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prizes, but he stressed that it was never about going off the individual for him, but he wants to help create to help your sport for everybody. a massive believer everything up for a reason. and like i said, hopefully 5 years time. and we're gonna see a big change and i can look back at that and i did something thus far bigger than any runs ago or anywhere keeps i go. but yeah, if horrible it were fi called for real changes to get rid of all discrimination in crickets including against black players and women, the committees do to wish you its own recommendations. it's then up to the government to decide what action if any should be taken. mentioned that in barbara, al jazeera london balance with someone. oh, it is good to be with us. hello adrian. so they can hear it though. how the headlines on al jazeera la hor, in pakistan, has been named the most polluted city in the world. people are urging the
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government to save them from the worsting air quality and a new delhi in neighboring india. schools and colleges have been shot in definitely due to pollution. now to cirrus come out, hydra reports not from his love about this time of day, people are burning that out on the agricultural farms and plus the fact that vague your lead traffic has in creed. and i've got kids contributing to over 40 percent of the pollution and deteriorating air quality. also people are not able to go out into the box anymore or industrial pollution and also a factor and the fact that a lot of the garbage it burned openly. but there had been annoyed wisely from the government as far as school and work rated are concerned. and they said there was an alarming situation. thousands of refugees migrants on the poland,
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baylor roost border of spent another night sleeping and make shift camps on tuesday . police and poland, fire, fire, water, cannon, and tear gas. those trying to cross the u. s. secretary of state as meeting kenny as president in nairobi as part of a diplomatic push to bring peace to ethiopia. it's for the year long conflict with the rebels from the northern to gray region may spiral into a civil war. armenia says that a cease fire with azerbaijan is mostly holding, following a day of violence which left several soldiers dead. arminius, defense ministry says that russia helped to broker the truce. both sides, blame each other for provoking. the fighting sedans military says that it will release the former prime minister, abdullah hon. dog within the next 48 hours, a member of the new sovereign council has told al jazeera that handle will be among detainees being freed, he's been under house arrest since the military take over 3 weeks ago. ham docs plan released follows a visit to sedan by the u. s. assistant secretary of state. the headline news for
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here al jazeera after the stream, coming up next. setting the discussions. what is greenwashing is when an oil company called green, 30 unflinching journalism, are you committed to building a vibrant democratic up godsa, sharing personal stories with a global audience? our menaces had no idea what happening on the shop floor, but i could see the body bags explore and abundance of world class programming climate change. just another point. it's an issue of survival on algae 0. good higher for me. okay. sale the stream. i'm going to take you to a small area of jungle between columbia and panama. it is a small area of health. let me show you the map to the can push in towards it. we're heading towards the darian gap, so as we headed towards it, you'll see
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a patch of green. okay, that is the jungle. it's only about 60 miles wind, but getting for it as a migrant. this is part of the migrant trail from central america through to northern america, north america, getting for it is very difficult. let me show you. let's pull back and show you the long, long journey. if you make it through that jungle, all the way through to the united states in the past year, more migrants have been traveling that route than ever. 807000 migrants in 2021 so far. $19000.00 of them were children. and another 50000 are expected to go through that very same route. before the end of this year. i know you have questions. this is part of the migrant story in north america and central america that we don't always get to hear about a new to use the comment section. be part of the day show. we are asking about the darian gap. why it is so dangerous? who goes through there and how does central america solve or begin to address its
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major migrant crisis on today? street? ah, has 3 guests who help us answer so many of those questions go. she teresa had my nice to have you here on the stream. you go to introduce yourself to international audience. my name's a good c daniels and i am the deputy director general for operations at the u and international organization for migration ticket to have a critical voice than today's part of that. teresa always get to have you on the stream. you bring stories, you've been inside. hello audience, who you are a new connection to the diary and gap because there's a piece of report that you've been doing. that is, has been very well received, new, so important. well, my name is teresa ball. i'm a latin american correspondent for al jazeera and i just came back from covering
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and bill through the darian gap. and it was one of the most impressive, sad and devastating stories i've. i've covered him a good to have healed the stream and 14 for a really difficult story to share with international audience. but tell them who you are, what you do here. i am jim. i mean, i am the head of mission. i met in mexico on panama. i get to have you. i'm just thinking here about the diary and gap and how i describe it. teresa, can you help me because you would not so long ago. how would you tell our audience what it is like for my kids to arrive at town and know that they have to go through this jungle and what happens to them in that jungle? and if they manage to make it out the other side. well, when we arrive to the colombian city of nick oakley, and when once we were there, we started thousands and thousands and thousands of people just piling there. they
