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that's easy, crucial component of understanding what 3rd, that goes to our own plan of the earth. we can't defend our self from objects which we don't know anything about next month. nasa plans to launch its dark spacecraft with the intention of deliberately colliding with an asteroid. it's all part of a planetary defense strategy, even as lucy begins. it's years long. search for answers and gallagher al jazeera miami, florida. a hello. are you watching al jazeera and these are the top stories, the sound? a group of taliban ladies has arrived in news. becker's done regional security will be high on the agenda after another major attack. i still in afghanistan, says it was behind the killing of 48 people. at a sheer mosque in the taliban stronghold of kanda. 19 people have been detained in lebanon,
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in connection with those days gun fighting by route 7 people were killed when fighting began during a protest caused by his beloved protest is a gathering in sudan capital to demand a greater representation in government. they're made up of an alliance of armed groups and opposition. members. here morgan has more from cartoon that group comprised of civilian political parties, as well as arm group and opposition. now those 2 had a division about how to go see it with the military that negotiated that i was a former president to here and eventually led to forming the transitional government. so they say that they're not represented enough and they're demanding that the transitional government, which includes several political parties, include them not just in the national level or in some states where some of the groups are. but in the around the country in those states around the country and in the legislative assembly, that is yet to be found in those states and go safe and international creative
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assembly. 7 activists in hong kong have been sentenced to prison for their roles. and lastly is pro democracy. protests sentences range between 6 and 12 months. the government says these individuals are organizing and inciting others to take part in the unauthorized assembly tributes of being paid to the u. k. and paid david amos who was faithfully stamped on friday, the prime minister barak johnson visited lay on se, alongside the leader of the opposite. sion british place describing the incident is a terrorist attack and what is expected to be masses longest and most extensive mission has blasted off from florida. lucy will be the 1st air craft or spacecraft rather to study jupiter's ancient trojan asteroids. it will take 12 years and cover more than 6000000000 kilometers. those are the headlines state you now for inside story. ah,
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lebanon is in morning after his worst street violence in years. the 7 people were killed in gun battle between rival 6 in beirut. the countries already facing economic and political collapse. so could this trigger more instability? this isn't so story. ah. hello, welcome to the program. i'm im, ron kahn, the streets and lebanon's capital, beirut, a quiet after a day of violence. but some one, it could just be the calm before the storm in a country already in the middle of political and economic chaos. let's remind you
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of lebanon's precarious situation. the currency lost more than 90 percent of his value in 2 years. people can't afford food, medicines or fuel, nor can they rely on basic services like electricity, healthcare, or even rubbish collection. many lebanese blame politicians for years of corruption and mismanagement. and last year's beirut, pope lost the killed more than 200 people is seen as a symbol the states failure. now thursday began with cher groups including his bala holding riley's calling for the removal of the judge. investigating that pope lost the accused tarik baton, a be politically biased. now the army initially said snipers fired the demonstrators. it's since claim to funds on a dispute between protesters and another group. so the holden has more from there, there is a cautious com after nearly 5 hours of a deadly clashes along a dividing line that dates back to the days of the civil war that ended in 1990.
