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oh l g 0. 0 oh oh, oh oh. oh, you watching all 0 people are gathering in sedans. capital as an agreement is reportedly reached to reinstate deposed liter abdullah. hum doc as prime minister conduct was ousted nearly a month ago when the military seized park on dogs, house arrest is now said to have been lifted. now i think we can go across to the presidential palace where russell so does lie for us in the hall to talk us through what is happening in the palace at the moment. dressel
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well it's considered as a breakthrough. ha. so where just a managed to got into that presidential palace, that the whole that the ceremony as going to behold and the agreement to be assigned. you have just seen that the ministers have a right and some representatives off the political parties or so how would just are right people that are keeping the bread and bit him for mr. the i was the prime minister of the la hon, duke and the army chief general of that around also to, to, to get into this, this ceremony a whole, so a steel. i'm better the concerns of course, that whether there will be and in last minute committed cancellation or not before . now, what people hear and that the officials here are telling us is that they have agreed on some certain turns and the, the agreement will be signed. maybe within, within minutes. so just before getting to the presidential palace, we have seen that a people, thousands of people from various the fees are gathered in front of the presidential
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palace and the security forces of were tearing gas and nad and shooting in the air . also to disperse them so it has been a long marathon since october 25th on there had been several attempts international and domestic attempts to find a way out of this political that look what recently the could see, da da da da da da da da da said the u. s. secretary of state anthony beacon was in region and he urged for an immediate of the restoration of civilian government led by prime minister of the law of the prime minister after law. hum duke and also his assistant. that molly fee also was in the heart to him and she met mister of up to for that would hon and being insistent on at particularly abdulla i'm looking to be back in the office. so now we can see that finally, now there is a, a, an agreement about to be signed. however, we do not know whether these agreement will be able to ease attention. yes, kelly,
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the situation in the cities or not because apparently a, some parts of the f, f. c, resistance committees. and some of the political parties such as on my part did they already have exposed the rejection to the deal. and they said they would, will not negotiate. they will not accept any beal power sharing deal with the army . raso you interviewed, the general of the fata, overhung for al jazeera, that was an exclusive interview. when you were talking to the general, did you get a sense or did he give you an indication that he was willing to bring in more civilians into some sort of power sharing agreement to be able to move things forward in sudan? well, especially ask him whether he is in negotiation with her miss with us to her, our prime minister of the lamb. duke. he says, yes, he is with the negotiations with a prime example of the of the lamp that he's, he doesn't have or objection. 4 up the lamb looked back in the office. however,
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he has throw at difference between up the lamb duke and did the ministers in their previous governments. so he simply was saying that we do not have the problem with the lamb duke, but the fractions within that that the government was leading country into. and so called a civil, a civil war, and that's why they needed to take such a step or like a military conduct a military coup. another hand, he during the interview, retreated several times that he's committed to the wrong to the democracy. and he is not keen on hold in poverty forever and says that they will be a government of technocrats, leading the country to the elections in 2023. so however here the problem is that just are around 2 weeks after our, my interval with general up to for that will hand a she has announced a formed a sovereignty council. and among the 14 member of that, some of the council, there was no one from the previous government or the civilians who have been with up to
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a 100. and that raised the concerns that the mr. an artifact that will hand is not willing to share the power with the civilians over the we can see now that there is, there are the things going back to the track. and what we know for now is that up to a ham duke most probably is going to be back in the office that also have been pushed by the usa particular land international community, such as european union and international organizations such as you an however, for now it's not clear whether any member of the previous civilian government are going to be represented in this, this, this, this, this new government that up to hum duke is going to lead. so in that sense, concerns are there what i stand at the army particularly a general of to for that one is, is flexible to share the power and an went up. what was, what are going to be doing to decisions? and the responsibility is empowered or after law handle that or the question that
