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when it comes to ethiopia. let me make the point that we are gravely concert by the escalating violence, by the expansion of the fighting that we seen in northern ethiopia and in regions throughout the country. ah, we are concerned with a growing risk to the unity and the integrity of the ethiopian states. talk survived the 25th dana ran nuclear deal are scheduled to resume at the end of this month in direct negotiations between all sing at trees in vienna stoled last chill after abraham ray c, one, the iranian that presidential election. iran is marking the 42nd anniversary of the u. s embassy takeover into iran. in 1979. crowds have gathered in the capital where the head of iran's revolutionary god is delivering his speech. iranian students, stone, the u. s. embassy in 1979 spiking a hostage crisis that lasted more than a year. the u. k. government says dozens of nations have agreed to end the use of coal at the cop $26.00 climate summit in glasgow. signatories include poland,
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top of the compelling journalism we keeping our distance because it's actually quite dangerous. ambulances continued to arrive at the closure and inspired program making. i still don't feel like i actually know enough about living under fascism with like how much money did you make for your role in delivering? i made al jazeera english proud recipient of the new york festivals broadcaster of the year award for the year running. if he appears year long war marked by extreme brutality from all sides involved, a un probe finds evidence that may amount to crimes against humanity. as a nation, it is a new state of emergency. what actions will be needed to bring an end to this conflict . rather than further escalate the situation, this is inside story. ah
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. hello, welcome to the program. i'm adrian finnegan, a new turn it, ethiopia is year long to gray. conflict is threatening to tear the country apart. rebels from the northern region say that they've teamed up with a small faction within the ethnic group, the aroma, and a threatening to advance towards the capital, addis ababa, the central government warned that the country is facing a grave danger to its existence and unity. it's aroused for 6 months state of emergency, and urged people to take up arms and defend their neighborhoods to grind faces and pressing on with their campaign. since they took control of the region in july, the government has launched a ground and air offensive and a bit to push them back. as we see here on the map, we're about to show you they're making their way from to gray, into the neighboring regions of how to and
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a far and down the highway running south to about 2 grand fighters say that they took control of these towns. this week including culture, it sits on a supply line, linking the landlord, nation to the c port of jew booty. but in all of this, the u. n. has found evidence that all sides in ethiopia to guy conflict have violated international human rights. there are some indications that those actions may amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity. the un human rights chief said that the year long conflict has been marked by extreme brutality. we'll get to, i guess, in just a few moments, but 1st a report from al jazeera is priyanka go to these mod graves in my car, draw in northern if you appeal on earth, what the un says could be war. crimes committed in the t grey conflict, a joint if your piano, you and human rights investigation says rebels from t gray kills more than 200 ethnic. i'm horace here in november last year. the
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conflict has no expanded, will be on t grey. its neighboring horror and of our regions and its been devastating for civilians. the un report found in the year long war editor and soldiers who backed, if you'd be a federal army, as well as if you had been guffman soldiers. anti grand rebels have committed widespread crimes including rape, torture, and killings of civilians. all parties to the t great conflict have committed violations of international human rights, humanitarian and rest you law. some of these may amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity. if you will be us, government has largely welcome to report while expressing its serious reservations about aspects of the findings its promise to set up a task force to investigate the allegations. while rebels antigua i said, the report is flawed. citing the involvement of the tube in human rights commission, but on the ground, the conflict if intensifying, tiguan, rebel c,
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b have captured to northern pounds and a major highway leading to the capital, addis ababa prime minister abi ama has urged if your pens to unite and fight against the rebels and has warned that attempts to make if you appeal like libya and syria will not succeed. abi amad was reelected in a landslide victory and june is facing mounting pressure to end the war from his he'll be as largest humanitarian, a donor. the united states, as the war approaches this one year anniversary, united states and others cannot continue business as usual relations with the governor of ethiopia. the extraordinary partnership we have enjoy is not sustainable. while the military conflict continues to expand, threatening the stability and the unity of one of africa's most influential countries. the body and ministration has suspended if you appear from