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the guns may have fallen silent, but the crisis is far from over. the tension started because of a judge. the lead judge investigating the bay route port explosion. the she are political groups, their strong hold across the street. they are demanding that he be removed. they believe he is politicized. while the opposition disagrees, they believe that baton should be given a chance to complete his investigation or before judging him. and the opposition accuses has bella and amal, of staging, a cool, using their weapons to impose their will. now there are conflicting narratives on how the confrontation began each side, blaming the other for starting the confrontation of the army issuing a statement not blaming really either side. the army is in a very difficult position, delicate position because of the sea and taking one side against the other. it could split along sectarian lines as what happened during the civil war. what
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happens next? what we understand is, has been a mile, are not going to back down. they are insisting better be removed. they're also threatening to pull out from the government. after 13 months of political paralysis, our government was formed last month. if they walk out cabinet cannot govern simply because an entire sector is not represented in violation of lebanon's power, sectarian, carry on power sharing agreements. so difficult days ahead. the crisis is over. and really, this is an old battle. it's an old political divide between different groups on how they see 11 on on how they see a state. this is in there for inside story. everyone's problem, mrs says it's not the job of politicians to intervene in the judiciary. laza hawk gladly removing the prob, judge is not up to politicians. we have a stand the prob, judge should 1st preserve the laws and the constitution many, including myself,
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may believe there is a constitutional error. but the judiciary has to decide, and that body can rectify itself, not the politicians. the violence has been condemned around the world. cattle urged all parties in lebanon to avoid escalation and exercise restraint. the foreign ministry called the national interest to be prioritized, over partisan and political lungs. russia said it was extremely concerned and called for restraint and prudence. and iran condemned the killing of the protesters and said it, believe the government, the army, and the resistance in lebanon will successfully overcome additions, backed by israel. ah, let's bring in our guests in beirut, sammy, another director of the levant institute for strategic affairs in doha. rami hoary director of global engagement in the american university of beirut. and also in beirut, jessica aid and activist and independent energy policy consultant. thank you for joining so much begin in beirut. we're that you saw me neither on the surface this
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looks like has bola and amal, bullying, the government and the judiciary into making a change that they want. is that a fair assessment? i think it's fair assessment. this is what the action one has to say, or the action of the cyber is supposed to be acceptable. shooty on demonstrators is totally unacceptable. however, x and our minds are okay it's, i'm trying to blow up justice for procedures who is a reaction. now we don't know if these flashes where like a genuine reaction of that wonders who is, is that something state, but we will soon know this. if the outcome of all this man will be the suspension
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of that john speaker. for that reason, dad social city got sad to see that we have witnessed a scenery in order to suspend the action of the judge. bearing in mind that this, that they have been trying every to block the investigation, the process. they have been trying political oppression. they have been trying intimidation, they have been trying legal tricks. and recently they took it to the city they played on empty me trying to dive the country into a civil war or something close to a civil war in order to block that justice procedure. let's bring in rami hoary into lebanon. has the right of free assembly has the right of to protest yet they
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will snipers. they show into the crowd. we don't know who they are. what is going on is this, you know, change by violence. well, what's going on is something, unfortunately, that has happened before and lebanon. people take to the streets, unknown gunman or non people, but explosives. it. the tragedy is that it could be any of 2 or 3 or 4 possible groups or, and people who might want to do this to shoot up the demonstrators initially, the marchers who came into the area, of course the, the march was provocative, was just going near the christian majority area, some of them like she, i, she also, there was some provocation there clearly, but that's the whole point actually. situation from the m a side was to assert themselves saying we're not going to accept this, this investigation the way it's going now. and then people shot at them. so
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these things happen unfortunately regularly because the country has never figured out a way to adjudicate disputes, political disputes, and in a political way. the election system doesn't seem to do it. the judicial system doesn't seem to do it. and therefore, people take, take to the streets and now you have a unusual situation where has valez so powerful and strong military and politically that it feels that come lay down red lines on the surgeon itself. and this is, this is one of them. i tried to do that with the u. m. investigation, the international mixed investigations that had a killing. and i wasn't able to because of the international link. so this is unfortunately part of the modern lebanese political culture, which is a little bit disjointed,
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slightly this dysfunctional. it's not going to be easily resolved. well, let's bring in. jessica obeyed. hey, it was also very jessica. you were a big part of the protests over electricity sources. days over general, mismanagement in level itself. now you're seeing these protests, are you worried that protesting is become a very dangerous affair, and 11 on is this an escalation in your opinion? it can not compare. demonstration that happened yesterday of the group of justice and comfortability, the process of people demanding basic services and accountability. there are no similarities. and the prod that what we're seeing in terms of the shortage lack of basic services is that people are no longer mobile. i mean, like they did, and over 2019, and that's probably the port j's how low people are hoping that change can happen.
