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powell died from cove at 19 complications. he was the 1st african american to serve as boat secretary of state. and as the country's top general reaction from our white house correspondent and expert guests is coming up 1st, les harding looks back on colon pals. life and korea, colin powell spent his career breaking barriers, the son of jamaican emigrants. powell spent 35 years in the u. s. army leading combat forces in vietnam and eventually becoming a 4 star general. powell was ronald reagan's national security adviser in the 1980 song in 1989 george h. w. bush made him the pentagon's top military officer, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. i will do whatever present united states directly to do and what the bush administration wanted. the invasion of iraq in january 1991 in response to its invasion of kuwait several months before and with

unrelenting, overwhelming use of military force. the powell doctrine was born. you have to have a clear understanding of why they're being committed for what purpose and can't just be. we're seeing all this terrible stuff in the gulf war turned powell into a hero. many wanted him to run for president, but powell refused. instead, he broke the color barrier once more, the 1st african american to serve as secretary of state. during george w bush's presidency. it was a tenure during which powell did the one thing that ultimately damaged his reputation. arguing for the invasion of iraq in 2003 before the un security council acts and iraq's behavior show that saddam hussein and his regime are concealing their efforts to produce more weapons of mass destruction. the evidence of powells case turned out to be false. powell accepted responsibility for helping to lead the

country into what he later called an unjustified war. deeply regret that the information, some of the information at all that some of the information i presented with for the multi source was wrong. and it is of a lot on my record. but yeah i, there's nothing i can do to change that blot over time paddles regret turned into disillusion with the republican party. he endorse democratic presidential candidate barack obama in 2008. the visibility will expire because of the inclusive nature of his campaign because he is reaching out all across america. he gave similar reasons for backing hillary clinton over donald trump in 2016, and did the same for joe biden in 2020 with joe biden. the white house, you will never doubt that he will stand with our friends and stead up to our adversaries. never the other way around. after the storming of the u. s. capital on january 6th, 2021 by then president, trump supporters. powell announced he was quitting the republican party and he

called on trump to resign. not surprising for a man who had always believed in duty to country before politics and had devoted his career to just that. so our 1st guest to talk about the life of colon pal, joining us from culture citizens household instead who is a u. s. foreign policy specialist deputy dean at the university of essex. thank you for your time, natasha. i feel with someone like colin powell be easiest or best way to deal with his life is to go chronologically. because what happened in 2003, his decision over the war in iraq can overshadow everything. but there is a lot more to this man, isn't it? yes, there is any besides the fact that he was the 1st african american secretary of state, he also was a long time general and had the highest military position in the department of defense. and he oversaw over $28.00 crises, including the invasion of panama, and then of course operation desert storm at the 1st gulf war in iraq. and he was

one of the most admired political and military figures in the u. s. his approval rating was at 88 percent and that really didn't waver much. of course, he was affected by his support for the 2nd iraq war. but overall, he was one of these figures that all americans liked. whether they were democrats or republicans, and he had a very low disapproval rating of only 6 percent. so this was one person that everybody could agree upon. and that's why there was so much love for her over this idea that he should run for president. and he would have won because he just was so popular, he was perceived to be trustworthy, and someone that all americans could relate to that. that's what i was just about to ask why what, why was this men so popular? but i feel you, you've gone into that now, was there always going to be a transition from the military to politics for someone like him who had that much

influence and, and as you say, high approval. well, he was always just one of these generals that politicians felt that they could trust and he was able to communicate very well. and for this reason, the politicians you know and wanted to, to work with them. and so we saw that he was the one person chosen by the bush administration to, to speak in front of you. and because he was a person that just had credibility. and he, there wasn't really any blemishes on his, his record. and because he was so likable from either party, the republicans or the democrats, that he was going to be this type of person that would transcend the military and then pursue a career as secretary of state in diplomacy. 2003. i think we need to start bringing that into the conversation, this decision to whether you remember the famous speech he gave before the united nations talking about w. m d in iraq,

unequivocally. and then later retracting it essentially how much of a stain, if i can put it that way. does that leave on his diplomatic career, at least well, it was definitely a stain, and he himself admitted that this was quote, unquote of lot. on his record, he was someone that didn't want to involve the us in unnecessary military action. that was part of the pol doc powell doctrine. and that in any kind of military action necessitated public support and needed to ensure that it was in u. s. national interests. so at the time he was trying to advise bush not to go into iraq. he says, we know how to go into baghdad, but you're going to need to have some kind of plan for nation building and state building afterwards. and then we're not really prepared for that. so he had worn bush, many times about this, but his warnings went unheeded in as a result, he was set up to then defend us of what the u. s. was going to do in iraq in front of u. n. and by doing so,

