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good writing policies in europe build a united front populous leaders, meat and poland to discuss the continent future. but how much impact do they have in european politics? this is inside story. ah, hello, welcome to the program. i'm kim vanelle. the leaders of 14 european right wing parties are at a conference in poland. among the nationalist and populist issues up the discussion is the building of an alternative center of power in the european union. now it's

aimed at opposing the you on issues like migration, national sovereignty as well as lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender writes. with the lead, his face a number of challenges caused by bad differences, some view each other as to pro russian, while others are fine with moscow's influence in some have opposing views on even the main issues including asylum seekers, which countries should host refugees and how many despite that wants claire is they all want more influence in european politics. me more just because i am very optimistic about the coming together of this logic. i think what has happened to poland is blackmail and threat from the european union pollen resistance. once again would show everyone that's only in the union that we would succeed in making european union been in the most harmful way. i'll begin at discussion in just a moment, but 1st, let's take a look at some of europe's main far right parties in france. marina pan presides

over the national rally. the parties made headlines mostly for won't critic say it's, it's hard stones against ism, and french muslim identity and poland, sierra schwab. kasinsky leads the ruling nationalist populace law and justice party, which is often adults with european union policies. if lead legal party is dead by matthew salvi, he has reputation for a hard lines down for migration, for wanting to renegotiate you laws on asylum seekers with the aim of deporting thousands of them. the for dish political party and hungry said by prime minister victor or bomb, he presents himself as the defender of europe against migrants. he's also at the center of the bid to unite europe's radical ride parties. ah ok, let's bring in, i guess we have found the reading sca who is an expert at water institute. she joins us from poland capital from brussels in belgium, kyle,

the new chief executive officer at the center for european policy studies and from vienna college nits. a journalist at the austrian daily newspaper, their standard, so very warm. welcome to all. thanks for joining us here on inside story. i'd like to begin with alex found to be sca. do you think that these right wing parties who amazing in war so can really build a united block one of the challenges that they might face? well then they say some whole series of challenges. the 1st one is not all of the same or political group in the just letting you know kelly and i see. so the discussions have been growing

new groups should be should be holding some of those. and then i then join, let me just convention, the 2nd question of russia that we don't ever need to be pro russian russian. they see most dictated by our history by experience. we are russia been seen by the central them many of those parties and they don't like the pro ration and this is also point the content. so just quickly, before we move on, then do you think there's any point in the meeting at all? do you think they'll be able to form a blog? well, i don't know if the aim of this meeting is really i believe that it may be

a continuation of that meeting over the place in july. a joint examination was put out this time also there will be ration on the subject meeting in european reform policy. you mention something they certainly agree on that. also many sticking one and i will concentrate, i expect some sort of proposal for these kinds of before they will also debate about how to talk. you can see the competency outside of that. she seeks sugar bending which i think will be the subject. okay, thank you. thank you. thank. there's going to be a declaration, not necessarily a united block. as a result,

i want to come to you kind of learn who you are and take this meeting very seriously as whole. why is that? i did do some serious this only on i think that have been many attempts and all like this by the ripening or extreme right. and who said parliament was for one broke but so far they have not succeeded. one of the main reasons why they're doing this is because the partner audubon, because before part e p p which is basically the central conservative group and european parliament was pushed out of the e p. p. and there is no looking for a new home. and of course it has been kind of courting of the or social my groups have tried like, for example so. so he tried to join him at the former, i think but all of these them have failed to a party, basically have still groups to group each for each of them about 10 percent. so together, let's say the right $316.00 right off $20.00 to $25.00. percent that you know the bottom, but amongst them they are so divided the difference and orientation that extremely

difficult to believe that a couple more common. a common voice. if you see, for example, in what's happening and trans at the moment, be told, let's say that a year ago, and that's probably been, would again be marianna, been again, be sure to challenge your too much at all. but we know she, that the extreme rival brands are sophie split and 2 groups and j more may overtook, may overtake the ben andy and the presidential elections next year. so we see that the extreme hard to split, which is the biggest threat and you know, for the extreme like which we have because initially because of the driving government, the leak not has been pushed a bit to decide. we also see that it's not homeless for me to be meeting and marshal this weekend, which is also, i think, a very important sign. i think the biggest problem is essentially what is going on and problems. and then we see that deck street also if you don't have the german elections and september b, i did. yup. and meet the progress of that. all right. who do not post that anymore