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so what, who is missing is probably be that the people who want basic services and best of luck conditions are not so hopeful that they can have them anymore. so me know, the how much of this is about just this topic baton and how much of this is actually just about his bullet one thing to get the outcome that they want. i mean this is a really good question. there is a lot about just the thought because at the end of the day it's not about to judge about the kids. the judge will be talking about that they do not this explosion, unprecedented in history, not on, but you were talking about a blog that they did that always have 266000 wounded. anybody even want to know the true one to know the truth about what
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happened so they might get better evening. not all a once in a 30 minute. this is on one side. on the other side. yes, this is it. that is a community completing the fact that this big event comes to add on many frustration that even these people are or part of that even people are they are holding grudges against has been law because it's about this be lost, but it's about a 70 or every day, a nice day is losing one additional attribute. it's somebody who the advantage of has been or not. so the elephant in the room here is a lot that this today a state inside the state. it, in fact, is that if
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a new state inside the state, we're talking about a population that is hostage of a military organization that has the upper hand on the executive side, on the military side, on the list that side. and now they are put the pressure to curb the judiciary, to there needs to go there to, to, to the way they wanted. so they, they, they are putting the pressure on this judge in order to get it that way they wanted. they even said we me, we need to adjust the course of the investigation. what does it mean to adjust the course of the investigation? that means if justice is not the way i see it, i don't want that. i refuse it. and when we looking about judges about justice, we're talking about very building block because this is the value upon which you
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build a society. so we put us, there is a family of family. let me put a very important point to rami heard from me has bullet or state within a state, and they're trying to now change the course of judiciary. do you agree, disagree? i think that's pretty accurate, has about last brown, so strong. over the last, whatever, almost 40 years, because the state was weak, it's has been, was birth started and they're south of lebanon after the israelis occupied the south. but the genesis has been lower as she activists in the south who are working for social justice and improving the positions of she will really like 3rd class citizens, back of forties and fifties. so grew because the state was not playing the role,
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it should of treating all its citizens equally. a developing all the areas in the country equally and more importantly, protecting the country from foreign aggression but grew so strong that it became stronger than the states military. and it's not just stronger than the new state, as well as the only military group that has force israel twice to aspire at the un security council. let me quite astounding. busy situation, its military strength is enormous. and the fact that it's linked to iran very closely creates big problems if it was a purely lebanese institution, which is a lebanese institution. but it's links are strategic very, very close with iran, many lebanese who don't like it, criticize it because they see it as an appendage of iranian foreign policy. and iran in foreign policy has been under and recent years to have a collection of strategic relationships with groups all around them,
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at least under the, succeeded in doing that. it has the networks of non state actors as well as some states like the syrian government. and therefore, it can project its power or its interests around the region, and many lebanese are not comfortable with that. so it's a delicate position of being very powerful, right, and being very what it does. but what one of the things that doesn't do very well as political contestation and compromise, it's whatever you want to bring. and jessica on this point, jessica, well, we spoke in october 2019. during those protests, you had very strong words to say about the way lebanese society and politics was actually set up. you calling for complete radical change of the confessional system of the, the way lebanese politics is, is naturally constitutionally sectarian. is this one of the reasons you think that has bullets are able to maintain such power and such employment?
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so the only reason is that they actually are a non the grew and they have grown stronger of all the institutions of the public. so we're seeing that the dominant party now, and they used to be not on the forefront of government, but in the past, if the governments have been so much on the forefront. so that also put them into a different situation with constituents as well. because at some point they also have to be it to provide basic services being on the front of government. they can be a hold of the accountability for the shortages and basic services so that, that is also a game changer for them internally as well. so let me know that where is the lebanese elemy this, they're the one symbol of lebanese national unity. and yet that says we are not strong statements coming out from them. and certainly the not on the streets.
