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detained by the government in ada sapa. the conflict between the central government and nolan to cry rebels has escalated in recent weeks. as far as i know, no explanation given to us by why these, these staff members are, are detained. and they, they are 16 remaining in detention. and 6 have been released. so that, that's the, the breakdown they come from, various un agencies, they're all national staff. it is imperative that they of that they be released bolan's prime minister has turned his focus to russia or accusing president. glad to be put in masterminding, the migrant and refugee crisis and poland border with bella rose mateusz mother of ski, had previously accused bela ruth of orchestrating the crisis, but not without the support of moscow. a long time ally of the fellow russian leader, hundreds of migrants have been waiting in freezing temperatures near the border
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with poland to enter europe, the polish defense minister says around 15000 soldiers have not been deployed. the former us president donald trump has suffered a loss in court. his lawyers tried unsuccessfully to block the release of documentation to the investigation into january's capital hill riots. a pregnant em . any journalist has been killed in a car bombing in the southern port city of police say an explosive device was planted on a vehicle carrying russia. abdullah rossi. and her husband who was wounded. both have worked for gulf based tv channels and you reports as human rights abuses, including killings and torture by me and laws. military could amount to walk crimes since the coo, in february, hundreds of thousands of people have been displaced and 3000000 are new to aid. the group 45 rights soldiers, civilians as human shields and used, forced labor in the state of karin. those are your headlines so far today up next, it's inside story. we're back after that was 30 minutes
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a bang up today al jazeera will use. we will see you very soon. bye. oh, the land of the free america has never been a real democracy. the black people wouldn't average me. a new episode of democracy maybe excludes divisions and struggles in america's electoral system to fight for and against equal representation. and the democratic process is the country that learning how to be a democracy, but it's not there yet. one person, one vote on al jazeera oh dog in the middle, thousands of migrants are trying to cross from bella rouge to poland. european leaders accused minsk of news. im gonna split the leverage but arose, says you country that behaving in humanely pool. when the tug of war and at what price, this is inside. ah
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hello and welcome to the show i'm sammy's a than the path behind them is blocked by bella luce and poland says they can't come in. thousands of refugees are trapped between those countries. as they tried to make their journey further into europe, poland accuses bella luce, of using the refugees as political pawns, by the russian officials deny those allegations. they blame poland for the refugees . dire situation where the rao is threatening to create another migrant crisis on the continent. the european union is now threatening even more sanctions against the bell russian government. sunday geiger reports, chopped between the woods and a highway in bella, luce,
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these people have been walking towards the polish border, anxious to enter the european union. on the other side, polish security forces in riot gear, part of the 12000 that had been stationed there, guarding the front here, preventing hundreds of refugees and migrants from breaching the border. but it is a dead log that risks igniting into another migration crisis. on the doorstep of the you for months, thousands have been entering the block through bella. ruth, at 1st via lithuania and latvia, now mainly through poland. the e. u has accused belarus in leader, alexander lucas shanker. of orchestrating wave upon wave of undocumented migrants and asylum seekers. in retaliation they say, for sanctions it imposed on his government over its violent crackdowns on the opposition court. in the middle of this brinkman ship, those attempting to escape the harsh conditions they find themselves in with no
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shelter and being steered towards poland by bela risky and state border officials. some had taken the chance off, the hearing that bella was in travel agents was selling these invitations to the you only to find themselves surviving for weeks in the forest. the board of poland and belarus, the cuts are they they provide everything then. but when you say when, when you said to them, ok, i want to go to tech. i want to go, i want to go back to my country. so then they said no, you go to go on they put the gun to our heads. when we were, when, when we said we need to go to manson, so far, opponents, nationalist government has refused help from the use frontier agency. despite reports by polish border guards of hostile behavior and threats from better received forces. for those stuck in this no man's land,
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there is no guarantee how long they will have to face the elements with little access to food and water. human porn's between 2 hostile neighbors. funny guy, yeah, go al jazeera. well, most migrants trying to cross from bella luce, into europe come from the middle east and africa. they've mainly attempted to pass through poland, latvia and lithuania to reach the rest of the continent. the migrants are reportedly being helped by bell russian authorities to get to the border with the e. u after flying in to minsk, poland beefed up security and is accused of violating the international right to asylum by pushing migrants back into battle. ruth rights groups have criticized poland and barrows for that treatment of the migrants who are dealing with cold temperatures, the lack of food and medical help. the let's bring in our guests into the show. now i have joining us from warsaw lilyann
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this me f. she's the director of analysis at the war for institute in moscow. big ole, which is lead experts at the center for actual politics. and in brussels. p. s a. clap, a is editor of brussels report, dot e. you welcome to all, let's start with liliana. so what is the perspective from warsaw do they see that better is, is deliberately using these migrant support political pressure on countries like poland says, well, i would like to thank you for the invitation to the program and directly answering the question yes, yes. using good those people in the european personal hall and he has always been working for a letter for another shot by our friends. and it will be our friends. let me jump. if i may liliana and present to you the perspective from bella, luce,
