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the libyan revolution brought down one mcduffy 10 years ago. now his son is running for president. what are safe al islam get off. he's johnson, will decembers election unite will create more divisions in libya. this is inside store. ah. hello there and welcome to the program. i'm miss darcy tay. now libby as arabs spring revolution 10 years ago, toppled a long time leader mcduffy. what followed was a decade of chaos and violence. warring militia is backed by foreign powers,
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including russia and turkey, split the country into the u. n. now hope that elections do next month will help restore stability and the gadhafi name as back in the spotlight. mom and get off his son has now registered to run for president, says al islam or traditional libyan robe and turban. as his late father did. he'd been out of the public eye for much of the past decade. but in an interview with the new york times back in july, he hinted at a presidential run to restore unity to libya. so if alice, i'm good off, he is mom a good off. he's a 2nd son, educated in london and vienna. many libyans and people in the west saw him as a reformer, you advocated for democracy. then in 2011 public opinion changed as he took part in the crackdown by his father's regime. he was captured by 5 as soon afterwards, but eventually released 6 years later, safe al islam good. elsie is still wanted though, by the international criminal court for alleged crimes against humanity during the 2011 revolution. human rights watch says,
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libby and authorities must arrest him and hand him over despite him registering as the presidential candidate out of here is liberty correspondent, malik. trina has moved after years of hiding and out of public view, safely slammed the good duffy immersed in the city of sub how to apply for president. now he was wearing the traditional outfit of southern libya in that brown color. much like much like his father was wearing in his famous speech in 2011 where mom or get duffy threaten protesters. you know, he said he was going to purify the libyans, the libyan rats, as he called them, were protesting for freedom and democracy as youngest son. good dog. while margaret daffy said in that famous speech room by room street by street, he was going to purify these people from the country are so safe this time. what does this mean for safer to run for president at this time? well, he's a very divisive figure. you know,
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he's also wanted by the international criminal court for crimes against humanity, including the tax on civilians and, and the tax on peaceful protesters. and we're already seeing the effect take place . we're starting to see some reaction in western libya, but mostly that reaction is coming from the constitutional framework. so according to a previous agreement, a constitutional framework has to be agreed upon by the various legislative sides. that still hasn't happened yet. so what does that mean? well, who can run for president? what kind of powers those are president, have these are, you know, questions that remained to be agreed upon or solved by the various sides. so now it was safe appearance and back into political view. we're seeing people in western libya, especially western libya, tribal leaders, civilian leaders, military leaders, calling for the boycott of these elections until a framework, a constitutional framework is agreed upon. while the head of libya,
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his presidency council says it doesn't matter who runs in the election as long as the vote takes place is scheduled on december 24th nap. nolan, nutler and we are not worried about any particularly been getting elected will not worry about having any particular person that the law says feed to the clinicians. on the contrary, there should be a chance given to everyone who is electoral conditions apply. we should have been agreed upon by the libyan people and the legislative bodies responsible for these laws. ah, let's not bring in our guests in doha. we have use of for and l. he is a professor of political science and international relations and counsel university in assemble. we have on us al demonte, he's the director of the study institute then and in paris, mustafah for tory, a journalist on the can, and a contributor to the middle east monitor. thank you gentlemen, for joining us today. welcome to the program at now i see after 10 years of silence
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as a phallus lamb in his big new york times interview, he talks about coming back with this or a mystery. almost like a like a strip tease of sorts. and now we, it seems is in the big reveal i'm, i'm curious because he looks like quite the changed man. he used to favor a lot more western european clothing. we've seen him now registered and very traditional robes, and mr. i know very little has been heard from in the, from the public. certainly for all these years. is he a changed man? well, certainly sir. just see if you, you know, take into account the fact that he has been over a decade in isolation and completely got to from the outside world, or without his family, without his close friends and associates. snap with have changed anybody. and he also face to get them okay by you court back in 2015. and there were even suspicion if he was in her life or not. and them as
