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0 is also says in dasa, our house in that building has come down little before in human history as a month for steven vaughn to the arctic po mm. mm. hello i, marianna demising in london, a quick look at the main stories. now, world health organization is saying the new corona virus variant omicron has been detected in 38 countries. it's been a week since the highly metate strain was declared of variance of concern after 1st being reported in south africa. u. s. health officials, a vaccine manufacturer, is already working on contingency plans, including the possibility of an on the con, specific booster. they do have plans that have multiple contingency. one is to wrap up the production of the vaccines that they already have. the next is to
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make, for example, a bio valence where you have the, a vaccine against both the ancestral strain and the new variant. and the other is to make a variant specific boost, the degree to which they're going to be doing that they are now assuming they may have to do that. and being prepared for that. south africa's health minister saying the country will manage on the crime without introducing you locked down. so variant is driving a surge in infections that with another $16000.00 confirmed on friday. for me to miller reports from janice back. experts in south africa, say the surgeon coven. 19 infections is the highest as seen since the start of the pandemic. and they blame the latest and possibly most contagious variant. ami kron . they want us that the variance would generally be in one transmissible. but most of the time they would be less debate as we enter the 4th wave with the new
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variance, we can see confirmation of this one. while people from this and other countries in southern africa facing international travel bands lockdown restrictions in south africa at the lowest, the government is instead urging people to get vaccinated. so fall 42 percent of adults have received a job with hospital admissions, mainly dominated by those who are not vaccinated. and young people below the age of 40, most of whom are not vaccinated. at this stage, we can say that even in how do we japanese for 70 to 80 percent of the new daily infections, we have not yet reached attending stages in terms of our hospital capacity and the new hospital admissions. the government says it has enough resources to deal with the outbreak, even in one of the worst hit provinces, how ting?
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the latest statistics show daily infections are growing. and health workers are also concerned about the high number of children. and the 5 years old who's been hospitalized the phenomenon of young children age groups as well. busy as pregnant women having increased infection, it kind of thing in the gated. we are hoping that in the coming weeks we'll be able to think of the reason why. busy this particular cohorts of patient is having increased in fiction, but officials hope that while the new variant appears highly transmissible, it can be managed. the government says it will continue door to door campaigns and community awareness programs to try to convince people to get the job. how the experts say the number of people dying from coven 19 has remained low because of vaccinations. and right now wanting 4 people tested for coven,
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1900 in south africa, a recording positive for me, the miller, i'll just 0. johanna, the book. iran chief negotiator is told out there that while powers working to revive the nuclear deal cannot reject his country's draft proposals. alibaba, connie says that because iran submissions were based on the original 2015 agreement and an exclusive interview. we also called for all nuclear related sanctions to be removed immediately. and lebanon's president says he hopes the resignation of the countries information minister will put an end to a dispute with saudi arabia and other gulf states george cardon. he triggered a diplomatic crisis after making comments about saudi's role in the war in yemen. it led to a bad on lebanese imports and the recall of the saudi ambassador york today on the headlines, the bottom line is the program coming out next? ah
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hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. the u. s. says it wants to fight corruption and promote democracy worldwide. but shouldn't start at home. let's get to the bottom line. ah, today we continue the discussion we started last week on the summit for democracy. the white house is hosting leaders for more than 100 countries to the virtual conference with 3 main goals, according to the by the administration fighting corruption, promoting human rights and standing up against authoritarianism. but with all the dark money and the questions surrounding the elections process and polarization in american politics, shouldn't president joe biden be more worried about the future of democracy right here at home. today i'm talking to sen. sheldon whitehouse, who's been a leading voice on fighting corruption domestically and internationally. sen, whitehouse chairs, the senate caucus on international narcotics control sen. thank you so much for joining. say,
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i want to kind of give our viewers in an understanding of the underbelly of a lot of what we see on the surface of governments in democracy. what are the big factors you've been looking at that are corrosive, that are corrosive here at home, that are corrosive internationally that you worry about? well, corruption is the big factor. corruption is money. and then the question is, what do you do with the money? because if you're a clip to crap or an international criminal, your one big or bad, or clipped a crack, or one bigger batter international criminal away from having everything you stole stolen. so the dirty secret here is that the corruption and the money that support so much of the evil in the world then comes and finds home in our rule of law countries. and it's in our interests, i believe, very, very strongly to clean that mess up. and no longer be aiding and abetting these.
