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so we're, we've seen in the past, clearly more intense, clearly, much more dangerous escalation with, on the ground there. i mean, are those gunshots close to you? are they in the distance? what are you actually seeing and hearing on the ground up ahead and that round about if you take your left, that is by the line that is a divided, separate to neighborhood majority neighborhood and a majority christian populated neighborhood. one is a stronghold of this year and the parties homeland has the law and the others as a stronghold of the christian lebanese forces parties. so it's just a street, it's just a street that divides these armed men. a lot of them on the high rise buildings,
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a lot of them sniper fire. it's very hard. he didn't, the army cannot venture inside the neighborhood. a lot of people are unable to reach their home. ambulances are parked here, close to the round about waiting to be able to enter. if it's a very dangerous situation, as you know, type of fire, you just don't see where it is coming from. and it's believe that some of those, some of the casualties were killed because, because of sniper sniper fire. so right now what we understand a military source, yes, the military source is saying it's for, for including a woman who died from a bullet wound in her house. so this is a military source thing for, that's a lot of sniper fire. we're just going to move back a bit of a medical sources say the devil could be up to 6. so we're just going to have to wait for, for more con,
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the army is telling us that is not safe here. and we need to move back. ok, so this is was anna make. so you get to say, you don't want you to be on the way you're on say okay, the army, they told us to move back into the blood, things on the floor. civilian civilians usually pay the price of, of these confrontations where politicians really negotiate on the ground by the civilians. i can tell you so many people are afraid. so many people are worried whether or not the situation this time around can be contained. whether the political and for carry intentions, which really have been present for years for decades, can be contained after this, after so much blood after you know, so, so much gun fights and across a decades old dividing,
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dividing line, so for kill military source telling us it's still not clear whether or not the oh that's the ambulance the day now we're going to let you go, we're going to let you regroup, and then we're going to let you re growth and get to a safe position and we'll process it back to you as soon as we can with more information, but as you mentioned, they have so far been for deaths and your sources the saying up to 6, possibly in this conflict. so thank you for your time's animal prospecting shortly . let's get some analysis now from sammy naida, who is the director of the lavon institute institute for strategic affairs. and a columnist for l monitors, lebanon poles. he joins us from skype from bay, wrote up semi, you're obviously inside your home. so your say what have you?
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so i'm in this is, i mean the defects upward is like the beginning off. i said, the lord and the message is the clear by those who are the staging the scenes, whether you're punting, you know, with justice process with the investigation or are you afraid is the civil war. and because it comes within a context, this comes with a line based off. it's your 1st of all to intimidate the judges for prosecutor term. the judge, the dog. and ben doesn't judge so long. the one, 0, reason time kemi, i, you. so there we just want to make sure that sammy is still there. we may have lost our guest unfortunately. so what we'll do is we'll cross back to those live in beirut, and we'll let you listen to some of that gum fly that you can me a very loud and clear. i believe we,
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we do have the semi out our guest at semi naida. we have him via just audio at the stage. sammy, just give us a context as to who these 2 groups are and what's happening on the straits of beirut and the lead up to such violent tension. so we know for a fact that this, the prosecution, the investigation process did not please. and neither has the law nor ahmad and for some other allies or has more law because some of them where subject to this, or maybe because why that judge be thought and to put things into context. this is not the 1st time in charge is attack or criticize by the political establishment, namely, a close to has been law that judge salon beforehand or started with investigation
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law for us to sign this. the judge more to add them to continue the investigation process for a and in order to establish it, just because he had what we were talking about before about the most important explosion, non nuclear explosion. a dad this to all you have for the city of food that can fit into under that, at that $6000.00 a 100 percent or so it did. these people who hold creek deciding that judges are tried. first of all, to intimidate the judge, to criticize his job. yesterday, the secretary general of as for law was calling to adjust the course of investigation. this is it for free and meddling with her and just and judicially system. what that justice. so they,
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so i wanted to call and communication, it didn't work and they try to turn it to, to block. that procedure is, was some, a bypassing some roles. was some good critics, if i can put it this way, it didn't work. and now for today that the message is ready here. i mean they, they get to this, but he and that we've heard, they're like 3030 clashes. it's like they were saying either you'll continue with this investigation for all you're facing. so 7, what? so a day on the 14th to, i mean this is, it could be their last been sold for plate fails in order to do justice. and if they win, and this is the most important thing that mean this is the end of that awful ever known as. and i did the as an on the stage because your po can hear about the
