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gordon makes its way into humans. buddhists and thailand released captive birds for merit or good luck for the world still reeling from the impact of one animal born bars that spread into human populations. many will be praying this person. berkeley doesn't do the same. tony chang al jazeera banker ah ha, past the hour, these are the top stories protest, ladies in sudan say at least 10 protesters have been killed during another large rally against military rule demonstrate as of announced a one week sit in in the capital tomb vessel said has been out on the streets of the sudanese capital covering the protests. you are now in the district javert, all hard to. and people have started together here around 1 pm a lot of time, which is the usual practice for that. brought us over. this brought us today is
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taking place on a working there usually is a broad as these on the, on the weekends. and the brought out to say that there's a read. the reason that they decided to now conduct brought us all to working. this is to mark, this is the most affordable army to mark the country. so for a while here, this is a different but there are several other places, a lot of security forces finding, interfering, people. there are a lot of people as shooting and it did these 1st dam. ah, the other headlines, newest secretary of state antony blinkin is pushing for a cease fire in ethiopia. secretary lincoln currently in nairobi on the 1st leg of a 3 nation tour is held, talks with kanyes president, already fighting between the ethiopian government and rebels from the northern to gray region as any escalated in recent weeks. glorious to set up shelters fulsome the migrants and refugees. stuff on the border with poland. thousands had been
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living in makeshift camps. this is now a day off to polish police use tear gas and stung grenades to stop them from crossing into the you. the head of the united nations nuclear watchdog says iran has boosted its stock pile of highly enriched uranium profit growth is expected to visit toronto next monday. corona virus, news germany has recorded more than 52000 cove 19 infections, which is its highest number since the pandemic began. the outbreaks been blamed on germany's relatively low vaccination rate, but 2 thirds of the population as received their jap and crowds in the czech republic, had rallied against new government measures, meant to curb the spread of covina, antique. as of monday, unvaccinated people have been banned with some public events. yep. news hour in 25 minutes time. next though. inside story with hash omaha barbara ah
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complete, but not operational, the law stream to project is poor to hold. germany has halted approval for this pipeline that will bring rushing gas into europe. so is it a politically motivated decision and what does it mean? full gas prices that are old by the hi. this is inside story. ah, ah. hello, welcome to the program. i am hush him a hell bottle. a pipeline created to supply gas from russia to germany, and europe has suffered another setback. germany's and as the regulator has
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suspended approval of the north stream to it, once the russian company behind the project to form a local subsidiary to operate the journal part of the pipeline, thus pushed up a whole se gas prices in the u. okay, and a u. and as your price as well ready, high after the winter in europe last year, put prussia on supplies. the us and many european countries say the project will increase europe's reliance or russian energy and could be weaponized by moscow. but russia maintains it will solve the continence energy crisis. last month president vladimir put in announced moscow could start supplies as soon as it gets the green light from germany getaway gilbert. she has no part of edward zach fall in the gossum. as i've already told you, 18500000000 cubic meters multiplied by 2 men as 9 billions of guest non delivered
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on the european markets by the americans and the middle east partners and 22500000000 shortage because of decreasing production. european gas markets could now face a shortage of 70000000000 cubic meters of guess that's a lot usually made you understood if it's in the earth pipeline of the north seem to is full of gas. and if the gym and regulator hands have clearance for supplies to morrow, supplies of 17500000000 cubic meters will start the day after tomorrow. in december or the technical work to fill, the 2nd peptide of north gym to will be finished. in total, the amount will be 55000000000 cubic meters void. ukraine opposes the nor stream gas pipeline and welcomed the german regulators. decision. uri with ranko has the energy company, natural gas, and says the moose adjust that the journal regulate as shies, our position. that certification can not only apply to the pipeline in germany. he says it should apply to the entire pipeline from the territory of the russian
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federation. to the territory of germany, north stream 2 is expected to double the volume of gas coming from russia into europe. the 1200 kilometer pipeline is owned by the russian energy giant gasp rolled with investment from several european companies is, was carry 55000000000 cubic meters of natural gas a year. no stream to was bill to run under the baltic sea and bypass poland, and ukraine is predecessor nor stream one. use the same wrought were launched. the 2 pipelines could account for after 60 percent of russia's gas acts was to europe. in august the us imposed sanctions a russian vessels laying the pipeline for the project. ah, let's bring it, i guess. in lean. rick broken
