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ah. hello everyone, i'm rochelle kerry. and for, for me, ok, the un climate change conference comp $26.00 is coming to a close india. the world 3rd biggest carbon emitter has made some surprisingly bold energy pledges. but how feasible are they on our discussion about india and climate change on youtube? and you too, could be in the stream the me and the prime minister and arrange moody crated a lot of us at cop 26 this month by announcing them huge environmental pledges.

they include a promise to pivots, ward green energy by 2030, and achieve net 0 emissions by 2070. the move comes india struggles with several climate related crises. the southern city of janai is under water from an unusually torrential monsoon season. and thousands of people have had to leave their homes and in the north, the moon river in new delhi is coated with toxic foam from industrial waste run off . meanwhile, the air quality in the capital is so bad that many schools closed this week. and you know, it has to tackle climate change, but it's also the world's 2nd most populous country, and its energy needs are growing. so leaders must figure out a way to fuel the booming economy while balancing environmental concerns. joining us to discuss india as climate change pledges kabir arkell waldrum list for the wire and independent indian new site. beer is in glasgow at the club. 26 conference and from london. re to park was the senior researcher for the international

institute for environment and development. and finally, vive ob chart, a very, an economist for the council on energy environment and water, who is also in glasgow at cop $26.00. welcome to all of you have a similar question. basically to start this off at all if you can bear how it has been received there. this news, as i said, i think there was surprise that this was announced the next you know target because just a few days before the prime ministers and an announcement to the minister, the in india, ministry for climate change was actually saying that we are not going to be announcing the next year. so there was surprise there was, it was welcomed mostly that that the india has finally announced the net to docket, which was, which has been sort of in discussion since the beginning at the, at least the beginning of this year. and for india has announced that so that brought in a sense,

an end to that chapter of the debate because john getty and the, and the developed world had been pushing india to announce on it, in many sense as it brought a sense of closure to that debate whether it is going to announce in it, then that is the broader question of how that is going to be achieved or a next, you know, part of it is going to look like. which is something that we can, we can discuss. absolutely, we will discuss this i of that, that's a very good point. 32 am. how would you characterize how this has been received or you personally surprised my this? honestly, i was not surprised because see there was a lot of discussion happening anyways. i 0 and the, you know, i, we love it with us and it seemed like some big bank, some news was going to be enough. but that honestly, if you look at the renewable energy efficiency docket, which is what i'm more interested in that seems like a really boring topic. and for me i. c would really like to come back,

but there are some aspects of climate august. it's been not announced at all between not i like it. for example, in this target on for the common things. are you in any time get any profit on that patient or not? and i'm, is that something that was more pronounced and we were expecting some, some announcement, some mention of those issues. that one by bob or were you surprised? what was your reaction to this? but yes, i think many was were surprised, but we were very pleasantly surprised. but let me say, well, there was a big issue in the meeting that the parents that shared only at the conclusion of the meeting was that they will not be an outlier and tactful. the predict the flu and i knew about it. so yes, there are still, there was a surprise about the no dual thing will not sort of officially get there. that's also said. but having said that, you know, the, the industry is reacting very positively near to the ultimate lee. it isn't. ready

a con, transformation and industrial support, a lot of money on the table and there was a lot of them. so going to do earlier the, all the uncertainty has come on now goes away. so that, you know, very good has to be, you know, they're just going to 70 and no investors have to move in that direction. if they've been a good development from that there, what is the, is the headline to you? i mean there, she's 5 major points for what to you. is the biggest headline out of this announcement. yeah, i would agree. i think the 2030 the announcements, the targets, which have been announced to be meant by 2030. those are of you. those are the legal issues that we should be looking at, and those are the real targets because as the i p c, c has also said that we need to move in the direction of reducing emissions now. so in the next decade, so that is the next decade, which is crucial to more than the net 0 target, which is 50 years of age, which requires a larger, broader transformation which that 2030 targets will feed into. so it's really the