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what george bush would called evil doers was selecting the summit for democracy. this is one of the pillars that were that the president, his outline of concern and, and i know that that when this summit comes up, they're going to be people are assembled where it's going to be one of the discussion points. how do you expect it to play out? are you going to be participating? do you think you think this issue, which has become so endemic? both here is a problem in the united states, but also internationally will you should see the reactions or show last week. people thinking, well, what is the united states are getting off on talking about democracy when it is supporting all of these elicit leaders around the world. and it's turning a blind eye to a lot of this corruption. yeah, well, we intend to be a part of that conversation and are working on exactly how right now. but i think what's important is that this is not just an opportunity to form an 8 that corruption is a bad thing. and scold countries that we think are corrupt. we've got actually look
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at the techniques of corruption, the techniques of hidden money done by these corrupt forces and in particular, look at ourselves and how we, how the rule of law countries and america specifically are enabling that corruption and enabling the hiding of the proceeds of that corruption, we have some cleaning up to do ourselves. now i occasionally turn on c, span senator and cease man for our audience is a channel. it's devoted to covering congress. you can turn it on. and you can see senator a white house about other members of congress have their own village. i've been, i've been watching you for years long about shadow players in the global political economy. you know who operate in in a, you know, dark way and looking at dark money. can you help bring that to life or a people? can you give us examples beyond the kind of big brand name corruption, can you go to it into, to some detail and give us, you know, something tangible that people may be able to relate to them as people have looked
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at this, usually from a money laundering. perspective, they have found for instance, child trafficking organizations based in europe owning farms. in the united states, they found buildings in new york city known towers in downtown manhattan, owned by a arrangements and arrangements to sewer sanctioned by us. and what you see is that the boundary between this dark economy that supports corruption, supports criminality. and our economy is very porous. and it's very much in the interest of the bad guys to get their loot into the protection of our rule of law. and they've got to do so secretly. so anonymity is the key to all of this. and being able to penetrate that anonymity and find out who is really
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behind the shell corporation, who is really the nominal, the real owner of the property, nominally owned by some fake entity. those are the things that we need to protect our national security at this point. are we going the right direction, senator? i was just reading about a decision, for instance, by the federal elections commission that allows foreign governments to wait on valid initiatives or foreign entities to weigh in on valid initiatives. you kind of look at this question of, you know, anonymity in politics in the ruling we had years ago in the supreme court on citizens united. i mean, it looks like, and then i mean, just to be honest, people look at the last administration and the opaque relationships that the president allegedly had with various potential russian players for in the oligarchs, etc. and when you kind of look at that and ask yourself, are there any positive steps coming forward other than the summit for democracy where they're going to talk about it? i mean, are you hopeful, are you? are you pessimistic? we just one in congress,
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a long battle to give the treasury, it's been sin, it's financial investigative group, access to what are called the beneficial owners. the real owners behind american shell corporations. that was a long fight. and the folks who make money off of catering to these people, rounded up a lot of the usual d. c players to fight us. but at the end of the day, this was a bipartisan when it passed into law of the last national defense bill. and the treasury is writing those rags right now. so that should be a big step back from the united states becoming the new cayman islands, right? where crooks everywhere can go to hide their resources. is that a complete step? no, we need to see the regulations and what else needs to be done, but that's been a big step in the right direction. while most of our dark money draft has been in the wrong direction, you know, one of the topics we've looked at on this show before things like bitcoin and
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crypto currencies and the role they play, either constructively and helping give a new architecture to how we track stuff versus what we see as, you know, cyber attacks and ransom attacks, you know, sometimes done in bitcoin or other crypto currencies. to what degree are these emerging, you know, non federal backed weather, national back currencies coming on. part of the problem is you see it, there is kind of the new aspect of it and it's probably the one we understand, the least. but anything that confers anonymity on a bad actor is the danger. and so when a bad actress able to use a currency that allows them to avoid money laundering investigations, that's not a good thing for either our public safety or our national security. do you think from an intelligence perspective or a financial intelligence perspective, when we see players out there, russian, oligarchs, or vladimir putin himself, who's reported to leave the rich person in the world of non transparent and sure
