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lot's his opinion in all those countries that functions us, but they are not under sensors. so what full spittle up, what's involved elena do, hadn't planned to spend 10 days in zimbabwe on a fact finding mission. she would then present her report to the un human rights council, nick, september, opposition leaders and civil society groups here said they hoped to meet her to their blames. the bob was economic problems on government, corruption and mismanagement. had a matessa algebra, her daddy ah, for a quick check of the top stories here. this, our colin powell is being remembered as a trail bathing soldier and diplomat after his death from cobra 19 complications. he was the 1st african american to become chairman of the joint chiefs and u. s. secretary of state. secretary powell was simply and completely a leader and he knew how to build a strong and united team. he treated people the way he expected them to treat each
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other and he made sure that they knew he would always have their back. the result was that his people would walk through walls for him. the u. s. state department watchdog will review the end of the biden administration's diplomatic operations and afghanistan. it'll take in the evacuation of the embassy in cobble and how the special immigrant visa program was handled and includes the processing of afghans as refugees and their resettlement in the united states. meanwhile, the u. s. envoy to afghanistan sal mayfield's ad to has stepped down. his resignation comes less than 2 months after america's withdrawal from afghanistan or yields our lead trumpet. ministration talks with the taliban that resulted in the agreement for u. s. troops to leave his deputy thomas west has been named to take over at least 43 people have been killed by attack. as a non jeris, a coach of state gunman stormed a market in garage jo on sunday and their assault carried on into monday morning.
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attacks by on gangs have been increasing in northern nigeria. the death toll after flood some landslides in the southern indian state of paradise. listen to at least $35.00 more rate expected this week. and the ethiopian air force is lawrence attacks against rebels and michaela. the regional capital of t dry a t v station controlled by the rebels said 3 people were killed. ethiopian state media reported that communications infrastructure was targeted. the raid fellows intensified fighting in 2 other ethiopian regions where the military is trying to push back against territorial gains by rebels. on the streets of porter prints are largely empty after unions and organizations call to strike to protest against haiti's dia, security situation. the strike follows the kidnapping of christian missionaries and their family members. u. s. a sent a team to haiti to help find and release the 12 adults and 5 children. those were the headlines and he's continues here now to sierra after inside story
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statement, that's a watch letter. a protest is incident demanding the resignation of the interim government divisions. a whitening within the military and civilian leaders. so could this affect the transition into democratic rule? and what's the way out of this crisis? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. today with me, pete, adobe sudan has been led by
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a government made up of both civilian and military leaders for more than 2 years now. but tension has risen between those in charge of steering the country towards elections under a 2019 power sharing deal. that involves the forces of freedom and change a civilian coalition which lead the protests against the long time leader o my albert shia. now a faction of back group is demanding a bigger representation in the transitional government. it supports has held antique government protest on saturday, while those who back the military have called on the generals to take control of the country. and thousands are holding a sitting in front of the presidential palace in cartoon. sedans, prime minister, has warned his nation is facing it's worst political crisis in recent years about them. i would not be exaggerating. if i said this political crisis is the worst and most dangerous crisis that threatens the transition and even threatens our entire country and warns of
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a terrible evil. this is due to the deep splits among civilians and among the military as well as between the civilians and the military. okay, we'll get to, i guess in just a moment. first, have a morgan in cartoon sets up our discussion. the system in front of the presidential policy than capital is now a, with processes demanding prime minister, the dissolved executive cabinet. and quote, one that they say should be more preventative. of those who parked in the revolution in december of 2018, now thousands gathered in front of the presidential public here in the capital hospital. but today, a few 100 of those processes that you can see went up to the prime minister's office as an emergency cabinet meeting was held to try to force him into pressure on him to dissolve that cabinet that he's meeting with. know those who call for the sit and, and these are the forces of freedom and chase volition, but that's a subset of the mainstream. listen, that led protests against president. how many of those new coalition,
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the new for freedom and change say that they're not presented and the government, despite the fact that they took part in the revolution. now the issue of her presentation is not just an issue here in the ease their processes who been blocking the board for more than a month, saying that they do a piece agreement that was signed in a paper last year. in the south africa, juba is not representative and demanding the government council and negotiations for a peace agreement that has something to do with the don is a country with many estimate that these many tribes and medical mission, many of them have taken part in december 28th and revolution, but many who say that they're not represented. and that in disco, transitional government, prime minister, abala, has described the current crisis as the more dangerous with friends and to the country and has called on all sides for dialogue. but so far that is yet to happen . human morgan harpoon for inside story. well tensions between the military and civilian sides of sedans, governments,
