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strikes and the trouble to grow our region as it's new offensive enters a 2nd week. a big breakthrough in columbia war against drugs, but some say the arrest of a top drug nor will not make much of a difference. plus a british robot that was detained by egyptian officials. the espionage is wowing the art lovers with how works. ah, so let's start with that breaking news out of sudan where the military has arrested several civilian ministers and officials. protest leaders are calling on people to take to the streets and resist what they say could be a possible military coup. well, it's been weeks of rising tension between military and civilian faction, sharing power in a fragile transitional government. it's supposed to lead sedan to elections after a long time, leda, omar bashir, was pushed from power in 2019 when he but morgan joins was on the phone from the sudanese capital. he bought. so 1st there were,

these reports of cabinets has been arrested. there's also one report that the prime minister della ham dock is also being detained at his house. what more can you tell us about what's happening on the ground now? what are you hearing? well, the right now, what happened is that telecommunication access has been clicked. it was very. 1 to get many information about what is becoming a very quickly developing story. but what we do know for sure is that the ministry of industry hasn't been arrested. he has without a post just a few minutes there said that they are police for the military purpose outside the . busy coming to arrest him, we also know that the others hoping to come back to civilian members of the body that effectively the presidency of them has been arrested. now let's go back to the council and behold, transitional make up up to down. you have joint military civilian, a government that is shared between the military because the freedom in change

coalition at the coalition that goes against president dominant sheet before signing on. that power sharing agreement with the military. and they have 5 members of the sovereignty council that be nominated to 5 military members of the company that she had no share power along with other group members in that suffering the effects of the, the presidency down the box for it. it's worth noting that only the book person is always the counselor who has to have been arrested by the military. don't come in light of tension between the 2 sides. there's been more than a week military, ethical in front of the presidential ballot, demanding that prime minister of the law is all the cabinets because a fraction of freedom and chase has said that the current government and the current really quickly should not include everyone who took part in the resolution, but then you have the military that has been demanding that before change makes

them response. following in the template, they said that because it should have been busy cooperate, overpower and not focusing on the development of the nation. of the deep down transition and there is that people happy demanding. it comes like a lot of pension that we're just wising over the past few days between the military and the facility. and we also have confirmed that the minister of information has been erected along with either of the primary and again, this all come at the time when you do the military and civilian factions of the transition, government very, very high. he. but as we're talking to you, we're seeing live pictures and screens of people taking the, taking to the streets. there, there are fire as being set by these protest, as, as you say, this is the fast moving, developing story with the rest of the cabinet ministers and possibly the prime ministers are we then likely to see more moves by the military in the coming out in terms of taking power back from the civilian leaders. 7 now the head of the

province is going to let them put them behind. the commander of the military has stated that he's going to see the transition obstacle until elections are held in january 2024. but a lot of political parties happy to do. i'm trying to grab more power of trying to hold on to, to the president. so to talk with the counselor, should it be the chair of that public company again, which is the president that it's supposed to be taking between civilians and the military. what the ministry supposed to hold for 21 month, people having it typically for the 18 months now, are we going to see more and more on the military, the coming up you hours? again, this is a possible thing development period. what the next step would be, but just a few days back. if we go back a few days on the 25th of october to market the anniversary, the end of what their revolution incidentally found in the podium up to the $3.00 to $1.00 the military that they are particularly. and that the, the standard, the government has had some,

some shortcut coming out there to be met the government of power in august 2019. but based on that, this is the way we're about to transition into democracy. and again, it came as something was happening in front of the presidential palace with thousands of money that but military dissolved from me to probably have to happen. and so whether we moved, there will be more develop the as the day progresses. but most of the political parties just before the internet was restricted, put out, call 20, put for the post 2000000000 and put the work with a 321, the military that should they tried to grab our members or harmful members of the transitional government. there will be consequences. he but just a final thought you just before you go, i mean look this, this transition government was supposed to lead to elections in sedan as you've been saying. but what does this latest move by the military now? means any upcoming vote,

the guidelines that the transitional government has the constitutional declaration and any power grab an attempted coup or a cou, regarded by the political parties and supplies. if you buy the military as well. so should the military tried to take power and the leadership of the country, that means that they did the constitutional decoration, which is basically the guiding principle of the transition period. and that means every single step that comes into the transition is very much the military to decide how to take it. so are we going to see military members being caught in a cabinet minister that's not clear? again, the constitutional declaration was that the prime minister should be the one to nominate executive members. now now we're seeing some of them have been arrested. so we're not sure yet if we're going to see the military actually without up with their own members. again, we have to remember that we hear anything from somebody, not just today, darren, but the question is the presidential pop in front of the presidential palace. we

