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we listen copied. my tedious not over covered 19 has been terrible demonstration of the failure of human stories that we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter on al jazeera. i think i me okay, on today's episode of the stream, we're going to look at how climate change is made a community in oregon go to war over water. their story is told in the 4 lines investigation when the water stopped a water crisis in americas west is intensifying, deep historic division obliterated ecosystems to create agriculture at the expense of our tribes. that's where your brand since time, then the strong pe good away from the we hold lines, investigate how climate change is pissing an oregon town with the breaking point we

will fight because it's in a blood we are literally to the point that people are going to start seeing each other when the war to stop on al jazeera. joining us to talk about the water conflicts that you just saw that joey from the trailer. hello, ren hello, emma. it's a nice. have you all on the string to day joey. introduce yourself to our international audience. tell them who you are, what you do. hi, my name is jose gentry and i am a member of the clamor tribe. i am not on our official tribal government and i am not an official spokesperson. i just care deeply about my community, my homeland, my home town, and i just want us to heal. hello bad. welcome to the stream. introduce yourself to our global audience. my name is ben duval, and i'm a former ah, south o 2, a california. along with my wife and 2 daughters, free girl alfalfa and we on the claim matriculation project. and i'm also the

president of clans, water users association of i'm not representing the organization in the official capacity here today. i'm, i'm just here much like joe just said as, as just somebody who wants to see see some healing in this community and this, this, it's situation remedy had to handle emma entities herself. i my name is emma maris, i'm an environmental writer, and i live here in klamath falls. so i've been following this water conversation for about 8 years. all right, get to hattie emma. all right, so now you've met our line up. what would you like to ask them? don't you choose? you can ask them anything concerned with the climate change in the region that they're talking about? how it may well be solved, things that you don't understand, commit sections like that. i will try and get your comments into today's, shall emma, can you help us understand? very basically, what is the conflict about. you could have a conversation along i,

it had to being backdate to say the least. i explain it but very briefly. sure. so there are a large number of farmers and ranchers who use water from the giant lake that we live near by called upper climate lake. and every year they get a certain amount of water allocated to them by the federal government this year. that amount was 0. and that was extremely stressful for the producers. but the reason that that amount was 0 is because the water in the lake also has other uses, like keeping alive fish in the upper plymouth lake and salmon down the stream on the way to the ocean, and also watering wildlife refuges that keep migratory birds alive on their way up . so what we're looking at here is a bunch of different people who all want the same water and because of climate

change, the water isn't there when everybody needs it. but it used to be that it have a look on my laptop. they say, you know, jerry, jerry, so adorable fishing. how old are you that jerry? probably 6 or so? no. you got a big one. i recall that. yeah. all right, so what changed? because he said he was little joey fishing your fish with your dad that have a quick look at dad. there. this is the water source is now being argued about so fiercely reminded from when you were 6 to now what, what happened to this water source? well, as mentioned, climate change is, has changed things, drought conditions used to be abnormal, the anomaly, and now they're becoming the norm. there we have too many consumptive users and not enough water. basically, the government over allocated over promised a finite resource. and now nature and our waterways cannot deliver enough water to

our agricultural producers and our fish, which are on the brink of extinction. there's another level to this in terms of farmers and then indigenous peoples relationship to the land. but i want to bring your book thompson, she's from stanford university, water resources engineering department. and she's a student. and she explained why indigenous people in this region of fighting so hard to protect their waterfalls, issues as in business people and become for everything to us. when the river game poorly, we do quarterly when we can't get food from a wire, because there are some populations a day off because of the drought and water being allocated to other places. then our diabetes are the rates go up and physically killing people. our families can be gather, all of our family has been on the river and when there is no economic income,

