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is politics and it's on the wing has a regional dimension which can't be resolved by the authorities here. already cabinet has been deadlocked for weeks after a dispute about the judge investigating last year's blast at big port. and now without support from gulf nations, it will be hard to secure, much needed international aid to stop its economic collapse, set up with her elk visitor, beirut. ah, as as al jazeera these year, top stories she danced, military leader has agreed with the us on the need to speed up the formation of any government. general de fatter albert hands office, released a statement on to speaking with the u. s. secretary of state antony blinkin, he has ordered the release of for civilian cabinet ministers detained in last month . miniature take over. thousands have been protesting in cartoon, calling for
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a democratic transition. him look and has more details on that release from cotton for ministers of the civilian political details who've been arrested on the eve of b, military takeover have been released there. the minister of communication, the minister of trade, the minister of youth and sports, and the minister of a community of information. now those for ministers are just some of the people who have been arrested the minister of industry, who was also at one of those who was, who was taken on the morning of the military who has not been released along with the spokesperson over now dissolved sovereignty. council mohammed and fricky as well as the minister in the office of the prime minister, or who's, who's also the cabinet cabinets minister. he's also yet to be released and their whereabouts are yet to be revealed. the you on security council will meet on friday to discuss the financing in ethiopia. fighters from the northern to grime region have taken towns on a highway to the capitol, prompting the government to declare
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a state of emergency international cools are growing for an immediate cease fire. you, a special envoy for the region is another sub about to push for de escalation. china has reported its highest single day rise in corona vars cases in 3 months. $93.00 people were infected in the last 24 hours. the outbreak began in mid october and has now spread to over half of china's provinces. beijing has imposed strict rules where people traveling in and out of the country. in the u. s. house democrats plan to vote friday on a pair of long delayed spending bills. as urgency to pass the bills off, the democrats off at a state level election defeat in virginia and a near defeat in new jersey. the roughly 3 trillion dollar economic plan is vital to jo biden's domestic agenda, but its face drawn out talks on capital hill g to disagree agreements between progressive and moderate democrats. okay,
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that's the headlines. the stream is next. ah 25 years ago, a 2 part documentary series march 25th anniversary a telling the story of the child now it became recognized global brand with ah, i have for me. ok, welcome to the stream to day we up and you news and analysis from see dad can the minute she could be reversed. let me bring in him morgan. she's are out. is there a correspond? he was on that story hippa, what is the headline?
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well it's been fast moving back to this headline apparently is the release of for some of the political prisoners who are arrested on the morning of the takeover. so again, very fast moving developments here in sedan, but the latest we have is the release of the political prisoners. although there are many who still remain under arrests. we have a lot to talk about in this show, and i bring, you know, just keep up, ha, ha, lose. and also miss anne, nice to have both of you ladies with us, a hulu. first of all, please introduce yourself. tell out what is who you are, what you do, what have you been watching the news in the past hour? so you would have seen how to do the analyses right on al jazeera. nice, go ahead. welcome to the stream. thank you, family. hi everyone. i'm for more than i'm the managing partner of the think secretary often called insight strategy that we sent up to support the transition. which is having an interesting, if i'm at the moment that more and that's it. i want to hear more about that in
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just a moment. was an welcome to the stream. introduce yourself to our international audience . thank you very much. amazon, anita. i'm a political activist, a co founder of the innovation science and technology thinktank for people center development and a fellow that the lead institute from a delay policy. as you can see, we have a very informed in line up if you are on youtube right now. the comment section is it's here, but your comments, your questions about c, dan, about sedans, coo and i will do my best to bring those comments and questions into the show. we are going to start with a little bit of recap from the last couple of days. and to that, i'm going to look to my colleagues at start here. we're going to take us back, breaking news out of sit down with the military has arrested several civilian ministers and official thousands of people have taken to the streets to protest against monday's military coup. this guy, general abdel fata over home has taken control and kicked out the prime minister. people are really angry. they're back on the streets like they were 2 years ago.