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still needs to be answered. but however, in any way, it is seen as a brief to if the deal is signed here in this, in this hall at the presidential palace today. and we are just waiting for that. as i said, people have gathered here, journalists are here, quality should their representative of the political parties are here. the officials from both sides here are here and have just seen the deputy or from the asa prime minister abdulla hm. duke also is now here and there waiting abdulla hum, duke and also the army chief there that there the head of the sub center council general of to for that one or so to arrive any time. russell, thanks for not very much for now. obviously, if there's any indication that signing is going to go ahead, we're gonna come back to you. this is a picture that has been issued, which i believe shows our prime minister, former prime, mr. abdullah 100 with a general abdel fata all behind. i'm not clear exactly where that picture and a is supposed to have been,
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but it does seem to show both men in the same room. i don't have any indication about where the picture came from or the date of it, but it certainly seems as though they are m a in they are holding with some sort of talks at some point. let me just remind viewers who might be just joining us about this possible agreement, which may see abdullah hun dog reinstated as prime minister of sudan. it comes after weeks of violent scenes, or tomb and other parts of the country. sedans, military and the civilian leaders have been sharing power since a long time leader omar bashir was removed from office in 2019. but in the months that followed both sides blamed each other for slower reforms or worse in economic crisis. and corruption that's led to big divisions in the transitional government and the situation they get worse last month after general general under photo hung dissolved the interim government and detained civilian leaders. well, let's speak now to to holler at hell who's are joining us. oh, hello,
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do. thank you very much. indeed for being with us on al jazeera. what do you think is going to happen in sudan if this agreement is signed? well, i think quite clearly that the street is not be at st. didn't come out. you know, to protest for the baby. oh mama is the key, needy elite, all of the release of, i mean it was to who or, and, and to the mid you the gemini, in cities on it. not for taxes. and immune and disagreement is mom looked like it will realize that you still don't know the exact details. and it does seem like every time that you know, tweak status quo a content to your thoughts on that and yes, but it doesn't. she does result in, you know, the military going back to the sort of security blow to security average. be sure
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that most likely will see the speeds continued. how likely do you think that is that we are going to say the military start to on pick itself if you like, from controlling sedan and how quickly would that, that have to happen to avoid a return to the violence that we've seen in sudan in the past when the new guy is we're going to see any doctor, the violence that we've seen of late and you know the clearest evidence of that right now. as opposed to me with disagreement. we see protested right now, and they have been to the parking lot violence just this past week. so i mean, she does seem to be as an ad coming into the go, she's unlikely to negotiate an agreement that will not gain unlike them.
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that are really nice political together, they will have to be some incentive structure built into any agreements either is one or coming. i see them a place to be retreat of the kids because so much of the international to mom and been centered around the release of the prime minister. and so i wouldn't be surprised to see the assumption by that military leadership, media release or not to persuade in the those committee money that transition to, to be able to come back. and i'm going to satisfy the speaking there is that very, very powerful domestic than they will need to negotiate. let's talk about that international investment. do you think that that is really based on or solely based on the removal of the military from the, from control in sudan or is there some sort of middle ground do you think that could be reach some gesture of good?
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well, if you like that there's this coalition that's being put together at the moment might be able to show to give confidence to international investors and those giving aid that the money can start flowing in again. i mean, what, please going back to the status quo is no deterrent because we've seen last hurricane and ministering to have to demonstrate that it is willing to a control over the economy and to alaska. i'm actually going to see that immediately. i'm not to be sure to see that in the next week or so. it all depends on the weight is not particularly strong. whether the community requires the presence of a civilian or technocratic government that it can deal with, or whether it requires a more genuine body towards those have been in rule. i think the immediate thing
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that we need to see is that the house at the current capital, which was we did, and the past few days after that you need that to go. and you can take that have been leadership which was was going to be a long louise, i think in the military, i'm just not sure if we're going to see enough. i think the international community, in terms of opinion, transition is much lower than that of the street or how you're managing partner of the think tank, insight strategies, partners and strategy partners. she's been talking to us from our to him. thank you very much indeed. i want to speak now to sarah w. she's a former spokeswoman for the sudanese professionals association that organizations condemns the military takeover and call them people to unite and resist. she's joining us on the line from england are good to have you with us on all 0. what's your feeling about this agreement that may be signed in the next few minutes or so?