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definitely today the army is booked under a lot of pressure. however, however, the ship order from the government and viewed the problem that the government is. ready to release the thoughts of the owner of the behavior of the appropriation. for instance, how the president of the constant, mr. prime minister. what was his reaction one day when you was getting into the onto the, to the order. it's sort of the fire, but he's all what you have to say that i'm sad or what happened. so here we are in a song of the government that is supposed to get the order on that is
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our owners, and they are the to the they call a concert balance that's up to the bullets. get that activities that power is growing by today today is more powerful than that and no government can stop to him. this is why i think that the only way forward is to like an independent government to be strong for them to move forward. a government that can get the right order to anybody in order to stop this slide into the unknown because the levy, if these incidents yesterday. so anything, it shows how much approach i is her peace liver,
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and the situation in lebanon. and what is at stake? i am saying it said that really the coordinate value upon which or the social piece is relying on a plus, i mean, any blow to that just is today. it is, it brought to that fine at home to let her know that the strong change in a very city economic crisis. because the only way out of the prices is to have some kind of package and the, some kind of international aid and best condition by fighting production. i'm can fight corruption though it was, i mean, you make a very good point. actually, i was going to come on to international support rami, i'm going to bring you in here. the u. s. has pledged $64000000.00 to the lebanese army in the wake of this particular crisis. but what sammy is saying is that with a government that so divided, it actually effectively makes the lebanese only useless. well,
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i wouldn't say useless now, the army still plays important girl. and in fact, over the last 1015 years since the syrians were pushed out of lebanon by popular rebellion, i mean, they still have influences, but they don't run the country like they used to. they, the political system has really deteriorated and has been run by an oligarchy of sectarian leaders. and corruption has increased on all the public services of deteriorated. and that's why we have this terrible situation. and the central bank was in cahoots with this process too. but the army has been rebuilt has been since the civil war has, has played a big role. busy internally they've in the recent years, they've quickly come out and been deployed whenever there was any intention of fighting. and they've been doing this more and more like they did yesterday they,
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they came out quickly. they separated the 2 fighting groups, whoever the other group was and they give the citizens a sense that somebody is going to try to work for the well, they have the whole country and not allow the country to slip back into the active sick area and work there so i think we have to notice that the army has done a better job over the years has increased, but it has limits about how far i can go because it is right. has like ever moved the other institutions are pre, has a balance of sectarian leaders within it and the soldiers so it can like in the civil war can fracture along 6 area lines on that's. busy something that people want avoid at all costs, just kind of aid. once again, both i guess it's talking about the fact that the government does need to shake up something you've been saying. since those october 2019 protest those protests,
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let's be honest, didn't change anything. this protest may will have an impact on the judiciary, but very, very different thing. so the thing that you were protesting about which was change in government ever go any hope that something might change soon. are you losing hope? i'm not using her. i do have hope now. it's like live for the 1st on the did this system actually stuffing up, at least in an attempt to hold someone comfortable and which doesn't happen in the past the happens in the civil war. so that's the precedent for living. and i'm and upcoming induction because the has a lot and might lose a christian cover. most of hope will about the generation and change. i find that it's too soon to get to the process. none of the professors have to be got into power. we haven't had any change in the political scene since then. the governments have been unstable, but also have adopted
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a policy of inaction. we have disastrous impulse needs, and maybe that's what i'm trying to change. the point that we're running out of time, but i do want to put your point to, i guess in barry's on in doha, just very, very quickly saw me know that is this i moment of the judiciary really standing up for itself as jessica just said, i didn't get the question, so is this is, this is jessica just said, the judiciary standing up for itself and saying we are, we are actually what we're witnessing. what we're missing is a kind of, of awakening of the judges. because it's not only about the judge to be taught before a judge. what did where judge judge someone who was forced to resign because he did not accept to abide by the rule of a prevailing for sure. i'm running out. i do want to have some. i do want to hear
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from rami on this point as well, sorry, just running out. so i'm on testing say from all 3 of you rami is this a new moment for the lebanese to dish, or it's a, it's a very important wal mart for judge guitar. whether he represents a bigger movement than the judiciary or not, we'll have to wait and see. but this is really historic for somebody like him, to face up to the pressures against him and try to get him to resign a. it's going to be a momentous decision when the, if a decision was made to have resigned and be replaced, or to keep pushing on with his investigation. i want to thank all our guests. so me know that raleigh hurry and jessica bate, i want to thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. how does there at dot com, a valid discussion? go to a facebook page at facebook dot com, forward slash inside story. and you can also join the conversation on twitter. we are at a j in fi story from me, amman,
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