prime minister when there were successive prime ministers in power, while the ammonium nitrate was in that warehouse. now those who support the baton will say true, but better has the report that was presented to hudson tib given to him and telling him you must do something about this explicit material. and deb was going to go to the port than to lie a month before that block. but he was, he was somebody called him and told him, do not go. so what baton wants to know is who called him, who called and told you her son did not to go to the court. and that question has not been answered. so there is, there's a feeling among lebanese that this culture of impunity has to and so that is what for them, at least this is what bit are stands for. now, for the other side has fallen among they believe that judge baton is politicized. they believe he should be questioning. the other prime minister is not just hassan's, you have someone that they appointed but the bottom line is this. if this

investigate, this investigation has been troubled from, from the very start. and so far, the focus has been on who was responsible for storing it there who didn't do anything about it. accusation is criminal negligence, but haven't even started to to find out who owns this ammonium nitrate, who unloaded this of. there have been documents that the army signed at, the customs signed it, but the ownership of this ammonium nitrate and some people feel that because they're getting closer to the truth. maybe this is why there are attempts to stop this probe. it's hard to say, but like i mentioned, this is not just about the judge. this is much more. this is about accountability. it is a, it is about just this really for the victims. and every person in the city was a survivor. that they, it wasn't just those who were killed. many people will say, well, if i was at home, and if i was not at home, then i would have died. and it's something people talk about till to day it

traumatized that the, the lebanese people and they want answers. and we're going to have to wait to see what this confrontation this dangerous escalation in the streets. what kind of an agreement comes out of it? among the politicians and the political parties to see where this investigation now spends zayna closer. they're doing some marvelous reporting for us from the houses by route, from the hall to the front line of those confrontations that we've been witnessing in the lebanese capital today. thank you. sign, bring that to us. we're looking at the live pictures of what appears to be, perhaps a moment where things come down. but who knows for how long will be. this is another live update. next on our dcea, it's inside story. the latest news, as it breaks, free democrats and the greens are talking to each other,

trying to iron out their differences. because together, they form a large block in parliament with detailed coverage behind the world's largest producer of low to see the children are being used to meet the rising demand from around the world. the island has increased in land masses. as if rivera with this corruption is pulling the island of palmer out of the ocean, wrecks, it troubles escalade between the u. k and b, e. u. both sides agree. customs checks in northern islands simply aren't working, but they don't to agree on the solution. is this a dispute about trade or politics and could at risk the peace in northern ireland? this is inside story. ah

hello and welcome to the program today with me, pete adobe. now when the u. k left the european union, both sides agreed to a set of trade rules known as the northern island protocol. goods from britain, a checked at ports in northern island. the province remains in the e. u single market. so trade can move freely across its land border with the republic of ireland. but nearly 2 years after breakfast, the u. k says that arrangement is not working. the government wants a new deal and it doesn't want the european court of justice as agreed under bricks . it to have oversight of the protocol, the e you is offering to remove some customs checks, but is calling for compromised to will bring in our guests in just a moment. first, this report from andrew simmons in belfast. as the u. k is breakfast minister prepared to speak in portugal, karen sloane was taking a delivery from the irish republic. it's his main supply line now and without it. his delicatessen in northern ireland would be out of business. his main suppliers

used to be in the u. k. but the trade board or in the irish c means he can't rely on them any more. karen had been hoping the you was about to smooth things out with concessions over regulations on food exported from the u. k. and streamlined custom checks. but the way the british government is now behaving leaves karen and business people all over northern ireland in doubt how much we could make up until now he, along with many others, never realized. the role of the european court of justice was an issue in the post bricks. it crisis here. no, i was thinking about us brackson and you know, protocol and this is all you hear. and um, you know, and all and your to so as a something new. another thing to worry about, you know, i were caught damm harness business la, you know, for the keeper gone, your left hand, he can angry with the politicians because the need to coordinate the need to do something about the city, the smooth as are the facts on the group, but there's nothing smooth in what the you case breaks it minister has to say he

wants to rewrite the northern ireland protocol and the device used to avoid a hard border on the island of ireland. and we now face is very serious situation. the protocol is not working, is completely lost consent in one community. nolan's now proposal looks more like a normal treaty in ways governs with international arbitration. instead of a system of the law ultimately policed in the courts of one of the parties. the european court justice, there's puzzlement in belfast on why the u. k. is taking such a hard line when there seemed to be more hope of a compromise from brussels. and so is this last minute posturing on the part of the u. k. government, if it isn't, then there's a serious escalation to this crisis. i had this at a time when it would appear. the majority of people in northern ireland want an end to their stand off. protests about the c border had been led by unionists who say that been cut off from the u. k. before becoming prime minister boris johnson had told a democratic unionist party 3 years ago that he didn't want to see in all marlyn