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a crucial crate agreement with the u. s. router over a significant decision by the united states. it is important to understand that it hasn't happened yet. in other words, as of july, there's a january 1 day at which it may become effective if there is no movement towards he's in ethiopia. and if that happens, i think he is likely to lose about a quarter of a $1000000000.00. and that could mean hardship with your pinch. the un investigation only looked into reports of abuse until late june, when the rebels regained much of t gray. it does not include any attacks or civilian abuse since then back of the inside story. ah, all right, let's begin our guests for today's discussion from addis ababa were joined by samuel get a true. he's an independent journalist in nairobi as william davis and senior
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ethiopia analyst at the international crisis group and from amsterdam were joined by give a kiss, dos, garris lassie, who manages a website, the documents, the warranty guy, and tell us the to ryan story. welcome to you or william. let's start with you. just how dangerous is the current situation for a peer? does it pose a threat to its existence sovereignty? and unity as the justice minister said was definitely thing a serious threat to the federal government. and so dorothy here, and that is primarily because of the continued advances by the great forces since july primary through east and i'm har. region, as you've heard recently, they've taken control of composure and dessie cities. this reflects just a later in a series of battlefield victories, which obviously weakens the federal military considerably. often the federal
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military was pushed out and take great and june. this now puts to take great forces in a position potentially had east to try and control that your booty. kartel is main trade route. they could then exec significant economic pressure on top of the leadership there as well as potentially rerouting a supplies directly to take, right. they could also try and post self was toward that is out of itself. and then they have already established some sorts of operational connection with the remote liberation on the other movement, which is determined ready to for a prime minister, be ahmed and his government from power and response. we've seen doubling down of physicians and from prime minister abbey from the horror governments as well. all out mobilize ation, all citizens being called tom to try and prevent this advance of it's a great forces, but that is not a new tactic. we have seen this type of mobilization over the last few months and
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it has not been successful. there is no reason that that, or this is very sweeping, state of emergency that's being put in place, which may well result in the mass arrest, off to gray and citizens who are increasingly seen as collaborators with it's a great forces. but there was no reason to think that that would actually turn the tide on the battlefield. so really, it is an incredibly perilous situation for the federal government. and i think, unless the federal leadership is able and willing to make some necessary can confession to the, to grant demands, particularly on the issue of the blockade, which is preventing humanitarian relief take right now, we are likely to see a continued advance and all the potential be stabilization and for the government and the country at large that comes with that. give kids those woods to grand forces really march on the capital, do they have the military strength and the support to take at is what are the aims
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ultimately? well, they have stated their aims very clearly. i believe that the main aim is to break the blockade and they have been adjusting the demand is from the time they took it and the government has refused it. and if they said we, we're not going to just perish in block it, we're going to try whatever it takes to break the blockade. and i think now i believe they have their, the ability to march on ideas, especially after the physical linking up with the or a more liberation army. and we have to remember that, you know, the military is really broken done. i mean, they have brought the threat, the strongest division is to, to,
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to try and they read estimated there and now in dizzy and convert jaw. they have really, they thought that was the final offensive and they brought every force that they couldn't, they could muster to, to the region is and they have been decimated. yeah. so really, i don't think, i don't think there is much military resistance. of course, like the government is doing now they can fit, you know, the, the billions the asking them to really die in thousands and stop the advance. but in terms of really conventional military engagement, i don't think the government have any options anymore. so i mean, what are we to make of the callers call to arms by the government to the people of the capital? is it just scam on green? what does the 6 months state of emergency mean for people, how their lives change under it? well, if you're going to begin are used to this endless state of emergency that has been
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implemented even before this prime minister came to our so we know how to live and exist with endless excess of emergency. but what makes this different is the fact that the country is really, really hurting. i was in a far, recently in a banner and some are and or i was also and i'm higher regions and i was in to grade previously before, you know, we were allowed to go and report from there, or what we're hearing. what amnesty international human rights watch weren't really expressing was the fact that this crimes were happening by all actors. we've seen it. it's like a uniform like allegations we've been hearing and, and i'm hire what you know, you can meet a young woman is she can say, you know, she was abused or sexually violated. and you would, you, her voice will be