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a professor of political science at stanford university. believe in moscow, pavel fagen holla, is political commentator and columnist for the via gazette in burn canaria maya is an economist and oil and gas specialist. welcome to the program, rick, to what extent was the german watch? those decision to suspend the approval for the north stream to purely technical and based on administrative grounds. this is hard to say on the one hand, it's not a court that acts independently. so an agency reports to the government. and that was exactly the reason why the european court of justice criticized the status of the federal agency for approval. that their state should become more independent in order to avoid political influence. so it's current state. it can be influence, they can receive orders from the government. but the question is,
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who's calling them? because we are in the middle of a handful from the american administration to the new as we call it, st. lives coalition with 3 parties involved, and therefore no one is really in the driver's seat at this point. well, i understand the general sentiment in russia would be the basically, this is a politically motivated decision. well, naturally the kremlin says they believe it's not that this is a technical kind of pick up that a russian kind of sponsor or nor street to a g, which is registered in switzerland and owns and operates and should operate north street. do i will have to create a german of surgery that will take 4 to 6 weeks
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to create and then the german agency, you again begin the process of certification and in general, the period of certification which is 4 months beginning from a deborah, that means january they are complete, there's a problem that after that the issue may go 4 or more months in the european commission a. so it's not clear when they're actually no more stream to is going to be operational. and that's not seen very good in brush cornelia, given the current situation, it seems that this is going to take at least 8 months for the paperwork to be processed in germany to ensure this is going to be under you jurisdiction. and you have the same time energy crunch, which is likely to further strain the economy in europe. how do you see this moving forward in the upcoming months? well, it's not easy and i don't think it has to take 8 months to
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a certain degree while unfortunate. i understand what the german regulator has done because switzerland is not in d, e. u and anything under swiss or you know, under swiss, her law is not, is not subject to the european court of justice. so if they want to get the pipeline approved by the e u, this may not feed the dumbest move that they have done. and so what, what, what really is important is to get to really fast track did that this incorporation on the move off the assets and then fast track the approval and give them the energy crunch that we have. i think it's in, in most people's interest to, to, to get this done quickly. however, as some our colleague in berlin has pointed out, we are in, we are in between a interregnum. we are between 2 governments and the new government. you have the
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social democrats, the s p day who is very pro on balance, very pro noise stream to and you have to green so very against noise stream too. so this is not gonna be, it's not going to be the easiest of times for noise stream to oh, rick, alert until a few months ago, the general feeling in europe that russia was not pumping enough gas into european continent choosing. instead, what it described as the neutral refill its own stocks. and this explains why many have been saying that russia is weapon isaac, it's a gas. do you think that this decision by the german washington comes against the backdrop of this ongoing, a raw over how to do with gas supplies in europe? well, we have seen several winters in which russia, weaponized gas supply for a t o strategic reasons. and one can read the latest developments in a similar way,
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because we are currently in rather hot phase of cold conflict that includes bella roles and it includes the ukraine. and certainly in russia, the best interest to see very high gas prices. while inside the european union, we see a number of countries being heavily dependent on russian gas that differs from country to country. and that also explains why we have a very capital pony hawkins called these days when it comes to think of shell north street and be open as soon as possible to lower the gas prices. where is this just another hands that can be turned against the european union as a whole puzzle. i mean the gus giant gospel decided to reduce the shipments through the amal europe pipeline that goes through the bellows and also poland. things that
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instead in needs of this particular moment to prioritize the roof. finicky own domestic storage facility, which lead men to think or, you know, what russia squeezing gas supplies for political reasons. oh, of course moscow rejects and you kind of say such notions and says that the higher gas prices in europe are result of very higher gas prices in the k share region. and that we're good 5 gas supplies by tank for go in that direction instead of going to europe because the prices are higher there. and the gas problem is, is actually honoring all contract obligations. ok. but the problem of course is very much there. and yes, prices mazda says it's not that interested, that's interested in a stable situation. but it's also clear as russia would want to have an option not
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to use the ukranian, a gas transport system at all, or to put pressure, maybe on ukraine or also if there's any kind of serious where on the border between ukraine and russia, which could technically even stop by the transit gas re break, then russia have options through to buy for asha for them because they're 2 black ones, each with 2 pipes though you through, under the baltic sea. and of course, another one, the other pipelines going through turkey. so russia could bypass a possible confrontation zone and continue to keep europe supply and maybe incent europe not to intervene and do any kind of where ups that could happen in eastern europe. cornelia, you have winter and you have energy crisis. how are we to blame? is it the post pandemic recovery?
