on canada of also reopened ah, type a quick check at the top story, say this out you and calling for the release of 16 of its local staff is detained in ethiopia. capital at a suburb. it comes at a time of escalating conflict between ethiopia, central government, and rebel forces in the countries north. as far as i know, no explanation given to us by why these are the staff members are, are detained a v. they are 16 remaining in detention. and 6 have been released so that that's the, the breakdown they come from, various un agencies, they're all national staff. it is imperative that they, that they be released. an african union envoy has traveled to ethiopia as i'm

horror, and a far regions and a diplomatic pushed and the conflict rebels from ethiopia. tig or i region of advanced closer to was a capital the u. n. is wanting the conflict re spiraling into a wider civil war. poland prime minister has accused russia being behind the wave of migrants trying to enter the country through bella luce, he says moscow's actions threatened use divinity. analysts say the pledge is the countries of made at cop 26th. a tackle climate change would still lead to a $2.00 degrees celsius temperature rise this century. that's far more than the $1.00 degree limit is committed to. india's taj mahal has been blanketed in small with air pollution hitting dangerous levels across new delhi and other parts of the north. the severe deterioration equality is being blamed on farmers violating a ban on cross the top court in the u. s. state of oklahoma has overturned a $465000000.00 opioid ruling against the drug, make a johnston, johnson,

the supreme court, their rule that a lower court wrongly interpreted the states public nuisance. lauren 2019 pharmaceutical giant was accused of fueling the opioid epidemic, which has killed more than half a 1000000 americans through deceptive marketing. and there been violent protests in bolivia against the new law meant to tackle eliza profit. several unions and political groups have gone on strike using the government of using the law to target critics. but it is a socialist. government says the opposition plotting a coup. it's been a growing political divide since its former leader, even morales resigned in the wake of protests in 2019. and general electric has announced its splitting into 3 public companies. the u. s. multinational says it wants to simplify its business, reduce debt and boosted share price. the split march, the end of an era of the 129 year old company, which has been a global symbol of american business power. so those were the headlines. the news continues here on our 0 after the st stage and thanks for watching. talked to al

jazeera, we always ask, how would you these like tiny bugs, relationship with the us? we listen copies. my kid is not told for coffee. 19 has been terrible demonstration of the failure of humans so that we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that match on al jazeera. i . c did with i, rochelle kerry, and i'm josh rushing and you're in the stream the i'll just hear a media network turns 25 years old this month. and today we're looking back at history marked by obstacles, threats, and attacks. and a reputation of fair journalism focused on the world's unheard stories. so you may

be wonder why i'm here with rochelle today, right? my personal reaction without 0 started back in 2004 at central command doha, which was just a few miles away from al jazeera headquarters. but i was not a journalist that i was a u. s. marine. it was during the u. s. invasion of iraq in many ways out to 0 was just as much of the story as the war at that moment. and this clip from control room, documented some of that time we believe that iraq has weapons of mass trucks and they had the will to use them against us. when do you mean when, when, when did they use them against that they have the will to use them against the how when i mean, do you think so? how do you say so what have a bill? so they're not saying i mean so. um, so um with the u. s. workers must instruction. yes. well, that's news to me. i'm sorry i had this now because you news to me. okay. when will him before the 4th in the u. s. weapons of mass destruction. oh, i see. i'm sorry. i misunderstood your question, we believe you had the will to give them the forces to use against us. and what i'm

just conveying to you what people are saying, the same. the u. s. is even renting, it goes on all your beginning of those weapons of mass destruction and the whole thing transformed. we have to do movies about poa. so what is it? and no one knows. i mean, people think in april frame cuba to basically a control of iraq or cold, the iraqi for flying politics to the control of the region. i'll circle back to josh in a moment. right now we are joined by d mc a t. one of the original al jazeera journalists at the founding, now she's the managing director of the ha plus channels. and here with us, all set is arbiter, even for gore, he is the al jazeera bureau chief for the americas, the host of mid washington on al jazeera and a veteran journalist of the network. and we really want you to be part of this

conversation as well. so feel free to join, are you to chat to beat part of this conversation will monitor from the comments and be reading them throughout the show. so i want to go back to doha right now to am, let's call our day one day my day make a team who has been with al jazeera from day one. do you me? does it feel like 25 years? i i, i not the one i joined a year after year long. she loved it was very small. it does feel like a lot more in terms of what we've done, what we've achieved. but yeah, it went by so fast at the same time. so much has happened since launches of this year in the region because it really changes in media landscape in the our world. and i think it shook the way media was covering

a lot of events in the world. so one thing i can say, i'm very proud to be part of this today. okay, so i'm gonna refresh your memory about a moment in history that i'm sure you don't need a reminder about that particular moment that maybe your reaction to what was happening during the fall of baghdad. i want to show you something that you were watching as this event was happening with . where is the republican gun? was the iraqi, i'm often must be some way. it wouldn't have just vanish.