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a code when you go to our fire or 2, right? that's what scary about what's happening in ethiopia. it's not just the foreign investors that are fleeing from ethiopia, which were important to the nation at one point, or the u. s. embassy, saying all its citizens should leave ethiopia because of the ongoing conflicts in the country. everything that's happening in ethiopia at sub. and what's really, really overwhelming is where this country is heading at the moment. when you have what we can after, assume here that people watching and on listening to the podcast, won't know the intricacies of ethiopian politics. wants it go to take to diffuse the situation. what are the t p life's demands? and are they unreasonable? why is the government not willing to implement the demands? well, clearly the demands unreasonable from the federal government's perspective. but what are they done on a william? but about what we have, we have the blockade issue which the to grey leadership,
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they went and did aid access the restoration of services to great banking, telecommunications and electricity. and then because of the way the war was conducted because of the intervention are considered an eagle by leadership, they also want to remove future security threats to pick right now. really, that means on a decimating meteor to military which is being part of its offensive results. are very thorny territorial issue, as the federal government withdrew after these defeats in june, that less than har region and control of western and 70 great. and they claim that as historic are aligned, it's been administered by 2 great. during the federation federal period since 995, now they have been pushed out in southern take re, but they remain in control of western right. and they take, great leadership is absolutely set on reclaiming that land from. i'm horror. they're also issues over the ability to grade to securely run
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a referendum potentially on, on a, maybe on independence as a nation state, which is a longer issue. so these are the types of demand. but i think because of the ongoing conflict, because the federal government has classified the leadership as a terrorist organization, therefore they consider that the, the, the regions being run by terrorists, they're not willing to deliver aid without these restrictions. they believe that may be diverted. perhaps they're just trying to subjugate and weaken the region, and they've also not be willing to provide these services again because they consider the regional government illegal. and then obviously, you know, the great moves against the federal military since continue to try and weaken. it is hardly something that the powers that be in this out of a going to go along with. so these are the basic types of disagreements that exist now that are driving the conflict. and i think it's on that you might of terry an aspect if the federal government can lay prioritize that,
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which would also be seen as a concession. it's a great forces. and perhaps we could break this sort of dead law, or at least that sort of escalates re dynamics. we have now was it to great forces continuing to push forward, increased the pressure on the federal government. but as i said in my 1st on so, so far there is no sign of that. we just have the federal government and its allies doubling down in terms of the all out mobilize ation. and that is only likely really to incentivize, it's a great commanders to push forward and even faster than they plan. give to kids to us. we talked about how dangerous the situation is for ethiopia. is it already too late for negotiations? is there anyone with the authority and respect to bring the 2 sides together or does the need to be some sort of military victory for one sided or the other before that could be talking? well, i think it's already too late. and i, because 1st we have to really understand what happened into right. it is
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a donor side that have been planned for a long time. so really i feel thought that when people compared to what happens in our far or in, in i'm hot os, this is not the same case. this is a general site and block. it is part of the genocide. in fact, the a, they have pulled every wind up the planet to wipe people not to go out. they have to, they cannot involving to the horn of africa. and this block, it is part of that they are actually now if they, if you, if we only prolonged the war, then they would just perish in this block. so, we have to understand that context. so the war taking the water id is now important because does not have planned and executed this genocide must be brought to justice. so there is no, no wish. now the preface to late,
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we paid too much a 2nd negotiation. mean, there is no way that these people will be brought to just the thought. these are very important, the less active that the international community has failed to deliver its responsibility. it can't even force him monitoring corridor for the ground. people which we speak are dying. you know, every day from starvation, so there's no option now i came down to bring the gym. by the way, we have to remember that these are games is an allegro electric metric you with an elegy with party and with that you can met election. so it has no leg a right to room and it has, it is a criminal click that has, that has to be brought to get this. so these are important things to consider. and i think now is already too late. in fact, the degree and general, you're not going to say now what is all, but there's no point in negotiations which really badly is idea what they