left in the lurch by a borderless sea. no british conservative government could or should sign up to any such arrangement. that assurance fell by the wayside. the people have gone island could be forgiven for feeding, but frayed and wall units. politicians welcome the hard line from the british government. there's a feeling of unease for many people living here. andrew simmons al jazeera belfast . ah. okay, let's bring in our guests today joining us from belfast, o. unready, assistant general, secretary of the irish congress of trade unions in brussels. we have nicholas white, senior director in brussels for co, worldwide. that's a global public affairs and strategic communications consultancy. and in cambridge, in the u. k, we have gram gudgusten research associate at the university of cambridge and formerly a special adviser to the former 1st minister of northern ireland. david trimble.

gentlemen, welcome to all graham in cambridge coming to 1st the e. u is offering some tweaks, some changes here for the d u p. why isn't that enough? oh, we don't know yet. we're going to have to look at the full prints. it does look as if it was made a significant effort to a situation cut down the number of checks on goods going in from great britain to know what the internal customer trade in within the u. k. which obviously it's very uncomfortable to you. it's because it, it makes no vital to feel like a semi can touch out of the united kingdom. so my guess is it probably won't be enough, but we should recognize, i think we'll be moving in right, right direction next. that's why in brussels quite should you law have primacy in

northern ireland because this is what the british agrees to when the bridge agreement was 1st place is very difficult. sitting brussels to avoid the impression, the point of what's going on here isn't actually reach your particular solution. the point is to continue fighting because this goes down well with british voters. there was no problem as you report frankly says with the european court of justice as part of the north alarm system is now operating there's been no involvement actually if the are. ready in court of justice, so far, this is an invention, invention problem. and we're seeing now that there's some very generous movement by the you, which is to be now stations day has already been previous, counted by a british government, who are simply more interested in having a function in solution. can i contextualize that question nicholas and ask you it again though, why should the european court of justice are primacy in northern ireland? because the e. c. j doesn't have privacy and wales or scotland,

the u. k. left the european union. why not just say ok? well, the e, c, j has primacy in brazil or canada, or australia simply wouldn't fly. well, i mean, you may also notice, but there is actually a land border between the republic of ireland, which remains to europe in which is inside united kingdom on the island. and in order to keep that order open, one has to make certain concessions, certain arrangements to do with regulation. and the u. k. knowing full well was it was. ready doing agreed that the european court of justice should have that should have a supervisory vote on this. otherwise you have to invent an entirely new arbitration system from scratch. but actually won't do that much work because there isn't all that much to do things in bigger tracy's, which that you has with larger countries, like as you mentioned, brazil or you claim for that matter. you do set up standalone arbitration was because there's a lot of work to be done. this isn't a case like this is a case where we're looking at the continued application you law in the terrace

really? where is it always out until that under look and how that should be managed? why on earth should you invention? you arbitration system rather than the body which already overseas the implementation of the regulations. it doesn't make any sense. so. oh, in reading in belfast, what's this debate so far done to your members when it comes to jobs when it comes to production levels? and if it goes south and they implement so called article 16 because everyone can walk away from this unit. actually if they choose to, what would that do to business across the border? well, thanks peter. 100 and yet, because we're still in this political impasse. but anything that adds to uncertainty, anything that adds to the cost of doing business has the potential to not only just undermine the standards of labor, but undermine the custody of jobs to be maintained. and you know, obviously the biggest concern is the huge political instability that this political

impasse is continuing to create. and it seems to us as an organization that represents workers from both traditions and migrant workers. that we really need now is political consensus. it seems to me that in the summer months you can go look for concessions from the ian. it seems this afternoon are going to be deliver . and that must create the context for a negotiation. and we really need see diplomacy, negotiation and good faith restored to international relations. here, i think the u. k. government has some way to go to get to that place. going go to an in cambridge, how much of the motivation for this as far as boris johnston's government in london is concerned actually comes down to him. clearly wanting to safeguard the good friday agreement. because if he does that, that plays well to his breaks it hard liners in his own party that plays well to the 52 percent of the british electorate who voted for bricks. it, i, it's good politics. well,

he's gone to the bank to protect the good friday agreement, same commercial treatments. it's important important not only for the u. k, but for the violence they say. and i have this the thing to say about this is the new service for forest johnson. very few people in great britain in the majority of bank 8 percent of the u. k, which is outside and don't really care all that much about this. he's not going to get the votes history, the fact of a sense of duty and morality. but i think to be fair, we can also say that he had promised the unionist wasn't saying he's trying to retain that position. great. the protocol 2 years ago when he got in a very weak position, agreement negotiated