get to hear from the miniature, with regard to the latest development. we have moved with the army surrounded the army headquarters with reinforcements blocking the route that we saw on the headquarters. and we know that the central cuz international present security has been heightened. but again, the arm when we put those questions to procedures. now that we're looking at it, obviously this is something that again with current development, it could be right in many various ways. but for now, we don't know what comes next until the article talk to me because the competition declaration to the guidance office for a period has been regarded. alright, to have been morgan live in the sydney's capital card to him. he but no doubt will come back to you in the coming out throughout the morning. he but thank you. well, it helps to know how sedan got to this point. well, in december 2018,

thousands of people in the northeastern region about barbara protested against ty, unemployment, poverty, and corruption. within days those protests spread to other cities, including the capital cartoon. in april 2019, the military move removed, president bashir from office. after nearly 30 years in power, but 4 months later and after accusations of excessive violence against protest as the military agreed to form a civilian lead transitional government, the new cabinet took office in september on the prime minister dela hummed up as part of a 3 year power sharing agreement, let's bring in hollywood care. she's a managing partner at inside strategy partners, a public affairs, and based in seattle. and they specialize in government relations to join us on the phone now from saddam's capital cost to them. so this is the fast moving story. what are you hearing now about these arrests by the military? possibly including the prime minister della ham dock. so what's, what's happening in the capital at the moment told?

well, it's very difficult to ascertain the specifics because there is a total shut down, not just of the internet, but also signal that it's very difficult to get even estimate text messages across . obviously that has deliberately seen this before in after the massacre. june of 2019, which was a sort of a very low points, particularly for the military which has based massive accusations of violence, particularly on that day. and so we're sort of seeing a repeat of that. almost actually, we're seeing a lot of things out, you know, the 21st of october, a few days ago we saw mass protests coming out against military leadership. effectively handing the civilian government and renewed mandate. we saw the same thing in 2019, on the 30th of june. and then also that though we did see in 2019 a negotiated settlement between the civilians and military in the constitutional

document. and the beginning of the ham dog min office were unlikely to see something like that. this time. it does seem in many ways, it is a part of a playbook that is being sort of follow the very similar script. but it's not really. so i'm not really more in line with what happens in egypt, i would say, and that's not surprising because we did hear that the head of the southern council general. but han was in egypt just. you may in fact just be on his way. we recently return from there, and so we are seeing sort of very similar things payouts, but with very notable differences. and as he said, you know, it's still very quickly developing. so we yet to see where this could end up as we're talking to you live here in algebra, we're seeing like pictures coming to us here of the fires in the streets. we've seen some protest has come out. we don't know yet. if the pro military, you a pro democracy protest, a fellow we may not be calling this

a coo just yet. but does this have the makings of a full military takeover? do you think? i mean, the very worrying arrests of civilian ministers does indicate that this is a clue, as we know that very many ways to stage one is to replace the prime minister. one is to evolve the cabinet, which the prime minister and the f s. c. have been very, very sort of strong and telling the ministry that they will not to do in line with what pro democracy protesters have called for. although you know, this is the sort of dissolving of all forms or parts of government. it's regency council, as well as the civilian cabinet in order to have snapped elections very much about egypt. poster evolution developments. and so was sort of waiting to see what this will look like. and of course,

that also part of the worry that there are several model that this could emulate what we have had into done particularly and minutes history is very bloodless. now it's hopefully that is something that is also if there is to be a cruise to be stage, we still follow that sort of bloodless model. but we're not really sure the current information of our groups at the moment that has been a history of very recent violence, especially towards democracy groups. there is no guarantee that we will see a bloodless coo this time. and of course, the, the issue is that because there's so many different scenarios of what it could look like in the end, it ends up being a and a front to the constitutional declaration of 2019, as well as an affront to the public, which was very much demonstrated just mid day to go on the 21st. the suddenly professionals association 100 is calling on the sudanese people to take to the streets to resist what they're calling any kind of military coup. i'll be like

you're going to see these pro democracy supportive back out on the streets. everything suggests that that that is true. yes. mostly because even though there was some fragmentation between pro democracy groups in recent months, mostly related to the comic situation or the sort of slow what they see the slow pace of reform. the slow pace of dividends, of the transitional period was we saw very, very reasons either they were re galvanized sort of, again under the umbrella of resisting military takeover. again, very similar to what you saw share and again. so this is lametre counsel at the time in 2019 so and even though we had the very disparate groups, what the 21st of october showed was one of several things. one that the civilian forces could still command the will of the streets even though they had lost some sights. um some, some level of support throughout the month. but also that this is an impulse. 9

which is the key political, active keeping that leads could, despite that squabbling indifference defending and complete competing interests could come together and call for mass political action. and of course, nothing govern either the civilian forces as, as, as i'm kind of encouraging by the minute you will some sort of show force by the military. and so i do expect that we will see some sort of combined conservative efforts from 7 incomes to as this is exactly the scenario that people rejected. on the 21st of october, i need to place out, as we believe it might in a complete sort of emergency council that is mostly led by ministry needed the snap collection. there will be very much a resistance to that people wanted to see through the transitional period. people understood that despite the difficulty this was a very difficult project to dismantle what the ncp both what she has isn't as policy built. and they did want to give it the right amount of time for that to