when there is no practices culturally where we can go on any more and the families get up and spend time. other places who we are at and the people are directly tied to the river. we're literally translate to down or people are literally encompasses everything. who we are, what it means to be indigenous. so for me, in the, if you're on the river, is a fight for life and death. so then that's one understanding else. water and the relationship to indigenous people from that area. i'm going to go via my laptop. hey, can you shed some pictures with this? as well, you and your daughters, what do we, what are we looking at have then? so we understand your relationship to the land and more to, to this is me and my daughter say, and we did. our project were replaced an older. ready inefficient irrigation system with a new one. and that's something that has been going on ongoing and not only on my farm, but throughout the climate. revelation project,

especially in the last 20 years as we've faced reduced allegations we are um, as, as farmers, we feel like we're a steward of the resource and i'm speaking for myself. we try and stretch the every drop water as far as we can. and the further we get into these droughts, the more critical it becomes to do that. and we are all constantly trying to adapt and be able to make our systems as, as efficient as possible. but at the end of the day, it does take some water in order to irrigate and sustain a farm. and we have to be economically healthy in order to make the kinds of investments that allow us to be more efficient, that water and that's why droughts and a complete water shut off like we saw this year are particularly devastating to our communities because it, it takes away our ability to remain economically viable and made and

a long term investments that help not only my community locally here as far as agriculture, but the entire watershed as a whole. i want to put something to you. bannon. and this came up, paying the reporting for my, my colleague just russian. he was reporting on the fish dying lee in, in the basin and, and why the fuss at dying? i'm going to play this kit team and i'd love you to respond at the end of it. let's take a look. every year, the cloud, blue green algae clots the water in the lake, state health authorities, when people and their pets to keep out with no where else to go, young, sucker, fish die and mass before reaching adulthood. the 1st you are to have your dog drink that it would become incredibly ill if not kill it. this year because of the extreme drought, extracting water farms could put the remaining fish at risk. there is very much

a correlation between the quality of this water and the mortality of this fish. and the quality of this water is a direct result of irresponsible agricultural practices. oh, that one's hot, or is it then? well, there's that there are several different factors that go into that. first i all explained a little bit about the geography of this area on my farm as most of the climate reclamation project, which is a federal irrigation project. it was one of the 1st reclamation projects that was started by the us bureau of reclamation after the reclamation act was passed in the early 19 hundreds. and it was, it was one of the reasons was because it was recognized that it was such an ideal or a geisha project. i'm just the way the geography is the water slide. the incredible

soils that we have here makes it, makes it one of the most efficient ervish projects anywhere. and i'm an extremely productive but i remember modeling about why i am a sliding when you, when you talk to my efficient irrigation projects ever and why we use mining. articulate that smile. but just in general, i think that what he's working that benz working towards is that he's actually downstream of the lake. the wires that gets is, is, has already been filled with allergy before it even gets anywhere near his property . so it's a complicated geography and solving the problem is gonna involve both solving issues of demand for water, which is where ben and his fellow users come in, but also how we fix the quality of the water and the lake itself. and that's gonna involve a lot of different land users and, and farmers further up in the watershed closer to the mountains. i said pen, i was just trying to hurry along because the irresponsible,

our good cultural practices that either our, that note and you were taking the longest story finish. that story very clearly shows. so the users above oper, karmically to have more of an impact on their programs like nuts factors, we insured very headwaters and um there's, there's some issues and but again, going back to what i said, it takes us stable farms that are the normal resources in order to update systems and change practices in order to fix those issues and we're getting there, but nothing happens overnight takes time at so johnny, this is not just about agricultural practices, there's something much deeper going on here. can you explain? because it's there's, there's a rift between the indigenous communities and the farming communities. joey, tell us more. yes, and this is as difficult for me to say as it is for an agricultural producer, the here we are unable to implement solutions

