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icy and wherever we reach that are in a dead end the my fellow sudanese people are capable of restoring our country back on course. this was the most glorious moment following, and that of the independence was then when we came together, united in october 1964, april 1985, and december's 2018. when i then accepted of that is ignition as an and term prime minister. i realised that the road was not strewn with roses. it would be a daunting task. hover that leaf fraught by risks and dangers. however, by joining hands we come all at each
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a peaceful shore. we can all prevent our country frome. plunging. p r the, as an into the unknown. we should all come together to let the people decide who will he take and hold the reins of power because he shall, okay. signing this framework. political agreements will all pin those to address all the pending issues of the transitional period over the past 2 years. and under this partnership, we have managed to save a lot. we've brought back so then into the, within the international community lifted its name from the terrace, blacklist and many other shipments. however, we still have many challenges laying ahead, but by our union unity and strong. well, we can mark forward as
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a sign this document would i guided by 4 basic principles, one. when we pull we must put an end to bloodshed. i know our people are capable of sacrificing, however, each drop of blood pressures. let's put an end to the blood bad and lead, spare each and every drop of blood are human. this agreement will break the tension and take us through the bottleneck. we will restore the democratic course until we see the permanent and last thing. democracy. also, this document paved the way for all of us till been tane and preserved that siemens we had over the past 2 years, whether in peace economy. this is
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a very important point to bear in mind. 3rd, and this agreement on a monthly well for to fly our efforts towards a several democratic transformation. half of the system was the model for up chuckling zealand and he has it and guess the minute easier the limit was still less than i thought about the mental health of the month and it has a lot on coming years of we should know that there are many honest men leaving within our neighborhoods and within the reason i enter national community, we thank old boys who lent a helping hand and we are prepared to work together to march forward.
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thank you. once again, and may god be some blessings be upon you all. and luckily we give the load up to 2 general labs and for her you said direct man, the chairman of the sovereignty cancel and the chief commander of the armed forces than him on la them on mighty the most fun i salute to my country, men and each and every corner of the country, you deserve all our appreciation. when you said, example of sacrifice and fortitude, i salute you as your honor euro pollution and i salute you as you
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defend your revolution. and this moment represents a clear defense of that of illusion. we salute old who have made efforts for preserving this moment and also we extend all appreciation, while all our brothers and friends who stood by our side since the beginning of this political crisis, it has been long. and today we believe by signing this political document. we are paving the way for a true democratic transitional period as pictured by ourselves and by the people and as what you invested just at the beginning of april 2019. we thank all the sudanese people and all the efforts and sacrifices made by our
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fellow sudanese, we are adamant to remain united, the main harmonious how's it. and it is our custom to have our own differences result amongst ourselves. i also extend all thanks and appreciation to those who have been exerting maximum efforts following october 25th. they have been working day and night to have this crisis resolve. many of our friends were acting as intermediary and exerting all maximum efforts, including dr. handled himself as that is the political empathy with that which was in the past. we made it necessary for me to take action on the transition and take the
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actions i had taken in the past was quarter to 2. once again, i extend the old tags and i'm until dr. de la ham duke. he has always been, he has all was the subject of our confidence and respect. meanwhile, we are aware of all the sacrifices made by all the city and his people. and in order to preserve any drop of blood, we will continue to work towards preserving the transitional period until all your dreams of democracy, peace and justice received. com. so that we can, over the past 5 or 6 days, a group among ourselves have been what's called a maximum effort, including our brother i've that i have done who has done all in his power
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together with his wonderful off brothers. all the credit goes to them for reaching this agreement, and we believe that this will pave away the way for a totally and please transitional period with a lot that you would, if we had and no party will be excluding, with the exception of the former rolling party the national congress. we will give the floor and room to all the political forces to take part in the process. and once again, i extend all tax and appreciation to my fellow sudanese and pray to god almighty to accept in his mercy the fall and martyrs. and i pray finally that god will guide our steps forward to march forward until we reach at transparent democratic
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election. and peacefully and safely cross the word still tell civilian government and total democracy. but thank it all behind this one my namely dr. abdullah, ham duke who was not far from us. he has been close. he has been patient with us and with him we have reached this moment. thank is to you all your to we are. does it are we are in sudan when an ream it's just been reached and signed to reinstate to pose leader under the 100. as prime minister, we've been hearing from general abdel fata albert han, who led to the military takeover of the sovereignty council. as it was just
