor mentioned about to be challenge of the climate change. and also, as i mentioned on, on the, on the economy side, i think the biggest challenge that the iraqis will, will face every year that the economy cree form and the economic reform. i'm afraid it does as not gonna come and pain free. and for this or any government that urge should come in place or must actor as martin fast or to manager people's expectations and to run some sort of like a media campaign to educate the people, to, to, to, to basically air, to bring them from, from the past of like a via alliance and offer on there are interiors and so on k through the
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to see the be here, all energy transition and accepting good market economy. a lot of change need to be are. busy consider, but there is no pain free reform is going to take some time. i would say a minimum of 10 years of a stable governance. 10 years was 0. interference as from the political parties, especially of their economic care agencies and so on, that we are in the final 2 minutes of our discussion. i want to draw your attention to this on my laptop. we asked at the beginning of the shall what is next for iraq? what's next for her lack after 1st election since mass protest in a sentence bash me. what would you say? what would you hope for the issues are still there and the next government that faced a lot of challenges. there is high rate of poverty. there are a lot of school drop out call. good 19 with dealed with very weak because our health structure is very weak. people need tangible change in their lives. and i
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am hopeful because of having 97 female elected. and i hope they'll be the boy, especially a woman. i'm sure that i see that in russia. what is next? iraq in a sentence this, this would rely on the blocks and the alliances that are going to be performed within over the next weeks. that will give us a clear picture on whether the country is going to continue in this sort of political stagnation or whether there will be progress. what i can hope for is that this parliament realizes that change is possible and that protest can bring change . and maybe now that there is an opposition within parliament, they might have to change their act. thank you so much. i really appreciate all of you gas. thank you for watching on youtube and of course on tv as well. have a look here on my laptop. these are 3 get you want to follow. on twitter, we have russia dash me check out or instagram. it's fantastic and new i as well.
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thank you so much, lou, for being part of the show. appreciate all of you. i'll see you next time. thanks for watching everybody take care. ah, ah, we're breaking into regular programming to take you to the lebanese capital bay roo, where we have reports of somebody being killed and gun file. of course, this comes after a day in which crowds have been gathering to protest, asking for the removal of a judge related to that case where they were investigating the bay route port explosions. let's go now. i believe, to zane a whole. there are reports are standing by live for us in the lebanese capital. they know what can you tell us at this point? well, a lot of tension in the streets, just look around the streets are now empty. 2 hours ago when the protest began, the protests that you mentioned which was called for by she our political parties against the lead judge and the investigation into the be reports explosion. we kept
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repeatedly hearing burst of gunfire. a few minutes ago, we heard too loud explosions which were likely are p, jeez. and they were fired in the air. now the area in front of us is a front line, the army and the security forces have to have corded off the area around that unit . now to unit is a neighborhood the in bay route, which was really a front line during the civil war which ended in 1090. and it still remains a front line between 2 opposing political factions. one of them is the, our movement us this one of the she are parties which actually called i. d never knew you can see on the street that me you mention that so one person has been killed and up to 8 people injured. this is what we understand from hospital sources. if you just get out of the way for the car, people are. * afraid they are leaving their work,
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picking up their children from school. there's a lot of panic in the street because this is a country that really has been on the edge of for years. and then the issue or the tensions over the investigation into the bay report. the explosion has that further polarized this society further divided. as you can see here, parents picking up their children from school. people are really afraid. she'll fit that happy shit. the hurts with him. he's saying that there's a lot of gunfire near the school and they were firing our pj's and he's failing. there are a lot of dead and injured again. we cannot confirm this, but what we do know from hospital sources is that one person is bad, and 8 people are injured. the source of the gunfire is not known, but as you can imagine, both sides are now blaming each other for, for starting. does this clash lebanon is a country that has theme conference.

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