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stay with us. ah . the libyan revolution brought down one of the 10 years ago. now his son is running for president. what are safe? al islam get off his chances and we'll december's election unite will create more divisions in libya. this is inside store. ah hello there and welcome to the program i missed audio tape. and now libby as arab spring revolution, 10 years ago, toppled a long time leader,
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warmer gadhafi. what followed was a decade of chaos and violence. warring militia is backed by foreign powers, including russia and turkey, split the country into the un now hopes that elections due next month will help restore stability and the gadhafi name as back in the spotlight. mormon, good off. you son has now registered to run for president, save al islam or traditional libyan robe and turban. as his late father did. he'd been out of the public eye for much of the past decade. but in an interview with the new york times back in july, he hinted at a presidential run to restore unity to libya. so if al islam get off, he is mom a good off. his 2nd son, educated in london and vienna, many libyans and people in the west saw him as a reformer, you advocated for democracy. then in 2011 public opinion changed as he took part in the crackdown by his father's regime. he was captured by 5 as soon afterwards, but eventually released 6 years later, safe al islam good. elsie is still wanted,
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though, by the international criminal court for alleged crimes against humanity during the 2011 revolution. human rights watch says, libby and authorities must arrest him and hand him over despite him registering as the presidential candidate out there is liberty correspondent malik. trina has moved after years of hiding and out of public view, safely, flanagan duffy emerged in the city of sub how to apply for president. now he was wearing the traditional outfit of southern libya in that brown color. much like much like his father was wearing in his famous speech in 2011 where mom or get duffy threat in protesters. you know, he said we, he was going to purify the libyans, the, the libyan rats, as he called them, who were protesting for freedom and democracy as youngest son. good dog. while margaret daffy said in that famous speech room by room street by street, he was going to purify these people from the country are so safe this time. what
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does this mean for safer to run for president at this time? well, he's a very divisive figure. you know, he's also wanted by the international criminal court for crimes against humanity, including the tax on civilians and an attack on peaceful protesters. and we're already seeing the effect take place. we're starting to see some reaction in western libya, but mostly that reaction is coming from the constitutional framework. so according to a previous agreement, a constitutional framework has to be agreed upon by the various legislative sides. that still hasn't happened yet. so what does that mean? well, who can run for president? what kind of powers those are president, have these are, you know, questions that remained to be agreed upon or solved by the various sides. so now it was safe appearance and back into political view. we're seeing people in western libya, especially in western libya. you know, tribal leaders, civilian leaders,
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military leaders, calling for the boycott of these elections until a framework, a constitutional framework is agreed upon. while the head of libya as presidency council says, it doesn't matter who runs in the election as long as the vote takes place is scheduled on december 24th nap nolan, nutler, and we are not worried about any particularly been getting elected will not worry about having any particular person that the law says feed to the clinicians. on the contrary, there should be a chance given to everyone who's electoral conditions apply. we should have been agreed upon by the libyan people and the legislative bodies responsible for these laws. ah, let's now bring in our guests in doha, we have use of foreign dell. he is a professor of political science and international relations. and council university in assemble, we have on us al demonte, he's the director of the study institute then and in paris, mustafah for tory, a journalist on the can, and a contributor to the middle east monitor. thank you,
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gentlemen, for joining us today. welcome to the program at now i see after 10 years of silence as a fall, islam in his big new york times interview. he talks about coming back with this or a mystery, almost like a like a strip tease of sorts. and now we, it seems to see in the big reveal, i'm curious because he looks like quite the changed man. he used to favor a lot more western european clothing. we seen him now registered and very traditional robes. and mr. i know very little has been hired from in the, from the public. certainly for all these years. is he a changed man? well, certainly sir. just see if you, you know, take into account the fact that he has been over a decade in isolation and completely got to from the outside world, or without his family, without his close friends and associates. snap with have changed anybody. and he also face to get them okay by you court back in 2015. and there were even
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suspicion if he was in her life or not. and there was a baltic sound broadly, a little bit more about the tribe or quiz actual in which she might play in the near future. i think he's also changed man, he has been more than a couple of thing bought into consideration proceeds with between tribes, russia in the city of summer, just 2 weeks ago successfully between is trying to live stream and their close friends are alive throughout history in terms of you know, the libyan public view of him. i think it has changed as well because they see and i was some guy and the for the savior, a few lie because what has been happening in the country itself, or these are just a few boys that indicate he is a changed man. deed,
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regardless of the kinds of probes are close, he has put on to come out for the 1st time publicly life man, i do want to take into what kind of a man he is, and how might that affect his support, how he might potentially govern if he won, he went to the london school of economics, he was considered a reformer and back in london in 2003, i believe that was when he was asked what libya needed most. he said democracy. and he said that was because his country at the time didn't have any real democracy, but then in 2011 him back to his father. so honest, what happened? well, it's not safe the reformer. so if the performer and the seattle of the last 24 hours confirmed that very little is changed. if it is, let me get duffy. he chose to wear the clothes that his father wore. 10 years ago, when he gave his infamous babbling to see the speech, when he threatened to exterminate the population of been, does he this is not, amanda has changed. it's amanda has let the tricks of performance. this is also
