decide what action if any should be taken mentioned. nadine baba al jazeera london balanced with some who a cherry in the u. s. is expected to continue deliberations in the murder trial of kyle written house. he's the teenager accused of shooting protest as in wisconsin. last year, 2 people were killed during a black lives matter demonstration, the 18 year old claims he acted in self defense. in spain, a man is reported to have died in an exclusion zone, around interrupting volcano. on the island of la paloma the 72 year old was found dead in his home. the cause isn't yet clear. he'd been reported missing on friday. residents have been allowed to enter the zone to retrieve personal items. the volcanoes been spewing lava and ash, since mid september expert said the erection could last another month. ah, it is good to have you with us. hello, adrian said, gonna hear it though, how the headlines on al jazeera la hor and pakistan has been named the most

polluted city in the world. people are urging the government that to save them from the western air quality and in new delhi and neighboring india. schools and colleges have been shot indefinitely due to small order from. i'll hider in islamabad this time of day. yeah. people are burning that jobs are on the agricultural farms and plus the fact that vague your lead traffic as in creed. and i've gotten contributing to over 40 percent of the pollution and deteriorating air quality. also, people are not able to go out into the box anymore. our industrial pollution is also a factor and the fact that a lot of the garbage is burned openly, but there had been annoyed wisely from the government as far as school, then work rated are concerned. and it is. i've got an alarming situation. the u. s

. secretary of states is to you to meet kenny as president in nairobi as part of a diplomatic push to bring peace to ethiopia. it's fed the year long conflict with rebels from little them to guy region, a spiral into a civil war. thousands of refugees and migrants on the poland. baler is paula. have spent another night sleeping in makeshift camps in freezing conditions on tuesday, police and poland, 5 water canon and tear gas. but those trying to cross holland accuses bella luce, of pushing migrants to the border. and using them as a weapon, our media says that's agreed, a cease fire with as a by john, following a day of violence that left at least 15 soldiers dead on many as defense ministry says that russia helped broke of the truce. it asked moscow to help defend its territory against as every forces as a by john and accused armenia of provocation, armenia and azerbaijan. foot a $44.00 day war last year over the disputed territory of not gonna cut back. i lose the headlights, that he's continues here. on al jazeera,

after the days edition of inside story next, if america held up a mirror to itself, what would it see in a sense, race is the story of america what's working and what's not, why people were only talking about that. it wasn't at the top of the agenda if america can't handle multiple challenges on multiple fronts, we need to go back to school. the bottom line on al jazeera, friends, not phones, the presidents of the us and china, hold on virtual summit. try to reset frosty relations. did they succeed? more message to the send to the rest of the world? this is inside, sorry. ah . hello and welcome to the program. i'm rob madison. relations between the world. 2

leading superpowers have been described as fraught tense and strained. china in the united states disagree on many issues, including trade, human rights and the rule of law. but their leaders seemed to be trying to find ways to cooperate, such as a recent agreement on climate change. president joe biden, and she, jim pang of held their 1st virtual summit to try to resolve their differences. 3 are meeting produced. no breakthroughs, at least not publicly, but both sides called it an opportunity to repair ties. our white house correspondent, kimberly hawkins reports. the leaders of the world's 2 biggest economies sat face to face for the 1st time using their virtual summit as a way to reset points of tension in their relationship. we need to establish a common sense guard rails, to be clear and honest, where we disagree in work together. we're interest intersect, especially on vital global issues like climate change. for years, the united states is accused china of economic and defense provocations that

include disrupting global training practices that hurt american businesses. more recently, stepping up military incursions near taiwan. president joe biden said recently, the u. s. would defend taiwan in any conflict. but in tuesday summit, he also told the chinese president, the u. s. was committed to a one china policy and opposed any change in taiwan status. president, she shouldn't pig referred to by them as an old friend. same china and the u. s. need to increase communication and cooperation. domain in national syndrome. china in the united states should respect each other coexistence piece and pursued cooperation to move. all but respect between the 2 countries has been challenging the united states a ledgers. chinese government is miss treating chinese muslims,

known as wiggers, and has protested the crackdown on pro democracy demonstrators in hong kong. jo biden's, popularity is sagging domestically in the polls, but he went into his conversation, wishing, paying fresh from a legislative victory, signing into law a $1.00 trillion dollar infrastructure overhaul. the biden says, we'll create jobs and allow the united states to compete with china in the 21st century. there was some speculation she would invite bite into the winter olympics in beijing in february, which some members of congress want him to avoid. but according to officials, the subject never came up in all the summer, produce no major announcements, but instead was designed to de escalate geo political tensions for the us and china are able to stabilize their relationship and avoid destabilizing the entire world.