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here and at legitimate, very legitimate, he very high paid chief executive, but i guess the question is, do we have the awareness of where these assets are? why isn't the u. s. government playing more of a role in disclosing what it knows about corruption abroad, if for no other reason to create pressures abroad. so that those citizens and other countries actually because were waiting on, you know, leaks of papers like never had them all papers or other other happening or, and so your story comes in in a very full 3 d vision. when you look at some of these papers, but i assume that somewhere in the u. s. government, we know a lot of this. why are we so reticent about disclosing what we know about the so i wouldn't be so sure that we know a lot about him and i think a lot of what we do know about it may very well come through sources that we don't want to reveal because there's no obvious way to go to the cayman islands or to go
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to some other place that hides foreign loot very effectively and try to penetrate through. in some cases, multiple screens of fake corporate layering that prevent you from knowing who the real owner is of that asset. so it's not as easy as you think. and therefore, the way in as often somebody who knows something who was telling you that as opposed to being able to go in and investigate and you don't want to blow the source. so i don't think we put anywhere near enough attention on that aspect of the problem to begin with, which is one of the reasons i'm excited about the summit. but i also think that we've got limit that we need to deal with by forcing a new international consensus that hiding this dark economy that had the, you know, there to benefit, kept to craps and criminals should be as unacceptable as child labor. se one of the
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things that worried me year is a back about 911. and the emergence of groups like al qaeda was their desire to embed themselves into the governments abroad. because if you control a state, you can control a lot of issues that people don't, don't understand. and a lot of people have alleged that, that has happened with norco, trans national norco operation. so the international drug cartels have become as powerful or more powerful, you know, then governments and there you see the struggles in certain parts of mexico and another central american governments in kind of dealing with this is america derelict in helping those governments fight those, those, those situations are we in any way not doing what we should be doing on that front because once they do control governments, then they have a lot more ability and tools to penetrate this country. yep. i think we have been inadequate in addressing this the way i give this context is to go back to samuel
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huntington famous argument about a clash of civilizations and between 2 different worlds that we are coming into. only he posited that our class civilizations was based on cultural religious, ethnic divisions. i don't see that i see the clash of civilizations between rule of law civilization and the crap ta chrissy and criminal countries of the world. and if you look at what's happened, bad to america and the last couple decades, pretty much all of it has come out of non rule of law land. and we have not looked adequately at that as a national security problem and addressed it at the level that it needs to be addressed. it's a little bit like having a, some sort of, you know, bacillus or plague molecule when it's around, it's really dangerous and you've got to cure it and fix it. and you can do that with sunlight. you can do it. it's not the fix,
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isn't that hard. we just haven't paid enough attention to it. and the battle between rule of law civilization and it's adversary and the contest is one that we desperately need to win and we're not winning it right now. and so how do you fix it? what's the strategic leap or the fix for that? because what you're talking about is also a regular topic. i'm the show which is the corrosion here at home. the corrosion of trust in institutions are leaders. and the just serious doubt that, you know, if you're in a neighborhood and you've got a republican neighbor and you happen to be a democrat, your folks are going to think gravity operates differently. so i'd be interested when you see rule of law not work and you feel people somehow demeaned and left behind in that. do you worry about that here? yeah, and i think the way you solve that is 1st, you've got to see this as a strategic priority. and it very often is kind of the little puppy the tailing along behind everything else. and the foreign policy national security establishment, look at o, rush on the board of ukraine, such a crisis. oh,
