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. on november 28th, they will vote for a new parliament. will this election bring long away the change to the country? her your phone books, special coverage on all the 0 hire for me. ok. today on the screen we focus on security. any gander a week after a deadly attack in cam paula his alger series, catherine, soy, police and soldiers in compile are prepared to go out on night patrols. there's a coffee in place because of coffee 19. but the patrols are now more frequent and thorough. falling attacks by 3 men who detonated explosive devices killing themselves and other people near a police station and parliament. last tuesday. we are going to take a look at the arm groups who were responsible for those attacks. and then also,

what can you can do to prevent more tasks from happening on youtube? you can be in the comment section right here, your comments or questions i will put to the guess. let's meet your guess. hello andrew. hello, general marie, how are you for me? and hello dino jello for me. hello, everybody. so good to have you here. i'm going to get each one of you to introduce yourself to our stream audience, so they know who you are and what you do, starting with andrew with a welcome back to the stream. andrew, remind our audience, who you are, what you do? yes, i am. are called andrew melinda. i'm a journalist from compiler you grandeur. get to have you genuinely, please introduce yourself to the stream audience. yes, we're major general demaury v. i'm with the minister of security in uganda government the to have her. and hello, tina. welcome to the conversation. please tell everybody who you are, what you do based in my review, i'm the director of the african program research and international. thanks to

and i thank you daniel. thank you andrew. all right, so let's start general who sean the attack attacks last week in cam? paula, what do you know where on the 16th of november to to get a tax in the city of compiler. and then another one which never took place. the 3rd one and 2 kiddos just blew themselves up. kidding, 3 people on the spot and the 4th one dying in the hospital where he had been rushed for the treatment. the side one in the sub compiler was wristed

after being shot. unfortunately, he died later though he had given us information. so that's the walk. that's not the who's our general is it? do you know? yes. these are where it be if allied democratic forces best in the d. c. congo, where the come throng. you can create into the country and to cut out a tags from those bases. ok, the connect could do with the i c 's since 92019 and we'll just bring in andrew here. andrew, often the motivation of our groups on the general public is to create fear. are you seeing that failure? feeling that failing uganda right now?

yes, of course. less buildings in november 16th. there has been have been security across the country. have many friends who are not afraid to call the area suspecting that they couldn't remember that the whole idea of the internal isn't that there is always a college. you must make people be afraid, and you must government to act out of it and perhaps become better depressive in order to attract support. that's the strategy, terrorism. and if you should happen, the government, the public is anxious about the mix up like is going to come from that. can you help us understand? we had 2 groups mentioned the i liked them a credit for things we had, i saw mentioned, can you explain to us where they fit into an around you can to why they seem to be

operating there right now i this is for this is for dina. you know, go ahead well the ela a on route that originally was born in uganda. and then since ninety's of the 2 thousands was repelled out of the country. moving into easton, democratic congo, way settled in a mountainous region where in story and then further towards the towns and cities or even pros, at particular around the bay area. and over the period of mid to thousands onwards . the on really went gorman's for quite some time and only really started researching 2013 in the congo itself, where it's activities were marked by rhetoric and killing all over that section of north human products and and city center. you know,

it has developed contacts and relationships on other i'm going to easton from lou. there's also been in contact with members of the democratic republic of congo security services, search, crated, aware of, of interest. extremely difficult with the un mission there to get a $29.00 team, the main faction, which is the overwhelmingly lost fashion. the arm under the leader was something as has associated xanax. it. it's a rendering a new chapter here, apparently where foreign fighters from outside of the r c, from uganda and also from other parts of these africa tanzania really have moved into those accounts. and over the last year seems to be developing the technology technological skills to do this kind of attack and also trade lessons. those

individuals in uganda may be responsible and the advantage of doing it that way, that in a, our group, candice easton, come far away from your services with actually control. they're able to disseminate technology via vacations, by phone ass, telegram and so forth. sure. and then set up these kinds of jackson baseline. yeah . all right, general, i'm going to talk about some of these are tactics of the arm group. so currently focusing on uganda. and this is theresa mexico who is a security analyst talking about the change in the way the attacks are being made. general police have a listen to grace and then react immediately of the back of his comics hearing what you had seen before was that they will pick bombs and press them or 2 places