a great time with us. it's not working, it's opposed by a large number of them and it's time to change it. remind you it's in the interests of you to take this. this is a source of that could go on to the fact all further relationships between you can be here. now is the time to sort it out for everyone satisfaction and michael, it's a big company. so nicholas white and brussels, he was shaking your head there as graham was talking about boris johnson and morality in the same sentence. unfreeze i was restored to you perfectly. well, as you say to you still he said that this was ready to view. should he won the election on the basis of this year, which is now turned into a few days. i don't see anything charity moral or ethical about o in radian belfast. you allowed yourself a rise smile. there is any one in the room really surprised the boorish johnson might be considering doing a complete you turn on this, if you believe dominant cummings, formerly

a very close source of information cheek by jowl with boris johnson in number 10 until he handled his involvement with corona virus, wrongly and then had to be got rid of it in, in a very delayed way, i guess. but he's basically saying in the daily mail today for his johnson was always going to do a u. e on this. i don't think anyone was surprised and i would agree entirely with nicholas. the only thing that's really been consistent during the bars johnson regime is the inconsistency. i mean, not so long ago, david frost was extolling purchase agreement. the very agreement he negotiated. now he's trying to dishonest, i mean, if, if a junior training and official behave that way after negotiating the agreement was abroad, it wouldn't last very long. so, you know, there are issues with the protocol and it's a result of the hard branch of the, the sparse johnson government sauce. and assisted upon the unionist of highlighted some very legitimate concerns. they need to be taken on board. and i think of the context of what the are going to deliver today. they will be taken on board and

what we really need to see our voices in northern ireland involved in this because this is an issue that can be done to the people of northern don't with us. i think the u. k. government and the you need to engage with civic society, the political class, lawyers, trade unions right across the board in order to make sure that the issues with the protocol are address so that we can all move forward because you are right to say the belfast friday agreement has been undermined by briggs on a d, by the protocol to tell the relationship crucial. i think we can only restore that voices and right across the piece that wants to build a consensus on aren't interested in division and rancor, but actually want to bring people together. are headed under center stage. nicholas white and brussels. you've gone from shaking your head, nodding in agreement there, when the e u is talking about to tallahassee, and it's also signaling quotes creative solutions. what might those solutions be? i mean,

this is going to come down to technical fixes for the customs administration, which i'm not that familiar with. i understand it will require actual functional data bases, commercial transactions and access to those databases from both sides. but i also want to pick up another important point, which is the consultation with norm stakeholders, both electors and from civil society. they use proposals today, or they are going to include a certain level of consultation, which has so far been up in the process. it would be nice to hurt dental, so from the with cross. yes. let's go back to go and go to the cambridge grand kennedy. you p live with a de facto irish northern island border done. the irish sea between the island of island and the british isles. no. com because it's separate from the rest of the u. k. as as you know, it was an ongoing campaign by nationalists and those island back by the republic of

ireland to achieve in the long run the united ireland the majority in no, absolutely. don't want to be completely their want and in the i received your step or 2 in the direction before it's enough for them to to union the single item. and it will be, it will be a post. and therefore it's undermining the provider agreement. and the protocol itself says to support the private agreement, it's absolutely posing serious social disruption. no as central to to, to do that. and this, this needs to be sorted out and they sold it out so that the majority of both communities in northern ireland. let's see this summer something is satisfactory. i think almost everyone agrees that the single market has to be protected. but the have to be some, some means of

a stopping illegal goods getting into the republic about where there are other ways of doing that. sort of trying to crack and not and it needs to be needs to be simplified and reformed. i will say tomorrow when the paper it's published. it's her father coming to nicholas and brussels. coming back to you . this e, you olive branch that we seem to be discussing now seems to be as well, annoying the french. is there a genuine source of annoyance there specifically with this issue, or is it just forgive me? is it just the french being the french, or is there kind of a, a backwash here from other sources of anger? in the relationship between paris and london, we've got the migrant crisis. we've got phishing permits being debated and the french for the past 3 weeks have been hopping mad over the orcus deal. yeah, well i can't speak for french. i sit in brussels and city arest. look,

the proposals have got french banking or they would not 8 the coast, so just settle that. yes. the relationship between france london between harrison loves not moment is particularly bad. looked at in a tenure perspective. it's a combination of the fishing permit sounds. see the summary deal with australia versus there's charity falls on both sides there. but the current on instability doesn't really help. and i very much your source. ready wants the set about the need for a more stable pushing progress towards relationship. it's true to an extent that we're looking at a situation where a protocol didn't essentially not needed even just braces going really in belfast as far as your members are concerned and you have members on both sides of the board. you have a strong membership in the republic and you have a strong membership in northern ireland. if it's as simple as the e, you being creative with things like the way that for example,