2030 targets. i feel that that are really, really crucial and we need to focus heavily on that. it will, it will require a massive, massive effort to meet those targets. india has shown in the past as well with the 1st set of commitments that it made, that it has the capacity to meet. it's doug, it's the respect to climate change. it has almost met a 2 of its target sir with it, with respect to the purchase agreement. so it has shown the way in that sense it has done better than most most countries party to the buyer's agreement on meeting it's madison green and commitment. so. so that is what i think we should focus on in the next decade with that and, and, and that's what we could talk about as well. okay, so it rated this, you know, had getting half and half india getting half of its energy from renewables by 2030, that feasible to you to see it's feasible. but it's liddy aspiration aids on somebody. ambitious, for example, you know, all the predictions say that india asked by 2030 in the us, i went on for

a generation capacity will be some that are on eastern good by when you think 500, you mean like you would almost be meeting in the target i'd like to do my renewal, which is almost like tripling existing production food and and in many things, if you look at the progress other than the next, actually 2 way to. so if you achieve wondering if you could use the 2nd. and similarly, if you meet then i do appreciate your energy intensity if you need the emission intensive emission reduction. so you know in many times as people mentioning that you can see targets. 9 almost on, you know, because of the performance, even cheap scheme, you know, most of the industrial,

almost in line with that commitment. but the problem is on the energy efficiency and i think density targets the problem is many industries are almost reached a level of flat with a lack of in terms of their performance. they need technology, then you finance to access the best available as national equality. but also, you know, we need increasingly enough focus i attention from the big industrialized industries which are being the focus of an official heat and think it think that focus also to the small and medium enterprises, which will be that good. i. oh ok. i wanted to share, i'm a comment from one of our viewers. said this comment here says, i agree that the promise is up to 2020 that they need to meet, be met. but this year says capacity isn't the problem. political will, is the key 5. bob you've been privy to for meetings with, with government officials, is the political will there to get this done? it is an, in fact, if you look at many of the big boundary form,

does this part of the development of undertaken? in fact, it started to get there the, all the government they're doing or they will do you in the last name or if the govern managed to achieve in late 5 years in the year donaldson, this time also to be our board and the leadership is very strong, there is no doubt about it, it's very visible in there. but let me also, you know, you're busy disclaimer here of this, we are now not dealing with the, you know, a big program of electrification. of all the houses are providing food for all are connecting all dollars in the caps. now this is a very different thing, though you're talking about, you know, massive distribution sector forms and all you need to deal with the complicated things like legal unions. and it is much more complicated than you know, just of providing electricity access, which is just the water infrastructure development. and you could do it a lot more easily as compared to dealing with and gauging with, you know, lighting within the legal unions. the because nat geo is essentially an economic

transformation again and many of those, all of them distortions in the, in the market on the, in the spectrum. then you market both on demand and the supply state. those distortions have to be dealt with it now. and this needs of this much of a different kind of political economy as 2 modes and the federal political can mean the government will need to deal with it. and that is how the, the biggest challenge comes and you talk about labor unions. we're talking about people, i mean, this is not some abstract thing. we're talking about this having to fund a mental change in the way that a country operates. and there are people that are being affected by the by what is happening with climate change. i want to play something from, from a gentleman who has come in whose background is from a farming family who talks about what some of the adaptive measures are that we need to, to, to address this. yes. so all in a climate that was in c, and we face extreme over their events, st. launched gasoline or oceans. floods want have ready to send him back,

shawn because your land rover depend on nature is very my severe india should completely more of a is of course it for you as if we are and he means to address climate crisis and there is no way out of that and also in the, i should probably some of the asian or cdn said about patients to ensure glamour, desist to protect his beeper, and to ensure for a set, predicted and also indian is communities are predicted at the same time, darkest, ascension, and zeros. are providing father who you're close to continued to meet more an existing waiting designation off of claiming crisis. and unfortunately, pictures like what you see here. we see them over and over and over again. there are families who will build and then rebuild and then their homes are destroyed again, they continue to get and displace. so as john paul say, we're in the climate emergency right now and he talks about the justice aspect of that. so re, to what is being done to help people that continue to get pounded impounded by

climate change, while the bigger steps are trying to be made to mitigate it. that's exactly what i was saying. you know, be when he saw that in the more the speech, he didn't talk about it outpatient. i've even thought about lesson damage and that's exactly what this gentleman was saying. that them, it impacts either and some impacts which already locked in and that's causing losses. and damage people are not be, was like them anymore. and, you know, leave, you simply come fired some history these. and irrespective of what kind of climate impacts people are facing with a slab. dow cycle 11 thing is common people are getting this least now exposed to migrate. and right now we do not have any ways in which we are able to support these migrant. we saw a similar situation when we had court cases in india. any saw see of people who are going back are the most my vision happening. you didn't have any and we recently

