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monday and he visited the ot us off. the guy reported a brush on front malicious lead leadership headquarters. and there he seems to have gotten some headway he's also visiting today the i'm a harder on the upper regions where the conflict are spilled over to in the past months. and he is saying that both sides understand that the differences between them are political and made political resolution. a court incident has ordered that internet services to be restored wasn't 2 weeks after most were blocked, the national consumer protection, kansas foods, telecommunication companies. over the shot down the directors of the companies face, the rest of the court decision isn't implemented yet great was imposed to prevent protests on the campaign of civil disobedience after the military takeover. on

october 25th, thousands of migrants and belarus remained gathered at the border with poland in an escalating crisis. the polish governments is called a crisis meeting and deployed sizes of troops to the region in schools part of its border with elvis. it accuses many of encouraging migrants to attempt to cross the border retaliation again, sanctions from symphony, and has signed off on documents to return 26 artifacts. you might have my chrome that's been present, patrice low in paris on tuesday. the pieces, some of africa will significant, all works well looted by french colonial troops in the 1900 century and taken to europe. but we ship back to been in the coming days. and those are the headlines. the stay with us. the stream is coming up next november, we'll see vulgarians vote in a 3rd parliamentary election. this year,

public outcry, the widespread corruption brought down former prime minister boy cowboy resolved, but finding a replacement his proof problematic. will it be 3rd time lucky in the bulgarian election, special coverage on al jazeera. hi michelle kerry filling in for for me. okay. today on the strain a look at the escalating conflict. any opiates and if you are in ethiopia, we want to know how have you been impacted by the conflict in te gray and beyond. and you can add your comments. your questions for today's panel right there in our chat, live on youtube. ah, this mossy c o v a marked one year of civil war. last week, ethiopians government declared a state of emergency and called on citizens to defend the capital city. at this

conflict which started in the northern region of t great has spread to the neighboring states of a far, and i'm hora, rebel to gray and fighters are now moving south towards the capital and have so far claimed control over 2 cities north of audi. saba, now with this conflict as a worsening humanitarian crisis, and northern ethiopia talk some numbers. now, world health organization says 5 point. 2000000 people are in dire need of humanitarian aid. to point 1000000 people are displaced, 400000 people are close to famine and access to these affected areas that remains limited. so what is next to meet the opiate war? joining us today from the hague in the netherlands, a damn k, a baby, a commentator and adviser on ethiopian affairs in oakland, california, isiah lamar in the global society of tea, gray scholars and professionals. and in that ruby canyon william davis and a senior analyst on ethiopia for the international crisis group. thank you all for joining me. we appreciate it

a size. i want to start with you. these reports that the t p a left maybe marching toward audio ob, about do you believe that to be true? is that what they're doing are much. thank you very much for having me. well, so 1st i think before i begin, there are certain things to be clear at things. so i disagree with connie, the wrong narrative to tailor the political party and these resistance frego. so different political parties, the different people, religion, age and everything bryan is resisting. so i think this is a popular struggle, i think, attributing the struggle to one political party is that wrong. and i think the international media and committee community is taking that wrong. and i think to correct that 1st. so hold on one sec. so what you're saying is that there are other people that are not too gray and that are lined up with what this with this cause is that what you're saying? exactly. so 1st the struggle is

a popular struggling right now just to kill if you feel is one of the leading parties, but other political works to great are also struggling. so this is the struggle by the grand people it's, it's a struggle in both like all groups, right? so i would call it the defense force or it popular struggle. so that's what i want to correct. and the 2nd, the struggle is not just a great struggle alone if you're in general, are struggling. so that, that, that the, to my forces are united with other marginalized groups and they're marching towards the capital end up. correct. an mcnair jump in here so that those 2 things i think is essay as his right that it's not a t p. i left a lawn that we know that the t p l, therefore that the leading a government at the time, the year t p l f, army attacked national defense forces, the tpr levied, the hurt of the resistance out. that is,

that is happening at the moment. so i think it's not inaccurate or to call it typically. and secondly, i think to also say that it's a nation wide resistance is, is an extreme exaggeration. it's principally, the conflict is principally laid out by, by the to glenn or purposely brush in front. of course, there were already a smaller armed groups, insurgents here and there, but there have been, there are and, and, but at the moment that the principal and a lot last of the conflict remains in the northern part of the country. so as i say as well as i was just a moment our i like, well, yes, well yes, i could just come in and put this back to to adam. i think what adam says is reasonable. so the, you know, the teacher was the ruling party. right. and it was a very, very dominant fooling party and then took right regional government fell into civil war with the federal government after a constitutional electoral dispute. but it,