which are in the fields and in the irrigation ditches and in ecosystem and habitat restoration. we are unable to implement those solutions because we are blinded by racism. we are, we keep trying to undermine tribal treaty law, water law and weaken the endangered species act. and we keep kidding ourselves by saying this is an efficient irrigation system. when it isn't, it's over a century year old engineering with no for thought or consideration, that water is a finite resource. and here we are in experiencing climate crisis and there is not enough water to go around. we can't say that we're efficient irrigation system. when we don't even meter are consumptive use. so we can't, we can't claim that to efficiency. when it's not we, we don't even know our actual use usage. i'm from and,

and that's something that i, that's difficult to. um. yeah. and i, i understand where you're going, um, but i can tell you this either percent of the water you some by far as needed. and i know exactly how much i'm putting, how much i'm putting where and i can look that in not, but not all forms. roy and stereotyping forms is as bad as, as stereotyping. any group of people. and there's, there's a shift in, in, in, and you can definitely see more and more farms are updating and becoming more modern in the practices. i have a gary, i'll tell you, would you agree that that, that the producer is the farmers and the indigenous people probably agree on 85 percent of what needs to get done in order to fix the basin in terms of more

restoration in around the lake and, you know, support for farmers but potentially to have more flexibility in some of their contracts. there's a whole long list. what's frustrating for me as an, as an observer is that i think that there's a lot of agreement. but there is this sort of sense of tension that stops that agreement from happening there, there can be, um and i know, you know, 11 comment that was made was. ready that there's, there was a lot of broken promises to the indigenous people and, and there's something else that i'm in complete agreement with because i haven't promised from united states government that say yes, we're going to deliver this much water to your farm every year. so thank you have a right to that, and so are both victims broken promises sites of any if i just made his help our audience, he may know of seen when the war to stop the the document. yeah, i highly recommend you watch it. it's streaming right now. i'm the samus of the

homestead, as, as they were, were told by the federal government at the time that they could have an infinite amount of water. you can come here and farm and you can have as much money as you like. the indigenous people whose land thanked and live on to walk on to farm. so also told that in the lake that they could have an infinite amount of fish that belong to them. that was part of the treaty. federal government promised to things to, to different communities. and now we have climate change. and now we have a situation where those policies are not being hacked or whose promise is should be cat. first. that is the climate just as part of the conversation. a, do i want to go back to what you were saying? well, you just brought up racism like this is racism. i want to bring in, i a fall mccord leroy, and then we can just have him steal ourselves, how he talks about the indigenous people and this conflict that is going on right

now. here he is. my, my work with them. you know, have you ever tried to work with the gimme with the what? a gimme. gimme. gimme gimme gimme. that's like working with the dr. gimme gimme gimme gimme. they don't give you. gimme gimme, gimme gimme show me why? countless conversation walk out that. that's an example of why and the road blocks we have we, that's he, the humanized us to the point of a gimme. and that failure to recognize us as people or the failure to recognize the strength of our nation to nation treaty is preventing us from implementing those solutions in the fields and those irrigation does a irrigation systems were fighting the wrong fight in court. i'm

for decades irrigators have tried to come after our water rights, which have been reaffirmed water and treaty rights, which have been reaffirmed in the court for the past 20 years. and at this point, so much time has passed that we in response to lever his comment as being a gimme. i think that we are legally affirmed in our position and morally confirmed and valid. there is no more room to give. we are in crisis. if are locally and globally, we have as few as 50 to 60 harvests left before complete oil desertification. and so not only are our tribe trying to preserve this resource for us locally, but globally implementing more regenerative agriculture solutions is going to save

humanity. we have to find solutions, and the 1st step is addressing the strength of our treaty and acknowledging the injustices we felt. yes, i'm a go ahead. i was just going to point out that, you know, i think that the route of this is the fact that these promises that were made are not all able to be fulfilled at the same time in the current regime. it is important to realize that the treaty is 864, and most of those home setting promises came later. so if you're going to look at and that's how the courts have tended to look at it, is that 1st in time, meaning the oldest promise takes precedence over the newer promises. so that is why you might hear people say, well, the tribes hold all the cards when it comes to water because the courts have said that they have the 1st in time right to the water. what's tricky about all this is that we're suing each other. instead of getting together and coming up with solutions that work for everyone in the basin,