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were not being allowed by the columbia authorities to cross what is known as it goes to continue with their journey towards panama. people arriving there were desperate, many have very little resources there, all one to make it either to mexico or the united states as a final destination. they know that the trip is going to be difficult, but they never imagine. you know, how difficult many of the people i spoke to in the beginning of that journey. they were telling me, we know it's very hard. but in the end of that journey, which is in a town of back when you go in panama, you know, they said had i known what i was going to go to, i would have never taken this journey. we personally, we were not allowed to cross at the time. security conditions were not, you know, it was extremely dangerous for us to do so. but we did cover a big part of the true true pattern with through colombia and then all the other side from panama. and you know, people arrived to the other side hungry. many have been women have been raped
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children id hydrated in and many died along the way. so we have very, very, very difficult journey for them to embark on. you know, i couldn't agree more. i was in by her to quito just last week. i saw a lot of the same thing. i think what really struck me as you see the migrants walking into behind shaquita coming out of the jungle, how tired this oriented they are and the looks on their faces. and i had the chance to speak with quite a few of them. and something that really struck me was, 1st of all, they all talked about how this is nothing like what they expected. that's, you know, that's the 1st thing. but they all talked about the faces that they saw because they pass through so many corpses along the way. so they are also in a state of almost psychological shock when they arrive. and almost all of them also
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talk about how if they could, they would go back home future, choose making the journey. i showed them up earlier. so where between columbia and panama. so who are these markers who, who dare to go for a jungle and potential death, they not going to make it. so we saw migrant people from haiti, people from venezuela, people from dominican republic, people from as far away as is becca span and gold, guinea. so it's a range of people from different countries. but the other thing that really struck me is that they're young because to survive the journey, you have to be young and able bodied, many of them talked about their parents who were with them, but who died or injured and still in the forest. so that, that's what we see
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a range of nationalities, but young young people, i'm going to explore that. the young people who are making this journey that makes sense. so frontier did a documentary. they talked to some of the people who had made it through the gap and you'll see how young they are. and the kind of rift that they took at take a look, how much is a on the load and then put us on the 4th of the line. so now it'll be that on bill to you. so you most with the reason i. i am glad ethan girl. good. but i could also give where you live. ball gay. danielle mccrae grew sad, seeing but also say you will add the height piano allow it real.
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last throw as real. you know, i said little san lucas will be more la montagnier, go hammer. maybe send me a meal. who are no i so when i mean you investment and you're going or nina, i deanna but that and then also the coil i noticed on the lawn. how about my son? so frontier doctors without borders. what kind of state did you find people in outbreak gone for the daren gap? i'm in. well, the numbers are mentioning that the big number of people are crossing the gap where we have seen more than 30000 people in our 1st position. we are prison in blackwood to keep ending that migration is station since april. it was an emergency for us because many meet around in mexico in the had sense of where we are providing has they were mentioning the nightmare that was good us in
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the audience. so finally we didn't explode at $30000000.00 in march and they were already operating. they had sent him back to people and supporting as. busy well, we've had to make it up to the, into me that the, the station in the last that, and in some be sent him back to the 1st place where people are writing and some of the other collaborators from that were mentioning that he said he's meeting one hand, and he's all the head problem related to walk through it in 5 to 7 days nowadays that he saw last year that they can do being can know. but before they were $5.00 to $7.00 days more than more than many months, we said that they are a. busy 1000000 so that means that that is the capital sometimes i do
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a little bit all and other said that that a little bit younger, but they are when the children sometimes listen, some time mine or not some pain. and what they mention is that the beginning they go in groups, but there is one moment talk with the the images that people they lock their from finance. and finally they needed to be in harvey to continue continue on advancing . and finally, many people, they leave their relatives and they have to continue. so. busy at the same time, there war is the buyer and the violence that they offended because they've got a boost of what they put and who do that they are and they are, they, they, they, me, grant, sometimes we followed the violence and at the same time they said body that women
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and they, they weighed them. so this is what the, when we serve in and then they didn't have sensors together with the ministry of yes. and we had, are equally concerned about the cases of g, b, v. and what's especially a violence rape, sexual violence. but what's even more concerning is that we know that many of these cases are under reported. they don't want to report because they want to spend as minimal time as possible and just and just pass and find me at the beginning. you were mentioning the numbers 100000 them possibly 850000. it's important to also highlight that the numbers that have passed through this year is more than have passed through in the past 10 years. why? well, what we are seeing from our programs is that one is the impact of cove it economic people and they know my yes. and when you speak to them,