did the side very saw that, but people are forced to my read and dismissed from their home. they are exposed to other vulnerable. if you got sick and you and so should be in fact that for example, they close to trafficking their 100 to be because, you know, they, they have more safety that india, you know, what i'm saying back in the are also has one of the was not this which is prediction program in the form of the national farm and getting the scheme popularly known as index. not this program has huge potential for creating parameters. and in fact they have some time which is in instruments within them as well. but somehow, you know, we've been trying to it, you know, influence decisions as to how they can make the investment more time, which is that they can create portability. ok, all you impact about then these teams would migrate or there was to get displayed there, covered by the social. so let me, let me ok. so let me, let me,

let me bring can bear to this. i want to read another comment from i did so i hope i'm saying that right? watching on you to read it, it says that india is lying. it's all eyes, they will not abide by their promises can be or i'm curious to me. every 2 is saying, there are millions and millions of people that this effects you have to take care of them. you have to get them to buy in for this to actually work. has that been part of the conversation? are people trustful of the promises that bodie and the government are making? yeah, no, unfortunately the answer that question is no. and this is web site. you disagree with babble as well that we've seen in this government. we've seen the political win, took me grant announcements, but they've all not always been follow up, followed up. and india is meant it's commitments in the band of the bad as agreement. but that's an exception. in almost all domestic policies, the performance of this government has not been something to write home about. so

that is a put it a good will to make grand announcements, but the follow up to mean speak. we'd have to wait and see how that happens and that is very little talk about the how the transition and how people will be for like products, for instance, that a for 1000000 people who are directly automatically employed in the home sick. so who, how those people, if, if india has to move away from coal, howard bliss people, vb avenue, dade, into the sector, there actually is actually one of our viewers had that exact question, a u t. v has, how will india when the or off of coal without hurting them? good. i think a good example of how to look at this is how, how india has dealt with the farmer protest which have been going on for the last one year. now essentially the farmers are protesting because it is also a transition issue because they have to move away from growing vice, which is watering, and to do to climate change and due to other factors as been not only climate change, but the government has just refused to engage with them, right,

refused to provide any kind of assistance in that transition that they're supposed to meet. so that is it's instructive of how india is willing to deal with this problem so far. it's not, it's not done when all right, and bye bye and you are the economist on the panel. so i actually want to place something from another economist talking about am investing in renewables. let's go ahead and listen to guys. that's not 14 big 15. pardon me? filia so relaxed and find any time the mr. moody on november 1st drama to got in depth and mission to med seo by 2070 at the glasgow summit. this is indeed a positive step trauma developing economies perspective. but just said shoot ambitions for konami. now this growth can be profitable and sustainable at the scene time, but just something which these targets can and show. however,

india would meet dec transfer and more importantly, financial support in order to achieve these target. ok, financial support, that's obviously something that's like this is great. where's the money coming from? and by budge, india has said that the rest of the world needs to pony up about a trillion dollars to make this happen. the cobra go right ahead sir. yeah, i mean we will do this and it's so important. first of all, the 3rd, i want to emphasize that this is no dual isn't economic consultation. in fact, my colleagues on the panel are also doing some different opinion because this announcement has been made great. so what do we expect to happen? you know, post announcement. now in a year or 2, we will expect you to submit a more detailed kind of long term strategy, which will have many of the plans that people are saying they're going to. it's missing on this new one, an announcement once and then i'll spend is made of who don't expect in the week of the detail plan is also going to presented for a plan in preparation. and let me know whether it will be there good of an

important part of the plan is definitely finance now, so the un boss is important, but we must also know that it doesn't, you will process will be this long list of deliver. the question is going to be good finance and finances and on not just about the big investment numbers that you see. a lot of these big investments will come from the in a bank. and so we are talking about additional for low cost finance that may be less than all region pension fund or invest in so many places. if employment is an important agenda, then there must be investing in emerging quantities, which is where the growth is. ok, the renewable energy to spectrum and they don't need to guess, you know, you're not talking about drugs about yes, molig low cost finance. that's okay. if i buy a re she wants to get in here. you know, i would just want to, you know, i understand when you say that announcement has been made and then a plan would be, would follow. i think it should be done the way around. they should have been

