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hunting down rebels, uganda and troops launch an operation in eastern democratic republic of congo. there target, the allied democratic forces claimed for years of violence, but will and military solution resolve the conflict. and can the adf be defeated? this is insights story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm how them are here. dean, uganda and democratic republic of congo are joining forces to fight. so one of the most lethal arms groups in congo,

ugandan soldiers have crossed into the d. r. c to take on the allies. democratic forces, also known as the 80 f. the offensive began with air strikes on tuesday. the group is blamed for violence and eastern d. r. c. that's led to a 100 spin kills and thousands forced from their homes, with many taking refuge in neighboring countries. the violence is not just limited to congo. uganda says the adf is responsible for several attacks on that soil, including 3 of suicide bombings in kampala last month. not everyone supports this mission. so men, democratic republic of congo, don't trust uganda. they accuse kampala and rwanda of creating instability in their country. well, this is the area in eastern democratic republic of congo, where much of the violence is taking place. the provinces of north q and

a to re have been under a state of siege since may. it's the forest ferry that's difficult to get through. this is where the adf has its bases and high doubts al jazeera malcolm web explains why this will be a difficult operation for government forces. this is very difficult terrain to, to hunt down an armed group. that's using guerrilla tactics. and that's one of the reasons why previous attempts to flush out the adf, have struggled. the most recent one on the part of the congolese military was called a state of seeds for the last 6 months. and it declared this sort of form of martial law in north keyvi province in inventory province. but it's been criticized for not being very effective lead document showed that that operation been blighted by a military budget being stolen. one of the reasons that called some people, some people to call for the gun,

the military to come in. now to try and pursue the adf, but other people certainly have great reservations about this. let's take a closer look at the unlike democratic forces also known as the a. d. s. the owned group has existed in central africa since 1995. you can enforce and drove it off the country in the late ninety's and into the democratic republic of congo. its finances are blamed for killing thousands of civilians in eastern congo. and while the group says it's aligned with iso un says there's little evidence of a direct relationship. ah, will let sir bring in our panel of guest. joining us from come, pallor is gone. bert too shabby, the associate director at the great lakes institute for strategic studies. the lack of under val joins us from the hague. she is the project director for the great lakes region at the international crisis group and from

a butcher counter terrorism experience. david or sir, or to joins us now and thank you all 3 for joining this edition of inside story. i'd like to turn to you 1st david or so, because with this situation, it's good to understand exactly who are these countries are dealing words. so just who are the aides a year if and, and, and what do they want? yes, so thank you. the, the graphic for this, this is a group of 6 in the 90 percent, the $905.00 and bay seemed to come, you know, just during the period, you know, during the aileron which is the resistance army and you know, they, they, you know, they came out the who you know, you know, of protecting the interest of most lens. and since then they have worked locally

you know, up to establish plumbing, kind of estate sharia states. when you got caught us, we know that you've done the defense forties, kid out of you know, the many cities in, in compile out of the normal path and into me they then went into the power of the d. c. and most recently, they've now aligned themselves with the so called islamic state. and you know, according to the, and one of the leaders known as you said that in the central africa region, the court himself scott, which is the central africa province. so it is a group that stuff isn't so within the region, but we know that, you know, it's not just, it's centralized. they've got so many cells,

double grid within that region. been known to be aligned to song, written by they also known to happening with the new group that was formed in the mobile problem was a big so they have so many different conditions. but the truth is that the a much more be criminal network and from the socio i've spoken to graham, you know, the use of the flemish local or the tyson is just a way for them to continue to preach. and i do to go compliment to what most people have seen as a criminal network. so, you know, this is a group that i believe, you know, courage, symmetric attached as we've seen recently. and you've got about that also within the northern part of the congo. but i believe that during oppression, as we've seen recently, will be the best way to go about. but, you know, a conventional topics that we've seen in the logical way strikes will be very

challenging one, because you know, most of these has to be dealt with from an intelligence point of view. ok, but we really need to look into pretty well. we'll, we'll get on to the chances of success with this mission in a moment. but the fact that got to michelle be if i can bring you and the fact that we're now getting national governments launching incursions and other territories to take them on brother seems to suggest this is a critical problem that's reaching a critical phase. and what's your assessment of the impact that this group is having because they are, it is quite a deadly effect that they have had on civilian populations in the areas that not so much for having me. let me stop by say, this one of the kind of situation way i, you said

a number of countries have come together. i think it's probably inaccurate in the sense that rides from around 19959 to 6, when the foster war broke out in d r, a c actor. there were a number of countries involved. so from that time we have had multiple countries within the region involved in trying to deal with the stability is pantheon, including dealing with the f, d, f, and other and other militia groups within the region casa, is 20, or a, c is essentially a cocktail. all of marked felicia groups, some of them sponsored by the regimes within the region. some of them best gotta miss a lady by alicia in within the region. so and with an adapter in buffalo, that on 3 the regional countries under those features of the united nations formed