that's what we really need to be doing. and everybody would rather be working together than suing each other. so it's really frustrating when we get stuck in the cycle doing each other. i mean, i'm wondering if i could come a weekly. yeah. but let me, let me tell you this to you because steve country is a retired farmer drawing one he's drawing on his wisdom. this is what he told us a couple of hours ago. who is? peter is older, the crime is based on water conflict is for the diverse communities of the basin to work together. no political or legal process will create a durable and just solution until the people that share the climate bit river work together. seek political leadership that brings the parties of conflict together. what to media that does not portray villainy, or there are people only trying to survive, both farmers and tribes. the key to our survival will be conservation, innovation adaptation, and the problematic realization that time passed is not time future. does that

sound reasonable 1st by then jo, a bang? absolutely. it sounds reasonable me. that's what we've been hoping for for a long time and joey of course, absolutely. and i think to get to that point, we have to agree that we are fighting for the same thing, which is how do we farm this region so that both our fish and our farmers can thrive. and that, that answers right here, boil house it, and i said, that's also what he's showing to us. i'm just showing you healthy soil. and healthy soil is healthy water, healthy fish, healthy ecosystem. but we've been so embroiled in court battles that we haven't been able to focus on implementing the systems and the solutions that will unite us

. save our, our agricultural industry here and dave, our ecosystems in our fish. he'll our communities like that's ultimately we are all just trying to survive. can't drive gas i, i offered up this conversation to audience on youtube as well as watching on tv comp resort. say to very quickly, let's make this a speed route. this is stella, dora fellow doors says the native indigenous peoples are not the ones who contributed heavily to pollution for climate change, let alone misuse the land instant reaction from you, emma. i think that's largely true. i think it's also true that we're in a unique situation, the climate based on that, that our own soil is so rich and nutrients that it's polluting the lake, just the volcanic soil around here. so it's wetland restoration that's going to save us an upper basin. another one, this one i'm going to put to you, been cutting edge best practices, inefficient irrigation and land quote,

management of the lease that's required and greatly appreciate it. your thoughts as a farmer? my, my thoughts as a farmer is that i when i went to this typically i'm related to climate change that your did it i your culture to hurley, sustain border. good night culture like we have here in the climate basin is one of the few ways that we can translate our food supply, agency, fetch climate change, and i figure that we need to be her, be part of the solution. and when need be economically healthy and healthy communities are do that. i'm going to bring this up point up to you j just very quickly again, on my laptop we were talking about this whole show on twitter and, and we looked at maybe this way into the conversation is racism at the root of a water war in oregon and an estie says, probably it is america. joey, can this problem be solved?

it must be thought we, we must solve our problems locally because they are a microcosm of the what we're facing globally. yes, they can be solved or else i wouldn't be here. and. and have the confidence to speak of it speak of these issues. but when you think about agriculture as a whole, i 98 percent of america's farm land is owned by european americans by white people. so only 2 percent of americas farm land are owned by people of color that in and of itself. sort of example of buys a problem. when i see you nodding, just very briefly as we wrap up the show, oh no i, i, i agree with that. that's um, you know, that's, that's a fact and i don't think that we should hide from our history and so things are

valid. and in the past they said that, you know, i've heard talked about, or i'm relating to the climate drive, you know, there's, yeah, there's huge problems in the past. and i think that we need to acknowledge that so that we can work from it. so really don't repeat those same mistakes in the future . i really appreciate you having us very candid conversation and have a role on right here on the stream. joey and ben and emma, thank you so much. thank you. on you too, for your comments. no questions have a look, hale my laptop. the reason we started this conversation was because of a fort lines investigation called when the war to stopped. and oregon town at its breaking point, doesn't say much about the climate crisis. and america today to check it out is currently streaming out. is there a dot com and that sasha, for the date i can, i see next time. ah

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