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countries across asia have reported cases of the new variance. the world health organization says vaccines and other measures can help contain the spread. and the u. s. has reported omicron and 5 states, including one person in hawaii who had no history of travel. president biden, as announced, tied to restrictions for international travelers. run a fight is variance with science and speed. not chaos and confusion. just like we beat back over 19 in the spring and more powerful variant deliver in the summer and fall. as result, we enter this winter from a position of strength compared to where america was last winter. and the last christmas you're the one percent of american adults for fully vaccinate this christmas. that number will be 7072 percent, including more than 86 percent of seniors the most vulnerable population. the bible and ministration has been forced to resurrect donald trump's controversial remain in mexico policy following a court order. it requires asylum seekers to stay outside the u. s. while they wait
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for the hearings. yes, section state anthony lincoln has met russia's foreign minister. so they lab wrong . as the divide between moscow and washington widens of ukraine. lincoln says he remains concerned as to what he called russia's aggressive policy towards kit and iran, as submitted to draw proposals to european powers, negotiating the revival of the 2015 nuclear deal. this is the 7th round of talks in vienna and that returning iran and the us to the deal and the son of libya's former leda. mammography has been given the go ahead to run in the presidential race. i found the slam. gadhafi was disqualified last week by the election commission because he was convicted of war crimes in 2015, but appealed. well, those were the headlines and he's continues a on al jazeera after the stream stage. and thanks for watching bye. for now. talk to al jazeera, we ask, how would you describe sullivan's relationship with the us?
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we listen copied, my kid is not over covered. 90 nesbitt, terrible demonstration of the failure to human. so we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter on al jazeera. thank. hello, i'm semi ok. it has been just over a week since we discovered a new corona virus. parent caught on a cron. he is what we know so far. let's take a look at a timeline 1st discovered november the 24th by south african scientists. 2 days later the w h o designates omicron as a variant of concern, bringing you right up to date. where are we now? we have confirmed cases and at least 30 countries say to day on the strain omicron and vaccine inequity. what is the connection between this variance and
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some countries not having vaccines to distribute to their citizens to day stream? ah oh, we have so many experts for you, dr. sonya. welcome, dr. regina welcome, agile. welcome. good to have you all on the stream though to sonya will you introduce yourself to our stream audience? tell them who you are. what you do? i'm some is why me not and i'm a pediatrician my training from india and i currently serve as the chief scientist for you. scientists actually off the world health organization is really good to have here, thus our geno. welcome back to the stream. please remind our audience, hey you all what you do? yes, i am regina. oh, see, i'm an infectious disease specialist and i work at the art institute in south africa as the chief global health officer. and i always get to see a child when to call him a child. i told you so as he's been following this journey of the pandemic since
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the very beginning with us on the string match, although officially introduce yourself to restroom audience, go ahead. let me to see, i'm actually brumbalow, i work as a public health activist against pharmaceutical monopolies. i've been doing it for 20 years and i will do india, africa, and brazil. good. see everybody. i won't tell you that as we're talking about a mechanics, a new very we've only known about it for about a week. what questions do you have? what concerns do you have? comments sections right here. i would do my best to bring your comments, your concerns to our guess some guy, let's start with you. what do we know about on the con in the week that we've known about it? what have we learned? thank you for me. at this point, i think there are more unknowns in unknowns, but what we do know good to go, thanks to the south african scientists and doctors and researchers. we picked it up . in fact, more time. i mean, i think the 1st cases that was seen on the 9th or 10th of november and by the 24th
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the already had several genome sequences. and had found out that this was a new betty and which looked very different from any of the previous dance, very different from delta of any to through from alpha beta. and that's why it was mentioned inside of investigating because they found a group of people in an education institution that had been infected. what we learned in the last few days is that it does seem to be growing rather rapidly. south africa is reporting a doubling of cases every other day. at the moment, a lot of these cases are, might infections, but hospital admissions are going up. so it looks like this variant is quite transmissible, whether it's more transmissible than delta or not, needs to be confirmed or can take
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a few more days for us to study that. and of course, we know that it's already in every continent in more than 30 countries. and i think it's a question of diamond countries stop doing that. genome sequencing and looking they find more at this time. we really do a lot about its effects, whether it's different from the previous variance and we also don't know about whether it can overcome in unit design. yeah. what we do know is about the reaction . we're very k on the reaction. i want to bring in a new voice into our conversation. this is vicky bally vicky bally has some thoughts about how the world reacted to this new variant. regina went to pick right off the back of the keys, comments his yes know the safe until or sex. and i think that really, at times when we talk about current lawyers and access to the vaccines, especially with the emerging of all these different parents, as i know for previous parents and hopefully this current billing and vaccinated