kimberly, how can al jazeera the white house? well, the view from china was quite different. the english language services of state media highlighted cheating, pains calls for mutual respect, peace and co operation. katrina hugh has more from beijing. beijing has described the meeting as fruitful and constructive and said that it opened doors for future communication. and chinese state media said that it was reassuring to the international community that these 2 superpowers were trying to manage that differences. now president union pain went into this meeting, wanting to appear strong and wanting to defend china's interest. and he did that, i think in 2 areas. first in trade, he said that he wanted to fast track economic exchanges between the 2 countries. and he wanted joe biden against using security issues to suppress chinese companies . now the 2nd topic where he did this was in regards to taiwan, which is arguably the most important topic for beijing. she's in ping wanted joe

biden, that any support of taiwan independence would be played with fire and bade ching says in return, the us promise to abide by the one china principal and not support taiwan independence. if you contrast the early of meeting we had in alaska between the 2 sides and meeting full of harsh language, hostile torrance. we've had now this meeting between door biden and she didn't ping which opened with friendly smiles. with waves of the hand and with even a sheet and ping referring to joe biden as an old friend. so because of those reasons, we've seen that this meeting has this been perceived as a successful which setting of ties or resetting of the torn between the 2 countries . ah, okay, let's bring in our guests in beijing, we wrote victor gow, who's chair professor of suture university in washington dc. hydro claim,

former us deputy assistant secretary of defense for east asia. and in our slow glen decent professor of international relations of the university of south eastern nor we welcome gentlemen to the program glen. i'd like to ask you 1st. as we've heard relations between these 2 countries were extremely poor. but in just a matter of a few days, we've had an agreement and climate change. now we have this apparently very cordial, public meeting. what do you think is driving this change in emphasis? oh, i think that ha, and the years attempted to reverse what has become the most important development in international system, which is not china, is it quickly becoming the most powerful state while the u. s. is in relative the climb. so for that reason, i think china seas, the time is on its side. meanwhile, united states that the reverse is, which has resulted in both military and economic conflicts, are given that china has pushed back as well as kind of the test but its limits. i,

i think both countries have a common interest in not allowing this to get out of control. but that being said, i think it is simply because the u. s. is the compton relative to connie has more incentives to challenge. what is the status quo? victor glancing there, that essentially the china has this that says in a strengthening position and the u. s. is now at a disadvantage. do you think that that is what has motivated president teaching ping's acceptance of this public meeting with joe biden? though i think her president joe biden, and present she can be of china. they knew each other well for more than one decade, or they were a vice president's or the each other's country. they call along very well. and this meeting, the virtual summit, as we call it, is long overdue. it should have happened earlier this year. however, i think the fact that it takes place is truly

a milestone event in china. us relations, it gives assurances to everyone in china, in the united states, that despite of all the differences the company does, of the 2 countries can sit down, be frankly, be caught you as you mentioned and discuss all the differences. rather them flying to temper, tried to get to each other's jungle, for example, not only threatened their own people by threaten world of peace and development, this is the better side of china us relations. and i hope it gives everyone the reason to believe that they can get over their differences and they can find a way to get along despite of that tremendous amount of differences which need to be managed. i know was this meeting perhaps also a u. s. recognition that previous efforts to try to influence china's domestic and foreign policy i've kind of foundered. i would say 1st of all, that i would concur with professor gall assessment that the meeting taking place,

the virtual meeting, taking place on that in and of itself is a positive development. and the fact that it was for frank and the candid, and a cordial conversation is also positive, particularly when you just oppose that to the meeting that occurred earlier this year in anchorage, which quickly deteriorated. ah, that being said, i think that if you read, if you read the read out from the white house, for instance, the meeting, we can all assess that. nothing substantive actually came out of the meeting. there were no da, there were no rural agreements to do anything. i think the biggest take away is that both countries, both governments recognize that open and transparent in canada, communications are required. and this virtual meeting on the use of 2 telephone calls that have occurred since present by and took office is a positive development in that sense. i want to talk about that meeting in

anchorage for a bit because when the u. s. secretary of state and chinese foreign ministers met in alaska in march. the tone, as we've been saying was a lot more hostile to listen to this. i just made my 1st trip. as i noted to japan and south korea. i have to tell you what i'm hearing is very different from what you described. i'm hearing deep satisfaction that the united states is back, that we're reengaged with our allies and partners. i'm also hearing deep concern about some of the actions your government is taking to have on core china as it has in the past and from now on will never accept the u. s. is meaningless criticisms. we must demand that u. s. drops is frequent hedge, a monic action was of interfering in china's internal affairs. i. okay, i want to ask victor about this because we heard obviously very strong words from the us. but we also had very strong words from china. and that is unusual. and i've