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they all say we're looking for better opportunities for, for our family tree to go ahead. well, what you know, my experience is when, when people were talking to them and people were completely traumatized as a documentary from doctors without borders call, i mean women where they did not want to talk about what happened to them. but then, you know, we went to not on camera, of course, and they were explaining to us how, you know, they were going in groups and then they separate. they were separated and then criminal groups with face covered. they didn't know whether they were colombians or panamanians because that's an area that's important to know. that's an area where the goals, you know, there's a paramilitary groups operate in that area, colombian paramilitary groups, but then there's criminal organizations on the other side. so the, the migrant, they pay some either call your teeth or guide as they call them. they charging about $100.00 each. so they explode that they're going to be taken to the other
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side. but what happens is that once they arrive in the middle of that trip, they, you know, they are either abandoned or they are kidnapped in a way by other group. and then there's separated and that's when women are taken to one side. and i was told that for example, theresa like canada, which would be or where men were taken to one side. yeah. so as excuse me for, for interrupting you. i want to show some of the recordings and the people that you spoke to because it's so so powerful when you hear it from your own voices. so this is some of 2 eaters reporting for al jazeera. in the felt less taken up, florida says they were assaulted, a woman from her group was raped and she had to cover herself in mud to protect herself into you'll see, rape has become the norm. you know, i mean, normally africa doing him when you, when you marry available, which i love my you in a yeah. yeah. you
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know with god the gardener, madame a winery, whatever the movies avenue in your life. a boy. yup. i saw it i long ago. and when i only deal with them in order to be, so my little guy in, i'm another room, one of my family as well. so if you were saying that some women were being targeted . yeah, go ahead. know it. there are targeted and there's child violence and there's the criminal organizations that are operating in that area. and it's, you know, it's, if you look at, for example, the conflict in columbia and so areas are completely out of control authority. there is no security in panama and some areas of the country. there's similar situation, maybe not activities in columbia. so there's no control at a point. there were some talks between, you know, re, general 40 to try to guarantee a safe bass or migrant. but, you know,
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before what i have heard, you know, it's been, you know, this has been job something that hasn't moved forward and it's, it's necessary. i mean, people crossing that border are victims to criminal organizations to gangs upgrading in that area. mostly women are children. everyone i spoke to and i'm talking, you know, we spoke to dozens of women. everyone had been wrong. everyone, you know, had lost all their belongings, their phones. so it's a very violent trade. it's a very, you know, it needs people traumatized that many regret, even embarking on that journey. but after all of the woman that we were just seeing, you know, i spoke to her recently and he's already, she's already in the united states. so, you know, at a point she was asking me please, you know, let the voice out of what would happen to us. but, you know, she's, she's now in the united states and asking for asylum. so people feedback and that's why they continue to go. and you know, what, just as you know, we were hearing is thousands and thousands of people continue to go there. i'm
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going to bringing another voice into conversation guess, and then i have so many questions on youtube for you. i'm going to ask you to maybe help out understand exactly what's going on from your perspective. robert mckee. oh and is from the global migration center. he's the deputy director and he knows that this room, this room for the dorian gap. it's a very well known route, if it's so well known, the atrocities that happened to migrate it so well. what do you do about that? here is fortunately, the darien gap. it's incredibly dangerous and has become a kind of a routine part of the migrant trail from people coming from south america through central america. and the only solution i see would be for someone, some organization to be there to meet my grants at the beginning of the gap in northern columbia and take them through to one of the shelters that the panamanian
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government hosts in central panama. ah, i don't know if that's who we feasible, but you know, it's become part of rule is a routine part of migration for a lot of people and a lot of people die, passing through it become seriously ill, become seriously traumatized. let's tackle some of the questions that you can share with as phyllis. this is carlos, he says the dawning region between columbia and the panama border has been a very dangerous place for refugees, because the trafficking of drugs government should implement protection for those migrant. that's what robert was saying, protection gucci. is that possible? it's part of the solution, but it's not the whole solution. we as m, i o m, have been working with the government of panama. they have increased patrols in the gap. we have seen at least the number of reported cases of sexual violence reduced, but we know that that is not enough to deal with the overall issue of migration. it
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needs to be a regional approach because there's so many countries in the region involved. but it also needs to be a range of things that need to be done. first of all, increasing regular opportunities for migration, for these migrants addressing the root causes and the drivers of migration where they come from, giving them opportunities to voluntarily return. so you have leon says why we were surrounding in the studio by mike was going through hell, right? so you have all the answers, why we still seeing a? well, at this point, there's cautious optimism because on the political side, the leaders of the countries involved are keen to address this issue. the un migration agency, we've actually just put out an appeal for $75000000.00 for a comprehensive regional response that will involve a range of m,