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are trying to do. i think the client sent me what's, what's your view on that is, is it too late? i don't, i don't the accusations of genocide, the prime minister says the un report dispelled what he said before such as ations of genocide against his government. but, but the un says the therapy in government trying to limit the investigation, which was which of course was carried out jointly with the view of his human rights commission. the victims of what the un says is extreme brutality for all sides. likely ever to see justice as you allow me to reply to your guest as the election neath yoga, as legitimate as he claims it wasn't perfect per se. i think the election and to guy had the same kind of standard where no position was elected was one by 98 plus percent of the population that was claimed they took ben was 94 percent. so
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the 2 elections can only be debated. but if you criticizing one, you have to criticize both. but going back to perhaps a negotiation settlement, it's never too late. i mean, people are obviously dying. we talk about genocide, integrity dom horace are talking about genocide that may have happened to them in their own regions are far is are saying the same thing. there has to be some kind of understand that too many people are dying. and if yoga, whether you call it genocide or i've no genocide, the people on the ground just don't, i mean, did their focus is to survive. people are still being killed. where the difference between one to the other is in terms of numbers. ok. but again, i, i like, i've always enjoyed traveling outside of isodora. i've seen, i was able to speak to lots of victims and, and they, they
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a called the same kind of allegations. and this kind of report is a down payment of the kind of report we need. i don't know if, if you will be out of the u. n, or a donors will or will find enough resources to investigate. but all kinds of allegations, whether you call it there were genocide, it comes from all sites. william, is it too late for negotiations? what do you make of the u. s. findings? what i think in terms is and negotiations. the issue is, as i said, it's as described really. i mean, you know, you just don't think you nation of the grand positions. i'm going to cost us. so, you know, unless there are other types of really significant concessions from the federal government, which, which might serve the poor to, to great advance or confessions in terms of the, particularly the humanitarian situation. the restoration services. maybe the beginnings of a political amnesty for granted. and remote need is unless we get that,
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then i think that's a great 4th is going to push forward. and indeed some of the commanders and leaders have said that there is no negotiating to be done with prime minister abbey now. so it's certainly very late in the day, and i don't think that identity without those concessions, we're going to move to negotiations. but it's certainly the right thing to call for . because there's all sorts of reasons to be concerned about what could result from a great push combined with the remote liberation army to, to decide what we should look at the state of our power region. i mean, i'm our region would basically be in total rebellion to any new interim government that was formed of the 2 great leadership in the remote liberation army. and with regards to genocide, i mean we will read the report. now we've seen the media reports. we know that severe abuses of increment commissioned by the era and forces by federal forces, by the i'm hora, the report talks about 600000 to grand leaving west and to great. it also talked
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about abuses by to gray and militia as well. i think, you know, clearly there's been very severe restrictions placed upon the region in terms of those services trade an a that seems to be a deliberate policy by the federal government i in my organization and not in a position called genocide that is up to the human rights investigators and up to the international lawyers. deborah kissed us. what's it going to take to end the suffering of people in the field? i like to say a little bit on the report. they call it the joint event, gets in by the human rights commission and you in, in my commission, i think from it to grand perspective, i find it any thought and it is because you don't allow that very perpetrator of
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the crimes to be part of the investigation, nowhere in the waters would you do something like this. this is what they have done . so it's really wrong on methodology. it faded, the bare minimum, kevin casters as i understand it. the only way that the un could get in there to investigate was to have it as a joint investigation. otherwise they wouldn't have been allowed to, to go in. well, i mean, that's, i think that's the valid point. but just to me, to, for that point, you don't to make and report that as you please whitewash is the crimes of the, the gym and also really, really how does their victims again, we feel as the gram really being hurt again by the investigation. okay. well, it hasn't really the main. my faculty are right. i think there's very, i'm sorry,
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are you sure? i'm sorry to call you so we're, we're almost out of time and i just want to, i want to get fabulous a reply to what you just heard that you know, going back to compromise, ethiopia, us has been highlighted by the spokesperson of the, for in, at the state, the state department in washington dc. it's an important addition it need. we're little leadership to end what's been happening in this country cancelling a trade agreement with the u. s. is going to wipe out hundreds of thousands of jobs . ah, people are dying. there has to be an international leadership to and what's happening in yoga to many people are just being killed and everybody is cheer leading from one side and just focusing on this ethnic warfare we've been seeing the fuel before . many, many years. we are out of time. many thanks to you for being with us gentlemen. samuel got a chew, william davison, and get with care source gibber. selassie. i'm thank you for watching. don't forget,
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