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they have increased since last month attempted coup. the military leaders have been demanding reforms to the forces of freedom and change coalition. they also called for the replacement of the cabinet support for the transitional government has dropped recent months after slashed fuel subsidies and then inflation sword. while those who back the civilian leadership have accused the armed forces of wanting to take back control. the ok, let's bring in our guests today. joining us from khartoum is mubarak ardal, chair of the political bureau for the democratic alliance for social justice. here in doha, we have while lead my debo president of the sudan policy for him. and also in cartoon, had george cooker a member of the get a finance, a non violent resistance movement. and also he's an award winning film. make a gentleman a warm welcome to you all my by idle in cartoon coming to 1st mister ham dock is describing what's going on in sudan as one of the worst crises they've had in years
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. but is he part of the problem? not part of the solution that me grids over guest with the lead on with her judge who would lead to those them all the vests and all of us for our. so the nice on the movement of saddam for the mcclintic transformation on for out of illusion. actually, the problem here in sedan is one of the big problems we are facing. we describe it as it is easy to be solved and easy to be addressed. the people can sit in together the parts to the conflicts, especially the, the people who have ducked the government of the revolution. whom adam, now on the screen,
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decking the government from the support of counsel to the concert of ministers onto the regions. they have to sit and discuss with others, took span the butts though some of the government to billing us for the government to expand about special socially and politically. in order to avoid the country from going into dark. narrow doug, and just let me pause you there and put that point to where lead my debo here in doha will easement ego if the country is to expand politically, if that's a solution, that means getting more people involved in a process. but at the moment, we understand the military is not united, the civilian administration is not united. so with that as a back story, how did you bring more people in to the process? i can understand the sense of restoration of the sudanese people with the forces of
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freedom and g at the in the at vision. because in a way they have been manipulating the assembly, the center calls it off. however, i can understand how dissolving the government can help resolve the situation. because if there is any fear, is there any at all or of a sovereign carson at the prime minister's office? ah, when we speak about expand it or being more inclusive presented it? i think we should think about ways by which we can make the process of negotiation with the forces of freedom and more democratic and more inclusive. that can be, that can be accused my getting engaged in deliberative sessions. dad
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put the highest strategic objective into science that the highest quality objective is ensuring that this transition is successful. because otherwise, if it's not successful, we are going to get into our going to get back into areas of the $3230.00. okay. my if, when, when, when we speak about funding, the government be more inclusive, we have to speak about the legislative body. we have to speak about the commissions . we have to speak about the security for the sake of reform. we cannot simply speak about the prime minister's office because all in all there are at least point is that we can all be included in the, in the counsel of the prime minister's office. but we can't, we can't get included in other forms of the government. ok had to do to cook in
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khartoum as well. have stood the people you speak for and the people you speak to. how unified are they? next, let's talk about the urgency of the moment. right now we're talking because there's something very urgent. there's protests, there's a sit in right now in the street that does not represent the illusion that does not look like anything that we were in there of illusion when the youth goes in to sit in and not welcome there. because it's a sit in, the very obvious, orchestrated by some rebel groups, some national security officers. it's a really weird looking fit in where there's tens, there's being delivered. so something that never looked like revolution and it's right in front of the palace, a place that we could never reach. so this is a city that definitely is okayed by military, by behind by committee. and this is our problem, the real problem. and what we, as
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a look, look at is that we see this as having overpower and to the military revolution was against 2 things against islamic dictatorship that was running. and the military was administered. and so now the kids and they're out of the picture. but the military was supposed to hand over the chairmanship to the civilians very soon . and now when this timely fitted with this time, the attack on the government, it's a wave for not handing over 2000000. so what we're out in the street is not to stop democratic and more people get into a more diverse people in the government and all that, it is actually to stop the military day from taking power. so when people are going out on the 21st, it is to stop people from giving overpowers to step mom. i've got to stop the minister economy and to stop by me. now we and all these people are people into government. i'm actually really disappointed and like i do, why considered
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a friend and a comrade in their illusion? and out of everybody, he very been very close to the street mean baffling to me how he thinks. although he is in government, even read a high position in government and how does he think that he needs to change? and this is the right time. i feel like this is not the right time for with what he's doing. and it's not the right way to attack and change government. government needs to be changed from inside it. he is inside by hand over the government to military rule and go back to dictatorship. isn't surprising. and it is exactly what we're fighting. fighting the military from going back. okay. no big deal there in costume as well. i'm assuming that you want or you need to have good relations with the military. but there are people looking in on your country saying the military will never relinquish what they've got at the moment because they're worried that at some point they will be held accountable. and let me just try to remind our