he really made the situation quite worse because he was reading a speech where he, he mentions a caare 21 times in this speech. this was someone who wasn't about well known and then suddenly became much more well known of eventually leading to all kate in iraq . so the speech and did a lot of harm. and also of course, the invasion of iraq did a lot of harmony. there was much feeling that how who some least trusted so much had betrayed many people because all the information he had given or at least some of it turned out to not be true. natasha, stay there for me if you would and hate listening as well. cuz i've got another guest i want to bring in and get some thoughts are this is lawrence called joining us foreign, a former assistant secretary of defense who worked with colin powell also senior fellow at the center for american progress on scott from washington d. c. thank you for your time as to cobra and condolences as well. i'm sure you could hear what natasha and i were discussing there. she was raising the point that in some ways maybe colin powell was almost set up and i don't became

a full guy of the public folk. i for the invasion of iraq. well, vice president cheney said you are the only one who has the credibility to make the case given you know, some of the other statements that the backgrounds of the other people and the administration. and i spoke to him after he did what i was not no longer in government, no was have he said it was a big mistake. but what he was really trying to do was be a good soldier. and you know, if you're a soldier and you get an order as long as it's not illegal and you don't agree with it, you still have to carry it out. and i think what he was trying to do, he knew they were going to go. he knew that you couldn't make a definitive case, but there was a reasonable chance that some of this intelligence might be right. and don't forget the statement that they wanted him to give. he didn't give, i mean, he cut it down. he and his colleague rich armor to join also work what basically

you know, it took out a lot of the stuff that was in there originally. so i think he was trying to compromise and do the best he could. and unfortunately, it has permanently tarnished his reputation as a statesman, but not as a soldier. ok, has i wanted to question, how did it permanently thomas? is that the only thing when, when it comes to his diplomatic career that people think of because i'm sure he did a lot more than that. and he did belatedly. he made his retraction as well. yeah. not, no doubt about it, but i mean, a lot of people did not know that he was a hero and vietnam war example. people forget that, you know what he did. they are the fact that after iran contra, he came into the reagan administration, back from his army career and got things back on track. i mean, people forget how dangerous that was. reagan could have been in peach. it wasn't so

near the end of his term with the whole around conferences. and you know, he had worked in the pentagon, went out into the field as a commander and came back and took over the national security council. and that has not received the attention that ensure, you know, what he did there, a previous guest was saying how popular colin powell was. maybe you can give us a bit of personal insight into why that is, what was it about him? which made people like him, which gave him those high approval ratings as an army general and then into early diplomatic career as well. well, 1st of all, he had a wonderful sense of humor. he was always smiling and laughing and he would say that you murder aside even though some, you know, very serious type of things. he was very smart and he could take complex issues and put them in language that normal people you know, could, could, could understand. it was also

a role model because basically he was an african american that was serving in the military in the southern part of the united states before, you know, the segregation had ended and it was very, very difficult for him to be there. you know, any handle that, you know, so well. and then of course, vietnam, which was unwinnable war, he was able to do that and, you know, go get his soldiers through it. so i think you're right. i mean, a lot of people don't know that they only know he came on board a secretary of steak and since the whole rock war was such a mass, he got tarnished by lauren say there for me if you would. and also natasha who's there. i'm going to come back to both of you, but i do want to check in with our white house correspondent, kimberly how come now and also, and kimberly maybe take us through the actual news of today. how did this news break, and what is the family said? well, the family broke the news over social media,

noting that not only had they lost a beloved family member, but also the united states had lost a great american. so now we're watching very carefully for some of the reaction that has come out. and the 1st to come out in a statement is from the former president george w bush. of course, he served call of health served in the bush administration. in fact, both bush administration, he says laura and are deeply saddened by the death of colon power. he was a great public servant starting his time as a soldier during vietnam. many presidents relied on general pals, counsel and experience. he was national security adviser under president reagan, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff under my father and president clinton and secretary of state during my administration. he was such a favorite of presidents that he earned the presidential medal freedom twice. and he was highly respected at home and abroad. that is certainly true and most important. he was a family man and a friend, laura,

and i send our sincere condolences as they remember the life of a great man. and i think that that is what is most notable about colin powell is the fact that he was a friend of both democrats and republicans. something that you certainly don't see of a man of his stature any more in the united states. kimberly you've worked as a reporter in washington for many years. how was he regarded by the media as you point out that he sort of had that, that balance, that one quite like put in both camps but even yeah, yes, yes, that's right. he certainly was, he was a republican, but he was also loved by democrats, and it is notable that some of his policies would not be welcomed by democrats today. for example, he was not a fan of gays in the military and actively spoke out against this saying that this