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that's when they brought down a president. they blamed for 30 years of huffy museum . i'm going to start with a tweet that's come in about this show about this half hour. we want peace in sudan . this comment comes from m d. rackaboto has san your thoughts right now respond to that tweet. we want peaceful and peaceful on justice and we want freedom is watson. these protesters have been repeating a long prior to december evolution in 2018 and they continue to their interest in peace. have been shown quit clearly and promptly in the response of the public to, to the cool and how early a, within the early hours of the cool people to cover the streets and started building barricades and announced their strike. some of the strikes that were pre announced
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almost. 8 a month before the cool because the goal was anticipated to anyone in sudan and also to anyone who who would observe objectively the situation is with and the partnership was falling apart. and it was clear that the path was not taken to a place of peace and justice and freedom that people have long a struggled far. it was being called the partnership of blood since he was actually compromised with killers and the killers have shown there. there are 2 faces, again, they've killed in the streets of sudan at least 18. confirm this in the last 11 days since the cool though, sorry, the confirmed ones. and keep in mind that most of the cities of the quiet now has no access to internet to be able to access the internet and express yourself as it's denise is a fixed ext, extraordinary measures and a good percentage of risks on oneself as well. i am but many detained, including the workers where it went and on strike,
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the workers in the white nile factory have been detained. the staff of the university have been detained. all of that is what is happening right now in sudan . it is clear that this is denise public, that the path to peace can only be done through a full revolution. and that's why them the that's what the protesters are, are saying in the streets right now, right? that we will not will no longer and accept half revolution, we will longer accept the compromise. that's also the resistance committees are saying in their demand that they're calling for a full i want to share the conversation with your co panelists. i want you to leave them something to say, let me bring them in here. allude. thank you miss ama, come right back to you. hello. what is the state of seed on it one week into a military coup? in the last few moments, we're getting breaking news of political prisoners being released. what else is happening? well, the interesting thing to note that we've had almost an immediate shift empower off
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to the queue. you know, the army sort of came in very hot and heavy. they arrested a whole group of when additions that activists, but immediately we saw it was, it was and said that response from the street. and so that has sort of, you know, tilted this power back on his axis almost immediately. and since then, see, you know, civil disobedience isn't now the largest protest of the globally in recent years with 4000000 people coming out on the 30th. we have seen the basis of this military to crumble also seen the regional allies are real sports that the crew have also come out publicly now to condemn the who are the condemned or what is coal for resolution to the crisis. and so we're seeing this sort of shift away from our concentrated military hands, which obviously it has been the largest part of the past 2 years shift again interested in what that looks like and how to take that forward and how to reach
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the billing goal. that's the challenge that we're facing. now. if i want to understand what it's like for people on the street in sudan, if the ones that you've spoken to, then we start, hey, on my laptop, this is net blocks. net blocks is a global internet monitor. and this is a fascinating, this graph that they put together. this is last week just before october, the 25th. this is the usage on line and then sunny the debt, the huge debt. there was a spike when the mobile internet was restored last tuesday and then here we are right here with virtually no connectivity. that is an issue. what else is happening? heather? while there are so many things happening, when you look at it in terms of economy, there has been more goods, let's say, for available in the market. and it's obvious that in the military is trying to show that, you know, in the one week that we took over,
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or in the 11 days that we've taken over, we've been able to provide you with goods. we've been able to reduce the price of fuel after the lifting of subsidies. but then i think one thing i'm impressed about is how people are thinking normally. i think you would see people quite happy that there's more commodities in the market and that there's been a drop in prices. but people are asking questions that i don't know. and i was quite surprised what i wouldn't say surprise were quite impressed to hear, to hear people say things like it goes on to show how far the previous government, the government that has been out by the military is not really to blame for the economic crisis. you know, when you have the military taking over an interest, a few days, the fuel price has dropped. we have flour in the market, we have more bread, we have the ports open. it. people are now saying that they believe that the military actually had a role in the comic crisis that was created during the the, the times of the transitional government. one thing we also hearing is, you know,