like in restaurants or bars or throw they might move in vehicles. but the actors will not stay there or throw them and i will run away. but now for the 1st time now we're going we're seeing a pattern of homegrown suicide bombers who are known by the local communities. wow, good families. we've been carrying out these acts and these are in the age group. it's almost like running around that, the youth you. oh sure we, it's a because on that actually now for the 1st thing we learned as what it might be got there. it. they never before where it is true that they are ugandans a young. but we know that this is kara, is it d of has been a recruiting younger ugandans, minute period, t,

and good them the extra to take with them. i now we are all what they are going to do when they gave us time to call and go, they force them into the kid. i just activate teeth. those who resist all attempt to escape in front of the other recruits m t to the cold foam and then the indoctrinated the radical i use it and it they can, they are sent into the country. they are told how to use improvise. the exit explain a explosive devices which they use and we believe those who die in the blast,

suicide bomb us. however, there is a stronger likelihood that some of them may be sent to cut a items they don't know. and they did. they did by remote control and a kia soul. i don't think that is it kings. within this society, you'd say the, the, the program over the d f to recruit young people to create some service within the community. and they say that the people to cut out these kid a start tags, but they've instead of hiding you stand cornwall and stuff like that. so what do you describe in terms of strategy gentle? i'm going to go to youtube because there's some questions that are coming from our

audience. you're watching right now. and you, i want you to tackle this one and bounce off the back of it with your. you will take what you want to start. the journalists being based in uganda, mich corner, says, you gander will be the terrorist. what evidence is there of uganda beating as, as mich says the terrorist andrew? well remember that if even look a new to you and it has been active, but i've been, so doesn't have you gotten to for the last 25? yes. now that the government of uganda has incredible experience in competing calling jesse's and also conducting reason of different ships, including adf and the kind of experience the government of uganda simulated over the as the ability to clinic for those. and to be able to understand where those being and where they are planning the facts.

remember these little stuck? i think one of the window was a buddy of the, the biggest good for general police guy in uganda. there was a tell us who are supposed to look at the body. he was sitting at the bottom. even when you observed the video carefully, you will notice that it is very likely that people who duplicate these booms, you put on the cutting them. they did put them in the hops, hearing that the pieces were on the heels about them because each one of them delivered the bomb window. emotional one was walking. another one was crazy, but it is also possible that if possible concerning a little later was a distance from the possum coming to the in which case the bus and also realize that the services were closing on them and they needed to be immediately. so we have sufficient grown to believe that the. ringback services have you gotten the

given the along expedia, to come back to reason how can attract the adf sales in the cumberland. so effectively, that's difficult for the terrorists to exercise or to do the walk with a lot of freedom. and that is why the cars were there. it in the last 2 bombings, i spent a lot on the 3 civilians actually died. yeah, the 4 people who died themselves and it's rare to see it. there is the back of the phase than skill a topic. uganda, how? because like, and i think that could explain why there was what, how do i where that was in the hills. dana, let me put this to change because there's some disbelief from as he was watching the i saw is operating or impacting groups who are coming in to uganda. thoughts. i would not say this is just your specific problem,

the regional problem. and this is the news about the region over the last decade. as on the go on number of terrorist attacks. where on the uganda actually 201020 to 2015 in 2018. but for the, the, out to the money on which i had sent across the reach. now what we see is a the arrival of a nicer snap. and there are a number of other conflicts in reaching where i says been sort of trying to associate itself. where is the conflict in northern mozambique? there's also isis faction, very north of somalia. and better we start seeing the association da da. now research that we've done shows that there's actually inter linkages between

verse 3 nodes. the great lakes loads around d, r c and uganda versus malia. an amusing, for example, that in cases of mozambique viruses coming and getting training that we're aware of . and we, and we got was july weeks is in the camps or spoken to on the down side and old will. so that was on the inside where they went, moser reconsider training. there were also aware of communication between i suspected him with a plan and those who may be responsible for this morning. so we were talking about regional issues yet to the comment that was made about, you know, there was only a small amount of casualties. yes, this is true and my goodness for that the count account was, was, was only for us to say it could be much bigger. but what we're starting to see is networks that are able to start. i mean, prices should be noted that there was