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is it russia or is it weather related events, particularly last winter? it is the perfect storm you had last winter. you had such a cold winter that starch was on plenty shed, and i have some sympathy for gas brom again for 1st filling their own storage because they had a cold winter too. so dare, storage shoe, it was, was deplete that to, for 1st you know, you 1st look after your own people and then then you go further. so, so that's one thing. then we have obviously the competition as was mentioned between them, asia and europe for l. n. g, big because china is importing more and more l n g this year, china will become the largest import, the globally of l. n. she, it will, it will supercede japan in that position. and so, so we have another see, we have some geopolitical tensions, but bed bed mainly it's the perfect storm of supply and demand. and when he comes
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to price, yes, obviously the high l n g prices are partly to blame, but we also have to see that i have of the european take off is indexed to oil. and so when oil prices go up, pipe of the part of the indexation goes up as well. so, so it's, it's tough and for europe, the question is, how do we get enough gas? and how do we ensure that we don't put the poorer segments off to population for it to chop it to, to stark choice of do i eat or do i heat now or root for the governing coalition? in germany, you have a decision that is made now, which is most likely going to result in los forest levels. in europe, an energy crisis, different economies, sectors affected. is there any contingency plan here for germany and for europe? well, it's interesting that every member of the upcoming new government announces that we
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need to radical changes when it comes to climate change. and they are all pushing for renewables that more needs to be done more than what the previous government has done. and given that we've seen the rising gas prices that could potentially be leveraged on the stand, that it's now high time and we shouldn't discussed the nitty gritty is of how distant is when male next to a building or all the reasons why it didn't meet the targets that have been defined before, so they are certainly a push coming from the current. what was described as a perfect storm that we'll see more efforts and more investment in renewables and decreases the cio strategic dependency from russia. pulse is, this is a crisis moment. everybody's looking for leverage. oh, it comes to ukrainian the seem to be pretty much excited about the potential. what
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might happens next particular because they are now going to be part of the consultation process. do you think that the queen is now given this unique opportunity? will they have to put more pressure on all the parties for whatever happens in the future? oh yes, the your regulator in the ukranian representative in germany. and if the gas there are gas transporting company in to the certification process, but of course it doesn't have any power. you, craig, an opinion taken into consideration, but no more than that. it's kind of nice at the, but it doesn't give you a grain, any kind of say, and they are worried that if russia managers to get a more stream to our crew, we operational anytime soon in the coming year in the beginning of the coming year, that may give russia opportunity to do something more drastic in military terms of
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the your brain. and also, of course, the gradient supply through your grade may be dramatically and that means they won't have to use the so called virtual reverse system to get russia. yes, but officially not coming from rush, it's coming from so you're somewhere, but actually it's russian gas and they won't get that. so there are also problems this winter and general further on. so yes, the gradients are buried on the number of issues concerning russia and they're very, very canary. how do you respond to the argument that one of the main reasons why in the past the russians were trying to deliberately withhold gas from europe is particularly because they were trying to push the europeans to shift from the spot market for chases to the uni online. platform based in st. petersburg so that the
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russians will have a bigger se on the, on the trade it on trading of gas. well, actually the russians prefer, prefer not spot markets, but long term agreements. which when you know how much investment is needed into getting gas from the gas field to the, to the end user to the burner tape is, is, is perfectly understandable. and i, i would not, i would not take big stock on that. and when it comes to ukraine is the ukraine. this is difficult, it's tricky. but i would also like to remind us that russia has supplied europe with gas for the past 50 years or so without essentially missing a beat. even, even when the former soviet union was breaking up. so yes, there are to politics and, and, and obviously did. they're playing politics. but in the end, over all russia has been a pretty reliable supplier. it also needed the foreign currency from,