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a few months ago and saw the hosting of abdullah hancock as prime minister just as i say, a few weeks ago previous to that prior to that we heard from adela 100 himself who has been returned as prime minister of sudan. i want to bring in my one bushera who is our senior political analyst, my one you've been following the story for a long time. let's just talk about what the 2 gentlemen were saying there. first of all, what stood out for you. well, 1st of all of that are not prepared, remarks. i mean, since a lot of it seems to be improvised in a way to the importance of the event is the event itself. nothing that was said was that important? it seems to me what i, what was not said is more important than what was said, which is how did we get here? it seems like both leaders wanted at every cost, to avoid talking about what just went down the last few weeks. ah,
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did oberon apparently again improvising just say that, well, i had to do what i had to do because there was a political impasse that any thick kettle does that really justify a pitch of that nature that we saw? of course not. there is a bit de cilia listen to the event, i must say. because as you said, following this thing over the past a few weeks, at least not to say, months and years. clearly that general ah, you know, no longer smug as he was few weeks ago after the cool or has basically backtracked on everything. how did he backtrack? why did he backtrack under what pressure is it the pressure of the street? is it that pressure of the international community? is it the pressure of his own our lives in the region? of course, would we're not really sure i can analyze that, but we're not really sure. so clearly both leaders wanted to move forward. so i
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miss a handbook and i was a bit surprised by his herb at, you know, light that remarks about what is what has gone down and busy the saying, look, let's move forward. let's in the bludgeon, i think of course that. so a very responsible statement from the prime minister. i'm not sure whether the street is listening or will be listening because clearly, for most people on the see the sedan, like a lot of us observers will be asking the question, what guarantees are there that the military are going to respect this agreement? certainly did that, not that respect. the last one. let's talk about the reaction on the students. because obviously earlier on we were seeing crowds of people were being told it was thousands. but we don't know how many thousands in comparison to the size of a city like cartoon, and certainly a country like sedan that could make a significant difference. but they are dull a 100 said we must put an end to the bloodshed. as you mention, do you think this is going to be enough to satisfy the people who been out on the
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street? well look, one of the most important things i have to say about this as an observer, as an analyst, is that this is a situation in flux. this is an evolving situation. this is an event that is part of our process. we are now in the midst of the process. i do not from my experience looking at situation like that, i do not believe this is the end of this story. absolutely not. so clearly the prime minister, maybe he got some assurances from somewhere whether it is from washington patters gayroll. i don't know where that you need to start moving forward. and as we move forward, we tried to figure out what to do because i think it was point. i can't remember exactly which point is it, but i think it was probably a point 6 or 7 that said something about that. we're gonna be looking at the, at the, at the transition as we move forward. so this is definitely gonna be an evolving situation depending on the, the balance of power. and in this sense,
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straight to your question, the street is going to have a lot of wit. and clearly the street had had a lot of influence over the last few weeks. the bloodshed did not come from the seat. of course, the blood should mostly come from the, from the cit, from the security forces. one of the most incredible thing about what happened in sudan over the past 2 years is that this has been in its essence at peaceful revolution. what we saw in 2019 and in 202010 would have seen just the last few days. or should there needs beschler going out with their own, bare by these, trying to protect their achievement variables. and the military was viscous. quit. so once again, i would say the following, there is a pressure from the street, but there's also and i, i must underline that because it's important to talk about other issues. when we underline that, we're that when the international committee wants to put pressure,
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the pressure works when the united states, when europe, when the african union put pressure on the military incident, it worked. so when we look at other situations, let's say i don't know tunisia for example, or other places in the middle east. clearly international pressure, coupled with popular pressure, does bear fruit and the 180 percent 100 need to sorta how do they degrees? a reversal by the general sedan is at testimony that nonviolent popular pressure works that the international committee has a role to play, that the likes of the united states that says that we put to human rights and democracy at the center of our foreign policy when they actually deliver on that. there are results in as we've seen today and had gotten my one stay with me. i want to speak to some of her alma bark. she's a spokeswoman for the sit in his professionals. association abuse is joining us now
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on the line from a cartoon. thank you very much indeed for being with us. i don't know if you had a chance to hear either of the speeches that were being made at the signing ceremony. i just want to ask you what you made of what was going on. well, for us, any, any step that's going to keep the military in our going to keep the military having a political role, it's totally refused. so many people have been out on the street, stating that we want the military back in the barracks. this is what we have been saying this october, the 21st. it's the voice of the people that's going to make the difference. all these agreements and everything that's going to keep the military and power is for us both any off no regards. 9 we are now out on the streets that are focused all over to them. and for us, this is totally refused,