asking all the right questions even back then. what does that watch to that? what does that take you back to that moment? yes, stacy, back. always when people ask me about this i, i, i am puzzled again how this whole thing happened. it was so traumatizing for us to live the moment that moment of the fall of baghdad. and the whole thing that was seated the war on iraq. and it is it's, it's a little bit, it's a little bit sad to think that some, you know, things have not changed so much in politics since that day we just kind of grew a little bit more mature. so we react differently. but i think war or is still there. we still cover wars at the time. of course it was a huge story for us and i was in that control room. literally every day we were just for people supervising coverage life. and we had exclusive coverage

every day. we felt that power of the duty actually to use that power to convey what otherwise would not be would not have been doesn't play the same thing from afghanistan. same thing, so many cents from dallas. and so it is empowering for me to, to watch that remembers those moments. i'm, and we've done this so many times over and over it and to see how he's doing. i come away watching that clip as you deem a wondering how time has been. so kind to you and i've age so much that i would that we were the same at the same time. i went to homework. did you go through with john tier with adrian, but after 20 years necessary onset. i'm doing with other him the 1st time i think i may have saw you actually before i met you personally was when you're on. charlie rose and charlie rose at that time. now has become something quite different,

but like this is the intelligency of america tuning in, in here you were having this conversation about how to 0 that was so did the way most americans thought about it. when did you come to al jazeera? well, what drew you to it? i came in listening to people talk about it as being as doing feisty journalism. and when you compare that with the kind of journalism that was then done in the arab world, very and a dine, basically the, it was the voice of the government in place in any one or a country. and then you started to have this priced in us if i sell has in the opposite direction. for example, this kind of narrative that dina was it was talking about trying to cover wars that were affecting people in the region down to their daily bread from a different, from a different, a different perspective. not, no, not shying about raising the difficult to difficult questions. so that attracted me

to as you know, which i joined coming from bbc coming from public radio here in boston, coming from all africa dot com coming to our jazeera, you know, when preparations were beginning for the invasion of iraq. my 1st assignment, whether 0, my 1st major assignment was to cover president bush's address to the general assembly of the united nations in the fall of 2002 about iraq. and then the invasion happened in, in, in march. and since then, i ito to me when i say 25th anniversary of al jazeera, 25 years. it sounds somehow different from saying a quarter of a century. i mean, this is a network that has basically enshrined the history of the region in the minds of the people of the region, but also globally can we show my computer this is to you on charlie rose at that time and i'm just curious. what was it like being basically you become the face of

out there in america at this moment, which is the build up to the war. what did americans take about our desert then and what kind of backlash were you getting from? from this? i mean, it, it was mixed feelings. i mean, that interview to me was the beginning of al jazeera breaking into the mainstream in the united states, the mainstream media to see know, with those appearances on, on charlie rose. they were quite a few of them. there were appearances on m s, n, b c on a busy. so the world was beginning to pay attention. and obviously the mixed feelings that americans had. there were also americans who are very critical of algebra. arabic, obviously, was talking about at that time of english did not exist yet, but there were people who thought that as a 0 was, you know, the mouthpiece of osama bin laden broadcasting those tapes of osama bin laden and, and so on. but i do remember distinctly when i covered some of the rallies against

the invasion of iraq here in the united states. you may recall some of the biggest rallies in the world against the invasion of iraq happened here in the united states. and many people, as they saw the mike of al jazeera, many people came to us, incidentally, including susan surrendered in new york. and they said, we want you to tell people in the middle east that not all americans are for the, the invasion. so americans had a mixed approached earlier, so it might be helpful to don rumsfeld was one of those people. oh, absolutely, absolutely. and covering the more obviously there's and there's risks, but covering a war. and a lot of criticism we're going to talk gets around. i don't want seldom just a moment. first i want to show and something that happened to just there is offices and in baghdad during the war and during the coming or is, is risky and a cost people lives. and that includes alive and journalists. so let's, let's watch this. she didn't come out of, she didn't come on

a sheet. i'm glad i called the hello. hello. hello joanna mckenna, leave you, i'm a, i shouted on them, telling them to move. they're coming out on. rephrase this guy because he has nothing to do with the part and they move don't come at all. i'm going to give us a little because of a certain minutes later i was on the phone with the other portals foreman. and you say it isn't blaine, don't call one hoss. and now it's coming towards outs. pundits exceed breaking down nose down, which means formation of what that and i'm ready coming lane came and launched the muscles against our office the explosion. i mean, it's obviously a very and difficult clip to watch and my,