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the, the lack of the freedom that has been taken away, people can express themselves freely. so during the 1st days of the call, you know, when we try to interview people to get their sense of what's going on, the 1st thing you'd hear is, i'm not going to get in trouble with the military. and if it comes up, it takes me back to the days, you know, where we time people protesting on the street. and you can try to find a few people like about 1520, maybe even 50. and i would always ask myself, what difference does it make when you have about 20 people protesting for a call cause. but then since the military takeover and i understand that it's a freedom of expression and i don't think we'll be seeing that much. people have already been expressing fears about their views. don't want to openly express their, their views on the, on the, on the development. some of them just say, you know, i just want to go on living i but there's also the people who talk to us about how angry they are. because of the take over. yeah, sir,
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sorry about it's continue also seeing the people actually have sort of traversed this point where they understand exactly what the dangers are, but they're still pushing for their demands to be heard. so pretty for the original demands of the 2018 revolution with the knowledge of what has happened since. and i think that, you know, this regime that we had before 2018 and to some extent it's the same people that we see in this current qu, leadership are, you know, they are, they have done some frightful things. and yet you still see this result from the streets or i think you're right there is this awareness now, you know what it means, what the duties as a citizen off and that have never really been cultivated before. this awareness like that's coming through and it's, it's really kind of causing that shit the minute you might miss, you strengthen the truth, propensity for violence doesn't really scare people in the same way anymore. and i think that's a little chip which i'm really well ad here. if i may,
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is that while awareness is, is actually good to have, but i will put what i would put as actually the 1st reason why people are capable of facing the military corps right now is the organization, the level of organization that we're seeing with the resistance committees, the neighborhood resistance committees that are actually right now cover in the basic needs of the neighborhoods that are, are doing the civil disobedience covering their basic needs. and also some of them are working on an electron and select and leaders i looked in to look in members of the national parliaments. so they, so they are ready to take power and think over the governance of their areas, this level of organization that we're also seeing just hours before the millions march. on the 3rd of october, that kennedy neighborhood was a says committee put out its 7 demands that included no negotiation and no compromise with the military and no going back to military rule. within hours,
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it was adopted by more and more neighborhood committees. and we saw that before the morning of the 30th he was already at least for them, and that i parted capital, it was the demands of the capital and it was the demands. we also heard in the streets when we marched on october 3rd to so this level of organization and keeping in mind that this is being done and there's lots of internet shut down radio stations or even being scrambled calls. we lost calls for the 24 hours of the 13th of october during the march, which with people and more risk. because people who could not basically warrant there the other resistance committees and the other protesters that the security forces are coming. and due to that, we actually lost due at least 2 martyrs on the day of the 13th of october. so this level of organization is, was allowing, this is denise revolution to continue and i guess the put on resistance committees and their big role on this, or let me suggest a, another potential reason why the resistance movement is doing well. and that may
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well be international reaction and international condemnation to the military, cuz it may well be. i'm gonna ask lou about that. but 1st i want to go to a senior analyst at the international crisis group. this is harness horner. as soon as he finishes speaking, hello, please re at telephone. here again, the withholding of aide by the united states by the world bank $700000000.00 and $2000000000.00 respectively. is really much more aimed at avoiding allowing the military to accrue any credit for any success that they may have in alleviating the needs of sydney's. that aid was given in the 1st place with the strategic idea that it would improve the civilian lead government's ability to show students that it could respond adequately to the needs of students. i mean, i think john, this is right, the has been a lot of national pressure sort of been brought to back on the crew leaders. but i would say that it's incumbent on international leaders for support in democracy to
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put pressure on those that don't. right. that's where that conversation is most useful. and we've seen these and see that the united states in the united kingdom have come up with the statement. the quad statement would saturday be each of the biggest men. suppose that the military and they have put pressure on them sort of bring it back. now that is sort of status very satisfying some international relations and, and being able to make things happen. but i'm not sure to what extent the street is going to say, yeah, that's fine for us. that will happen to go back to the 24th of october and said there are lots of holes coming out from different cultures and societies saying that this is not what we want to want. more than that one full circle. wanted a p, a that is not included in any of these condemnations of the coup. i would just like to add to that, that the, the modest amounts of so called aide that was sent to sudan. they were mostly used and totally spent on the bureaucracy of argon international 8 organizations that we
