international pressure, women and girls were banned from school and work when they were in power in the ninety's, autism. why? and again, i did that them, i got them that i wish that schools all over afghanistan would start soon. and that girls and women have the right to study because half of society is made up of women . don't yet have as anton. ah, it's up stories on our desert. the un says 16 of its local staffers have been detained in ethiopian capital, addis ababa. and it's working with the government to get them released. 6 other, you and workers were also detained. but have now been freed as far as i know, no explanation given to us by why these, these staff members are or detained a fee. there are 16 remaining in detention

and 6 have been released. so that, that's the, the breakdown or they come from various un agencies, they're all national staff. it is imperative that the, that they be released. meanwhile, diplomatic efforts to stop ethiopian complet escalating into a full blown civil war, a gathering pace, the african union. and boy, on a 2nd or by sandra, has traveled to the m horror and are far regions. and the rebels from to grey and the north country is north of advanced, closer towards the countries capital. they've been seen in the town of kimmy say about 300 kilometers from and is have a. the african union is also mediating between the government and rebel forces to withdraw troops and allow aiden to try. thousands of migrant stock only bellows border blocked by polish troops from entering the e. u. with temperature set to plunge over night. pohden says the migrant saw under the control of better russian armed units. if is the military could provoke a violent incident claim,

the battery defense ministry has dismissed as an unfounded accusation. european union has been arrested president, alexander lucas shanker, is nearing people through false promises of easy entry to europe. and analysts are predicting that the new pledges countries have made to tackle climate change this decade will still lead to temperature rising around $2.00 degrees celsius. the century. some $140.00 countries covering 90 percent of global emissions have announce targets to cut emissions. analysts say many of the pledges lack practical detail and short term plans. climate action truck as if all long term net 0 pages are met. it could curb temperature rises to $1.00 degrees celsius by the end of the century. the stream is up next, reflecting on 25 years of owners era. do say that if you can, i know me

ah, ah, i michel carrie and i'm just rushing and you're in the stream. the algebra media network turns 25 years old this month. and today we're looking back at history mark by obstacles, threats, and attacks, and the reputation of their journalism focused on the world's unheard stories. so you may be wondering why i'm here with rachelle today, right? my person or actually without a 0, started back in 2000 and fort central command and doha, which was just a few miles away from al jazeera headquarters. but i was not a journalist then i was a us marine. it was during the us invasion of iraq in many ways out 0 was just as much of the story as the war at that moment. and this clip from control room

documented some of that time. we believe that already has web struction that they had the will to use them against us when i mean when, when, when to do them against that they have the will to use them against the how when i mean you think you say, so what i'm saying i mean, i had them so that was in the us much discussion. yes. when used to me, i'm sorry. this is now because you news to me. okay. when will him defer 30 in the u. s. weapons of mass destruction. oh i see. i try misunderstood your question. we believe you have the will to give them the forces to using and stuff. and i'm just conveying to you what people are saying. they're saying that the us is inventing a purpose as it goes along in the beginning. it was weapons of mass destruction and then the whole thing, trust solving to remove it from power. so what we're doing it for the modem. so no

one knows. i mean, people think people think you that to basically control the oil of iraq or told the iraqi flame politics to control of the region. i'll circle back to josh in a moment. right now we are joined by d mc a t, one of the original al jazeera journalist at the founding. now she's the managing director of the ha plus channels in here with us all set as alberto hebrew gore. he is the al jazeera bureau chief for the americas, the host, amid washington on al jazeera and a veteran journalist of the network. and we really want you to be part of this conversation as well. so feel free to join our youtube chat to beat part of his conversation will monitor from the comments and be reading them throughout the show . so i want to go back to doha right now to, let's color day one day. ma damica tape, who has been with al jazeera from day one, deem it is it feel like 25 years?

i did. i not the one i joined a year after the launch she loved it was very small. it does feel like a lot more in terms of what we've done, what we do, what we've achieved. but yeah, it went by so fast at the same time. so much has happened since launches of this year in the region because it really changed the media landscape in the our world. and i think it shook the way media was covering a lot of events in the world. so one thing i can say, i'm very proud to be part of this. and so today. okay, so i'm gonna refresh your memory about a moment in history that i'm sure you don't need a reminder about that particular moment that maybe your reaction to what was

happening during the fall of baghdad. i want to show you something that you were watching as this event was happening. oh goodness. i still can't believe it. i don't know what to say. i can. it's, it's a regime found. where is the republican gun? when the iraqi army did must be some way they couldn't have just vanished asking all the right questions even back then. what does that watch to that? what does that take you back to that moment? yeah, i think the back always when people ask me about this i, i, i am puzzled again how this whole thing happened. it was so traumatizing for us to