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people, even though they might get break from patients that are very mild, a much shorter time period for the bad fires actually mutate. so if more people get vaccinated and they should, it should reduce transmission. but even if there are these very few patients, it won't allow for january to have as many of these variants coming out. yes, i think that's, you know, the reaction in the world was quite disappointing in terms of how we approached it . i think that we are 2 years down the road with this pandemic, and that we've learned many, many things in those 2 years that we need to start applying. and i think one of them is that the tools we have now, i'm not the tools we had in march 2020. i think we have many more, you know, sophisticated tests. we've got vaccines, we've got a whole bunch of things that we can use. and we need to be using every tool in our
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arsenal to be able to really get ahead of the pandemic. and i think going back to sort of the jerk reactions, in terms of closing down orders and figuring out whether people are allowed to travel or not allowed to travel. and sort of going back to sort of the early days of the pandemic, i really think does not help anyone. and i think we need to start looking critically at what we've learned in the last 2 years. and what we can all do to really apply the science that we've learned and we need to push vaccines. we need to make sure that everybody is vaccinated. but i think no, as vicki said, nobody is safe from everybody's safe. and it's not everybody for themselves. i think we just have to be a little bit more. i have a view to solidarity and heather he to the fact that, you know, so far as we don't deal with the pandemic in all of the countries in the world. the other countries, the western countries of the global north is also not going to be safe. i want to play to use the south african president. so around the poser, this was on november the 28th. he basically calls out countries that immediately
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put a ban in place for south africans traveling. some was stuck somewhere all over the place and they couldn't get on the plane. they were stuck on the tarmac. this was an instant reaction to vary it that as built to some you says, we don't even have enough information yet, but yet people, what bad here is the south african president now these restrictions, arg, corblu, unjustified, and unfairly discriminate against our country and our southern african system countries the prohibition of travel is not informed by science, nor will it be effective in preventing the spread of this variant. the only thing the prohibition on travel will do is to further damage the economies of the affected countries and undermine the ability to respond to and also to recover from the pandemic. i remember if any last year it was an
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april president, i'll pull that along with a few other one to find a declaration of 150 people on it for people vaccine. i was one of the signatories . my wife said it was well leaders and me me think that i didn't do that to be there, which is true. but i remember most strikingly. i think that this is now one and a half years since people want to vaccine equity. and now we're living in the aftermath of not having vaccine equity. the thing that frightens me about the very end, and the reaction to it is what you're seeing is actually in an equity deep. and in 2 ways, the one is that you've seen across western countries, high income rich countries, that's just the plain language increasing authorizations a booster shots, an encouragement recommendation to get one in poor countries. renewed urgency to
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get back to me to it. and both these photos together create an increasing pressure on having even more vaccines than we thought we needed when we went into the band last year or at the beginning of this year. and vaccines came out. and so what we're seeing, i think, as an effect of the convey and if the existing vaccine and equity being for the deeper and if you were to those behind and you live in that area. now prieto's is behind the news from the photos is behind. many countries who have limited vaccines applied like india with africa booth really have the kind of food supplies for boosted every 6 months in the way that some of the recommendations exist today. and my concern really is on these tens of billions of actually going to come from because they don't exist today. i'm not so april 2020, most of the time when the w 2 decided to set up, go back along with gabby and set b and many other global institutions with
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a view to an end to end roach, support r and b of new vaccines and show that there was procurement and equitable distribution across the world to all the countries to 1st of the most vulnerable populations in each country before we start skating up and that we put a reduced mark on only that black work. and it didn't work because it was 41 axis, it was ordering axis and need a manufacturers northern countries with the manufacturing capacity within their borders. cooperated with this gilbert class and, and, and i agreed that we had a very dangerous moment. now, when the bank clearly just only cranford, start all over again, just ordering back scenes and, and not sharing and who likes to be deliberate about 600000000 vaccines. we had hoped to be about $2000000.00 off back seen out the door by the end of the year. but that hasn't happened due to all of these other factors. i have heard some
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horrific stuff of holding regina. i'm going to get you to jump in because i want you to share some of those stories because people will be shocked at what's going on behind the scenes. for instance, a country like botswana has a delivery of vaccines about to get to them. somebody else in a richer part of the world beats higher. and then those vaccines get taken away from the country that paid higher amounts po vaccine than they were originally being paid for, say in the global north. that is one story. but you know, when you show a couple more people understand what vaccine inequity really looks like before we do that, let me just show you a couple of key points and key stats so that your jaws will drop around the well, as you see this, not i guess but you view us 54.6 percent of the well population received that needs one dose of cove at 19 vaccine. 8.0. 7000000000 doses have been administered below valley. oh,