i could see your reaction, you flinched as one would as one would imagine. how does it feel free to remember colleagues who have been lost? i'm trying to cover the stories for us. you know, it was a really sad moment, but all of them, i remembered that very well. we've been targeted many times that. i mean, this was the beginning of it. if you look good al jazeera to day, we have we're, we're banned from working so many are some of our journalists have been jailed, or even our jail still bureau sent me shots. journalist has been killed. um and we can had somebody take him to guantanamo. so yeah, it comes with a big sacrifice and that's because we challenge that as we speak to

is the power in that scary of people in power. you're very simple. daily info you say that's when it began. but actually in afghanistan, the u. s. blew up, the al jazeera offices there and it continues to say the summer, the out there office in gaza was destroyed. and so it is a pattern time and time again. i'd like to go back to this kind of challenging people in power. and we have a sound bite that i'd like to share. and it's, it's when you sat down and interviewed donald rumsfeld after the war. this is a classic example of how somehow when you're there as a journalist, but at the same time when you do that kind of interview in the west, you're also representing al jazeera in a way beyond just being a journalist because he, he calls you out on here, let's watch this by do you think that the numbers you went into iraq,

the numbers of us troops that you want to iraq with, did absolve you from the responsibility of? tens may be hundreds of thousands of innocent iraqis killed by the coalition. and those criminals that you talked about there, are you going to stay a straight answer? look at it, you can characterize my answers any way you want and you do it in a pejorative way. now i would say we would like to know you don't at all here, you know, obviously use you are of that nature. it's clear that you're, that you're being that you like to do that. now i wish i read what you believe now . no, you really don't, don't talk about that. you're not being respectful, you're just talking over and over and over. you have to see you have you have you have just disparaged me as a member of our 0, but that's okay. just give me a straight answer. how did that disparage you? i said you're not being respectful, you're just talking over and over. he says you're just talk it over and over to he,

there's a colon controller where he says they tell lies and they show it over. and you love that over and over and over again. but what he of asking the other journalists were from any other network that it's of your nature, it's of your being, like, clearly he's putting not just you, but out jazeera kind of on the spot in that interview. what, what's like, like, how do you, how do you deal with that as a journal? i mean, i, at that moment i couldn't tell whether he meant you were of that nature as an arab oil. he meant you were of that nature, as you know, somebody working for al jazeera, i didn't want to go down the route of you that he may have meant it as an arab, because that would have taken me in a different direction. so i went with the other route. ok, you disparaging me as a member of al jazeera. i mean that, that what, what he failed to get am, is number one that i wasn't his student because at some point in the opening of the interview, he started to give me a lecture about how to do my job. so i wasn't his student, but more importantly,

the message that went completely unnoticed by him is that he was talking to an audience in the arab world. he was challenged fearfully challenged by an arab journalists in america. and that arab journalists in america is not gonna disappear at 4 o'clock in the morning. like what happens in the arab will, to me, that was a major message and he just completely, completely missed it. but the idea that on the same day that he did an interview with a j e. and he did that interview with me representing ha, obviously he was paying a lot of he was giving a lot of importance to a network which he'd never stop disparaging. and suddenly, on the same day, he decided to do 2 interviews. and, you know, as we saw there, things got very, very, very tiny was in our circle back to the original argument that i made. a lot of

people who worked for al jazeera at that time. even those who started, you know, like the vanguard to study 25 years ago. what attracted them? most of all is that this is a platform that allowed them to do feisty journalism. as opposed to the anodyne journalism that was predominant throughout the middle east. that that time, yet the real ernie rose fell that he would say during the war that al jazeera lies over and over and over again. now, history knows that out there was actually to on the truth that rumsfeld was lying over and over and over again about connections. the tears of about w. m. d in iraq about it, things that cost hundreds of thousands of lives. and yet no one's really every been held accountable. and then he goes and goes on the network that he says tells lies or somehow like how does he cut it both ways? you know, there was something in his mind. first of all, i have to say that he's as a, as a brain. he is obviously a very brainy or a former defense secretary. the way he could twist things and make arguments,

you know, look at it now. it looked at negatively. he is, he's a, he's a, he's a unique mind. but to him, you know, what really triggered me in that interview. was he started saying things like a democracy and we got a democracy to iraqis, and that's worth the, that's worth the cost. and i'm trying to tell him, you know, try to tell and iraqi family who lost a son of 2 or 3 or a husband or a mother or child trying to, to try to give them this argument that democracy is good for you. it would not make one bit of sense to them and, you know, i, i, i found him completely insensitive to that part of it, which is the human part that, you know, posited against ease idea of dick and democracy to iraq. you just jumped to the heart of what makes out, is there a difference? and it's the centering of the rocky families. he never really seen media that