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u and agencies. so we know what to do and the political will know what is there, or is it being done? this is the panama president. he's talking about this whole issue about if people are leaving because they don't have enough money, they don't have jobs. that could be the root cause, that is the recluse. here is speaking on october, the 20th emory goldman though we have recommended a public investment program with a public infrastructure program to generate employment, a public infrastructure program to generate massive employment. so that the people of haiti, the haitians stay in their country so that they see progress and a future and haiti middle initial. but we need more ye achieve comments and questions and we put this one t theresa, advert james os. is there no way that mike west can get that destination without going through the horrifying forest, the jungle wells out people,
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if we have spoken to a know that they have to, they have a path that they go through. you know, they've been in touch with, you know, their co pays or, or guide before and, and they know the way, i mean, this is something that should be, you know, that authority regional authority should make a safe passage when we worry, nick oakley, for example, you know migrant, we're going to go one way and then be ended up changing the tray and then that's where that's the part that we filmed be agreed with. it was kind of a very complex situation because you had, because your kids are guides that work with military good, you know, working together with a may, your of, i can be a small town in columbia, helping them migrant through the way towards panama. and they were trying to make sure that that it was like a faith back. what i found out is that when we met them on the other side, it was not at the basket. people were robbed, they were harassed. children died, women were raved, you know, and this is something that continues. i met with
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a foreign minister of finance while we were in panama also, and she wanted to create the safe passage. but the other thing that when we found out is that when we went back to keep the where dr without orders has a field hospital, they were the only ones working there. you know, migrants were not receiving any assistance from panama while they were there. they were no food, they had nothing to drink, children were dehydrated and the only one helping them for doctors without borders . so i think that much more needs to be done by regional government because they, they kind of treat them as migrant. they won't invest in them, they just want them to keep them going. but what you have right now at the gallery and got what you have in back. what you keep, though, is a humanitarian crisis that need to be dealt with, you know, local authority and local authorities in many cases, either don't care or don't have the resources. jim, i want you to talk about safe passage. i know you have some thoughts here, but may i play festival, joshua collins, and then when you finish, listening to him, react immediately. here is really illustrates,
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is their attempts to control and militarize these borders or prevent passage of magnets, doesn't stop migration. so it really pushes these vulnerable communities into the hands of armed years, criminal owners who control this passage. if people really want to try and make a humanitarian response to this problem, i think the only solution that i can see is to of some sort of humanitarian corridor. it allows for state passage yes, so exactly what them a therapy look 18 a safety and route where make rounds and population in time state. they don't have to suffer the violence that they had experiencing in that and get out. i want to fight 2 things. one is that, that are one of them that this
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a little bit more norther and you don't have to pass through back when you go directly from starting in next. hopefully go through a couple of them now a little bit, but i think and memory and you've been, it's been somebody sent it in the migration station in the sense that that's rude is more expensive. and then that the rude people doesn't experience. the thing by unit is really birby cation. so if that is one of them, not the but he's much more expensive than the other rude, a thieves that we're going out with, from nickel, meet gross, as well. i gross, although they can good feel about 2 feet though i said the last 2 days now that he said the dog, so the phone on my 2 days, this is the place where he is much more than you do is when he happened old violent
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. so i agree that he said some politic that can be sold in long term, but based on need of the money time in response, not only from the actors any backwards to assist eli as before said we are the only one. finally, ministry of head, they yes, well they, they designated some has to be with us in the health center, but there is no other actor and there are big need. people are camping in any place now. i'm them over the my and that he's no lead trained that are big but, and the by the conditions, hygiene conditions that really needs to be improved. a certainly, as i said, as that, that we can work on these together with community and then after. so these 9 of the families that really now resort again. thank you. jemma. thank you teresa. thank
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you. go to for telling us about the dorian gap between panama and columbia. and it's where so many migrates, have a fearful journey as they head towards the united states. thanks for watching everybody, which is recommend 2 things for you back here on my laptop. pan, american gateway to hope that is true, he suppose reporting it is extremely informative and he also makes sense on frontier the darian gap, a dangerous in she may root. thanks for watching the next time a community decimated by cancer fights for the trees. who in this room has cancer, or knows that someone that lives here that have cancer phone lines exposes houston's cancer cluster. these are the 110 properties that have grown contamination underneath they look data visible. pope a community it just say from do you feel that i'm bell? nobody's. nobody's. we're sitting in fault lines on out is near
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