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a bother. think sound broadly in a little bit more about the tribe or quiz. actual in which you might play in the near future. i think he's also changed. man, here has been more than a couple of thing bought into consideration proceeds with between tribes, russia in the city of summer, just to 2 weeks ago successfully between s tribe random bloodstream and their close friends are alive throughout history. in terms of, you know, the libyan bubble give you film. i think it has changed as well because they see and i was some guy and the for the savior, a few lie because what has been happening in the country itself, or these are just a few boys that indicate he is a changed man. deed, regardless of the kinds of prob, so clothes he has put on to come out for the 1st time publicly, life, man,
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i do want to take it into what kind of a man he is, and how might that affect his support, how he might potentially govern if he won, he went to the london school of economics, he was considered a reformer. and back in london in 2003, i believe that was when he was asked what libya needed most. he said democracy. and he said that was because his country at the time didn't have any real democracy, but then in 2011, he backed his father. so honest, what happened? let us look safe, the reformer. it saves the performer and the theatrics of the last 24 hours confirmed that very little has changed my safe and a slim mcduffy. he chose to wear the clothes that his father wore 10 years ago when he gave his infamous babble. i see that i see a speech where he threatened to exterminate the population, a pen gosti. this is not a man that has changed. it's a man that has like the ar and tricks a performance. this is also someone that understands rule by one man and rule by tried. that is not something that libyans haven't seen before. libyans have lived
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and experienced that for many, many years. he can certainly find friends around the corner in some her way certainly is now, and i'm sure you'll find friends that want to adopt that tribal clothing all at once, a hawk back to that era. but today, libya needs a consensus figure. someone that wants to turn that chapter over and wearing the, the clothes that your father wore when you threatened the libyan population is not something that indicates you're a consensus figure. indicates your device to figure that will finish with this. it's the mother of all ironies that today, so far as i am a good duffy is trying to exercise his democratic rights to pursue a presidential bed and campaign against the very system that him and his father chose to, brutally prime, put down as a movement during the february 17th revolution, this is a man the truck chose to go. busy with his father and against the libyan people against his own rhetoric in the years that he was at the l. a. c. and tried to and chose to try to put down a pro democracy movement. and today is trying to exploit that system at his most.
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busy vulnerable and he has had friends over the last several years. he hasn't been living completely, my selection go to bloomberg in 2019. at the peak of the civil war in tripoli. he was visited. but you russians who were later, abducted and arrested, and tripoli. and when they were interrogated, it was realized that they were in contact with them for the some good that he was intrigued by russian capabilities in manipulating elections. he's been planning this for some time where just the latest on the oven. well, i want to get to sanity international connection in a moment, but as you say on us, he, there was a crack down. but before the crack down, he did have very close ties to a lot of the protest leaders. a lot of the people in that movement, i recall also algebra. i spoke to him back in 2011 and it struck me when i was watching it today. just how much he disavowed those people. let's take a lesson on the new to go. it will go to should read more freedom when a democracy, electric i said this many, many times,
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but not this is happened because then now you have an uprising fighting. now you have people who wants to split the country east and west. they want to get 3 or 4 states. now you have people who are terrifying or people. now you have terrorists, you have militia. now the picture is different weight, but surprises. next this, you will see what would happen, the libyan people. they walk up from the shock. they realize every think. now they are acting on fighting back and you will see what would happen in the, in the, in the next day. you. so what do you make of that rhetoric? what are the things up the safe and islam has been talking about democracy and human rights and so on and so forth. for a long time. he was, he had this project because the be a lot of 22 models. the be, well, he had a vision for a d, b. that is the video that is completely different from the past. he
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was full what of the thinking and so on. and so forth. he was instrumental in the bring in the 2 d b a. so many opponents of his father was the genes he played. and he didn't own a niece in politics, placement, and so on and so forth. but like if you're a guest from the board said, i think good the say for the slums by one for the was to make a very, very have choice between the libyan people and his family or his father. and even though he was talking about democracy and freedom and so on. and so what, what, what did you see during this particular interview? we'll just hold. but when he came to the, in the choice, he sided with the father. obviously, in my opinion, the choice of clothing yesterday when he
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made his candidacy for the presidential election in my view wasn't a good one because it thinks about the images of the conduct. the in bub allows his e up. but he also wanted to show the libyan people also that he is a changed man. he is wearing the produce more clothes. he is going a little a be and what struck me most is that the, the, all over the session, he did not give a pulpit of speech, but he just quoted something from a deep caught on it all. the way i looked at it is he studied the living people that i have a changed man. i am ready for god is my witness that will go into the things. i will tell you the things in the right way. you so he said that he made a choice,