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justice. what the symbol of that somebody sees that symbol of this, hey, i mean, if any political party does not agree with any investigation, what they behavior does is that all the legal ways are to which they can increase the size of the huge full force, a judgment that said, that is no judgement yet or what we're facing now, it's an investigation process, but even that because they don't agree with the course of this investigation, a process, they tried every single way in order to just process and know that. but what is put on the govern or saying if you would gone for us, found this job and that put things that way we want to work through facing the chaos backlash. it's ultimately the semi,
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i mean this is about the lebanese people and then wanting answers politics aside. i mean, these people are desperate, frances, and now it looks like, look like yet another delay because of these conflicts that are going on state and violence where to from here. i mean from here, i mean, and the board now frankly is in the camp. all. busy of. busy the government or whether they went into because what did they wouldn't the mean and base us fan or the word of the judges. but he think that they have to see it, or does they have to say a b associated fees for the less than just that just a goes. it's hold on for the day face up to their responsibility. anybody use on posters? a have to face off today,
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so responsibility to insure for full good job justice purposes, continue that way. it should because it's not only about justice, even if i'm repeating myself. it's about the very idea of southern states because at the end of the day that we're facing committee organization, that is faith inside the state. that's a good thing for you to put an order that has been on military the as the economy. and today they want to put both semi told to us a little bit about the historical importance of the area where the protesters will show that we are seeing live peaches at the moment. the major services in the context of that live in a civil war. yeah, this is a very important to the market and be with these classes in the area of how you want me 100 meters away from mine or remaining with incidents like 30 years ago.
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and one from 7 to 5, a had a new van booted to fire at their boss. and this is how the civil war. unfortunately, i'm guessing he's dropping in and out that way we'll just take these lives, which is at the moment until we line up our next guest with us or who is the professor of communications at the american university of bay rose. he joins us advice guide from bay rouge. thank you for joining us professor. we're say live pictures at the moment of an increasingly dynamic situation, violence escalating gunshots. give us a context as to the lead up to these events. this is an sion on track for investigating the explosion that occurred in lebanon
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on the 4th of august and 2020, after a year of waiting. the investigative judge should subpoena for 3 excellent stirs the previous prime minister, as well as several security officers responsible for negligence. and i have been accused because of that before the death of over 220 lebanese destroying the injury of 6000. am that the strip that displacement of 300000 individuals not to mention that massive destruction in homes at businesses so apt ever since there has been legal attempts by those ministers to try and avoid a being subpoena by the judge, which he finally issued. and they are now runaways from of,
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from the process. and they have mobilized their people. mainly it has been man, i'm out of the militias with their weapons to go and protest in arms next to the center or the courthouse invaded. and that has escalated into violence in the streets that has been constantly been instigated by husband and product and their supporters. those people who are then accused are members of those parties. and 2 members have already been sanctioned by the u. s. for corruption or corruption and the other mike the caesar act. in addition, those individuals have tried to undermine the investigation by calling get a conspiracy theory by international community on cuz a lot to try and undermine them that he on it is. those people are responsible for the crimes they should appear in front of the judge and they should give their
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statements and they should uphold their process, which they're trying to undermine buying weapons and the my, the instruction that we're seeing now, my house is less than 500 meters away. i've been urine got shots all day long. there are homes filled with children and families. not thought of being black male soul got up in the vigilance and ministers do not show up to the justice and presented their cases. they have that i to defend themselves, but they decided to start a mini ward to say read if you was justice for an explosion that destroyed the 3rd of the capital of revenue. professor, that being said, his blah and the amount of movement have relate to joint statement saying that the investigators bay the responsibility for the attacks, the parties that hide behind the blood of the victims in matters of the port in order to achieve malicious political gains is certainly not mincing words there. what's your reaction to what they've had to say that statement that is an absolute