heard under president she whether he is directly responsible for this or not. there is, there is an assessment of that policy being described as aggressive diplomacy that china was no longer simply going to sit back and, and take the criticism. but, but it was actually gonna essentially take the fight to those who were opposed to it, but now we're seeing this change is that are suggesting, do you think that china has been, can become concerned that that policy has over reached the mark and has brought it closer to risky confrontation with the u. s. and others. and that perhaps is why we're seeing this dialing back of rhetoric. eugene took place on the very special circumstances. ah, weatherwise, it was very cold at that time. and then both young teacher and one year on the chinese side, and then their counterparts in the united states. they were sizing of each other. try to test what of what each other in preparation for the summit meeting or the

virtual somebody meeting which took place to day. now the working level meeting need to be as straightforward as possible. the chinese side, the united states, had no justification to talk to china from the position of so called strength. and this is truly unprecedented. i think china feels comfortable enough to tell the united states in very serious and straightforward term that the relations between china, the united states, should be level relations. no, why should lecture the other from above and china, the united states need to deal with each other as equals. now this is reflected very much in this virtual meeting today, president vital and president, she jim being seem to get along very well, very cordially they respect each other. they like each other, they can get along with each other and the working level people, the secretary of state, the national security adviser on the dallas,

they said their counterparts in china need to deliver all the good will demonstrate it by the 2 heads of state. this gives hope that china and that is states will not go to war, go to conflict, go to each other's juggler. they will get down to business to treat each other as equal. and then as present, she, you being said the world is big enough to accommodate both china and the united states. glen, this virtual meeting, if i understand correctly, is essentially one step up from a phone call, but as far below a physical face to face meeting. now obviously, there may well be logistical reasons why the junk that the main concern couldn't have a face to face meeting. but what do we lead into the fact that rather than having yet another phone call, they decided to have a virtual summit meeting which lasted 3 hours and was very public. all it's, it's difficult to say, i guess, and it could be many miles. it could be possibly reducing.

well, that's all out. if, if the meeting would be a failure, it could be restrict, will simply caution over the pandemic. or it could simply be not, not wanting to take a real meeting with, they would see how this when. so i, i agree with, you know, what was said in the previous meeting. the last guy was more confrontational simply because they were kind of testing each other out and pushing back in, obviously. and they think were china russia for the sake. and they were reluctant to be address from the position of sovereign inequality in which for example, the u. s. or do you think will come and the point will be to lecture them. so instead they're assisting them on having this meeting. i'm sorry and equals. now i think this meeting was much better for me pretty much because this was not how the

meeting started biting did not show up to lecture being. and then there was this had a feeling of meeting between 2 equals, which i'm a common interest. therefore in seeking cooperation and reducing tensions, are things the format immediately on the right track. now that being said, given that this meeting went well, it's quite possible that it can be upgraded them to another meeting. actually in person. it all depends how this plays out. and i would just add, also one difference is timeless. biting gives, putting up their need for common rules of the road, which is the american you prefer to names to the so called rules based international system. now, this is a very point of departure of talking to a chinese because they might been incorrectly interpreted or william terms is actually a consist of any common role. so the chinese in system then operating on their, the rules of international law in, on you and charter. so on the contrary,

we see that often the u. s. tends to the speaks of values and the rules based international system implies that has been broken to, to use liberal values to exempt itself from international law. and i think that's why it went so in alaska as well as that the chinese and began to lecture among older internal affairs, which obviously would not accept all the way around. so i think that was the main reason why this meeting went so much better than the previous. i know, let me ask you about that. that element of creating a common understanding of the world in which both countries live. do you think that we are seeing a subtle shift in us policy and as much that it is trying to, as glenn was referring to go talk about the rules of the road, the guidelines, the guardrails, i think was one of the phrases that the president used in terms of the, for want of a better face, the playing field in which both teams are on rather than trying to directly influence china. well, i would say that there has been a distinct evolution in sign

a u. s. relations since 2017 where the national security, the last national security strategy was published. ah, where great power competition was specifically cited as the greatest national st. charles the united states. and we called out, ah, she ging pings china as being a primary focus there. and i think, you know, i'd like to push back a little bit on this concept of the united states lecturing. china. ok if you go to practically any corner of the world today, whether it's with in europe or china's neighbors in east asia, there has been a confluence, all interests, an alignment with international norms, democratic values and the like that's been pushing back on what has been an assertive and even an aggressive chinese foreign policy that is used for instance,