what is what they, the national conference of the great lakes region. this was supposed to be a platform around which all the countries will the region and what believes to be able to take a concerted up for us to deal with a stability and the con, the virus in dearest. all these countries have failed. and the reason i say this is that, as of now, are you gonna has moved into d, r a c? the idea is a major disturb rising, fucked up, but it is a lot of the ordinary militia group or terrorist group within that in the region. i think that the dominant narrative, which has been adf, is that there are still going to show that is going to cause a conflict in the region. has its own froze, because it ignores that but special order. these countries, uganda under one have been actively involved in the region themselves on and on different critics. what i would like sir tries to mobilize it, be

a fun other rebel groups like p, r i and others. and then there are also these groups of them. so, so i think that the, the fact that these countries are getting together, ah, they're trying to do with an old problem. and uganda are all going in with d r a c. without that, but special or the other countries that have been involved in the conflict, i doubt that it's kind of be a successful partition or we can, i think we can disrupt the activities. but i don't think that that would be the end of these kinds of incursions. because the problem, india is a much bigger than l d f. ok, and let me turn to you as an elective under val at the would you agree with that assessment? the adf is being painted as the bookie man here, but there are several groups which are having a destabilizing influence. thank you. and good afternoon. it's definitely the case

that there are more groups active in eastern d or c, but over the past few years, i think, i think we've seen that 80 f in particular has been making a lot of that lee victims in eastern dear seen. they killed over a 1000 civilians since 2017. so it's definitely a group that needs to be targeted. whether that should be by military means remains the question. because i've already pointed out by the previous speakers, any of has been active in easton, d, or c for the past almost 3 decades. and they have been quite opportunistic in forging alliances with local networks in eastern b r. c, with local business men, with the military, the kimberly's army as well. and by fortune, these alliances, they have been able to persist for these years. and we've seen the previous military operations have been quite ineffective in targeting area. they managed to recapture a camps that they previously lost to f, d. c, the comedies army. but what we've also seen is that they always retaliate against

the con, the least population after military operations. so we've seen an uptick in human rights violations right after the release authority stepped up military operations against libya. so no, definitely a groups or be reckoned with. i'm so well, that's fairly pessimist, strictly you across the board from from all 3 of you. so if i were to ask if this military operation is likely to work, i guess david's also the answer would be no. so why do you think the, the governments of uganda has decided to go when, if this is essentially going to be a few sol exercise? first of all, you know, if you're willing to that you've got to box and then you've got use it. and certainly, you know, when it comes to company that gives you a radio especially indicated you've got the where we've just seen su status has

been said by suspected the members, the government has to develop some level of trust within the you got of ablation, but also internationally, and the only feasible way of doing that is to say that, you know, deploying preemptive strike oil deployment for these homebound. so that is one of the 2nd one is whether this is going to be effective in any way. and, you know, most of the people don't really look at the effective visual strides that chris, well, they are very expensive. and secondly, as we've seen, you know, it's very likely that it will have any impact at all. because these are groups that embedded themselves, you know, for the kids, but in the local population they have information about activities that carried out the can see that got made deployed forties and those simply go into ground and find

very good areas where they can hide or manage himself, you know that area. so if you give us your horse, you know, in my opinion, the government needs that when back some level of trust, you know, from the local population that i don't know how long, but it's going to last. but i think the key here is how much collaboration and coordination is been done on how much intelligence it's been gotten. and what sort of rigidities about the capacity of the group in terms of, you know, the groups location. you know, well, even be the kind of for networks that a group was established. you know, this is the only way that you can disable it movement. you know, what caught down is logistics. you know, supply and ensure that it doesn't have the kind of capacity launch more tax. but with a group like india is going to be very challenging because this is about submitting warfare is not conventional. it certainly is, since i see you an elective under val and no thing along with that,

a big corporate to move to a shy b u. i blind into stripe just how complex this regional situation is. do you think that there is likely to be an element of intelligence gathering between ag, congo and ad between uganda, do you think that the fact that there we are seeing this military operation happening is an admission that the situation has changed and the countries are now looking to work closer together in a bed to tackle this i how do you assess the situation for me? i think for me, they don't with the only thing that has the changed is that the bombings that happened in the computer in the last one months or in the says that these aware bombings of been new intensity are this was the 1st time we're having suicide.