when people talk about the great defense forces, or this being a popular struggle and being something beyond the well, one of the things that it takes, there's potentially away from classifying the entirety of the grand people who participate or support their struggle as terrorist. because adam as other well known, inmate, the federal parliament, classified the tc left is a terrorist organization. so this insistence on describing what is, as we understand it quite a popular struggle, a large proportion of gray and society seems mobilize this struggle, the insistence on classifying them. it means that you're classifying all of them a terrorist. and you know that the kind of, i'm not sure accurate, so neither right show let will finish. and then yesterday she came,

i will just just to say within, within my round up of to grands in the capital elsewhere. lots of suspicions. that's great. and for supporting the rebellion and for being collaborated. and that's also partly due to this categorization of essentially, anyone who's involved in this popular struggle as for that but be very interesting to adams adams response on that or her wagon. oh, let's efforts. as i, as i went 2nd, i'm gonna let a demo respond just because will specifically set something he said, and then i promise, i'll come back. he went down to 2 things. first, there are 2 grants that are actually part of the coalition that is trying to fight the government. and in fact, as you may know, that the minister of defense, a current minister of defense, the, to grant and the inter my administration that was administering to grow at the time the federal government was, was in control of the region, was also composed of to grounds including political parties that were excluded by

the tier left. in fact, one of the things that the t p a lifted wondering when it's returned when it's controlled mccully bug or was attack or some of these to graham's. as we're working as part of the entire the modem institution as, as treaters. so yes, not we. all right, a struggle. so okay. okay, so holla and angel. i okay, how did louis greg well equalize? well, it is the moment, but besides, god ok, thank you very much. so i think we have to correct the narrative 1st, the wrong narrative would lead to wrong conclusion. so 1st, but to tell if it's a political party struggle, it's popular struggle. i think we are agreeing on that rebel. there's also room reference to struggle as a rebel. this is totally wrong. the resume in a center. we try to great terrorize millions of the guy and wrote the rebel against the will conspired with foreign countries. every threat and investor and, and ultimately dismantle the customer orders. and i think i believe the word rebel perfect. we fits with the, the region the,

the region so west to agree on that 1st. why wind up here? i think that's the most important question for the monitor. i look at the moment my mind, the man who won't notice. right. person who did the ph. d. conflict resolution turned out to be an enterprise war and invested in conflict. but i think this is embarrassing and very appalling, but he's just a trend horse of the group that aspires, unitary and single, broken narrative. so ivy is just the person who is a sort of course of the ok. so let's, let's all take. i'll take a breath. ok. i you brought up the prime minister. are actually in a play something that be met and said specifically because we're talking about the t p less than how they're spoken about. i do want to know what you think about the way he he has, he describes them. so let's go ahead and listen to that. you can call this pit, which is the very deep will be where the enemy will be buried. knox, where

e. c o p a disintegrates. we will bury this enemy with our blood and bones, and make the glory of ethiopia high up again. you took the money a matter of which okay. he's also refer to the t p l f. as as a cancer is rats as weeds. and will you touched on the fact that there have been reports of ethnic to grands being rounded up in addis ababa? what do you make of of the prime minister, a former nobel peace prize winner using this type of language? what is the real life impact of that? so i think it a point that i was that i was making before. sure. and then we and then we can answer my question as well. i mean, so that sort of the point that i certainly wasn't saying that all 2 grand parts and they struggle. but i was saying that by classifying everyone involved in the struggle as you're classifying everyone as a terrorist. now department of the,

you know, when they use the language, they say things like the u. s. and officials, they called isis can. so this type of thing, right? but the kind of weeds time, so they say it's referring to a political party to get well, the same point remains. you've just classified anyone who is involved in this struggle, that the grand automated and then you're using this type of dehumanizing language against that political party, but you've classified the terrorist organization. so i think that huge the problematic ramifications that the grand population at large and of course that's exactly what we're seeing in terms of the right to, to grade and civilian life. and i'm horace. it is in this, i was including the state repression that with being on the what is a very sweet things facebook version, the emergency. there's just been an act that now as the fight get closer to it's likely that this sort of repression and this sort of more violence against a grand civilian intensifies. so it's just an incredibly wiring situation. partly because about the humanizing language combined with this very broad classification

of who is or who is in part of the team. so i want to place on things quickly. i can come in for a quick. so the 1st one is i think will is right. and you are right is what the kind of language that has been coming, particularly from the federal authorities, but also a times from the to grant tortoise has been egregious. it's not, it's not fitting about people that actually control political authority in terms of the emergency. we know that the country is in a, in a state of walks estate, a far as a default to emergency. and what is surprising is the fact that there has not been a formal sense of emergency in the country for the last couple of months. because the country has been at war and it's also right that the state of emergency has been abused. i think it has been used to profile particularly to grow and particularly in united settlement. but at the same time,