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from europe. i would just like to quickly respond to our colleague in germany in terms of absolutely the german government wants to move to more renewables, but to get from here to dare they will still need gas. let's not forget, they want to get out of coal there. what am i getting out of nuclear? so somehow you need to have to bass slowed to produce the electricity that everybody needs. okay. iraq says we're scientific that are the ultimate go and game for all the parties here. now, europe, supplies of natural gas remain tight, which means of the prices are definitely going to continue to go up, wishes most likely going to push many countries, germany in particular to revisit dirty fuel, particularly her coal and fuel oil. is this a good option given the coalition with the greatest part of it, are definitely going to dismiss it. well,
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it is too early to predict. what exactly the new coalition government will designed . will they keep everything secret, not only on energy policy, and she was strategic questions, but the whole correlation agreement is kept the secret. and we will, you know, next week what the various compromises will look like. and one can read the decision today as a way to buy time for the new government to decide how to balance the conflicting interests, how to fulfill the requirements from the european union to divide the operation and the network. this is technically an important reason for the agency. why decide of the way decided, but i think it's also an additional geopolitical guardianship and the ongoing discussions with russia and bella ross. if one makes a move another country makes another move. and this does not even need to have
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anything to do with energy puzzle. says this is definitely a crisis with geopolitical proportions. now, the russians because the supply 35 percent of the gas impulse for the european union have a leverage. but ultimately, their biggest concern is that if they have any future problems with a russian, it means that a huge chunk of the revenues the use to get from the european bucket is going to be massively affected. is this something which is likely to push the russians for a balancing act here? well, well, york needs rush and russian gas, and of course, russian needs you are to russia is supplying natural gas japan to china. but the year that europe is essential, quiet. so russian, europe are tied together there of the future has problems with
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the c o 2, a signature on that station coming in effect in europe with european union saying that they will oppose any kind of extraction of gas or oil in the arctic with russia is rejecting right now, so they are serious problems in the future. their problems right now. problems in the future. how rush is going to be seen in how russia is going to be interacting with your own supply and gas? not only gas pressure supplies many other oil and methyl fertilizer and lots of other kind of a model. so these are russia, europe have to work together. but right now there's a lot of problems in a lot of misunderstanding. it's very complex and very dangerous. cordelia is said there is going to be a long way to go for the germans to before they have their own diversified
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renewable energy platforms. for the time being, do you think that bringing non russian oil to the european market is going to be easy tapping into potential resources nearby or looking for alternatives? is this something which is feasible in the short term? when he already, we already see l n g from all sorts fights of the world to come to europe, to l. n. g terminals. we have them pipelines coming from the mediterranean, from north africa, through the mediterranean. but mind you there again, we have, if you look at libya, if you look out a dodge area, we have geopolitical tensions. so, so, so there again, we need to m it's, it's just europe will need to get the gas empty oil from where they can get it and, and russia will, will, we will remain a major, a major supplier of oil. we will see the geopolitical tensions and,
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but it will remain very important for the time being because given an a t transitioning haven that especially countries like germany, switzerland want to get out of nuclear. everybody wants to get out of coal. i don't see how you get ok gas. so rick, a less than a minute of your door. my. the european green deal is it's something that is likely to be a moment for the europeans to so you know, and it's about time for us to look into a des carbonized developed economy instead of this reliance that has been going on for generations with russia, which seems to be a major source of concern for the europeans now on this became certainly, you know, mainstream perspective not only in germany as a for climate change policies because we can't afford it. but it's also what the european union, the european commission, as the driver put to as the top priority. and there's one on the russian business
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model that this message dependent on having partners that are still willing to burn fossil fuel. of course, it is a transition matter, and it's a question of how long it's gonna take. but it will certainly change no mutual relationship between russia and the european union. if the green, your changes, the energy mix towards more renewables, quite fascinating of the story unfolds, that many people are thinking that the u. s. could step in and offer an alternative to supply for the europeans in case they decide to part ways with the russians. maybe they should be seen whether the shale capacity and whether the americans will be able to fit in the gap and the void left by the bushes. if there is a split, a rick broken up a hollow canadian my, i really appreciate your insight. thank you very much and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll just,
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