bombers ah, if we're, if what we are provided for in terms of publicly available information is accurate and therefore that's for me in terms of the groups that are opposed to. they didn't 2nd the government all day there, or there they are. the best got it is that these are the scottish and that of the virus that was in the region. but let me put it this way. that l d f, right from plan to for t in this country in uganda they have been high for fire as the nations of our muslim colleagues. almost more than 10 of them have been afflicted in very, very r movie lifestyle. they have been officials of high ranking minister police, so after i ranking police officers and all of these have been blown n d f. so the i did the fact that now a uganda is moving into

d r a c. i doubt that in the situation has changed so far in damsel the understanding of where the of is goes right now, other than the gentleman. good bye, look, that is known to be the leader of the group. that there is hardly any publicly available information on the profile of who are, who is a dear, what is the it's leadership structure? who are they active participants in the group? and therefore, to the extent that they base the limited information available, my visitor, our way these are the attempts to improve all day on the, on the human intelligence doctor could live this kind of a partial. i don't think that they have crux of it. the real problem, i think that to the extent that d r a c remains ah, what is like the at he sent out conflicts in the region. because let them just quickly say that you, this region are the great lakes region of africa is and it is the cause of the

region your gun learning is that, sorry, i am sorry to say the a bit before. yes. this region, it's seen of so many conflicts. and so they said that absolutely the problem stems from the governess question that all the countries with right from the 19 that the mid 19 ninety's, when there was fighting against the lead, wouldn't to say the circle a, b, r a c for might. as i hear it, there was a breakdown of states in the region from d, r a c, to uganda, to wander, to so sudan, and she done the marion. this is a breakdown of state institutions. and therefore, when you have break them, you have was a military and a militia groups just imagine going over the place. and that's the problem that needs to be solved. i don't think that just even if one was able to procedure. but

if the strikes and bullies incursions that you are dealing with the crux of the problem, which is the whole problem of pick up austin and a governess. okay, am the lackey vandiver. let me turn to you as clear. this is a very complex background to the situation of very complex problem. are there any pluses that we can take out of this? i, i know i keep returning to the fact that uganda has agreed with the president of the, our seat for permission for this operation. to go ahead, is there anything we can take from that? is there an inkling of greater corporation between these states now or, or is this the, is there something that should be disregarded? yeah, that's a fair question. and i think it also relates to your previous question concerning intelligence sharing. i think what we've seen since president to security assumed

office in january 2019 in fact, he has been reaching out to the region to find solutions to fight instability and eastern d r. c. he has been in touch with you gander. he has been talking to poca gamma of rwanda. he's also been in touch of with president danny she in bruni. so we've seen that he put a welcome premium on regional diplomacy. their husband, intelligence sharing between the various heads of intelligence of the respective countries in, in the, in the region. so that has been happening. i think what is also important to note is but you pdf so the you got an army already was present in easton, d, or see in a small number to gather intelligence together with the f. d. c. the comb release, army this has been ongoing for months to prepare. i think the ground for what's happening today. maybe just to add one more thing is, but in order for these military operations to be effective,

because i think there can be some efficiency. and what they're doing right now is for both armies to also consult the local communities. because using the knowledge of the local communities can help by clearly defining the targets that the both the armies would like to hit. so i think that's necessary. and on top of that, i think there also has to be some sort of structure in place that will allow, i think, the rank and file of the adf to the mobilize. if there is a structure in place, we can welcome those that are willing to leave the group and find a solution to work with them as well. okay, we only have a couple of minutes left. so i'm going to ask the same questions. all 3 of you, and if you could be briefing your answers, i'd appreciate that david also how does the sense, how do you think this will turn eyes? i think the way it's going to be the way that the shooting is that we got to bring

the 3 dots into you know, the big what i mean bringing rhonda the article who it also you got that are we bringing rules which you know, i don't think you don't want to take even in the coin strategy. i think what we should be looking at, what's more, huge elementary coordination and collaboration between the, the conference but also to ensure that they have enough capacity and to remove the elemental bud lot, which exist at the moment. okay. got to, to michelle. how do you see this playing? i know that the, the culprit is the regional. they are vested interest right from for the individual president, but also the countries it's got on right behind on the original call for you cannot did we, these are there, buy it up for a month between you gander. and so until i see that international of the

region making progress in terms of the actions they have discussed and agreed including setting and action action intelligence, i can't really predict the, this is going to be just a disruption of the groups. we would be back here in another couple. we are talking about the same problem. ok. and finally, and the like a vendor vala. how do you see this playing? i see you optimistic and so we'll see this cooperation or will we be discussing the same thing again? 2 years from now. well let's see about that, but i think our base military operations can only be effective if they're very narrow focus. if there's a clear timeframe that was 70 and she said katie agreed upon. apparently there has been an em, are you that the 2 countries signed up details? the operations? i do agree with the others, but armed groups in eastern dear see,

are regional issues and with you bound the and rwanda not talking to each other. i think that's the main thing that has to be resolved 1st because boys countries are choosing one another supporting the a t s. so it can only be really effective if the region comes together. and if they find a solution together. ok? so a blueprints of sorts to deal with this conflict. thank you so much. all 3 of you for your analysis and your insights, it's been great to have this discussion and thank you to for watching. remember, you can see the program again anytime by visiting or websites al jazeera dot com. and for further discussion, just go to the facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a g inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter or handle is a j inside story and tell him how lucky themes for me and the whole team here at inside story is bye for night. ah

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