happen. and so we will, we will probably see something, a lot of suit civic civilian action coming out hollywood. it's worth reminding our international viewers as we see these live pictures now of a small band of protest if we don't know if they're pro military or pro democracy purchases on the streets. but there are, there are some small fires that we're looking at live as we're talking to you. hollywood as you point out, relations have sour dramatically between the military and civilians. in this very fragile power sharing government, how fragile is the government? and again, for our international viewers who might not understand the mechanics of the politics in sudan, why is there such tension between the generals and the civilian leaders? well, i mean, to begin with, you know, it, this, the situation sort of always been tense. it's sort of a continuum of political tenseness, if you will,

and competing interests. it's not like, you know, there was a period where they got along famously and now suddenly we've seen this sort of return to tensions. the issue was before i think that there was the sides paid at this idea of partnership, which was going to be very difficult anyway from, from, from the off, from the, from august 2019. they played this idea of partnership a lot quite well or to some degree is reasonably well. what's happening since i would say around june when the prime minister called for this new initiative, which in some ways did put pressure on the ministry to reform, to hand over parts of the economy that it owned. to ensure that all the deadlock around political procedures are appointing members to parliament, which is a very key sticking point to the head of the pointing the head of the judiciary to the sort of keep political positions and mechanisms with thompson period that will

make it a success once apartment is sort of put some pressure, which is very much, was very much possible by the street. right? to show this, this sort of pressure on the military military then started to sort of push back in different ways. one way was last week's crew. but even then rhetorically, we saw a lot more sort of resistance and hesitant from key military active. and so the relationship began to get more tense, i would say from around june of this year, i want to see now the combination of that for us, the, the sort of attempted to which in many ways could be seen as a rehearsal for later cruise or testing of the waters to see what the response would be from the public in the, the international community. and so what we're seeing now is also unsurprising. right? that we have reached something of a stage where the glove, the fault of office, even the rhetoric of the civilian just seem so very recently has been that actually

this whole partnership issue has been something of a foss. this is something by the way, that a lot of the public already knew. but i think these are the sort of theater partnership had begun to break down. now, why is that important? important? because one give the military sort of no reason to keep up the theatre partnership, but it also provided civilians an opportunity to say, this is what we've been facing. right. we've all is sort of pretense of, of, of a partnership was actually drawing a lot of public and a lot of public blame for the phase. and that actually is as far as the content rest on the military, interfering with the political processes of the transition. and so not the gloves are off. of course it begs the question, to what extent can they now have some level of working together or just completely sort of diamond dustin and will they not be new political dispensation?

the civilians would likely not agree to this will probably not benefit them. now the question then becomes will the military one go ahead? now as i was going to say 100, a just wanted to quickly talk about both sides. you know, you're talking about the public blame and the public anger. let's just talk about the sides of that equation because we've seen pro democracy supporters out on the streets. part of the freedom for change. we've seen pro military supporters out on the streets. they been calling for the dissolution of the government. let me just ask you quickly, how much support is there then for the government, for the military. rather, i think it's, it's very important to point out that the, the groups calling for the military government, which is the group that came out on the 16th of october. i think the staging is sitting around the palace is much, much,

much smaller number than the pro democracy forces that came out a week later on the 21st. i think it's very important to point that out because the minute you may be using this much smaller group of projects on the 16th to as a vehicle to push through sort of military government. but that is not all judging by the she and i'm, but what the, one of the sydney people and this is justin cartoon. it's, it's had been had bad rated around the country to 45 cities before. but just for me on that all across the country, as i say in many ways sort of effectively we knew the mandate of the civilian government despite the issue of the public had with the civilians before i think the interesting thing at the moment is that this new what, whatever it sort of will develop into has come off off to weeks where we could meet with a key international back of the civilian lead democratic transition, particularly envoys from the u. k. and very recently the u. s. and so, you know,

any kind of infection on civilian leadership also sort of flies in the face of the international support. okay. that has been given to sit down recently, put a limit, it's got a final thought from you. okay, so we've spoken about the pro military part of that dynamic. what could this mean and for the pro democracy protest movement you've been calling for the completion of the transition to food civilian room? i mean though, that should be despondency and appointments. i think from supporters of president of the, you know, it's a 1000000000 transition and elections and in 2023 potentially the beginning of 10 to 24. the question is now what, what sort of steps could they take to impress upon the military? to what extent they are again, it's not because we don't know yet what the minutes will do because the merger has been actually very, very quiet. since since around the 16th of october or so, suddenly it has been very quiet since the pro democracy mass. but democracy