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college card dude, not we are coming from different background then. okay. all right, can i just pull it there for a 2nd? it's going to show program. could you just answer the question, please? that of listeners you don't need to describe them or to give them tickets. so that's a bit of an ocean artist. they are coming from different background that are coming from different area and they have on demand and we are in see the more classic era everyone will address his issues. so you don't need to say that one group, that part of the piece. deep deep here. but this agreement defined, they come here and part of the political movements. and now we are having a serious problem off of the clinical institution or the cottage issues related to the government. the, the military relations is this right? in the constitutional document. we don't need to give them more than what they have
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and it is not issue for an englishman. it is the issue of having that a light and to keep a lot of relation with them. according to the document that we assign, you know, saddam is in, in, in a region that fessing from stability problems, security and political instability. there is a c, okay, on that piece for this. and so, so then there is a problem in our western side of the country and on others we don't need to take the country in escalation and that in about the relation between the military and civilians until we face the problem of instability, then it would create issues of immigration and it will increase immigrants on the problem and go back to the shift the military. they have to work with the civilian in a partnership with religion until the end of the transitional trip until it inter
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now them chronic era. and this one would require us to go for serious measures of on 5 days. okay. okay. well, that just means lose hoenstein if i can and put those 2 well, eat my depot here and well, it's money, but the military is also making demands. what's the difference between the military making its own demands of the civilian part of the administration or indeed of the people of the country? what's the difference between that and the military basically staging a power grab but if you look at the situation now, they keep the military officers. they keep accusing the civilian government of failure, but the army itself as being tardy or 4 fifths of that video. they have, they have been always starting the find a piece of agreement which
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included some if significant that is causing a lot of thought. now mainly the situation, so they have, they had a fine or a face thing when i hit with all the constructing disability people on finalizing the relationship with they refuse to bring a. 1 to, to bring into accountability the companies that they have been administering for almost 3 decades. so what, what i see here is that the, if i agree with our daughter in the sense that given the situation of political and mini stability, i don't see a problem with a president continuing even to finish the whole period of the transition provided that they can give the cps by the files,
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or if that's the, there should be under the description of how to kinda benefit is place. so in the case, the deadlock here is because i don't think the adobe this program is wanting to finish the video, the transition a, b, and people should sit down and discuss the feasibility of the 2nd issue a we have and that's always in the, in the back of them, this is a busy office, it is the hot, the dead, the little i pad was. ah, douglas attempted against the testers in deceit, in the offices. the know that unless they are given immunity, i know i think that even at the end of the transition had been there when to give up power to the civilian. okay. oh hatchet. cooker also in cartoon,
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democracy is a living thing. seems to me from what you 3 gentlemen have been saying democracy is not alive and well, it seems to be frozen the world bank couple of days ago saying the economy is trending and the right direction. because inflation has come down to 388 percent, which is an astonishing percentage trigger. there are so many variables in the country and in the broader region. is there a chance here that the country is actually at a tipping point and it could yet head back to the bad old days of the 19 ninety's. ok, i don't, i don't think i don't think we're, we're back there. i feel right now we reached a point to that and where going back to war is up uphill battle. it's going to be really hard to go back to war. the rebel groups that you're talking about the, the minister of the economy is one of the people with our daughter who are trying
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to get the military rule. and we're not. so the fight is political. the fight moved away even today. like if you look at the system, a lot of them are rebel soldiers. so, so the idea, the way people are finding is different and i hope that we never go back to war. i right now, i don't think there's a threat to go back to war. people are not threatening to go back to war. really right now the talk is what gentlemen we just talking about. it's exactly the idea which would we go to become fully civilians entry and take over running the country economically. and we're not using simple we and methods and trying to solve our issues using fully methods. and that's what they're illusionary is want. and yes, the economy is really bad. the economy is going in directions that nobody doing administer debris, he'll know better than anybody else. because they are in the forefront of the economy. and there is, there is a lot of battle that needs to go to get there. and then we need to finish this traditional period and get to a period where people can fight over ruling the country using democratic message.