cooked meats and sausage meat is labeled. so sausage meat might go from being labeled a sausage meat to and i cook national identity food products. okay, now of course there are some bread top papers in the u. k. are going to go completely mental with joy if and when that happens, of course they will. but if that's what it has to happen, what if that's what has to happen? why didn't they just do this 2 years ago? well, i think in any negotiation, peter, you need to know that you have an honest partner that adheres to the agreement that they have signed up to. and we haven't seen that good for a good faith approach. you can't go. and so, if i were your opinion on negotiations, payment for your boss, johnson would be incredibly cautious, but making concessions because it seems any concession you make it rejected even before the concession is made. so i think i looked up,

but if i could just very briefly come back, i'm solving graham said i agree with when he says the protocol or a protocol needs to support communities. but there is a border in the island violence soft. we need to keep soft, but there has been a border in the irish sea for years. it's called devolution u. k is not a military state. there are rules and laws and northern scotland, wales names that are different. now, we don't want to see any additional border infrastructure between northern ireland and britain, but we don't want to see it between northern public about and so it's about squaring that circle and it's about moving away from 0. so i, when you lose black and white because it's a lot more gray and i think it's about compromising. and it's about being people, people being confident. but that can really happen if they're empowered and you know, i don't think everyone and know that i don't respect their political tradition to rely on the u. k. government to do their bidding for them. and that's why the voices and none of them are nationalist or other need to be heard more great. they're all voices, perhaps not in northern ireland,

but elsewhere in the you talking about potential here. it all goes belly up there talking about the potential here for trade war tariffs out of the u. k. or tariff goods out to the u. k. say it's sausage, meet cooked, meets. that's one thing. but if you start imposing tariffs on luxury goods, you know, bottles of moult, whiskey, luxury motor cars, that's a completely different ball game. how far down that road potentially is the european union prepared to go not very far. i don't think the protocol itself says that if, if i the side in folks article 16 which will suspend the protocol and any reaction has to be a propulsion that they can trade we're talking about is so small proportions action would also have to be small. if you wants to up the ante here and started to trade all that and the next previous silly thing, this is a small matter,

but the very little danger here from single market all year. this time really to, to, to take a step back here and dump this right down, but let's get this sorted. so there are ways of protecting the single market without having the unique. i can't think of that, for example, anywhere in the world. we have a major customers trade with inside one country, but was impose on the, you know, the time of great weakness and division and the, you need to recognize, sit down and agree with you have a central way of doing this is what the people of the protocol has nicholas white and brussels, i guess part of that process of recognizing what might happen as far as brussels is concerned is a calculation. the calculation is got to be surely. what's the strength of feeling inside 10 downing street? how do they view the stance?

so far on the part of boris johnson's government. yeah, i mean that's not make a mistake that european union wants to see this one. ready settled dealt with, but there is a strong perception that shipment is more interested in the fight than in the solution. i don't yesterday speech bond or crossed to nothing. also average to sell . ready lesson question, until there is a sense the person is actually interested in the go chasing rather than crushing devices on to contin. is it good news? oh, in that we are not starting this process this coming couple of days, couple of weeks with a take it or leave it atmosphere on the part of either side. well i, i had to refresh, suggested air that shows a bit more like a take it or leave an attitude which is which, which was regrettable. i really hope that the announcement later on from jessica, which creates the context for negotiations, where people can go in to negotiation in good faith using the proper diplomatic

channels. and without the, without the mega full diplomacy, we can train me understand and reach an accommodation agreement that will be in the interests of the european union in the u. k. crucially, or interests of all of the people of northern ireland and the island of central. and we need that space now and we need to move away, as i said before, 0. so again, i think that you will also have to look at what's happening in poland and hungary because the rule of law and making sure that agreements are honored in the countries enter into the other is crucial. so i think you will look at the context of, of the wider situation in any negotiation with government given you government's up to date 10 seconds each. please gentlemen gram. gotcha. and cambridge, a year from now, do you think it'll be a soft border or a hard border or are you talking about about in the irish said, no, it's a border between island in the republic. oh i hope you know,

there's no question of the many ways of solving this problem with nicholas white and brussel south florida. hard border agree with graham soft is much more likely. so in radian belfast last last week to belfast you, you're in the middle of this debate in south florida or a hard border has to be a soft board in north and south and needs to be a softer border east and west. it's in the interest of both communities and everyone. gentlemen, thank you so much for giving us your insights into this very dense, very complicated story, but i think we've managed to break it down into its composite parts and dare i say we've made brakes. it slightly more understandable and it was half an hour ago. thank you so much. thank you to i guessed they were own ready. nicholas white and grim. gotcha. and thank you to for your company. you can see the show again. any time via the website out is your dot com and for more discussion, go to our facebook page. that is facebook dot com, forward slash ha, inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. our handle, you know,

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