economic coersion against countries such as australia and south korea. we last of lears lithuania, most recently. and job, as i somewhat ironic chinese lane about the united states lecturing when chinese diplomacy or a quote has brought a new york term to our lexicon that a weird overseas i would push back on that a little. and with respect to the actual meeting yesterday. and the fact that it was a virtual meeting again, i think that's a positive development. it's a step up from a telephone call. but, you know, at a certain point, hopefully, ah, president, she will be able to travel again internationally because you miss the international stage of the ne, nascent general assembly. a few months ago, he missed the meetings in wrong. he missed the meetings in glasgow, so that certain point, hopefully she ging thing will be able to venture outside of china to engage with

his counterparts and pers, there is a slight problem that the u. s. has at least with regard to taiwan and please correct me if i'm wrong in this, but if i understand correctly that the u. s. has a policy that we talked about earlier about sam, there being a one china policy policy that, that, that, that it agrees with the one china policy. but at the same time, president biden has said it will defend its allies. i. e, tie one to an outsider like me, that seems like a mixed message. it seems like 22 different sides of the same coin. does that counter any? and i understanding or undermine a possible understanding when it comes to meetings like this, because china, perhaps understandably, will say what you're saying, one thing, but you're willing to do another and we don't exactly know where you stand on this . well, i would, i would say that u. s. policy has been consistent and longstanding since 1979. and i will also mention that we have domestic look legislation the taiwan relations act that

governs our unofficial relationship with taiwan. so there have been no changes there whatsoever you ever again a present yesterday reaffirm the u. s. commitment to the one china policy, the commitment to 3 communicate as well as the commitment to the 6 assurances which my chinese colleagues you know, fail to mention, but that is also an integral part of our relationship. i'll be an unofficial with that of taiwan. and the united states has also been steadfast, in its commitment to no unilateral changes in the cross straight situation. and again, i would venture to say that, particularly over the last 12 to 15 months, the exponential increase in purely activities meant to intimidate and coerce the people of taiwan has not done anything to stabilize the relationship. i want to move on from taiwan cuz obviously that is a very thorny subject. we could be talking about that for hours. and victor,

let me ask you this. this is being referred to as an effort to reset relations all be that the, the, the meeting between the 2 presidents have, as i said before, appears to have been cordial. is it going to be difficult for president? she ging ping to be able to persuade other elements of his party of his government who might be more, might have stronger feelings towards the u. s. that this is now the route to go that they both countries can work together. well, i think on the chinese people and among the chinese government officials, there is tremendous amount of goodwill for the united states. don't get me wrong, the chinese people, i'm not enemies of the united states. and if we look at the deterioration of china relations ever since trump became the president in 2017, a lot of the problems actually were crated to by the american side rather than by the chinese side. the chinese that were on the receiving side of all these china

passion for example. so i think if we can really get down to business or can really call a spade a spade, china us releases can go back to very constructive, very normal friendly relations. i think in the united states, there are people who need to come to terms with the fact that china is all becoming larger than the united states as an economy. that should not cause insanity, washington, they need to treat this as a reality. the key is now that china is fast becoming the largest economy in the world. how can channel the united states get along with each other? and this should be the key thing that biden and t b need to talk about it. i don't think the united states will lose their sanity of the mind if china surpasses the united states. because these 2 countries have very, very different systems. and i don't think china has any desire or commitment to

replace the united states as the top dog of the world, because we simply see no fun of becoming the pop dark of the world. that's why she didn't being said, the world should be big enough to accommodate both channel the united states. fundamentally, china, the united states, should not be enemies against each other. they should be partners and friends with each other going forward. liked her, i'm sorry to interrupt you, but i want to come to glenn on this because of the meeting. as we mentioned before, was 3 hours long. we only saw a small proportion of it. clearly there was stuff that was being discussed or not in public. what evidence going forward? you think we should look at to see whether or not this meeting has actually had an impact, pause or negative on relations between china, the us and obviously all the other countries in that region as well. who will of course, be directly affected by any change in relationship between the us and china. i

think it's wonderful that obviously both parts needs a while and addressing each other respectfully. however, i don't think too much what the cheap when it comes to economics. i think obviously there's more room for maneuver in terms of science, finding compromises you can do. the very difficult part because i think that the economic hardship when you're trying to use to find very clear division of labor in which do not a states with intimate and control the high tech industries while china would produce an assembled. however, the china is not the china local chains and now it's more of a direct competitor to united states. so there's more of a need, therefore, to renegotiate economic partnership as well. to also accommodate on the what format they can actually compete. level are going to leave right there because unfortunately time has come up against us. but i want to thank all i guess, victor gao, hydro clean kind. glenn decent. thank you. to course for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll just here at dot com for

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