live the moment that moment of the fall of baghdad. and the whole thing that preceded the war on iraq. and it is it's, it's a little bit, it's a little bit add to think that some, you know, things have not changed so much in politics since that day we just kind of grew a little bit more mature. so we react differently. but i think the war or is still there, we still cover wars at the time. of course it was a huge story for us and i was in that control room literally every day we were just for people supervising coverage life. and we had exclusive coverage. every day we felt that power of the duty actually to use that power to convey what otherwise would not in would not have been b. the same thing from afghan is st. the 70 cent balance. and so it is empowering

for me to watch that i remember those moments and, and, and we've done this so many times over and over in and to see if doing i come away watching that clip of you dim a wondering how time has been so kind to you and i've age so much how would that we were in the same movie at the same time? what time work did you go to frontier? ha, but after 20 years necessary. and i'll answer, i'm doin with other him the 1st time i think i may have saw you actually before i met you personally, was when you're on charlie rose and charlie rose at that time now is become something quite different, but that like this is the intelligency of america tuning in, in here you were having this conversation about al jazeera that was so different than what most americans thought about it. when did you come down to 0? what, what drew you to it? i came in listening to people talk about her 0 as being as doing feisty

journalism. and when you compare that with the kind of journalism that was then done in the arab world, very an a dine, basically the, the, it was the voice of the government in placing any one or arab country. and then you studied to have this christ ines for face, aloha. sims, are the opposite direction of for example, this kind of narrative that to dina was it was talking about trying to cover wars that were affecting people in the region down to their daily bread from a different, from a different, a different perspective. not, no, not shying about raising the difficult to difficult questions. so that attracted me to and as you know, which i joined coming from b. b. see, coming from public radio here in boston, coming from all africa dot com, coming to our jazeera ino, when preparations were beginning for the invasion of iraq. my 1st assignment

withers is 0. my 1st major assignment was to cover president bush's address to the general assembly of the united nations in the fall of 2002 about iraq. and then the invasion happened in, in, in march. and since then, i ito to me when i say 25th anniversary of our 025 years, it sounds somehow different from saying a quarter of a century. i mean, this is a network that has basically enshrined the history of the region in the minds of the people of the region, but also globally can we show my computer this is to you on charlie rose at that time and i'm just curious. what was it like being basically you become the face of out there in america at this moment, which is the build up to the rock war. what did americans take about how desert then, and what kind of backlash were you getting from the, from this? i mean, it, it, it was mixed feelings. i mean,

that interview to me was the beginning of al jazeera breaking into the main stream in the united states. and mainstream media to see know that those appearances on, on charlie rose, they were quite a few of them. there were appearances on m. s, n, b, c on a busy. so the world was beginning to pay attention. and obviously the mixed feelings that americans had. there were also americans were very critical of alysia arabic. a obviously was talking about at that time at 0 english did not exist yet. but there were people who thought that as a 0 was, you know, the mouthpiece of osama bin laden broadcasting those tapes of osama bin laden and, and so on. but i do remember distinctly when i covered some of the rallies against the invasion of iraq hearing the united states. as you may recall, some of the biggest rallies in the world against the invasion of iraq happened here in the united states. and many people, as they saw the mike of her al jazeera, many people came to us incidentally including susan serrano in new york. and they

said, we want you to tell people in the middle east that not all americans are for the, the invasion. so americans had a mixed approach to elses here, so it might be helpful to don roseville was one of those people. oh, absolutely, absolutely. and covering the war and obviously there's and there's risks, but covering a war and a lot of criticism, we're going to get to ronald donald rumsfeld minister, mom at 1st. i want to show on something that happened to just errors offices and in baghdad during the war, andrena covering a war is, is risky and a cost people lives. and that includes the lives and journalists. so let's, let's watch this. she didn't come at a human she'd, i'm part of the household and i was joanna mac. i looked at the i'm, i shouted on them, telling them to move. they're coming out on the face of this guy because he has nothing to do with it. they run the card and they moved

a little difficult. on the 2nd minutes later, i was on the phone with the other. kudos berman and he said it is a blaine, tony called on hoss and now it's coming towards us. and it's, he said, breaking down nose down, which means formation of attack. and america lane keen and launched the missiles against our office. the explosion killed a it's obviously a very and difficult clip to watch and my, i could see your reaction, you flinch as is one would, as one would imagine, how does it feel take for you to remember colleagues who have been lost. i'm trying to cover the stories for us. it was a really sad moment for all of us. i remembered that very well. we've been targeted