and germany. so i think it's an attempt to prose was a voice, but the previous speaker set this issue about threshold, very different stations. we know for sure that the party of mario nathan got subsidies got support from russia and something like this in on its own. okay. i'd like to bring you and call it schmidt. we've talked a lot then about the differences between all of these parties meeting and was, or something that they have said previously when they signed that declaration. of basically saying they're on the same page was that they want to fight for family values. i mean, but that could look very different to different parties into different countries. couldn't i totally agree to what you said about what is going on in france. i mean, that's one of the, i think, very important points that maybe wants to collect points if she tries to reunite or

unite the far right. because at home it's not really going well on her. what really unites all these groups is, are most of them that it's not, they have all seen better days and they really are not on the right right now in their home countries. so this is one point and family values as you call them, are really a problem that they have with human rights. i'll be tv rights. you can see that in hungary and there are they really are in trouble because of this within the you. so this is probably the problem, one of the reasons why all them and hungary are now sticking together. because here also you have the problem that whole and is very russian and apparently not at all. so this is probably one of the main reason they are not getting all the funds that you are right now and have problems there. alex

found the reading skills. i'd like to put that to you. do you agree with the sentiment that the right wing popularity across the board is, is on the decline across europe. said as long as john or law is governing. and so, i mean humbly. and we don't know because you know, but i want to say it is university and i do believe the presidential race nor to she could be based on to immigration more than it was present in his face before he had been in this presidential leis, necessarily. so he can the chances of that to happen. so i think the right is maybe not new to me and i was about to

take over over the have to say it is still then the hope was going to disappear. one they happen. so it is gaining momentum, sweden. so what we're saying with the books are we will see what's going to happen the next couple of months and years with me need a common block call ended issues when they re re, re, i'm forming catalano. do you agree with the previous speakers, a fair in terms of the impact, the power, the popularity of right wing parties in european politics right now to some degree, but some, i would add to that. what brings them together is that have to europe,

but they have no alternative meaning. it's very funny. they are, they don't like all of them. europe, and they come together to express this whenever you look at the character of these different parties, they are so different already on this fundamental thing which you said, we just family values. they will have totally different views. for example, all the church on, for example, issues like abortion, which is a big issue or some of the parties, but not for others or, or, for example, on the other side matters where you see that it's extremely difficult to unite them . and they have been fine if you compare this to the other political groups and you will be parliament, which also have this issue to try to a common block. they have much more advance like, you know, people's party or the socialist and democrats, or 70 degrees, or the liberals, you know, more much more united in the political, the political id. they stand for than the extreme right,

which has totally different orientation. so again, i would take, i do not, i'm not too concerned to say that they can do much against. of course, it's a pity, i personally find that there are so many in the parliament and they, they get paid by all of us. but that's what we haven't in the democracy and have you see what happens again and determine elections in september and medical come to know that she has managed again to marginalize the amc, the extreme. and i didn't, and germany called germany has a special because of a just re, a special connotation with extreme right. but we see that i'm not too concerned about the not apart from problems and the good thing which is happening now. apparently there splintered amongst themselves and event, which i think has challenged real port patents or the d. a. i mean has been a 2nd. thank you for kind of trans never to manage. so clad smith. i just wanna pass over to call at college netflix. i can see you

nodding your head there talking your mike was off, but was there something you wanted to add to? well, in france you can see what you can. you can really watch and a lot of countries in europe look, pen started moving to the middle because she went too far right. 9 too far, right to get voted into a powerful position. and now of course there is a new man with more was really very far right again. and this will go on like this because they get the by that in the end. and if they don't unite, it will be hard for them to gain power. i think so. but however, what i wanted to say is that it's paradox, but these right wing are even right. comparative parties are all nationalists and that doesn't fit very well into the european union. so even if they try again and again tonight, it won't, you know, on the long run word because they, they really don't think international. read your, understand what i mean. now,