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someone understands ruled by one man and ruled by tried. that is not something that lydia haven't seen before. libyans have lived experience that for many, many years. you can certainly find friends around the corner in some ways only as now. and i'm sure you'll find friends that once i adopt that tribal closing, or that once a hawk back to the era. but today, libya needs a consensus figure some of the ones that turn that chapter over and we're in the, the clothes that your father wore when you threatens the libyan population is not something that indicates you're a consensus figure that indicates your device to figure that will finish with this . it's the mother of all ironies that today separate as i'm is trying to exercise his democratic rights to pursue presidential bait and campaign against the very system that him and his father chose to, brutally prime, put down as a movement during the february 17th revolution. this is amanda chose to go. busy with his father and against the libyan people against his own rhetoric in the years
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that he was at the l. a. c. and tried to and so as to try to put down a pro democracy movement. and today is trying to exploit that system at his most. busy vulnerable and he has had friends over the last several years, haven't been living completely legislation go to bloomberg in 2019. at the peak of the civil war and tripoli, he was visited by you. russians who were later, abducted and arrested, and tripoli. and when they were interrogated, it was realized that they were in contact with it for the son who was intrigued by russian capabilities in manipulating elections. he's been planning this for some time where just the latest on the well, i want to get to some of the international connection in a moment, but as you say on us he, there was a crack down. but before the crack down, he did have very close ties to a lot of the protest leaders. a lot of the people in that movement. i recall also algebra spoke to him back in 2011 and it struck me when i was watching it today. just how much he disavowed those people. let's take a lesson on the 1st,
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there's been used to go with it with costing me more freedom when democracy, electric. i said this many, many times. but this is happened because then now you have an uprising now. fighting. now you have people who wants to split the country east and west. they want to get 3 or 4 states. now you have people who are fine or people. now you have terrorists, you have militia. now the picture is different weight, but surprises. next it is. you will see what happens, the libyan people, they walk up from the shock, they realize everything, and now they are acting on fighting back. and you will see what would happen in the, in the next day. you. so what do you make of that rhetoric? one of the things up the safe and islam has been talking about democracy, finding human rights and so on and so forth. for a long time. he was, he had this project because a lot of 22 models, the b. well, he had
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a vision for a d b, that is the video that is completely different from the past. he was full what of the thinking and so when and so forth. he was instrumental in the bring in the 2 d b a. so many opponents of his father was the genes he played, and he didn't own a nice in politics, placement and so on and so forth. but like if you're a guest from the board said, i think good the say for these clubs one for the was to make a very, very have choice between the libyan people and his family or his father. and even though he was talking about democracy and freedom and so on. and so what, what, what did you see during this particular interview, you will just hold. but when he came to the, in the choice,
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he sided with the father. obviously, in my opinion, the choice of clothing yesterday when he made his candidacy for the presidential election in my view, wasn't a good one because it thinks about the images of the duffy in bob allows his ear, but he also wanted to show the libyan people also that he is a changed man. he is wearing the produce more clothes. he is going a little a be and what struck me most is that the, the, all over the session, he did not give a proper speech, but he just quoted something from a deep caught on it all. the way i looked at it is he studied the living people and i have a changed man. i am ready for the man. god is my witness,
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but we'll go into the things. i'll tell you the things in the right way. you so you say that he made a choice, so that was that moment back in 2011, which really felt like a major turning point now. so this time he gave that speech nationally televised speech a lot of people actually at the time, i recall thought that he was actually going to announce that he was taking over from his father. but instead he said this, let's play the script. so now the come home, some advice, 1000000 people would take up, arms were not, egypt were not to nicea, we will all have weapons, blood will flow, rivers of blood in all the cities of libya and the sofa. was that a prediction? was that a threat? oh, a 100 percent record to prediction answer unfortunately to true. very true. we are be living it since 2011 until today, and i if i just go back
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a little bit to touch on the what, what dennis have said, from the stumble about the russian friends who saved that visited him last year and there were abducted in cancer it didn't, rebellion interrogated to confess that they are something, you know, some kind of rush, an agent there. i have to, you know, clarify this. i investigated the story truly, truly, truly and most school. and i know a true contacts and most school, the organization, the civil organization, non governmental organization. and most could that send the book the to researchers . and they have the permission from the government to libya, and especially from mr. holiday missouri was the chairman of the supreme council of state to really say release them. and they already told tribble utility at the time what they're doing, why they're visiting him. and they're the, the, the, the, the libby liturgy at the time, or change their mind afterwards because they wanted to blackmail russia into