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what's trying to do about i want such a crisis and things like this. the don't have a kind of moment to them. but are structural and are very important to get right because they will avoid that later. that's wakeham. all right, that's, that's reacting to where you want to go. yeah. so, so the institution that makes clipped, the crafts and foreign criminals able to hide their money behind rule of law protections is an institution that we need to and do. and if we do wanna do it will have a much safer and better planet how literate do you think the biden national security team is on this subject? i know you are out there pounding on this every day, and i don't mean to critique you unfairly. but there aren't a lot of other people with senator sheldon white house pounding every day on this. i'm sure you do have allies be nice to hear who they are, but are you sensing that president biden and his team are taking this as seriously
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as you are? yeah, i think that this administration has taken his problem more seriously than any previous administration has this conference, i think is an expression of that. and particularly if it's successful at raising the profile of this issue of cryptography and hidden money and our role in all of it, then i think they can really step up an entirely new level and, and be very, very effective. i wouldn't, since you've mentioned other senators water go without mentioning been kardon, who's been so effective in sanctions, the magnet, magnet skeet sanctions, particularly, and the sanctions regime and not interrupt. and it def, here describe that what the magnets he met. magnets key sanctions are for our audience. so russia found a guy they didn't like. and they basically deprived imprisoned him and deprived from of health care. and he died. as a result, they were able to steal his company. he'd been a big investor in russia,
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and other people came in and took over his company. and that whole operation was so rotten that a regime of international sanctions was developed to find the russians who'd been involved in that scheme and deny them access to banks and other institutions in the free world. so that regime makes a very good model for dealing with other bad behavior. trade sanctions and magnetic sky sanctions can put real pressure on countries that are providing shelter for this dark economy to not get off and to come clean. and kardon has been a real hero, i think, in that respect. yeah. and bill browder who is wanted ski ark and you know, was, was working on this now in my understanding is leading team is now applied to other governments as well. so not just russia, but more broadly and even got it expanded to the russian scheme to do
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doping in the olympics and other international athletic contests. so as a tool we've seen are useful, it is in works banding, it's use and it's there are ready to be applied to people who indulge the dark money cryptography regimes. we just ask you this question. i'm, i want to show you this, this chart. we're going to put this chart up that shows how, you know, whether most americans are going to trust the 2024 election. now this is slightly a different topic, but i want to get into it because it talks a little bit about confidence in the system that we have. and we show that, you know, democrats have 82 percent trust in the 2024 election coming up. republicans for 33 percent this election that hasn't happened right. it has not happened, but the level of trust in institution is so divided between these 2 parties. and i know in my, in my gut, that part of it has to do with doubt in institutions and feeling like the system is unfair to some fair to others. i or,
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or maybe you have other insights into what's going on. i think a lot of it has to do with propaganda. propaganda is an age old technique. the i did that in america were not vulnerable of propaganda is not justified by facts or rationality. and i think people are being very heavily propagandized about this. and we happen to know that alarmed us propaganda actually originates overseas. we've actually caught the russians sending propaganda through us communications vectors and into our population. so we know that it is happening and unfortunately, we are not effective at defending our firewalls against then stuff. because the very same channels that allow russia to propagandized the public or the channels that allow, for instance, the american fossil fuel industry to propagandized the public. and so to indulge our domestic propagandized ers and let them hide, we've kept these channels in place that let anybody hide. and that's just
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a really stupid choice for our country to make. do you think, given the tools you have in the u. s. senate and your, you know, on committees and you, you had a narcotics caucus that, that you don't were seeing subpoena plow a power play out right now. and i'm just wondering how strong a tool or weak a tool it is to use that to try to create transparency on these rule of law and kind of democracy solvency questions. do you need more tools to do your job as a senator to get into these and to get into these dark places? i think we probably do. there's a very real danger that the new supreme court majority is going to a republican majority. republican majority is going to create already has created and expand dark money rights that inhibit congress is ability to do the investigations that the constitution allows us. and in fact requires us to do so. we have some hazards. one of them is where this court goes on. this question,