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so and that we know very small amounts actually reached the people. so yes, maybe with hall than these funds will have an impact on the availability of hard currency for the, for the military and for their military council, the military co council. but in reality, for the people, these amounts were not just only modest, but also they come, came coupled and conditioned with economic policies that eliminated the government that were used as the narrative for the cool by the, by the military council. and it was not in any way that i see it or that i believe the public. this is nice, public sees it sees it helpful to this is denise people. in reality, even the statement that we heard from you came back, there are the special invoice, the special invoice, the u. s. special invoice of the horn of africa actually called the killing of 18 mortars the injuries of hundreds and hundreds detained, a restraint and exercise of restraint by the army, while he called that the rightful demands of the sudanese people are unrealistic to
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expect of fully civilian government this is unacceptable at the way i see that international communities intervening has been counter revolutionary. how, what i will say regarding the statements we're saying right now is that the push by the people on the ground have forced those parties to utilize the language of their evolution. to try to pass the compromise. however, eventually, whenever they actually try to put a complex compromise on the table, i strongly believe it will be rejected by the public seeing the reaction in the streets right now. let's talk about the military, hipaa. how you do this. i'm going to start on my laptop with abdur rahim, who told us just before we started this program, just military, go back to the border, forget political issues and leave them to political parties that so there also i want to bring in to greet who spoke just a little bit earlier on video. the problem i think that actually goes to the
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situation was leadership, not meeting room, whether it was the civilians or the military without actually both side. seeing this issue. because of the most important thing right now is to get out of this military coup the military, how much in good faith they started off this entire process with this my li crackdown that met 2 deaths, fatalities, injuries and mass censorship of an entire country. so we can safely say that we don't trust the military, we don't trust them to least to democracy. and any issues that we have with the government, the legitimate government can be solved. my mean, other than the military, him a, we actually approach the military. i know you have done as well too, so yeah, call me there has and they refused to be on the program. they wouldn't answer any of us yet. we've spoken. yeah. go ahead. we
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will spoken to some of the military commanders and as well as the pro military parties that that's a bit, i guess i'm trying to wrap my head around, but yeah, we've spoken to the military commanders in the military parties and i think there is a lot of anger and there is a lot of resentment towards the army. and then you see there's also, i think the, the military does have concerns about how about the status of taken and how far it will bring them when it comes to accountability. how far down it will bring them. so i think one thing that you get a sense of is that, you know, we, we're the ones in charge. we should be responsible for the country stability. and that political parties have not been very united and they've not been very i think they stepped up to they gave when it came to the issue of leadership. so that, that, that's one thing that you hear repeatedly from them. but the issue of accountability as well, you know, when you talk about when we ask them about the protesters killed about those who
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are detained in the sense that this is, this is our leadership were the one thing controls were the ones who brought this transition, just because, you know, when protest went and set up that sitting in front of the army headquarters and on the 6th of april 2019 we the one who are said bashir. therefore anything else that comes after is our responsibility. so this central, we're the power, we're the country, we're the ones with the guns, but we're also the ones with the force and the mice. and we're the ones with the authority because we're the ones who took the step. there's that sense that you keep getting from them. and then when you look at the st, just that every single time you hear that narrative from the military, especially in their statements, and you tend to the 3, the anger seems to keep growing. you know? so i know if you did not over the rubbish here until we protested against tuition. and so we voice our anger and this is something here from all protest. i knew we were the ones who did the steps were the ones who turn the wheels of emotion. and