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thank you for inviting me. obviously this agreement present, there is no transparency about what that is in time as well. that has been no public consultation as the people on the street as this is happening, launching the audio hot tool, but nationally and the request continue for a city in the government. and this, and that's only 3 days after a week or 2 place on the 17th of november. it is very clear that this does not i will not reflect what the people released and other active pro democracy groups. and defenders i dwelled there is a major concern that after a military coup, because the, the 100 not dissolved,
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this is was and i'm calling to check on change of power will not be subjected to any accountability for interrupting the transition of democracy. i'm forcing people just to follow what they want. i don't think an agreement can take place with someone who's under home arrest and people are arrested and you've been killed . this is a biased, unbalanced unit direction or agreement. and it will be rejected by the public. the people sit on the majority, i understand that the the house arrest conditions for dela honda had been lifted about an hour or so ago. we have seen a picture that had been issued earlier by the sovereignty council press. that was the 1st meeting of the presidential palace after abdullah honda had been released from the rest. now later on today. so let me ask you though, as a business woman, as somebody who is responsible or has a lot of contact with business,
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people in sit down, talk us through what kind of impact this has been happening, having on the economy and on business in the country are we talking about the period after the call, yet just after the crew or the extended period, the weeks following the time they, they the dissolution of a transitional counsel, to be honest with you, my interest, my focus is actually on what's been happening to the injured people. on those who are being killed and the ongoing call for blood transfusion and that stuff support is more important at the moment and i quite understand what would be the international community talks about business. but i don't think this is more important than human beings being killed. let me in that case, let me ask you about the level of, of injuries that we've seen as
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a result of the violence that sudan has been going. so what kind of pressure are doctors and nurses medical stuff in sudan under given the violence that we've seen very, very, very significant were december 2018. so far there have been 40 people killed with less than a month, 100 of injury, serious injury, division of hospitals, of residential homes. this is even worse. what happened during the revolution and i just to point out about the international community. if they feel that such a unilateral agreement with the condition of military council and the pro in guys, groups will bring stability to sit down. so let me tell you this will not happen and additional doctors will not be achieved. and there will be back to dealing with a regime that may be dealing with terrorism. like in the past, simply,
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this is the counselor lucian. this is probably coming back to power. and therefore, it is very important to highlight that they should not ignore the voice of the people. the people are on the street. now as we are talking a 1000 different cities over to down, not only in hot asking for the government for justice, for accountability, and i don't think they are listening side of the valley is talking to us from the united kingdom setup. please stay on the line because the story is obviously going on. we understand in fact, but we can see some of the, i believe that sub conduct and general the fact that i'll be hon, heading up to towards the, the table in the presidential palace. now we can see them settling themselves in. this is in relation to
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a possible agreement which could be signed in the next few minutes, which would return the deposed to me to dollar hom duck. as prime minister, i understand we have a translation. listen, then you a law men, amaro saga thought, eden. oh. obviously the opening remarks of the opening or procedures there in the me the run up to the signing of this agreement. let me very quickly go to our corresponded hip morgan who is live for us in cartoon, and has been following the reaction on the streets hebert. this has brought a thousands of people on to the streets in cartoon heavily. yes, indeed. people were planning to take to the streets initially, even before the news that there will be an agreement between prime minister and the military make out. now the reason why they were taking the 3 plus because they wanted to show the minutes that they don't want to be ruled by them and that they want a civilian transitional government thing with the release of prime minister him and
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the rest of the senior political figures who arrested now a spirit, this agreement that is expected to be signed shortly between him and the hon. that is going to happen. prime minister will be reinstated back to his position and the senior political prisoners who were arrested on the day of the 2 over and in the following days will also be released. and they will be returned to that constitutional declaration. that power sharing the agreement between the military and the civil in coalition. but the civilian coalition here will not be a part of that. now for people on the street, that is a big deal. they don't want to see the military share far with the civilians. once again, 4 weeks now since the take over rob, they've been asking the military demanding rather than the military, be on the sides and not a central prep layer input and politics. they said that they wanted a complete civilian government, not a government, similar to what was in place on october 25th. when general hon. dissolve that they say that the military is not to be trusted. and if anything that the events of the 25th and the following days short them that the military will not cannot be trusted
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to handle parts of civilians when the time comes to do that and they cannot be trusted to organize election. so following the news that the dean is expected between the 2 sites, people have taken to the 3. the anger that was already there and very palpable, has become double. many of them saying that even if he comes back, that is not going to end the crisis between the people and what hon. who many people see as the reason why mister mac tried to transition, or rather to dance back. quite a transition was cut short, many of them say that if prime minister does indeed sign a deal after at least 40 people being killed over the past 3 weeks or so. and more than 200 people entered, demanding a retentive civilian rule. they say that if i'm to goes back to a power sharing agreement with the military, that's the betrayal i'm but even then they would stand against not just general behind, but some doc himself ever for no, thanks very much. indeed. while we're waiting for that signing process to begin, i want to go back to santa abdur gallia, who's a former spokeswoman for the sudanese professionals association. no,