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so that was that moment back in 2011, which really felt like a major turning point now. so if it's time he gave that speech nationally televised speech, a lot of people actually at the time, i recall thought that he was actually going to announce that he was taking over from his father. but instead he said this, let's play this clip. so now the come home submit, $5000000.00 people would take up, arms were not, egypt were not to nicea, we will all have weapons, blood will flow, rivers of blood in all the cities of libya and the sofa. was that a prediction? was that a threat? oh, a 100 percent. that goes to the diction. unfortunately, it's a true very true. we have been living it since 2011 until today. and i, if i just go back a little bit to touch on the what, what dennis have said from the stand boone about the russian friends who saved that
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visited him last year and there were abducted in cancer. it didn't, rebellion interrogated to confess that they are something, you know, some kind of rush, an agent there. i have to, you know, clarify this. i investigated the story truly, truly, truly and most school. and i know a true contacts and most school, the organization, the civil organization, non governmental organization. and most could that send the book the to researchers . and they had the permission from the government to libya, and especially from mr. helen murray was the chairman of the supreme council of state, 270 slam, and they already told tribble utility at the time what they're doing, why they're visiting him. and they're the, the, the libby liturgy at the time, change their mind afterwards because they wanted to blackmail russia into something else, something different that has to do with stopping,
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supporting mas out there. and there's going to take to be by for having said that, i think we have made too much was about the, the, the, the, the kind of abuse safe made yesterday, you know, in terms of clothes. and i don't think there's much to read about. yes, you know, why should the, why should the bottom civilian or wrong western like how i do one thing and i thing here just on the, the international implications and international backing on potential candidates and the selection. so as you mentioned, russia there, do you potentially think that safe is going to have a lot of packing for now? go going forward. yeah, moment of patience though, just to clarify on what most of the was saying about those russians at the peak of a civil war when the new york times bloomberg reuters all reported on russian mercenaries and slippers firing in and against civilians living land mines and destroying a displacing hundreds of thousands from southern neighborhoods and tripoli,
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there were 2 members of the russians, russian civil society. that's a, that's a, an oxymoron in terms i mean doesn't even exist. the idea that these 2 individuals are walking around forensic registry very much, or i am at the stroke. my friend i published diversity, gentlemen, i, i, i really don't want to get too far in teddy is to rush and men. i'd like to focus on gun wally online courses or that as things take though you can keep selling was the but i'm not buying or i think anyone else is boy the new york times and bloomberg and stanford university. he also published those reports. you can find them online, they're not buying. so it has been the case that they have been supporting surplus . lemme. and that to date, that's what elections mean. elections don't mean only a serious test of public opinion as what they meant in 2011. they mean are online movements that can be manipulated in social and political sentiment that can be manipulated and manufactured. the idea that popularity is something that you can hold in your hand and put in your pocket is a myth. it's something that is curated,
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it's wiping, and it's fashioned. and that's what, that's why over the last 24 hours, we can see of social media in libya. a massive, massive uptick in unorganized traffic and things trickling down through civil society and to libya, trying to get traction for civil islam and tried to push his agenda on to live in people just the iconography alone. i can also do the final asked about what he chose to were. it wasn't one that was the only thing left to disclose. it had a bit more sense than that. and what was the one i had? i want to bring you self in hand because we obviously know that there had been at me huge amounts of international involvement in libya, particularly the contractor, the laskey. and it's evidence that say, father's law blames the us for much of what happened since 2011. and then we will say seeing huge involvement from turkey, b, e and russia we've been talking about. so use of who do you think is backing so far as lamb now do you think, do you agree with us? is it moscow? well, i think most school is one of the major players the lead in
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say for the slum. but i think to a very large extent the situation will be played inside your guest from triple the is right in bulk, in about social media and so on and so forth. but this is not just for the case of for the b, we've seen elections, money predicted between relative commas in, even in the u. k. for instance, when the different political parties tried the to defeat the conservative candidates, one multi bed came stored as a candidates, we sold the reports, united states about that all the facebook in the, in the trumps. it actions these things happen. and they're not necessarily about really b up, in particular, the build fee with some kind of legitimate between both the commas tactics to get