compensation. they should have been a plan made and then an announcement about benjamin. this announcement was made, i taught that all my for steven and the bus told me any, any country where this has happened actually see that i would let me say this, this government already has been done. you. so tell me what i'm trying to say. you know, see, india is, you know, these liquid specially, you know, going to be and her being made based on the touch, the fact program in the much will give us the on that when the, when i type the well the now there was a massive consultation within that she was made in the target for the stuff the only then the fact was i wasn't now and there was and then there was also commitment that a market most of them would be. second time i came,

there was absolutely no consultation with us, especially the new industry which were given that absolutely no clue as to how they're going to rid of this. so the point is you can keep announcing baggy, but unless you need everybody on board discuss with them. because otherwise, if you just remain target, it will not get you back. okay, bye bye. have reached 325. let my live respond to that. yeah, that's an interesting point. lifeless point is a little, a lot of the say the government, i mean we have been supporting the government. so we have given all the numbers what it takes, in fact the paper is already open open in terms of spectral respect and you see the looper and all that. it's not to go to that are normally very announcement everybody cared about on the way they could have done a 2050 on their judo. you know, on the sudden this is the feasibility. and yes, if you're the big country you are right of 11. so do you think that needs to be

made there, or in terms of presentation to lecture under the conditions, right? so the understanding of this, but when i was there plan on there goes consultation will happen. you must, you must know this and on the, you know, any country look at any country now look at you look good us, everybody has made an announcement. in fact, let me ask you this, you know, to my fellow on this home in the us believe, hit that if the governor different get started with one consolidation asking what should be getting there? julia, what do you think? yes, there will be an industry with a 3rd. there was a 3rd make 212300 next video about the the government if it was taken war step. and they said, all of the government will actually give these very strong paul to signals. and then okay, let me just let me know know, let me give you a quick, quickly re to because i do want to, i do want to wrap up with can be, are, but go ahead though i completely disagree with that approach. you know, not, no program has succeeded unless you think all the state was on board. and i would

disagree that if civil society and industry would have been taken on board, they would have, you know, the fact i wrote them succeeded because in the 1st 2nd, because industrial. and so let me see and can i get your committee to be let me ask you ok, can there let me ask you something. i know you do you know that in the us i'm climate change is an extremely politicized issue. and the policy changes, depending on who the president is. this like president trump roll back a lot of promises that brock obama may have politicized as this issue in india. major modi's not going to be prime minister forever or these goals that will be carried forward. but so far, it's not really a very political issue in india for, for most people, air pollution is a bigger issue than, than climate change is in terms of perception. so yeah, and that's, and that's not a major political issue, but it probably will become a major political issue as we see more and more impacts of the yielded almost

everyone in the country will be back to it. so it may become a major political issue. so yeah, that is a major problem. but again, one of the things that i think we've missed discussing shield is also in which is related to what we have said about finance. that it is imperative that the developed countries delivered on finance at cop $26.00. they haven't delivered yet on their commitments on the bad as agreement. and it's vital for countries developing countries, including india, india find itself in a very complicated situation. it is all, it is a g 20 country. it also has the largest number of poor people in the country in the world, and it takes energy to lift them out of poverty. exactly. so india, india has to grow in india. he cannot mean that of the per capita income in certain parts of india is lower than almost every part of the world. so india has to continue to grow. that is it's prime objective. we have to lift people out about if you have to ensure that nobody in yes would insecure. that should be that because

the basics are not being met. so that is something that we have to meet 1st. and that is something that the world should not lose sight of and which is why it's crucial delivered on finance. yes, i right, i can, there were or about out of time by bob i you, i'll let you add to that if you'd like. well i can, i completely agree with the company and also uh, you know, finance is absolutely critical as i can. all of us are on the same page with that. also on the stick with the right thing that come together with no disagreement dogwood that the question is all about. how many stakeholders, what kind of stakeholder then for what purpose, right? to the moment the next step is to be getting to 2nd 2nd. and that is really weird. the roll off. we noticed you all listening for some football from all the sectors. and you know what? i don't think i should be. i mean the us, the equivalent tradition already haven't even been there. deal all general have to be the final word though. thank you. could be or are guar re to how her what our watch in vijay charts of betty. thank you and all so much for talking about is

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