many times that. i mean, this was the beginning of it. if you look good al jazeera to day, we have we're, we're banned from working so many are some of our journalists have been jailed or even our jail still bureaus has been shot general. this has been hill and, and we can had somebody taken to one town um mm hm. so yeah, it comes with a big sacrifice. and that's because we challenge is that a school we speak truth to power and that's scary of people in power. it's very simple. they really simple, you say that's when it began, but it actually in afghanistan, the u. s. blew up the al jazeera offices there. ah, and it did, it continues to say the summer the al jazeera office in gaza ah,

was destroyed. and so it is a pattern time and time again. and i'd like to go back to this kind of challenging people in power, and we have a sound bite that i'd like to share. and it's, it's when you sat down and interviewed donald rumsfeld after the war. this is a classic example of how somehow when you're there as a journalist, but at the same time when you do that kind of interview in the west, you're also representing al jazeera in a way beyond just being a journalist. because if he calls you out on here, it was watches the spot. do you think that the numbers you went into iraq? the numbers of us troops that you want to iraq with did absolve you from the responsibility of tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of innocent iraqis killed by the coalition. and those criminals that you talked about. where are you going to study a straight answer?

look, you can characterize my answers any way you want, and you do it in a pejorative way. now, you know, you don't at all your, you know, obviously use, you are of that nature. it's clear that you're, that you're being, that you like to do that. now what, you know, you really don't, don't talk about that. you have been respectful, you're just talking over and over and over. do you have you have you have just disparaged me as a member of the or but that's okay. just give me a straight answer. how did that disappear? rejoice said, you're not being respectful, you're just talking over and over. he says you're just talking over and over here there's a quote in control and he says they tell lies and they show it over. and you love that over and over. and over again, but what he of asking the other journals were from any other network that it's of your nature, it's of your being like, clearly he's putting not just you, but out jazeera kind of on the spot in that interview. what, what's like, like,

how do you, how do you deal with that? as a journalist? i mean, i, at that moment i, i couldn't tell whether he meant you were of that nature as an arab, all you, he meant you were of that nature. as you know, somebody working for al jazeera, i didn't want to go down the route of you that he may have meant it as an arab, because that would have taken me in a different direction. so i went with the other route. ok, you disparaging me as a member of al jazeera, i mean that, that what, what he failed to get am, is number one that i wasn't his student. because at some point in the opening of the interview, he started to give me a lecture about how to do my job. so i wasn't his student. but more importantly, the message that went completely unnoticed by him is that he was talking to an audience in the arab world. he was challenged fearfully challenged by an arab journalists in america. and that arab journalists in america is not gonna disappear

at 4 o'clock in the morning. like what happens in the arab will, to me, that was a major message and he just completely, completely missed it. but the idea that on the same day that he did an interview with a j e. and he did that interview with me representing ha, obviously he was paying a lot of he was giving a lot of importance to a network which he never stopped disparaging. and suddenly, on the same day, he decided to do 2 interviews. and you know, as we saw there, things got very, very, very tiny was, and i circle back to the, the original argument that i made. a lot of people who worked for al jazeera at that time, even those who started the like the vanguard, to study 25 years ago. what attracted them? most of all is that this is a platform that allowed them to do feisty journalism. as opposed to the anodyne journalism that was predominant throughout the middle east. at that time. yet the

real irony roseville, that he would say during the war that al jazeera lies over and over and over again . now, history knows that out there was asked on the truth that rumsfeld was lying over and over and over again about connections. the tears of about w. m. d in iraq about it, things that cost hundreds of 1000 lives. and yet no one's really every been held accountable. and then he goes and goes on the network that he says tells lies or somehow like how does he cut it both ways? you know, there was something in his mind. first of all, i have to say that he's as a, as a brain, he's obviously a very brainy, an, a former defense secretary, the way he could twist things and make arguments, you know, look at it. net, it looked at negatively. he is, he's a, he's a, he is a unique mind. but to him, you know, what really triggered me in that interview. was he started saying things like

dad, democracy and we got her democracy to iraqis. and that's worth the, that's worth the cost. and i'm trying to tell him, you know, try to tell and iraqi family who lost a son or 2 or 3 or a husband or a mother or child trying to, to try to give them this argument that democracy is good for you. it would not make one bit of sense to them and, you know, i, i, i found him completely insensitive to that part of it, which is the, the human part that, you know, posited against ease idea of dick and democracy to iraq. you just jumped to the heart of what makes out, is there a difference? and it's the centering of the rocky families. he never really seen media that centered something other than a western perspective. other than really of a white american perspective or a british perspective, if you ever watched the b, b, c. but out to 0, came along in put up people that look like the rest of the people in the world at the center of the story. and i think it's one of the things that made us really