we cannot deny that the tpr live has supporters across the country. it's a very coordinated, a well structured machinery and part of the struggle to contain them must include, must include dictations, that may be necessary, but that cannot be used as a justification. i just find detention of thousands of the grants in a capital and every part of the country are being members of the feel if it's a bridges and very i think this is very calling. the only thing i see is most of the people in the capital city, thousands of people are detained in different concentra. she can't. so i think just find that is very, very, very sorry i have been, you're just i that i don't guys, i went to glinda and i think i look guys on hold on. we are in a moment, a moment as in a moment. there are some ramona again for a moment here. let me show you and should be, should be it should be taken response. ok a moment and we do have

a lot of people that want to get into this discussion as well in particular. and there's a ph, east ph. d student in writer and by the name at to chi, i gave her michelle and he has some thoughts about what might come and should and the ticket life reached the capital. let's listen to that. i think the capital city would fall to the allied forces inevitably. and that is because the food all you have been fundamentally destroyed in to drive on the reason that the grounds haven't already taken over the city is because we have extremely care for a region in how they are drawn to make sure that civilians aren't affected or infrastructure destroyed, and in terms of what must be done to and the con, you know, the conflict, i think the international community to my under fun, val, this is a way that is using starvation other women of war on these now jailing progress in their thousands, a retaliation,

and it must be told to solve that on the forces that are trying to bring about it lost in solution if you go on must be supported before it is too late. okay, so he referenced, and somebody and accusations that have been made against really both sides, but against the government as well. and there was a recent joint investigation by the united nations human rights office and the youth and human rights committee that said both sides in this conflict. both sides may have committed violations that may amount to war crimes. and the prime minister said that he has serious reservations about the report, but he accepts it. and he said that this exonerates ethiopia from accusations of genocide. and will i want to come to you? i realize it's very difficult to know what's going on on the ground. you know, there's a blockade there. there's not a lot of talk of journalist being there, but this report that accuses both sides of being in the conflict is,

is that fair to say that both sides are equally responsible for the horrible things that are happening is that does that do a disservice to the people that are being affected to say that everybody's equally responsible. well, it's not, it's not both sides. it's part is the complex. so the primary belligerents but easy in federal, military to gray regional forces. the regional forces and era trans national military. now, yes, you know, there was a fairly conscious effort, i think, in the, in the report to list incidental atrocities committed by all those sites. but if you look at the comments, so for example, michelle especially, you know, the year and human rights commissioner. and she pointed to the fact that eric try and he didn't. so just not the regional forces were responsible for the majority of the crimes, but it is of course, important to to focus on the crimes committed by all sides. and i think what the

report did is solidify some of the findings that we know about in terms of massacres and this type of thing. and you know, that have been very widely reported massacres by the era trained military action. for example, there was a video masika by ethiopia and federal soldiers. we had incidents of massacres, witnessed by humanitarian workers. there was also evidence of atrocities in west integrated the report mentioned that 600000. the grands were forcibly space from that. and then we also come in a okay, maybe i think i should explain this 1st. there are court principles of investigation when you come back independent investigation, their principal 1st that the victims have to have trust and confidence in the process. there is no threat. martha grants abroad and right, we don't trust the joint investigation. oh,

so i actually went through that. i want to add something to what is that hold on? i'm sorry. i want to add something. what you're saying because we've been trying to monitor the comments as well. we've had more than one comment from and from viewers on youtube and on twitter saying that it really wasn't independent investigation. that when it's a joint investigation, it's not an independent investigation. exactly. i thought it was a momentous identity. let me finish. so 1st we don't have any person confidence as victim. we don't have just gone through the process 1st, you have to trust and believe in the process. so there's no thrust. there's no transparency, the joint investigation. we don't even know what the terms of reference are. we don't know the tour and there's no institutional, interpersonal independence of the process that you have in here. right. commission is funded and controlled by the hip and government even the director dr. daniel is under the prime minister's payroll knows this protection and all that we conversation the tennyson and disco. so most of the is right. we're not of interview a size. let's get

a demo here too. yeah. so 1st is that the report is about incident during a time frame war when everything was happening integrate. so it's only logical that most of the violations that happened at that particular time and were committed by the name and then to grand forces. that's one, the secondly, the violence actually started by the t p l as they attacked, they not only attacked the defense forces, which they atlas justified as part of their security operations. but the largest ma slacker. in this particular incident, since the conflict started was i actually needed to provide that in here from the previous version. and i wanna ship it the for the 3. okay. so i'm gonna search the i and i as friend of military have started the work, the warden started i actually the war started in april 28th. so we have to agree on that. okay. can as, as, as i says, moment and then go ahead and make when it's finished, it's important that one, the conflict was into gray. so most of the violations naturally were committed by