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and i feel like we could get there. and we need to get over this one big hurdle, which is the symbolic gesture of giving power to civilians. and that's why i think giving over the chairmanship is really important. symbolically because it just towns the military that now is the time where civilians rule the country and we as a military, our job is to defend not to ok, but i will also caught him. what if the people you speak to and the people you speak for are investing in the military? and it's the wrong side of the argument to invest in. because arguably, there are threats inside the country. that's why what's going on in sudan has blip on the radar. for the state department in washington, there are other threats outside the country. you need a competent and a capable military. the worry outside the region is that the sudanese military is
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not competent and it is not capable. let me say one thing we don't need to involve the issue of military as a british for always thought to, to avoid discussing issues related to the civilian civilian issues. military according to the constitutional document, the call of the hand of that never meant to them as he believed in july 2022. this is what i had it for one of the classified officer in the, in the, in the minister of justice. he told the flag that i, this is not, you shall know. the issue is reforming the rule in coalition, the f, a, c, it is a periodic. you know? because now the problem now that we have to f a c, the little bomb representing under this other group of se, even to hand over to the civilian. as the how do does ascii. we need to agree who to be handed over to the, the civilian and so that they will continue. moreover,
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the issue is not timing over the cloth. this is not, it will not appear here. it will appear into when we go for as soon as measures of them kind of is ation leg to conduct the sensor on to go for the water does threaten and i did what i just said and go for other issues related to the law of the parties and the thought is on go for the election, not to reform to phone de election commission and go follow up into re and participation of the people in the runs on transitional legislation. so that they will pass for these bids. and those are groups of volition that will be part of the descriptive concept to, to, to back, to pass the bills and then to, to ok. i'm going to the doctor because i just saw below you minutes the program. i do want to go back to my lead and had church, both in wanting to have one in cartoon, when he's coming to 1st,
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how much genuine desire do you detect on the part of everyone involved in this scenario? to get back on track. i think that they are on their own very good with i don't want to accuse any any more this into, to in intention. anybody intention in this scenario? i think ever see one with see to the need to understand that any favor quantity can follow. the zation of the society is more going to help us with capitalizing the sudan and moving towards a more chrissy. it's going to give me a freak, this kind of a situation. but we have to be in mind that some pressure ought to be exempted to make that civilian government more accountable to this with people. if
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you think of that liberty economy, policies adopted by handbooks government, i mean, it just went exactly. i gave you a call in for the the, the world bank. and i am, if adopted these people and economy policies, which with me for interrupting you. the last point to how trying to cook in khartoum. hutch george, in 30 seconds, are you optimistic that the civilian part of the administration will react in the right way to the pressure that's being directed at it just now? it just seems to be ignoring what's being said to it. ok so, so really i'm coming from the street are coming out on the 21st of october and we are pushing and what we're really pushing for is 14000000 volts. right now i think it's way more important that civilian world than any of the rest of other things i
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think right now is actually on the right track for a change. and the most important thing about them craddick that transition is to get to democracy. the rest of the follow, gentlemen, thank you so much. thank you to i guess they will me about it all while lead my depo and george cooker and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time via the website, out to c o dot com. and for further discussion to go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is at ha and site story from me, pete, adobe, and the team here. and thanks for watching. we will see you very soon. for the moment. i news news
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