with breton us national security and military readiness, of course, later on, generation later, that is no longer the view in that policy has changed, but certainly it is notable that even as he had strong opinions and differences with some of his political opponents, for example is well known that he didn't always get along with bill clinton, a democratic president. what is notable is the fact that overall he is remembered as a man that could work with both political parties. certainly he was revered by the media. you asked about that? and certainly for most americans, even if they felt that he may have made some mistakes throughout his career overall, they revere him as a man who was certainly very great public servant and a great american. kimberly, how could is our white house correspondent? thank you for now. with us still natasha lynn said, and lawrence called to talk through more of the life of colon powell. thank you for

staying with us and for listening to our other comments. natasha. let me come back to you. kimberly made the point about his i can call it bipartisanship, but he was there. he was a republican who democrats could, could deal with. and later on, as we heard in our report, he opened the support of the likes of joe biden. those type of people don't really exist anymore today. right, well i think the good thing about colin powell was he always released from americans perspective was telling the truth or what he believed to be the truth. and there is this perception that politicians don't tell the truth, they say whatever is you know, is going to benefit them in that moment. and collin powell, with someone who is really admirable for being a straight shooter and for clearly communicating things. and for just looking at the facts and to not get caught up in, you know, messy conflicts about politics. and the one of the testament to this is that he

actually apologized about the iraq conflict. we didn't hear an apology from, from busher, from rumsfeld or from dick cheney. but he was able to reflect upon it and say that this was a mistake. and i think that is something that's admirable and that we don't really have from politicians to day lawrence cope in washington. busy d c, why did he run for president? it seems like he could have done that or possibly on multiple occasions and might have been pretty close to it. actually he was thinking of running in 1996. ah. and his wife almost talked him out of a, she was afraid for his life that yes, the 1st african american you know, to, to get the nomination. he, you know, he, some people might come after him. and i remember, you know, reading about that it as book and talking to him about i think he would have been a great president. i think it wouldn't wonder if they had run and $96.00 or 2000. but that's my understanding. and that says a lot about this country that you know,

a man or person of such great stature, intellect and bravery, is of, you know, it doesn't want to run because of what happens to be his skin color. lawrence cope, former assistant secretary of defense and natasha at lynn stead u. s. foreign policy special. thank you both for your time and, and your thoughts today are on the life of colin powell ah to the rest of the days news now and flooding and landslides have killed at least 35 people in southern india's or the southern indian state of carola over the last week rescue operations by the army and navy are continuing to look for the many who are missing. thousands have been stranded in parts of the coastal state and authorities fear the number of dead could yet rise significantly. one of the worst affected areas is caught a young and low,

but brandon's been monitoring the situation there for us. what's happening here in and many other parts of cadillac with going on with people from the officer trying to clear this bloody group all debris into the trees which were up along with bands. this is really important because the rain is starting again and heavy rains expected for wednesday. that's really important to try to clear as much of the block away as possible to prevent further flooding and tire have been reduced to nothing but trouble. we've spoken to people who are devastated. good luck with everything. they had nowhere else to go. now we've got the concrete and metal read all over the weather that has been washed away homes that have not been reduced to rubble. every single position that people

own is covered in mud. so there is a lot of recovery work here to do. and the rescue teams are still searching for some people who are missing. they're also moving a lot of these people who lost their homes into more than a 100 relief camps that have been set up. and that's complicated because we go to court of the situation and it's been recording some of the highest numbers of cases . in fact, the highest number of cases and death in india for the month. so authorities the trying to keep the numbers low at shelters so that they can maintain social distance things we're trying to contain to bind to the situation as well as managing the flooding. earlier we spoke to renew chandra men on there's a founding member of indian national disaster authority. he actually planes, excessive mining and deforestation for the scale of the calamity that carolyn c actually in this problem and get

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gas to disperse protest isn't the capital cartoon i demanding prime minister della hum dog. step dumb, which has to say his economic policies have negatively affected living conditions there. that on transitional government, flash fuel subsidies and adopted and exchange system that hurt the value of the current here. but morgan is outside the presidential palace and helps him for the 3rd day, thousands continue to gather in front of the presidential palace here, invested in the capital harpoon. now protested, have been staging in demanding prime minister, the lamb, doug, dissolve, executive cabinets and form a new one that they say should be more preventative. of the people who participated in the december 2018 revolution, but eventually led to the, i'll think of former presidents all model machine. now, while there are a few 1000 here, 100, went up from this residential palace. just a few kilometers down to the office of the prime minister. actually held an emergency cabinet meeting to pressure him to dissolve that cabinet that he was