a string of bong bombing attempts or sold arms that we're going off in campbell for several weeks. there were 3 notable of that one behind the police station, one restaurant one on the bus. that role is associated with another calling to official investigations and it appears that this new isis network, that is, that is making itself is more visual now is learning has its doing, spreading the technology and it's not just in uganda itself. it was another problem uncovered in next wonder. he's also highlighted money prices who can be fighting with the f. b coming back home spreading. so i'm hearing the thing. there is a network that's collaboration happening as far as our groups can said gen movie. are you collaborating with your,

with your cohort in these different countries as well? do you have an intelligence network? are you just doing in a silo and uganda? yes, we that is fairly and go into yes, especially with the d. c. because that's where we have the interest that create the fund based so that he's got a but isn't the discussion. and it is true that. ready this program meets with our regional and international and there should be quite a bit ation in shedding intelligence about the same group. by the way, i should tell you what, i am suspicious that the that that the through setbacks in uganda. because the government, the call was the government of uganda to send the cook speed to come back.

and i think it's not a coincidence that the time when the government, the, you've gone to people's defense forces. are they gonna be doing this in the back? and i think about the start to go be of service attacks if they become paula, is to draw the security and move the attention of the government and i will from back to you and. and they felt i, i'm suspicious strategies to actually stop because of your gun does or disrupt the government if you're going to deploy, if a call back is right after that, if you want. but also remember that the ice is standing on little electrical extremist islamic program, but it is not the program because you just couldn't run the large part because once you've gone to the on the question, most of them. so the question,

the minute the country, but other than, but even the muslim community in, you know, i, i not excluded from the political process such a degree that they can support the kind of actions that the abs and so once to employ in the struggle. so i think that the, the ducks are not the evidence of an organization that is up to kicking, but i think it's a despite the organization that could be a laser, uganda, and yet it's like, let's go by them badly and then they will have no place for next week, because i'm not gonna be very difficult for organize the data because they seem to stay in the eastern regional the com. i wanted to. yeah. did you go ahead and go 2nd, go ahead. yeah. yeah. you know,

the point that he was making about, you know, you can as possible intervention the aussie, it's worth noting that amongst the suspects were arrested next door or a connected to be one of the, one of those has been arrested. that a said that cell was brought in to bomb harmonic spaces because of wonders, intervention in mozambique. so this is classic, a book, you know, so in a way as a class, if you had a space where you provoke the authorities to come in and to, you know, to either myself, military actually, or to promote them. it is undertaking more military action. and the jury slot, whether those that kind of intervention, military intervention,

either the r c or mozambique is really work or, or is going to eradicate the problem. got to the other solution brought to the table a week, a. so 11 i could not get to it. then i want to ask the general one more thing. it's not often that we get the gentleman lazy on the screen. i really want to ask him one more thing, andrew, be quick. go ahead there. one thing to note about terrorism garza is 61 or role political struggle when they make it good to see the economy power order for the buying force. terrorism loses its appeal when it's, i think it in the midst because this is, i think he's fighting it is the government effectively benefit society? and i said that there was, that is why,

because these are difficult. whatever isn't succeed outside of the context of the current, the current or for no tradition they weigh the americans knew racquel. i mean, let me make that really think we make enough specific point about what is happening . uganda today i want to bring in the play spokesman, who was at a press conference just this week in cam, paula. and he was also in criticism about how the authorities were looking for people who are involved in these attacks. not with enough care, and too many people were being killed, as they were being looked for. this is how the police spokesperson responded. one to return to that a said persons are not targeted for their beliefs, ideology, religion, if any city and any other attachment because that

would make us to the security agencies or peer bias the public should know that we're only targeting those individuals and groups that are having goods or of course for them to engage or of facilitated baggage, mental acts of violence including tourism and other violent crimes. again, as to guidance gentlemen as a, what is your strategy for making sure there are no more attacks in uganda or fewer attacks in uganda? yes, before i answer that question, i wanted to supplement on what day and room where they said that the the muslims in uganda do not support kiddies. and in fact they have been the victims of a deer though as if pit of killings over shakes. ah,

because they had rejected saturdays and supporting adf. now the strategies we are using, of course, include our mobilization of the population to deny them recruitment i, i area to talk to our people, to the young people, not to be manipulated into being taken into these activities. all right, so gentlemen, always leave right at the very end of the show. thank you so much for being with us today, andrew dino, thank you also for the comments and questions on youtube. we really appreciate you . this is where we're going to wrap our look at security in uganda, and what outside of groups may well be doing. in uganda. this story is not over yet, but it is for today's show thanks to watching. i see next time

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