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it's the court, the dark money built, the dark money behind the federalist society ran the turn style through which the last 3 judges came. so the idea that it's now turning to defend dark money, it's kind of an ominous portent and it suggest, i mean, those are strong words, ominous portent. but it's an ominous poor town because i think in a, you know, somebody said many years ago that sunlight is the best disinfectant. right. and the more the court, and the more our system establishes safe havens from sunlight channels where dark money and anonymity can do their worst. right. the worse off we're going to be sen, wrap up. i want to read a couple of comments that came in after our last show because i think it's important we listen to how the world is perceiving this summit for democracy in reaction to the show tor eric by k. right. they should be pointing out major flaws
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in american democracy, money in politics, lobbying, gerrymandering, voters, suppression, low participation in elections. the electoral college, the filibuster, counter majority carrying institutions like the senate and the supreme court. erosion of democratic norms, etc. sounds like a sheldon white house list to me one moment. the 2nd one is from such even us it says, let's just think for a moment how in iranian would see this are cubans or venezuelans, bolivians, or just the majority of popular opinion around latin america, asia, africa, or even europe. the popular notion would be that the united states has been the biggest obstacle in the path of even thinking about a democratic justice based nation abroad. so there's doubt in this for democracy that's coming up. i just love to kind of get your picture. you know, if you were advising joe biden, on how to keep this from being a big belly flop and failing, what would be the key to turning around the doubts that these people have about america's role in convening this i think you've got to start the way we did in
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glasgow on climate change with a little humility, but with really showing up in force. and then i think you've got to make it real. we have lost our standing to give the rest of the world lectures. we have to actually fix the problem. and show that we're fixing it within our own country as well as demanding that everybody else does. and there are 2 big networks that need to be disrupted. one is the network of foreign countries that shelter the international dark economy for the criminals and for the collector craps. and we can do that in the 2nd, which is not unrelated, is the dark money network within the united states. that has made a lot of those things that your writer called us out for happen. there's a group of front groups with a funded by a couple of billionaires who are responsible for making a great deal of that happen. and we need to make sure the american public hears
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that story and understands how they've been had just real quickly. we, i remember on, on shows like the godfather with marlon brando, seeing those senate hearings, you know, on organized crime in america. they may have actually happened in real life in the past, but do we need something like that? again, do we need to have sheldon white house or other senators ashy convening senate hearings of that old? what a calling a subpoena people on organized crime trans nationally. i think it would be helpful for the american public to see that behind a lot of what they don't like about this country is a set of groups that are essentially phony groups that are all interrelated and often have overlapping boards and directors and same offices and all that kind of stuff. it's like a covert operation. and behind that is a bunch people who are funding what is essentially a covert intelligence operation against their own country. that's a story worth telling. we have not told it at all. well for sen. sheldon white
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house, democrat of rhode island, and chair of the senate narcotics caucus, really appreciate you sharing with us these other contours of the summit for democracy. this coming up. thanks for joining us today. good to be with you, steve. thanks for having me. so what's the bottom line? americas version of democracy has some great aspects that have inspired others, but there's so much that is not inspirational. sen, white house is right to focus on shadow organizations, corruption, that drug trade and the people behind them. these real centers of power that have real influence and they eat away at our democratic institutions. non transparent money and power are harming the u. s. at home and undermining order injustice in the international system. on top of that, sometimes washington supports those leaders abroad who are propped up by this corruption for a summit of democracy to mean anything. these issues, this issue of hypocrisy of supporting those leaders who are anti democratic anti human rights, all have to be dealt with. otherwise this summit is a lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing. and that's the bottom line. ah,
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