meeting with. the police stopped them from advancing to the office and as it tried to stand the office, they were met with here. but this shows how far the force i said, are willing to go to voice the demand for the government to be dissolved. and it's not the only protest that is currently happening in the country in the east, in the state. protests have been demonstrating for a month and now and have shut down the main floor as they demand the government council attract, known as the track in a peace agreement that was signing up to the last year. and they say that they don't want that because they don't want that piece agreement because of it's not being representative. now, the whole issue here is that issue of representation. people here who we spoke to that they're not for presented in the government. and that is why they're taken to the street. a little reminder, just of how suzanne has got to this point. you've got to go back to 2019. when omar bashir was ousted as president following nationwide protests again over the

deteriorating economy. later that same year, military and civilian groups entered into a power sharing agreements, they held talks with opposition parties about a transition to democracy. and then just this past september, there was a failed to attempt attributed to forces loyal to us here. now military leaders have been demanding reforms while civilian leaders accused them of aiming for a power grab with is from how to malcolm theater is a managing partner, insight strategy, partners, the policy, think tank. thank you for your time. just as i read all of that, i thought, well, the protest in 2019 which asked adama alba, she a, that was about the economy. and now it's still about the economy is changing. i mean there is certainly very similar grievances that even at to day at the ending but a very similar to 2019 you think the key thing to remember is that now that we are in this concept periods, that very different apps look what we had in 2019 and an autocratic military is the newest regimes. what we have now is a government in

a cabinet that has been trying to work against very difficult circumstances in order to enact reforms. recently the i m f came out with a very optimistic rejection, were very positive protection. all the nits in what's the address on that button as well as it's economic out looks like when growth, you know, significant growth. and in the next, when it gets to the next year, all of that has happened because of the full impact despite and the military and so over, but the economy. and as well as, as the political sort of challenges and bottles, it has to live in front of the civilians. so this and grips is, comes in them following this sort of attempt to clue, as you mentioned that last month. and so it seems a bit disingenuous for many people. it's got that the army would be vianza to answer as problems as these people are saying they're and what is very am at the notes, is that these people aren't as many as we saw it. 2019 and 28,

that much smaller group. and they are very much in motivated and in terms of partisan and rubble groups. so all these people who we just seen and happens report outside the parliament here, your the presidential palace asking for a 3rd later to sit down. i said earlier to our correspondent, the latest don't step down in a hurry. certainly it would be a last resort. so, i mean, does that just mean style night for the, for the near future? well, the s of c, which is the political umbrella behind the prime minister, is unlikely to accept anybody else said the several cheaply, because it will undermine their own legitimacy to do so. because right now the, the images is from the on, we begin to be changed. it's all. and so in terms of their own political cache, an unlikely twist, that after the premise himself, he has been able to bring in a lot of sports for, for the government. and for the transition, we'd see unequivocal over and minister was in the u. s. and germany as well as

other actors and even domestic. and he does enjoy iraq, significant support and backing asked who will be seen on the 21st in the counter protest attitude this weeks just got the protest. and i think very important to know also that we'll probably see a much more eclectic and much more inclusive as group of people protesting on the 21st than this much narrow lot more than watching people people from me. but at some of them are in are paid to be there are, some of them have been lost in and to become at a different departure. i think than some of the it's what the original protesters origin revenue, rivers. that's not to say it was a big grievance if any, legitimate, they're all very biting. i'm economic issues in the country right now, but the solution is locked. this colored her joining us from hotel today. we thank you very much for your time. thank you man. most cool leader

mang laya has that rejected demands made by se asia regional blog to comply with its plan for political transition. his comments the 1st since me and ma was excluded from that upcoming ass. young summit also laid the blame for violence in the country on force, as opposed to military rule. florence, though he has more in this report. recently, 2 days after the association of southeast asian nations or asean agreed to downgrade me on must present at a lead a summit later this month. coolly deb minute hang struck a defiant tone. now, maybe lady, after the statement was announced in april or more violence happened due to the provocations of terrorist groups. c, r p h and the national unity government and involvement of ethnic armed organizations. we still solving that no one cares to stop the violence and killings and are only demanding that we solve the issue. as yon should work on that asi and

has faced increasing pressure to take a tougher stand against myanmar. in a hastily convened virtual meeting last friday. foreign ministers in the region agree to invite a non political figure from myanmar. instead to the meeting. brunei which host this year's audio meetings, cited a lack of progress on a piece plan that myanmar had agreed to during an emergency summit in jakarta in april. but one analyst says, our sins decision to sideline man must military ruler, may not have much impact as and got some hard thinking to do about what next steps to, to take. but i do think that a lot of other countries around the world, the united nations and other leaders have to figure out a way to actively help as he and through this and to find other points. so i'm putting pressure on the state administration counsel unfortunately does not many points of pressure that you can do. i think the military's really hunkering down and becoming more defy not more cooperative.