centered something other than a western perspective. other than really of a white american perspective or a british perspective, if you ever watched the b, b, c. but al jazeera came along and put up people that looked like the rest of the people in the world at the center of the story. and i think it's one of the things that made us really difference and thermal pronto not absolute. and that something that out there arabic and also al jazeera english continued with that mission when they launched at 25 years ago. but about 15 years ago. so let's go ahead and kind of payment now to, to bring in an al jazeera english to show you literally the moment that the network launched. you'll get a kick out of this. welcome to the well news from al jazeera on the very 1st program live from on doe ha news headquarters here in the heart of the middle east . in the next hour, we'll be going live to the world's top new stories. i'm neuron day in the gaza strip, which has been brought to the brink of chaos on despair, my sanction seeds on. so i'm how do we toss the in data for seen at the

world's west humanitarian prices? i'm regular law entire on crude eros. presidents really hold the key to police in the middle east and barbara where every day can be a bunch of was abroad. on al jazeera, we'll be setting the news agenda in this hour. we'll also be reporting from brazil on an a digital community with one of the highest suicide rate in the world. the democratic republic of congo, where a disputed election could still lead back to civil war. and from somalia, africa's most dangerous city is peaceful for now. but the how long will also go to russia, as george bush starts his 1st foreign visits since defeated the mid term elections, to jerusalem for reaction to a faithful rocket attack on an israeli ital onto janice done. lilian spent on rebuilding ways the money gone and to china for

a joy ride with the boy races of beijing. so a dynamic opening like that with people all over the world with that big video, all those things are normal. now they were not the norm back when al jazeera english launched. d. my, i want your reaction to seeing that and, and how it really did change the landscape of how news is presented and the perspective from which it is presented. yeah, i think al jazeera clearly was the global south on the map and in a way that other media had not done before and in a way that made the media change after. so i think that's what i remember seeing this video. how important the role of azia has been in reaching out to places like africa, places like latin america is like asia or communities within the countries that are usually covers that are not usually heard that have not had

a voice or the diversity by people that were city in, in color and raised in ideologies and gender. everything, if it was really, if i mean the number of nest now that we had from the beginning in out this year english, which brought in a different kind of people. obviously, before we had an arabic, we used to college there english, the 2nd why? favorite one. i think i used to remember that time it brought all these amazing well then it became like and then you and a center of attention i deem of when i came from around the world because of respect for people like you and arbiter him, we were attracted the kind of journalism you were doing as you know i, i was with us at the launch. i left the marines. i help launch out there english. and i just knew a lot of media here. and i'm just gonna go to my screen. this is how they used to promote me coming on air. look at this traitor, we show

a picture frame control room trader the today show did a to call me an anti america, was my strength. simply because i was saying, you know, the al jazeera, something you should watch, you should listen to in your back. i think the, our model was gonna give a voice, the voiceless and i, i don't know for use any more. don't think we should because of my do, very to jazeera has been, we give a voice to marginalized communities, but they have a lot absolutely higher and whatnot. voiceless that don't have a platform. and that's what al jazeera changed. that's the game changer if we gave them a platform. absolutely. and as an america, i'm coming to al jazeera, it completely changed my perspective. i mean, i had moments where i felt guilty that why hadn't i thought at this point of view before? well, that's not the news that i grew up watching. and then when you come to al jazeera from top to bottom, are newscasts, are full of people that, that i hadn't, that you know were there, but you really had not put a microphone in front of the,

in front of it unless you were talking about a famine or a war and there are one dimensional people that was the way in which they were often covered in the media and the western media. specifically the white western media is a black woman. the media often did not speak to me, period, western, or otherwise. and i saw al jazeera as a place to give a platform to all of those voices, including people in south america, which i know is a place that means a lot to dana. yeah, absolutely. well, dana, go, good, good. yeah, on, on south america, for example. what we did in al jazeera is let go of the mediator and the mediator was the news agencies that are, that carry the narrative of the former colonizers. so news between south america or latin america and they are bull came only from agencies that are based in london in paris in madrid,

in washington. so there was always this filter of the north rate that we eliminated by, by going directly from latin america to the our book. and that was very obvious. if you put meat ema and new york times reporter, i'm gonna, i'm sorry, i'm gonna have to wrap you there. i know you have great, wonderful stories already. hell. and we appreciate the time and the energy and the love that you have given to the network. you as well of every human to josh. all right, so thank you for joining us. thank you for co hosting. we'll see here tomorrow. frank assess is okay. likely to change biking behavior at all. it's not going to change their behavior. they are going to continue to do what they do and in depth analysis of the days global headlines inside story on al jazeera, the latest news as it breaks, no kind of family fe that this is the only way they have to make a living. but it's having a huge impact on the environment with detailed coverage. reagan and intellectual

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