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nice. 6 percent of people. low income countries have received at least one dose. we are so far behind regina tell us a horace story that you've heard. now, i think you know, you can this, that's the clarity, plainly available. if you go and google it, you'll find all this information everywhere. there are countries rather than $220.00 per 100 people sort of available and administered. and there countries where there's been one, those 100 people. and so, you know, it is really a massive and very stock inequity. i think dr. assume you started talking about a little bit about the callbacks mechanism and why that didn't work and people didn't participate. what happens is that people will order, you know, the, it's about purchasing power, it's about amounts of money, of manufacturing capacity supply. and i think that what we have to be really careful about is, as well as that distorting is going on with the vaccines. but we're just about to
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get to put potentially game changing anti viral that are coming down the pipeline to try to help, you know, stop the progression of mild, moderate, covered to severe cove. it in people with risk factors. and i think that we're going to have a risk of but same thing happening with these anti virus that are being produced. first of all, the manufacturing capacity is not there to take care of everybody. so it's going to go to people who can, you know, have better neg negotiations that are purchasing power. the poor procurement that is happening sort of through different global mechanisms. people are just not really playing fair with that either. and so it's going to end up in a situation where on top of being vaccinated, people in the global well have access to very cutting edge therapeutics that people who are on vaccinated and therefore higher risk of dying and having severe disease from covered will not have access to and i think it's just going to perpetrate this
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inequity that is already really quite stock. i have so many questions for you on the chief guess i'm going to file a couple at you. we're going to do this as a rapid fire round, because then we're going to get to what you feel we should be doing now as an international community. couple of questions for you very quickly. i'm going to ask you a moses. so i'm going to put this one to you mostly wants to know, do existing vaccines work on amazon, or existing vaccines work against all of the other variants. and you know, we have to remind ourselves, it's a dental variant globally today. for 99 percent of infections and vaccines to prevent severe disease hospitalizations and death, we modify the disease, they don't and die infections. we, we think that these vaccines will still work best for me, grandmother variance because they elicit a very broad immune response in the body. is that going to be reduced or not both experiments in progress,
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but we do think they will have some protection. and that being vaccinated would be better than not, not having the vaccine at all. it question moses, my shoot has a question regina, i'm going to put this one to you. what would be the scientific solution for constantly new tating virus? oh, that's a complicated one. i think the scientists have been as sort of doing their heads in with that as well. i think the idea is to find you know, therapeutics that are, that are widely neutralized, neutralizing so antivirals, or actually vaccines that are actually going to be able to deal with several sort of are working against the epi tops or the areas that are common across many different viruses, so you would have less concern in terms of, you know, mutation of the spike protein, but it's kind of natural in terms of the scientific basis. but once you have something that works, the viruses that are not affected by that thing tend to then propagates. and so the
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real scientific solution is to get everybody vaccinated, reduce transmission, reduce the amount of disease that's for tomato ing. and so you get to the point where you don't actually have enough spiral replication to be able to transmit a mutant viruses. so it is a multi factorial thing. it's not going to be just one silver bullets. but, you know, i think people are working on all fronts, lots of ideas circulating on youtube as well. this one from aven ash kupta. i'm gonna share a, i'm going to put this to you. i shall. i like the muddle from indian airports where they have passengers with a negative test before departure. and these passengers attested again on a rifle, irrespective of the test status. could that be the future for all of us, for all travel ging up pandemic? you know, one of the things that's really arbitrary about the capital bands that they're not implementing good testing in order to be able to have people move that they need to
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without being inconvenienced by these arbitrary bands. but can i just say that i think what it leads to is this idea, especially in southern africa, but also in western and eastern africa, parts of central africa that the countries who have had the least amount of access to vaccine in the anti dummy among the countries were being punished the most for then supposedly perhaps origin aging or detecting a variant in the region. and i think that part of it is something we need to be really concerned about. regina talked about anti virus builds from luck and provide the much less well, it turns out than we thought it would defy the bill we hope might work as well as the say it will. these bill actually have much better access provisions than vaccine. so between $95.00 and a $105.00 countries around the world, many low income countries, including and africa, will have access to these through and arrangement with the medicine space. and