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you guys are basically just a stephan, this whole and your role ultimately is to preserve the security of the nation. yes, the best of the border is not internally and not targeting, as you know, processors were simply expressing their, their right to, to have a civilian leadership team to live in democracy to have freedom be think just as the most of the revolution. so, so again it's, it's very hard to get a sense of how far you can do with the military do away with the military. they seem to be very adamant that we're going from a transitional government. we're going to have a sovereignty council. we will be in charge and we want to form a civilian transitional government led by prime minister up the door for anybody else who we choose. but they don't want to be removed from the picture. that's something completely opposite of what we hear from people in the street and complete. it seems to be in line with what we hear from the international mediate, of appeared earlier from moving include about the role of international mediators. but the thing to get a sense that we can take the military out of the picture,
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and that's something you hear from the military as well. we're not getting out of this equation. if you guys want to call this crisis, you're going to have to find a way for with us in it and preferably having the upper hand. if not equal hands with the civilian and with the processors on the street. i'd like to add someone to what he said is that the military, in reality was not a step in the path of the revolution. it was, it was a compromise. it was a compromise that was pushed on the people and actually by mediators similar to the ones are water quiet. now, basically the, the military was rewarded for a massacre by a power sharing agreement. that's what happened earlier. and people into then are clear that they will not repeat that it is, it's very disappointing. you expected that the international mediators will try to force on the compromise on this is denise people. and it's also very expected and disappointing that international media will keep ignoring the actual leader of the
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revolutionary movement and the streets, which is the resistance committees. you can watch international media and mainstream media for days of us with that and not know that there is such a thing as a resistance moves on that does that have a difference to what is happening on the ground if the resistance is happening on the ground groceries level does it matter what international media site, what matters over here is that we will also, we are, if we had access to the internet, we will be sharing that ourselves, express into ourselves interior with our allies, and even sharing the experience with other evolutionary nations that are a working on evolution right now and against dictatorships, and that's what, that's how evolution works, right? that's it. you can not have a resolution in one country, doesn't work that way. there will always be counter evolutionary regimes and garments around you that's trying to bring you back into under a dictatorship. if we had the access to express ourselves, it wouldn't have mattered. but the fact that we do not have the access and international media that some of them say that they align with the values of this,
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of the nice people international organizations as well, who have the capacity and the resources to carry our voices and amplifiers. while we are under internet shut down, they refused to do that. they carry a narrative that makes it easier for the military to jump in with a compromise than carry the actual narrative of grassroots movement and why it will not be possible to push such a compromise. under the nice people. hello, i'm just looking at the title for today's discussion. can the military coup in sudan be reversed? and then we start again with some breaking news, which, which may be like, oh, may be. what do you think? i mean, the point isn't, can it, the point is, should it? yes, it can be reversed. if an officer is a fight on all sides, on the civilian to compromise on the military, to sort of be incentivized to realize that that is one of the best option out of
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the question is should it be robust? you know that the previous sets up as we know to do to this q, the school was not exactly successful. it's only a perfect port on, on the military's sort of advancement in terms of wanting to take over the reasons why the ministry stays to school. have not suddenly disappeared and will not to pay it was under revert back to the $20.00, the 24th of october. they did quote the questions and you know, and wasn't, it's right. there is a lack of imagination from mediated both domestic and international, about breaking the sort of standard policy response to coups which is always say, you still need to have some burden. all some, you know, contingent on the very presence you're trying to, to unseat, you know, there's not much room within that model of completely getting rid of, for example, in the military. and so we need to have a rethink that community mediate, is where we and i don't believe that they have started that attention, but it and often,
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but i had of any sort of 19 engagement i lose thanking for meaningful, engaging with a string today. roseann and hippa as well, let me show you where they are online. login i can on my laptop i loose on twitter. and these i as well. what a trivia, thanks to watching. the next time november on al jazeera, 5 years after the his story, he feel between fog rebels and the colombian government algebra examined white tensions and violence of rising once again. emma, your award winning poor flies investigates the untold stories across the us. millions in calgary. don boat in parliamentary elections under a new constitution, and more than a year after the last hold figured political crisis immersive personal short
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