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something else. something different that has to do with stopping, supporting mas out there. and there's going to take to be by for having said that, i think we have made too much was about the, the, the, the, the kind of a 1000000000 safe made yesterday, you know, in terms of clothes. and i don't think there's much to read about. yes. you know, why should the, why should the bottom civilian or wrong western like how i do one thing and i think he's just on the international implications and international backing on potential candidates and a selection. so as you mentioned, russia, they're indeed potentially think that safe is going to have a lot of packing from. so going forward. yes. moment of patience though, just to clarify what must have a was saying about those russians that the peak of a civil war. when the new york times, bloomberg reuters all reported on russian mercenaries and smokers, firing in and against civilians living landmines,
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and destroying of displacing hundreds of thousands from southern neighborhoods. in tripoli, there were 2 members of the russians, russian civil society. that's a, that's a lot more than times i'm. it doesn't even exist. the idea that these 2 individuals are walking around, no friends, the grand prairie, much or i am i the stroke my friend a college done bursley gentlemen. i, i, i really don't want to get too far in teddy is to rush and men. i'd like to focus on gal wally, online courses. as things take though you can keep selling was the but i'm not buying or i think anyone else is boy. the new york times and bloomberg and stanford university, he also published those reports. you can find them online, they're not buying. so it has been the case that they have been supporting surplus . lemme and that today. that's what elections mean. elections don't mean only a serious test of public opinion as what they meant in 2011. they mean are online movements that can be manipulated in social and political sentiment that can be
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manipulated, manufactured the idea that popularity is something that you can hold in your hand and put in your pocket is a myth. it's something that is curated, it's wipe and, and it's fashioned. and that's what, that's why over the last 24 hours, we can see our social media end of year, a massive, massive uptick in unorganized traffic and things trickling down through civil society and to libya, trying to get traction for civil lamb and trying to push his agenda on to live in people just the iconography alone. i can also just the final asked about what he chose to were. it wasn't one that was the only thing left in his closet had a bit more sense than that. and what was the one i had, i want to bring you self in hand, because we obviously know that there had been at me huge amounts of international involvement in libya, particularly the concrete or the last few years. and it's evident that say, father's law blames the us for much of what happened since 2011. and we will say, seen huge involvement from turkey, the u. e and russia we've been talking about. so use us. who do you think is
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backing, say fall islam. now do you think, do you agree with us? it, is it moscow? well, i think most school is one of the major players the lead in say for the slow. but i think to a very large extent the situation will be played inside your guest from to put the light in bulk in about social media and so on and so forth. but this is not just for the case of d. b a. we've seen elections manipulated between inverted commas in, even in the u. k. for instance, one of the different political parties tried the to defeat the conservative candidates. one multi bed came a store the, as a candidates, we sold the reports in the united states about that all the facebook in the, in the trumps and actions. these things happen. and they're not necessarily about
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really b up, in particular, the build fee of some kind of legitimate between inverted commas tactics to get people elected. but the fact that safer is, is the, is but, and i believe that he has a very good chance of winning because let's see it this way. over the last 10 years, there has been a revolution against a cardinal duffy what the result did are so many economy and social problems, we didn't the be up to dead. the country is almost divided and we saw about what was done over the last 3 weeks. when the libyan fall minister was removed from office or the different, the different reactions to the government and the national council and so on. and
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so fault that the instability at the moment in libya. and so many people buy it by perhaps longing. but i would venture to say the longing but the old days of, for the buffy, at least in terms of stability. and in terms of the social economic problem, they see safe and islam. so that's somebody who has been involved in these particular policies, especially over the 1st years of the new millennium. he now was the company quite well. he was the different he worked on so many cases for his father. i would say he has 5 years of both french, british american involvement, which he can use as a bargaining chip. ok. ringback sorry i do want to bring in with staffing here
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because i do believe that safety team has been also reaching out to me the stuff ahead of his presidential bid. i'm curious as to what you make of his john says i see from one poll, i mean, i know polling is patchy to say the least, but one poll suggested that in one southern region, 57 percent of people say that they support him. is that given that libby is such a fragment, had country, does that hold true across the country? more or less i would say has to be reaching out to me for you know, just consultation issues you know about the different kinds of things that have to do with their conciliation among tribes. olivia. but what i've said about the disability claim, it's quite a, quite a global inside the country if you like. in the i give him in the 1st round around 45 percent to 50 percent, but he will not. if he owns this, of course, he will not make it out right. and there will be a 2nd, a 2nd drawn to for voting,
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i guess. and that's where he will when i give you another example, maybe we don't have the, you know, precise numbers in terms of the balls. and you know, that, that you could, you could actually referred to. but, you know, just judging by, you know, following social media platforms, libby and social media platforms, you could see it in terms of, you know, in cities like many when you didn't or one and a smaller city, you know, like our more to most of us to publish is not there and the quite the, the southern west of the country, i think is the borders on 65 percent. you know, just as yesterday. and the same goes to southern parts and western by west amounts of tripoli as well. he might not chief that trigger inside to be itself or by monday, but i do expect him to when really different why support is enjoy. now i think
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