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her organization originally condemned the military takeover and called on people to unite and resist the sorrow. if you're still with me, let me just ask you, we're seeing thousands of people as hipaa was talking about on the streets of cartoon. one would imagine that this is being reflected in other parts of sudan as well. what kind of resistance would you want to see from people who object to this signing? so molly, so i think people into that and we continuously have been online and which we are very paragraph, historically to debbie. but these are please forgive me. we actually have a translation from the presidential palace, i apologize for interrupting. so let's go to that now. let's see, believe you own it, ladies and gentlemen. i will read out the elliptical agreement that will be what i saw immediately after being great. i will get them in the name of a law, the mighty, the political agreement that we have settled,
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the hovering danger over our country and the threats to the transitional period, nevada and in the wake of the continued conflict among the political forces undermining our countries. unity and stability. and since all the initiatives have failed to address the recent political impasse which led the armed forces, he commanded to take certain measure on the 25th of october last month. and considering that the political crisis requires a great deal of wisdom and sense of responsibility for both the parties to this document have bled to work together to restore the democratic goals and to serve the country's national interest. and also to avoid
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blundering into the unknown or harming the countries unity, peace or security. an order to complete the transitional period until we reach an elective civil government, which cannot be achieved in the absence of harmony among all the political forces. they use women resistance committees with the nomad, the displaced. and that is that in order to exit the current political crises, and on the basis of the resolution made by the armed forces, the commander it is agreed upon. the following. it is agreed and emphasized that the 2019 constitutional documents as amended in 2020 some forms. the bases are whole, completing the transitional period, taken into consideration the special status of the eastern part of the food then which should be addressed within. and that's another context to maintain our code
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and integrity and instilled peace and security, satisfactory to the needs and the 2nd set confused. so document be amended on the mutual agreement to ensure the inclusion of all the parties. with the exception of the former a ruling party, the national congress. existing civil military power is heading. the. the current transition period is the lynchpin to set to dance, security and stability. but such partnership should be maintained and the commitment to forming as 7 in the graphics government on the monitor for the inter him. so brain t council said continue to oversee the transition as an article 8 of the constitutional documents. without intervention in the executive
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process, the power shall be transferred as a schedule to an elected civilian government. take that transitional period shall be governed by a political declaration defining the man out of power sharing that partnership among all the parties, the military 7 forces, provincial administration. they use women at a balloon and the religious dignitary 7th in the us. yet the recently incident that took place during protest including death and injuries of both military and civilians, should be under investigations on old found guilty should be brought to justice and tried before court. cynthia 8th. what's the job agreement for peace shall be put into force on all the non signatory parties shall join 9th, to speed up. reinstating the stated institutions by way of forming the legislative
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council because it use little care a court door and also appointing the chief justice and chief prosecutor. other institutions shall be formed all this, reinstated, immediately within a specific time limit on the 10th and national dialogue, inclusive and transparent. you shall be initiated, encompassing all the political society and revolutionary forces as a step towards forming the constitutional conference. 11. it is agreed upon the necessity to restructure the committee responsible for disbanding and eliminating the remnants of the form and redeem and that elephant professionals and experts be brought forward to enable such committed to perform effectively and justly. and to have its decisions, refused, and appealed in accordance with the law. yes,
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12, all political detainees shall be released by 13 effort shall be exerted towards forming our one uniform and unified national army 14th. by way of assigning this political agreement, the decision made by the chief command of armed forces, relieving the internal prime minister from office, shall be reversed, signed by general. after that had bron chairman of the sovereignty council and dr. beller ham duke. the enter in prime minister the document ends and now it's time for a signing ceremony and
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cream than ever one on the unlikely by nashville got chairman of the sovereignty council, the deputy chairman, members of the council for the leaders of the executive, popular and political forces. ladies and gentlemen, may god's peace and blessings be upon you all. and up there in the glory and mercy, thought for the martyrs, the ford in the martyrs of the revolution. who made this moment possibly louder. i should begin saying that because within that country, the sudan is guarded and preserved by a middleman, god almighty, and whatever that we reach the ed dead, n hadn't the my fellows, sudanese people are capable of restoring our country back on
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course was the most glorious moment following, and that of the independence was then when we came together, united in october 1, 964, april 1, 985 and december 2018. when i then accepted that destination as n and tell him prime minister, i realized that the road was not strewn with roses. it would be a daunting task. however, that fraud by risks and dangers. however, by joining hands we come old.
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