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is not going to put an end to bloodshed. because if it would have put an end to blood said it would have done that in august 2019 the bloodshed after august 2019 group that the minister is not to be trusted for the security. all the lives of the nice people for us was think clear, we want the military out of the political life is that we will not recognize and we will not do all the go, she ation and what has resulted out of it is absolutely no regard. if the military does not step down in the way that you would like, if this is the situation in sudan going forward, what would you want to see from the transitional counsel as it is in a moment with the conduct as prime minister with the general general fashion behind at its head. what would you want to see from them as if you'd like a gesture of good faith and dedication, but they are prepared to try to move the situation forward. her there's no just her
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of good faith after the bla check for this is what's not it's done. we are we have we want the lives of the 40 martyrs that have died in the past months to come back . can they offer that this is adjuster of good faith? why the cool from the beginning? if we're going to go back to where we stop work to the partnership for us now it's high time that we move on to complete civilian if they want to give us just a good faith, give us back the lives of the faulty market that we've lost in the past 20 days, give us some back. the help of the injured and all what we have gone through in the past months. this ministry cool, and this combination that we have see is it fails combination. it's not to be trusted. we do not want the military in the political life than any more. this
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partnership for us it's just collapsed, totally collapsed and there is no way of performing. there is obviously going to be a period during which people are going to be waiting to see what the next move of this transitional counsel as it exists and at the moment will be how long do you think people entered on the prepared to wait before their patients ones out well with this revolution has been ongoing for the past 3 years. i think we have a lot of patients, and we have a lot of patients with our willis. beyond that we go back right now. there's too much, let's say, that has taken place for us to step back. now it's not, it's not that simple. and apart from that, we have this entire group and whatever has the results is out of its legitimate it's the end of the day. it's what the people of that one and we have continue,
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continue this fight and we will continue the struggle until our complete transition, our complete civilian transition. and we have stated this year, we went out in 2018 against the dictatorship for us. all the science that we have seen in the past month in the past 20 plus days have shown that there is no way that we can trust the military to be part of the power. again, we cannot trust the military, so not retaliate on the activists on the political leaders. it's a matter of being are not being anymore. and i believe and we have proven that we are willing to go long, however long it takes. d setbacks, we've always come back and we're very diligent. then we're very determined that we want this transformation to take place. and we want this transformation to pick out
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all militarization off the political life is out of the picture. the only way that we can transform into a company, democracy is by washing out the military. we've given the military enough time to step back. if it came to the table with the fact that it's going to provide security, it failed us. it came to the table with the fact that it's going to be a guard off the transition and it failed twice in doing that in the massacre of june, 3rd, in 2019 and again, it failed in ok. so on october, the 25th in 2021. there is no 3rd chance. we know that enough is enough. i was talking to odyssey the senior political analyst mom and the shot. he was striving in his assessment that this had been to all intents and purposes,
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a peaceful revolution. it had been a series of peaceful process. what violence there had been, he said, had come from the side of the military. if you are, if the people on the streets are not getting what they want from the structure of this transitional council, how far do you think people are prepared to go to change things? the most unique thing about the movement is done is that it's the most we have come to, to realization that this peaceful protest peaceful demonstration, however long it takes if, where we all win at the end. if we slip into violence, we know we know the cost of finance. we've seen that with experience that was before with experience the separation in our country before and we know how, how high that costs. and that's why we know that this fight divided is coming from
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from the military side. and from the security side, the different security forces in power. yes, we know that the cost off heats demonstration is much lower than slipping into violence. and we are all very well aware of that, and that's the, that's the, that's the secret ingredient. continuation of our can to, i'll power the stamina august to be revolution somehow about it. we appreciate your joining us and i'll just, you know, i'm thank you very much indeed for your time. well, the agreement we just signed comes after weeks of violence seems in call to me and other parts of the country. sedans, military and civilian leaders had been sharing power since long time they don't. omar bashir was moved from office in 2019, but in the months that followed both sides blamed each other. the slow reforms, so worsening economic crisis and corruption that led to big divisions in the transitional government. the situation got worse last month. after general abdel thought all behind dissolved the interim government and let detained civilian