purchased on the 21st, i think they were very surprised by this, by how many people came out against the rule on the 21st. but what we have seen that they have barricaded that army headquarters area, which is a central cartoon mission of course traffic very difficult and they have bark. is that very heavily since the $25.00? so we kinda suspected that something was that something was developing, but now it appears that they have a cited to sort of act on, on, on that plan. what the problem there is, of course, is that now with an intimate shut down, it will be again, quite difficult to, to mobilize the pro democracy groups. but as you, so we're 29 teams. there are ways around that. and people can still mobilize and congregate and hold sort of mass protests. so we'll probably see something of that in the next few days or a 100 head. thank you very much indeed for your time. hold it. in fact, that thanks expanding to our international do as much of the complications of student needs politics. thank you. we'll talk to you again throughout the day.

let's bring in your highness walden, murray, and he's a research at george mason university, and he's an expert on the horn of africa. he joins us live from washington, d. c. u. so we've heard these reports of student needs, cabinet ministers. there's also a government media advisor and the prime minister, bella. hum, doc, wonder port of him being detained under house arrest. just talk us through you. how does the significance of what seems to be playing out in the student these capital right now? well, sudan has been through this for a while now. and the coalition government that was formed was supposed to transition sudan into what i see as you know. but it's been very tried higher from the very beginning. and it has gotten worse now to the point where, you know, the, i bet i'm doc is a report that the under house arrest and this,

this doesn't bud well for sudan. it already is a lot of instability in the eastern part of the country in particular. and the economic situation has gone from bad to worse. so, so this is a lot more development and we may not be calling this a to just yet you has but, but does this have the makings of a full military take? i but do you think it's entirely possible, but they will be confronted with the same problems that i've been i'm doc is dealing with and there's no easy solution any time soon. and, and also we have to understand that within the military, i'm not on, but she still has support. and also there is a egyptian packer, the neighboring countries, like also ada draft comes into play here,

especially there is suspicion that the in the eastern part of the country might be one because of the ethiopian conflict. so it's a, it's a complicated situation. and we've seen the sudanese professional association calling for the sydney's people to take to the streets, to resist any kind of what they are calling military coups. are we like them to see the pro democracy support us back out onto the streets. do you think? yes, yes. sir, and these are very active in the countries politics and they have shown that in the start that begins down by sure. and they are not easily intimidated. and there is a book for the civilian government as well. and so down has a long history of military rule, and there is a real estate of ation for civilian government and democracy again. so

it's not like the sudanese military is going to have it easy. so how do you think international players would be looking in? what we're seeing unfold now on our tv screens that, that the, these arrests of, of the members of the civilian or the transitional council and also the prime minister. how do you think international players like the u. k? like the u. s. a. looking at what we're seeing, well alarmed, i would imagine because of the lamb dark is a technocrat and has worked in international institutions before. he became prime minister. he is well liked and a very competent and very fat man by all accounts. so his, you know, if there is really a quote against him that would not be seen favorably by the western countries in particular. you had, as we've heard,

some of our analysts talk about how the transitional government was something of a force that there was this pretense that both sides, the military are part of the transitional government, the civilian part pretending to get on. but actually they didn't just talk us through how fragile this transitional government actually was or is. 6 it very prime, there was districts from the very beginning, you know, and it was a compromise solution and it was sort of painted as a temporary transitional situation until things stabilize. but obviously what we're witnessing is that they couldn't even continue the potential. and now who the military it appears is a striking e a. so let's talk about the pro democracy movement. johan is, what could this mean for them? i mean they've been calling for the completion of the transition to full civilian

rule. what does this now mean for the pro democracy move? well, it means that things are not going. they plan and, and they hooked up. the pro democratic movement will continue and it doesn't bud well for stability or die. it's a very you, it is on ethnic issues, economic issues that are more in ola and this is not, this is not a good situation at all. and then when you consider the fact that in the instability in ethiopia, and the situation in the neighboring countries that it's an on. so i mean, there's an, a border water going on. okay? it's not very well advertised between ethiopia and, and sudan. and so it may also make that situation worse because the military had, had late notice i more into intensifying the war. and so i've been hum

dock with a voice of moderation in this whole thing just and you and it's just a final just a final quick thought you were hearing now that the many transposed number of bridges around the sydney's capitol. it's worth reminding our viewers that this, this transition government was supposed to lead to elections. what does that mean now, for the, for the possibility of this upcoming election in 2024? where obviously, you know, the military take so that it's doubtful to me that they would be open to an election. it may lead military dictatorship. but on so i can also see how they can pull it off because the food nice people are ready to be what they want democracy. and so as to it's not going to be that situation at all. alright. your highness waldman research at george mason university. i'm

also an expert in the one of africa. thank you very much indeed for your thoughts.