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people elected. but the fact that safer is, is the. ready is but, and i believe that he has very good chance of winning because let's see it this way. over the last 10 years, there has been a revolution against a cardinal cut. duffy, what are the results, get out so many economy and social problems. we didn't the be up to then the country is almost divided and we saw about what instance over the last 3 weeks when the libyan fall minister the was removed from office or the dividend to the different reactions to the government and the national council. and so on and so fault that the instability at the moment in libya. and so many people buy it by perhaps long in but i
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would venture to say the longing, but the old days affordable. duffy at least in terms of stability. and in terms of the social economic problems they see safety is that somebody who has been involved in these particular policies, especially over the 1st years of the new millennium. he now was the company quite well. he was the different he worked on so many cases for his father. i would say he had 5 years of both french, british american involvement, which he didn't use as a bargaining chip. ok. sorry i do want to bring in with staffing here because i do believe that safe l. s. team has been also reaching out to me the stuff ahead of his presidential bid. i'm curious as to what you make of his chances. i see from
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one poll, i mean, i know polling is patchy to say the least, but one poll suggested that in one southern region, 57 percent of people say that they support him. is that given that libya such a fragment had country does not hold true across the country? more or less i would say has to be reaching out to me for you know, just go station issues, you know, about the different kinds of things that have to do with the reconciliation among tribes, olivia. but what you have said about the disability claim, it's quite a, quite a global inside the country if you like. in the i give him in the 1st round, the wrong 45 percent to 50 percent, but he will not. if he runs of course, he will not make it outright and there will be a 2nd, a 2nd drawn to for voting, i guess. and that's where he will when i give you another example,
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maybe we don't have but you know, precise numbers in terms of the balls and you know, that you could, you could actually referred to but, you know, just judging by, you know, follow social media platforms. debbie and social media platforms, you could see it, you know, in terms of, you know, and cities like, by the way, it and their own and the smaller cities, you know, like our most, most of us to publish is still not there. and the quite the, the southern west of the country. i think his subordinate zone, 65 percent, you know, just as yesterday. and the same goes to southern parts and western bio west amounts of tripoli as well. he might not cheap that trigger inside to be itself or biology, but i do expect him to one really different why support is enjoy. now i think about garage and support. i mean, the russians never actually accept expressed support to any lube in political vigor
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or marty, but they did indeed receive coverage for a voice from mr. sega sam. yes, i do want to move on because we, we do wanted again finally to what this, what implications as might have for libya. and there is a man who we haven't yet discussed and kill if i have to. and he's also running the president. so honest, let me ask you this. i know the same many foreign leaders, united nations very keen cities elections to take place as scheduled and descended that could they actually potentially actually cause more division then create more stability and unity going forward? absolutely. i mean the central government, so a precipitous flemister for phillip after its eastern libya enclave in the russian man there been gussy. and in the revolutionary camp, i would say the anti half their camp more expressly is in triple a tenure. you have a mexican standoff. i mean, that's just a terrible lawyer as it is. secondly, the perception of the elections as they're not going to be free and fair. they're not going to be credible. we're at 5 weeks away from, from elections. not
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a single one of those candidates has come out and actually campus. so for the slams to speeches that include references, the strip tease and then stitching together multiple versions of the koran. so there are no intelligible. so and then you also have clip after he was supposed to be going for elections, but yeah, hasn't already thrown his her in for the candidacy yet. so with 5 weeks left to elections and not having spoken to your people, people don't believe that part of the process. they don't believe that that process will be free and fair. incredible. if that is the case and the perception holds. i don't think they'll respect the outcome and even if one of those candidates came up with multi percent or 80 percent or the 45 that must have mentioned, they're not consensus figures. they're not gonna bridge those. the voice there is an existential threat there. all 3 of those camps view by the other and the only way to go. busy through that is the reconciliation process, and it's actually trying to put those things on the line that i don't believe any of those candidates today have the guts to do. while it's going to be a certainly a controversial a few weeks ahead. we'll have to leave it there there for now. thanks. in the
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