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they say countries like poland have actually created this crisis because they're not observing, humane treatment and reception of potential refugees and, and migrants who just want a safe place in europe. of course of course that there are. 5 legal ways to enter the european union employee here. they can try to get to eat now. by all means we're not trying to head the people, but if it's not possible in this case because of the hybrid war, and this is regina. what you think those people to try to different really like here, let me take that perspective to moscow. victor, what do you make of the suggestions that ready bell russian authorities have created this crisis is some kind of political payback because of the dispute
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between the e. u. countries like poland and bella. ruth, well, we have to look back a little more than a year to see where the roots of this crisis lie. so means the location because of the billows, believes that poland and when you played a role in the campaign to do jeremiah him including the european continent within the e u after the elections last year that were falsified in his favor. and so he, she is this as a way back, and the object of this action continue to get action with migrants from the middle east, passing through bell russian territory into the
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e. you, the object of this is to show us if i could be here as well the way it is. but also the report suggests that these are not simply people who are passing through. but the claims, at least from countries like poland and lithuania, is that the better russian authorities have been actively organizing, facilitating helping these people to come to minutes and then bust them to the border. this is not a case they say of been rational pharmacy simply court in the middle. of course, this is, this involves essentially, sponsoring the movement of these migrants from the middle east, from iraq, for example, through a bill or russian territory and, and then providing routes for them to enter you countries with when ya and ball. and of course, if the bill of russian authorities did not want this to happen,
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it would simply not happen. there is no question about it. and so the reason behind that is that the rational storage is, wants to show the duplicity the suppose the places here of the pollution with when you have to where it is. so this war. so, and we use spoke a lot about human rights violations in bill or was last year and this year. so biller was, wants to create. this is creating these incidents to show that poland and with when you themselves are violating the rights of these migrants that want to come through bill was into polish and with when you in 33. and so bill was, is actually using what is happening at the border and what is happening in the temporary my migrant camps for its information campaign,
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both domestically and the, and the campaign that it's waging to as far as foreign countries are concerned. but in you, but if bill was ever here, then you hopes of this modify leading to a modification or a softening of economic or political sanction. sanctions against music. this would simply not work. or let me jump into your union, we will we do on the actions against me and what the impact will be in the end. but before we get to that point, i want to bring her into the discussion. all we really looking at a situation in the 21st century of basically human beings. many of them women and children, perhaps even refugees being used as political poems as pay back because of a political dispute between countries that they have nothing to do with. well,
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i'm afraid that's indeed the case and if there were any doubts that the boorish regime was involved, i think yesterday you could see the images of i think, a few 1000 people being escorted to the border so, so i mean, it's a sort of flooding heart to deny for brother is now that it is indeed an instrumental icing migration. and surely these people have been lured to better as with all kinds of false false promises. now, the question is, what to do about this? now i think on the short term or the european union can do is to tell the airlines that are bringing these people from the middle east to minsk that they are no longer allowed to operate in the u. as long as they fly on mince. i mean, of course, only for a short period, but that will definitely end this, this little scheme. that is, i think no longer just hybrid warfare is actually bordering on on warfare. but when
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you see the image isn't, it looks indeed like the russian regime is deliberately looking and, and craving for, for some violence. so. ready so let's hope everybody keeps keeps at school because that's very important to us. certainly has the issue has the issue. once again shown a crisis on europe, sport is that the e u is struggling to deal with. it's struggling to come up with a coherent policy that kind of the one hand satisfy those concerns about national sovereignty and borders. but also balance that with respect for international obligations, towards receiving people who shop water and say, hey, we need protection, we have kids, we have women. well of course, legally it's, it's doubtful whether these people can, can claim to come from a non safe country, given that they voluntarily went to, to belarus,
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in the same issues were play with when you had the issue between turkey and greece . now the thing is fundamentally, the european union does not properly control its borders. and the reason is that if you and irregular migrant issue managed to, to enter your territory, even if you are denied asylum, there's a very low chance that you will be send back. and i think that study does a core issue here. and this is now being abused by autocrats at europe borders. and there are several ways of trying to deal with that. one of it is what denmark and united kingdom are not trying to do which is to, to sort of our source solemn processing. it's very hard, but i think if the whole, if this would be taken up at the u level,
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than the id to sort of allow people to apply for asylum in the region. and then one that when they get the yes they, they can, they can come to europe. if not, they are, you know, repetitive from europe to, to death, perception center. i mean, that kind of a system could indeed subtle the situation, but you've opened them all about taking it up. your words were taking it up to the level, but come back to you in a moment about that. but before we go that far, i want to bring in the leanna and ask this question. who's winning the game so far? leanna? well, i was heated right now. this is a big issue with lazy and me right now. so we somehow are able to manage it on our own, but we're not seeing, you know, maybe in the future we will need more,
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more help from europe. also. so far, i think all the countries understand situation that well in it's not the aim of those migrants. this are jerry, my friend, belgium. so what all is doing, we are protecting the ball, the european union. we are protecting it. so i think that should be stressed out and also why is doing it? we should also remember about european union did not approve the presidential election. it was one my team on the 9th of last year. so right now, you know, a leaders are meeting with i'm not right. so. # really it's not handling situation in a with monitor, so he's just sending those people to the well will he prevail? will his policies produce any softening of the you line or all back of the