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leaders. now in the past few minutes, the newly reinstated by marcella dela honda spoke of the presidential palace and ways to take the country forward. liza was that i looked at only garland to mom and when i 1st accepted the designation as inter and prime minister, i realized the road was not strong with roses. it would be a daunting task, brought by risks and danger. however, by joining hands, we can all reach a peaceful place. we can all prevent our country from plunging into the unknown. we should all come together to let these people decide who will take and hold the reins of power. okay, will bring in our diseases senior political analysts. again we're one of the shock he's been with us on set through all of this. we have some hero, more bought a visit, saying that really the, the only said solution is one that allows us to all win in the end. but given the circumstances, given what we're hearing, that seems like a long way off. yes, so as i said, we are in a situation that's evolving, we are on a flux, and i don't think what we heard today is the last word. if anything,
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everything we heard today is so vague that it opens up different doors to different possible scenarios. but clearly now, what we've seen today in the last few days is now the women. tim is on the side of the street. the momentum now is on the side of the civilian component of the establishment, sudan, clearly that generals are on the defensive, otherwise they wouldn't have done this really embarrassing 180 degrees reversal of their position. clearly there's an pressure from the st. clena, there's pressure from international community. clearly there is an important, indispensable pressure from the african neighbors from the african union. and all of that is important. i just need to on the line 2 issues, one that the military has been dominated genitals in particular. i'm talking about they've been there, they are part of the old regime. i mean, let's not fool ourselves about that. they broke away from all bishop, when they realized that there was such
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a momentum in 2019 that they said they're going to join the civilian forces to generals in this case, they said they are going to make the change of the lead that which under the name of democracy, no democracy is made through military cool, with the way we've seen said 3, i think it's important to note to underline even that the last year or so, it was the manipulator towards that journals who were in charge on the oh, what the economic policies and decision making, not the civilian government. so clearly if there are any troubles in sudan over the last year economic and otherwise it's the responsibility of the military council, not the government to. i think what we've seen from the government was some important the chief mints in breaking out of the international isolation, bringing sudan back into the fold and allowing sudan to, to get hold of over 2000000000 dollars or foreign age 75700000000 of which was frozen when the quoted to happen. so clearly that journals are on the defensive,
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clearly that journals are, had been mistaken. clearly that jenna was in that assessment that this could go through if they could only maintain a power for, for a few days. and change some of the decor in the, in the sovereign that gossip. everything would be okay. everything is not okay. as we've heard from the activists in in hud tube. and that's very important. that after 1011 years of, at a, a pricing's at a bit of lucian's on so forth. clearly, the example of sudan is to night is thinning out to be an example to follow in the sense that people power peaceful on the street. more pressure and more pressure and more pressure and try to bring as many parties together as possible in bidding coalition is that way forward not unanswered on, but in the region, in general. wellman, just bear with me for a 2nd cuz i want to talk to a resource, so he's talking to his live know from caught him at the presidential palace where
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that signing took place. russell, what kind of atmosphere was there when the signing was taking place and tell us who was there but will perhaps more importantly, who was not there while the atmosphere was quite tense here. and even similarly, you can see that there were 3 man just in the front of the camera to signed a new agreement. and 2 of them are the members of the mediterranean because one of the member of the military and the other one is the head of a strong paramilitary group in sudan, which is called the for the rapid support the forces mr. committee himself. so we can see that the balance of business every a muse nivia agreement is quite in favor of the military and that is heavily affected and dominated by the military. and the could see that in today. mr. hum, to was not quite happy about it, but it was rather
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a stop the t can based on the feeling of the responsibility. and also during mr. after for that will hand speech or so we have seen that he has tank mr. hum duke several times and on the line that he did that, that, that, that great achievement has been made through the negotiations and also based on mr . handles goodwill. however, here, there are lots of uncertainties. the people that you're talking to here at the people are close to mr. de la ham duke. and also even to this, i wanted to cancel the say that there are several uncertainties in this agreement. we can see that the constitutional declaration is still going to be the basis for the transitional pay period. however, the constitutional declaration that has been signed is going to be amended are also on the de mitchell agreement for the inclusion of the all parties. we do not know what, what is going to be, what are going to be the point of this new agreement. and the, did the power she ran between the army and the civilians is still the backbone off
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this agreement. and this someone in the counsel is still going to be in charge of overseeing all of the decisions or the at, during this transition period, which gives a tremendous amount of over to the army over this. did the government of a technocrat flat by abdulla hum, duke, and also the po shall be the says that the po shall be transferred to civilian government as scheduled. but however, it's not clear what is going to be the schedule. what's going to be the date of a fate and free election for now, in a previous interview that i have conducted with mr. up to photography, he said that it, that the election is going to be taking place in 2020, i've ever in this new agreement, the date is not specified. and also i'm a new political declaration is going to be defined and announced later. and that is going to define the manners of power shayhan and a partnership of all of the parties. so.
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