different. so normally pronto, not absolute, and that something that out is there. arabic and also al jazeera english continued with that mission when they launched at 25 years ago. but about 15 years ago. so let's go ahead and kind of payment now to, to bring in an al jazeera english to show you literally the moment that the network launched. you'll get a kick out of this. welcome to the world news from al jazeera and the very 1st program live for mondo ha news headquarters here in the heart of the middle east. in the next hour, we'll be going live to the world's top new stories. i'm neural day in the gaza strip, which has been brought to the brink of chaos on despair. my sanctioned siege on so i'm how do we toss the in data for seen at the world's west humanitarian prices? i'm regular law entire on crude eros. presidents really hold the key to police in the middle east and barbara where every day can be

a bunch of was abroad. on al jazeera, we'll be setting the news agenda in this hour. we'll also be reporting from brazil on an a digital community with one of the highest suicide rate in the world. the democratic republic of congo, where a disputed election could still lead back to civil war. and from somalia, africa's most dangerous city is peaceful for now. but the how long will also go to russia, as george bush starts his post, foreign visits since defeated the mid term elections to jerusalem. reaction to a faithful rocket attack on his radio towel. on to f, janice done, lilian spent on rebuilding ways. the money gone. and to china for a joy ride with the boy races of beijing. so a dynamic opening like that with people all over the world with that big video, all those things are normal. now they were not the norm back when al jazeera english launched d. my, i want your reaction to seeing that and,

and how it really did change the landscape of how news is presented and the perspective from which it is presented. yeah, i think al jazeera clearly put the global south on the map in, in a way that other media had not done before and in a way that made the media change after. so i think that's what i remember seeing this video. how important the role of azia has been in reaching out to places like africa, places like latin america, like asia, or communities within the countries that are usually covers that are not usually heard that have not had a voice or the diversity by people that were city in, in color and raised in ideologies in gender. everything. if it was really, if i mean the number of nest now that we had from the beginning in out this year

english, which brought in a different kind of people of the people we had an arabic, we used to college there english. the 2nd why favorite one i i used to remember that time it brought all these amazing me. well then it became like and then you and a center of attention. nadeem of when i came from around the world because of respect for people like you and arbiter him, we were attracted to kind of journalism you were doing as you know, i, i was with us at the launch. i left the marines. i help launch out their english and i just knew a lot of media here and i'm just gonna go to my screen. this is how they used to promote me coming on air. look at this traitor, we show picture frame troll room trader. the today show did a, to call me a anti america, was my strength. simply because i was saying, you know, the al jazeera, something you should watch, you should listen to your back. i think the, our model was gonna give a voice,

the voiceless, and i, i don't know if we use any more. don't think we should, because of my do, very to jazeera has been, we give a voice to marginalized communities, but they have a boy absolutely. her and we're not voiceless that don't have a platform, and that's what al jazeera changed. that's the game changers. we gave them a platform. absolutely. and as an american coming to al jazeera, it completely changed my perspective. i mean, i had moments where i felt guilty that why hadn't i thought at this point of view before? well, that's not the news that i grew up watching. and then when you come to al jazeera from top to bottom, are newscasts, are full of people that, that i hadn't, that you know were there, but you really had not put a microphone in front of the, in front of them too much. you were talking about a famine or a war, and there are one dimensional people that was the way in which they were often covered in the media and the western media, and specifically the white western media. as a black woman, the media often did not speak to me, period, western or otherwise. and i saw al jazeera as a place to give

a platform to all of those voices, including people in south america, which i know is a place that means a lot to dana. absolutely. well, dana, go, good, good. yeah, on, on south america, for example, what we did in al jazeera is let go of the mediator and the mediator was the news agencies that are, that carry the narrative of the former colonizers. so news between south america or latin america and they are bull came only from agencies that are based in london in paris in madrid, in washington. so there was always this filter of the north rank that we eliminated by, by going directly from latin america to the, our book. and that was very obvious. if you put new zima and new york times reporter, i'm gonna, i'm sorry, i'm gonna have to wrap. you there, i know you, i'm great,

wonderful stories already. hell and we appreciate the time and the energy and the love that you have given to the network. you as well of every human to josh a. all right, so i thank you for joining us. thank you. for co hosting we'll see here ah november ologist era, 5 years after the history he feel between fog rebels and the colombian government algebra examined white tensions and violence of rising once again. emmy award winning for flies investigates the untold stories across the us. millions in calgary don boat in parliamentary elections under a new constitution and more than a year after the law old figured a political crisis immersive personal short documentary africa direct showcase is

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