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because these companies have allowed, in the reason the same company, for instance, like fighter, if not doing the same thing for its vaccine, which it could feasibly also due to other companies to have the manufacture them at the same time is because they have a monopoly control over the vaccines beyond the intellectual property that there is no longer in countries or otherwise that can get them to part with it. and so the understand that and they're keeping the vaccine technologies close disallowing in many ways. but just food production of the fact that we could have which to the extent that they happen would, would remove the unnecessary and ridiculous barrier that arbitrary job of travel bad like the one that we're experiencing. cause i have a frustration in your voice actual it is an, as an all calm variant with, with such a speedy ability to transmit corona virus. as far as we know right now,
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is that, is that the tipping point is that when we just say okay, we need to work together. we need to pull either. are we at that point yet? cause it to yes. i find it really oh, you know, it sounds ridiculous. i know you don't mean it that way when people use the word to be buying ident through bangalore in april and me, andrew. yeah, yeah. officially, 4500 people are dying in june unofficially, anywhere between 2 and 5 times that number dying. and it was that not a tipping point. you know, it was the brazilian very and that was a proliferating in dance like my mouse and a drinking destruction. that was that on the tipping point, you know, was the you k very and prior to vaccinations even being a brought to market. was that not a tipping point? i mean this has been tipping point upon tipping point upon tipping point. right. and so for if you want to think that now is the time to rec, i'm very sorry, but the time to wake up was exactly in march 2020. when the ws are declared, the pandemic officially exist. i so washington, i'm calling this gangster science regina. i know it's not called gang society,
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it's of reverse engineering. ok. so you take the vaccine and then you work out how it was put together and then you make your own vaccine. this is karen fanta asked for after jen, who is doing this science in south africa, maybe if we're able to do reverse engineering in the developing world, we're not going to be quite so reliant on what happens from the rich. well, he says there's a lot that we've learned in the pandemic on it and it's highlighted just the iniquities backs that exist. but it's also given such a driving force to say am for african say no, we can do it like me. and there's major emerging economies. it's a growing continent and we can do it. gina?
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yes, i mean, i think she's right. yes, we can do it. but the question is, how much time do we have rights? and i think that, you know, a lot of the development that was done by a brown tech, pfizer and all of the big and medina in terms of the vaccine, was also funded through some public funds. people have stood in line to sort of pay for vaccines, but even then we're still not able to get them. and you know, yes, why would we have to then reverse engineer when they're tech transfer provisions that can be had that's going to take an inordinate amount of time and resources when the actual technology already exists has been elaborated and, and then is just being housed basically hostage so that we have to then do everything from scratch and i think back, you know, it's also not even as if we're asking for something that is, you know, proprietary into terms that, you know, it's not really for the common good, but everybody in the world is going to keep suffering from the covered pandemic if we do not get vaccines buddy and get everybody vaccinated and really sweet spot
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sharing that technology. and so the logic of that, so sort of really defies me a little bit earlier on the dream we spoke to that, something i'm gonna come right to you. i don't see the sports doctor hasha summary . she is a public health medicine specialist and her message to all schools. we need to be more sophisticated about how we're dealing with the pandemic. dealt to some. yeah. as soon as she's finished, i would love to hear what you feel you will message from the w h o l t scientists ship b to us as international viewers watching right now. hey, is how to summarize festival? in december 2021 as opposed to 2 years ago, chavel bands and just wants to a newly detected cove. 19 variant are scientifically christabel and quite naive. i certainly agree that governments me to do all that they can to prevent the injury of new cases and variance into the countries. and this can be achieved by mandating various public health measures,
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including ensuring that travelers approximated that they produce a negative coven 19 test. prior to departure that the screening and mosque wearing for the duration of travel and that quarantine is instituted at the destination country. got to some your what semester he want to leave us with as a chief scientist at the w h o. what are you gms out over the last few years to me is that science for d and produce the vaccines monoclonal antibodies, the drugs, the diagnostics. but there was also on a data g that was one mobile collaboration. and vaccines and other products, which seemed like, you know, we lost over 5000000 people. those are just the non cases, a number of much, much higher than that. these are gilbert public goods. and as a gina said, many of the early research that goes into the development of these products is
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funded by government. taxpayer money that goes into that research. and later on it's acquired by companies that then produce a vaccines and drugs. and we need to model a new model, and i hope that the pandemic treaty that's now being negotiated by the member states of the organization will take this opportunity to put in place mechanisms, process guidance, at least for the future, for future generations. if there's a pandemic again, that we need to develop products which are then equitably distributed. and so this dynamic, we've started work with technology trans, the hub to mentioned, the one in south africa. we're just trying to build a capacity to make and model vaccines. and to train d, i some other daughter samaya for bringing your wisdom, your insight to us on the stream. dr. regina, thank you as well. and actually it's always a pleasure having you. i mean, leave you here on my laptop with a w h o,
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