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sanctions which were imposed in june and so on. i think that they're still lacking off the convoys from the european union about you know, personally i don't see here. # any area discussion because wish not discuss it with there are so in this k i n, n a n e are young to discuss it in a normal way. ask you in, for example, your opinion, let me bring in vixen. you had something to comment on, didn't you about that your analysis, victor, is that basically this will back fire on minsk? well, it actually makes bill or was a singular loser in this situation because 1st of all, there is little chance to put it mildly that the european union is going to soften
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the sanctions regime. that it introduced the guest bill. it was following last year's force for the elections. and so if means care, then you doubts about that the last few months as this migrant crisis has proceeded, the doubts reverberated, in fact, the, for anything the european union or specific european union countries are likely to introduce even crush or sanctions against the misc. at the same time, ah, and so the question arises is this is the economic and political damage wars, the information campaign that bill says waging the up again, the campaign that's, that's a question for the russian authorities to answer. but there is another interesting winner in this situation, and that's in the way russia,
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because as the economic for shows of billows, decline because of man's position towards this crisis, including this crisis. so does the russian influencing economic influence in, in billers increase? because bill was, has to get the resources that it was getting from the e u a through its economic relations with countries in cash to somehow get it to get those resources somewhere else. and basically look shanker at this point. can point, can ask for those sources in russia and to some degree in china with which villers has a fairly good, but it could save pretty good relations. and of course, the main sponsor in the last few years has been the russia. so essentially this crisis is weakening, or he's continued to weaken a lucas shanker,
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even though perhaps he believed in the beginning that it would strengthen him. ok, so a weakening of lucas shanker. perhaps p. s. or also, is there a weakening of a you influence? as victor pointed out that perhaps russian influence increases. you said an important sentence a moment ago about whether there would be any action on the e you level to take this matter off the thing to let this latest statements out of the e u commission. it seems clear when they say, you know, this is a, this is up to the national competence to deal with. it doesn't sound like there's a lot of political will at the level to get involved with, with this at least at the level of trying to sort out how you handle people at the borders. right. well, i'm not so sure to be honest. of course, when it comes to border protection, that is a national competence and it should stay
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a national competence. i don't think we need like a big bureaucracy or, or from tx even i don't think they couldn't do much good, frankly. but while the are p unit can do is to, for example, tackle this trait aspect of this particular crush is the fact that all the airlines or transporting people from the middle east to, to europe. and you see a hardening of stance. australia was traditionally one of the more that se, darvis member states towards belarus and they have no hardened their sense. i think we have to really make a distinction between sanctions or intended to punish autocrats for domestic abuse. and typically those sanctions are not very, very successful and other kinds of measures that are needed to sort of protect the integrity of, of the, of the european union's borders. and we're talking about the,
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the 2nd set of measures now. and i think if this continues, all you member states will no doubt that they will need to take action that they will basically put an end to disc. chaos so, so indeed, i don't think lucas shinkel will emerge as the, as the winner here. of course it's possible that domestically dismay, strengthen his position. unfortunately that for dictators, do they stir up some trouble abroad in order to sort of have the radi around the flag effects. but then looking at the massive protest i, we've seen embarrass, couldn't make that really navigation for some of the countries who are dealing with this issue too that they have right wing governments that see a political interest for them in rallying that public opinion around the sort of anti migrant and refugee stance. right. well of course the polish government
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will also use this to increase its popularity but mean installed the polish government that is flying in people from the middle east to to then force them to the border. this is all a consequence of factious taken by the regime in minsk. let me bring in the honor again off this question. is it rarely a win for countries like poland? if lucas shank has weakened but at the expense or the benefit of countries like russia, that much comfort and walsall oh, well yeah. one me as well. and i just like to comment a on the previous thing for me from russell. and i said, well,
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i think that this issue should be completely unbelievable. you know, because a way to the other piece, you know, we are protecting our bo this and that should be b point number one in a little jump in and tell you what a lot of human rights groups are saying, you know, a couple of 1000, mostly women and children aren't exactly a huge security threat to the continent of europe. all they, yes. wow. i mean, they could be a, you know, humane way to deal with this. even if you know was hold, doesn't want to have to deal with people being shipped in special poll. we are, we are dealing with those people and we want to help them. and this is their responsibility . all 4 of the parents who are taking those children for like
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a huge tree which also cost a lot of money and everyone, not every person in the middle east, not every person in iraq disabled, paid such a huge amount of money. so this is also been stressed out here and of course, um, such usage of people as a went home in such a conflict in such a hybrid ward, i think it's the 1st month in modern history. so yeah, i completely agree that it shouldn't be you know, like this we as the country, we need to for the voters. all right, we're not a oh, we've made that change. all right, you made that point loud and clear. i'm afraid we are out of time, so we're gonna have to end it there. let's thank our guests very much liliana victor and better and thank you to for watching. you can see the show again any
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