not to grant us one. second, the violence including your going to civilians, was actually started by the piano. it started in my car for a few days after the conflict interrupted and wondered, so civilians were massacred by let's see that t v t p elephant it's its affiliates. secondly, the cutoff period for this particular report was june. and since then the conflict has moved out of to quite. and since then, most of the vial is naturally again, has been committed, reported committed by the glad to grand for so let me ask, let me bring, let me hold on a moment. let me bring will into this. well, i mean, i think the debate that we're having right now really gets to the question that i have is it is very difficult to actually know what is going on. i'm on the ground in the region. what do you know about what life is like for to grands right now? what, what, what do you know? what i see before i get to that, i think on this, on this report, what we have is that, you know, it has done some extra documentation and it could provide some accountability. but

ultimately, because of the contested nature of the report. as you can just see from this discussion, it's actually going to do next to nothing, to get us any further towards political consent. exactly which is why it is such a much when this much strong take ryan allegations of bias against the commissioner against the jews. right, which is why i try to, which is why i'm trying to pivot. so what life is like for actual to grands because i agree what you're saying now is it really going to serve? doesn't serve people well. what do you know about what it is that they are going through? i think what's going on those guys, what's going on and what's going on in the gray is that the federal instrument ministration, where the federal military withdrew from tech right at the end of june. since then, we've had no banking services, no telecom services, barely any electricity services that we know specially provided electricity inside pick, right. the 8th and the trade was completely knocked out, aid was reduced to one very in direct land cordial, which has been heavily choked by your receipt. so something like only 10 percent of

the needed aid is getting through. the bombing has been interrupted by the war and by the looting many hospitals and clinics have been destroyed. other economic and institutions have been destroyed and that happened a year ago now. so it's an incredibly serious situation. we keep quoting this, take over 400000 people in time and condition. well, that was in july. since then we've seen nervous function of trade. we've seen no medical supplies, we say no, i'm running out of cash and everything out of food. okay, so i'm to school and i'm sorry, i don't know when you guys, well i get, i get a cute, obviously in the areas where they take great forces of taken the war to particularly and i'm, our region has been another 500000 people displaced. we think, and i also very guys, we're going to be no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we this, no, no, we are now to be out of time when we cannot had this discussion without talking about a way out of this. and i've got a couple of comments for him and from people on you to one saying,

abby's days are numbered. the other one saying the t p a left should be eliminated from all of ethiopia, guys are about at a time. you cannot give me long answers, but i want to hear from me to view. what do you see is the way out of this? and you can go 1st quickly one quick one. i think a william is rights. the humanitarian situation is not only in human. it's also not strategy, it does not make sense for, for the national government to not facilitate the return of services, the retirement, a return of your money, monetary and access. if it's to prevent the conflict, it hasn't. so it's, it's not only in human. i think it's strategically, extremely short sighted to not facilitate the humanitarian service. it's important as a report said they're not deliberately impeding it, but they're also not watching with so quickly in terms of solutions. there's no, there's no, there isn't really no other way there has to be negotiation. and there's

a both part is new to recognize that the grievance is that each side has, are really so that the reasons for the grievances may not be. you may question the reasons, but the grievance is route and the only way to address those grievances, engage those grievances is through through negotiation. okay? as i, as, as i, as, as an evaluation of i am. and i think negotiation negotiation with bruno, an assault to human, concise, and as a victim from the victim group. i feel i feel disappointed by adams, just seeing negotiation with the region that committed a crime. and i think i believe what should be done is re jim in the center assume power legitimately and the power expired long time ago back in 2090. so i think 1st, but the origin, that curio is danielle santa religion, really should be removed and that the prime minister assumed power through sham election, elect us that you're pending and interest me. and of course, and of course that the private guys and i go

enough william. so do you see negotiation is the way out i need to be, i need to be clear that of course he, the prime minister would say that there was not a sham election. but what do you see is the way out as negation? we're about out of time. broadly, we need to reset this, this transition which has gone through the, off the rail. and that's the process of intrusive political negotiations. the only way to stop the advance and protect great for an alliance with the remote liberation army looks to be, you know, some form of meaningful confession. finally, from the federal government. the primary reason that the tick re force went on the offensive in july is to overcome what they call a siege on take, right? that denial of those basic services, electricity, telecoms, and banking, the choking of a and a lot of trade from already ravaged economy. the federal government needs to take meaningful action to lift the seed and then okay, 40 nice to pull on the camera that will show that that will get more time. we're

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