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life. the judges knowing does work. they ought to accuse their ministers who have been or the deemed caught up by international sanctions. should show up to the investigation presented their cases not try to avoid that. both ministers are on the ways, legally in lebanon. now, they are to avoid thing, any officer 2 of the states, because they have that. i to ask them. they have to submit themselves by getting hundreds of supporters in the streets with weapons. that is a defense mechanism which is attacking justice. they live in the state and they are legally outlaws will are fighting that judge. the judge is doing his work. they can send their lawyers and present their cases. instead, they have decided to send floods with weapons. those people should be sanctioned by the international community for these lising,
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the security of lebanon. this king lives that order, the 2 people that some people are injured in the hospital of their own supporters, that they're willing to spend the blood of their own supporters. they're willing to give them and spread their blog and some of them going to the judge and presenting both cases. they all the critters, they are the ones cutting weapons and they are the ones stopping justice from thinking course math. we appreciate your passion. i want you to stay with us, but we're just going across to those live pitches now to get a sense of what's happening on the ground in by word. let's just have a listening at these days we can hear and again 5 and it seems to be a lot of movement there on this straight. we can see the army and also an ambulance just arriving at this stage. what we do know is that up to 4 people has been killed, and dozens injured crowds aligned to ship political parties were protesting at the justice palace. the lebanese army says it's moved dean and it moving off the sand
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of gunfire. i think we can actually keep some of those shots thing 5. now let's just take a listen. snipe is have mounted buildings as we understand it and tight civil. so welding to essential, bi road, multiple explosions, have been heard and demonstrate as have been dismissed. we have heard up to 6 people may have been killed that we haven't got any confirmation at this stage. let me just check with that produces whether we're going back to the professor or to xena. all right, let's cross to our correspondence, zayna, florida, who's on the ground in beirut, covering the lightest zayna. can you hear us and what are you saying at the stage? yes. well we are taking cover because of the intense, intense gotten fire. it hasn't stopped the clutches are now in the 3rd hour and the army is out in force, but they haven't been able to contain situation. the civil defense is here as well,
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waiting to move in to evacuate, the wounded and the dead. we understand from military sources that at least 4 people have been killed, that number of people injured. we also understand that one of the casualties was a woman in her home. because this is neighborhood fighting. there is a street that divides the these 2 political parties, these 2 long time enemies who are now shooting at each other. people are trapped in their homes. in fact, some children are still trapped in their schools. parents are terrorized. people are terrorized, they don't know what is happening in their city. just down the street here, 200 meters from here. that is that dividing line, a decades old dividing line dating back to the days of the civil war. we have to keep repeating this because it is really seems like this that brings back a lot of memories for many lebanese who have been traumatized by many,
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many bouts of violence really over over recent years. but this has been one of the worst bouts of violence. now how did this all a start? a few hours ago these she are political groups. dominant has been called for a protest outside the justice palace. you can still hear it is quite intense. we understand that the army has not been able to read most buildings. they are kind of rate buildings to arrest the snipers because they are snipers on top of buildings. the city is, is at least the part of the route is a war zone. and it's, it's a goes to city, people are worried, we go back to what i was talking about, this dividing line and how people are really so afraid. because when they see things like this, they know that not all as well. and this country has been going through multiple crises in recent months. the economy has all but collapsed, that the currency has collapsed. people salaries are worthless, that there is inflation. people cannot afford to put food on their tail,
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80 percent of the population. and this is a small nation for 5000000 people. they are now poor. and instead, as a government, dealing with this crisis, engaging and talks with the international monetary fund for a bailout package, there is a new political crisis in the country and it is over the investigation, the investigation into the bay report exposure last tier, that massive explosion that destroyed neighborhoods killed more than 200 people. the victims families have been demanding justice, had been demanding accountability and their supporting the lead judge in the case thought it baton. but the protest today was about putting pressure to dismiss judge guitar because the she r parties believe that he is politicized. and that he's being selected and he questions. but the opposition sees that differently. they believe that they're trying to hide something, they're refusing to cooperate with the judge. instead, they are launching and carrying out a cool against the state against judiciary. and after that, they're trying to intimidate the lebanese people into removing
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a removing that charge. so you have this deep divide, which are, which really exacerbates the already a polarized polarized society. this country, there's a deep political divide and an in leopard on it also takes on a sectarian nature. this is not just about the political party spacing off each other across a dividing line. these are to say there's the muslim shoes and the christians, and that's why it is also very dangerous. it's going to, even if the army is able to contain the situation and the guns fall silent in the next few hours. how do you reconcile these 2 groups? how are they going to live side by side? other people will say, well, we've seen this happen before lebanon and life goes on and is different political groups and the people learn to live with each other. but there is a lot of tension and this tension and people, yes, i'm sorry. we're going to have to turn around because we're not allowed to film the army. we're gonna, boy, yet we're going to put up with okay, thank you, dana,
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we can't stay here. i zayna, thank you for your time. they were gonna just quickly cross c. professor mach dow, thank he's thought michael, what i have black and the amal paddy, trying to achieve him control over the state. it's the same things that have been happening in iraq, in lebanon, and other areas, militarized opposition. political parties with arms that are beyond the state, beyond the unity of arms within the states, within the legal framework. that's step up whenever there is a process fight, but said that would contain them or their violence. so this is the same pattern happening over and over again. ever since his little arms no longer had any function except fighting wars and syria, or assuming it on agenda. and now, imposing on benny,
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been you said what that justice is allowed to do and not to do what the judge can decide or can decide. and they're drawing red lines around ministers will output up and accuse and they're saying they are above the law. and this is exactly the type of actions that weaponized militias would do to undermine the state. the operation of the states and the destabilization of the state daddy action to what we're seeing today is many more people will be cutting arms. they wouldn't want to protect their neighborhoods, they feel exposed, and they know the state might not be able to protect them. the exercise of justice by the cut and judge in the explosion of the 4th of august. if people are allowed to get away with that, then they can get away with anything. and i think that's exactly what was below, and i'm a pushing for because they are weaponized miniatures. and they're saying that old
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is bored of the malicious. not the state, not for the justice, not for law. it is for the militias. what followed m watson example is very risky and dangerous for the country like 1130, impose the thunder of course, and by going through both the community implies that an invitation for everyone to carry weapons. that is the threat that should bring to 11 on with the constant militarization of politics and the use of violence against the state mark . we appreciate your inside your stay with us, my shout professor of communications at the american university of favored. we're going to continue our coverage of the unrest that's happening in beirut. let's bring in, elliot, hannah, who is a retired lebanese general. he joined us adviser and eliot. these images were saying there, unfolding the dynamic, the violence they give of civil war. and the type of unrest that these parties are
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often i mean, we are going back to a certain pattern in lebanon. we have our me and we have militia, or you know, we have people that really are denied and they are and we had it in 1958, 1975 and 2005. we have, we have this kind of high, but player players are difference the dynamics and level of defense as well as in the region. now we have like the player that's hybrid millicat ice. they fight beyond that of unused, bought the defense. i'm the are in the and the state the are minister and the deputies. so this kind of, you may hinder the role of the government, the role of the judge. you know, when we talk about the situation and we talk about separation of color, it doesn't really affect the situation that is happening. and this is betty dunn get some say for instance, let's the army play play plays, it's role. but i mean,
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little nice to me, like if is it? and is it it's grace at the same time because you get a, when everybody agrees all the policies i be the let this army play, it's all maintain the order that it internally. and that is it because when it doesn't, it can, and we do who do remember some prime minister, the argument entities and such kinds of things will be beneficial. so we are in a situation similar to maybe when i do 75. however, the player has to be an old and you have different dynamics that the i know, i guess is william, now we have it, i guess get on that is that it presented by has so we have to find the solution not yet. and the situation. okay. alice, tell us a little bit about the role of the lebanese army. they're obviously walking
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a very tight line here. yes. and the army really that reflected that there was a nice day to flex different actions, different confessions a dean confession, and live on on 18. so they are together to put 40, so since started to stick, i'm not do it anymore. why? because they need the political decision. they need to put a cabinet that is already divided within many flaws and lines. so when you want to fit in a certain place and you want to use force, it's going to be against somebody. so you need to pick. and so, and my, what i just said earlier, it is, of course you cannot use it. and if it's in today, so nobody wants to use it now after the 3 or 4 innocent people who had a code. so i'm not as really, but he's on the list. i'm going to rush you did because we're just about to wrap.
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