i want to put that, that same center, the same sentiment to alexander rabinski. i guess what we're trying to say is what's being suggested there is that these parties who believe an essential tenant for many of them is the national sovereignty. then looking to build an international united front might seem to some like an inherent contradiction. what do you think? i don't think it is necessarily contradiction right now. not have a super national nubian see. we have mentioned and right now they should pay the only he knew the commission is elected, so have little democratic lives in the nation. great graphic leverage and envision life. that is the 2nd thing is, i don't think you what they want is to be for europe. we all of the european union,

and we all have to somehow think about what kind of union we want. now we have a list and we'll say, and then we have the meeting today and also who wants your nation, which will actually the initial idea that it was supposed to be a nation. and it has developed and more and more designed to ration not everybody was and i think we have a right to discuss then vision. if you me something hate you want to change it. they don't want to abolish that is a totally different thing. and i think it is really that many assumptions are made by some of the law and just in the us septic septic and all we do not really have us have a range party that don't really matter on the political. ok, carol,

i know i want to put that to you but advance that a little bit in that often. one thing is born of the other right, right wing populism. that perhaps a reaction to its opposite. what is it that you think these parties are rebelling against and even if you don't agree with the form that rebellion might be taking, couldn't because for some soul searching within the you. if i listen to the previous speaker, i would say, i would totally disagree with you because human was in favor of a form of a united nations over the united states of europe like receipt of the united states of america, which is a federal states. but clearly federal competence is not, and that's what we want to do with this sense. and that certainly must be extreme right. or this very right to in groups and european group on, they basically want to go back to what we have achieved. for example, i remember very well that interview between and my job and my role that for the 2nd

round, about 4 and a half years ago, there arguing and then wanted to abolish the euro was to go back. and the girl wasn't asking who heard what you're doing and she hardly knew, and she fell basically through this argumentation. she not her, the chances of that could be to be elected. i mean, that's what the group wants to go back from these commitments and to franklin, the nation state or general under my report of justice and european court of justice is basically the are but the if there are issues, but we don't degree entrepeneur have medicine which is the ultimate part of the modem, which we know you for that. but also for the attribution of that you would be great and the next you and on what's conditionality could be enforced by the european permission to get these funds reach. for example, there's an issue for all of us, but this is all part of a federal construction. this is not only the construction of the united nations of

europe. we have make a long wait 3040 years and integrating and strengthening super national competence within the u. i would also look at the mission. it's probably not directly elected, but you could go broad, but you've been part of that and you'll be barber inside of the bottom and it's not highly apartments as we know nationally, but already has to do that. what i hear is that i have some disagreement about what it is that these right wing parties want, in terms of the future of europe. their visions, i want to come to, you call it schmidt, about some of the factors that play here, the context in which this is all happening. what do you think that the migrant crisis has done not just on poland border with en route, but across the e u. what do you think it has done for these sort of nationalist populace parties? you know, while the, you may not agree with when many of these parties are leaders or even nations, it is open to discussing, for example, you financing or physical border infrastructure. so what do you think that has done

to this whole discussion? well, it has served to right wing parties around the european union. well, of course prices and especially 2015 because especially in countries that took in a lot of refugees, they could really gain power like austria in germany as you know. and we even had the freedom party in our government for 2 years. then we know the end of that story with the video, but this was really helping them to rise. now we have another crisis apart from my friends levels and paul and we have a car on over the you. and i think if you look at the recent elections, it just germany, for instance, maybe the corona virus and then me traces was more topics to a lot of orders and migrants. i think so. but of course,

describe this really divided the you because actually we could not find a way to, to share the responsibility for refugees all over and to the same amount in every country. and remember, i found the guy, you say that the idea of building a united front, a grouping of parties with the same aims. it's not new. so why is it that it's advancing? now? do you think it is being wrong now by especially going on just because of the dispute low that it has the european commission and obviously is seen as a good occasion to show that they do have to port one of the main

subject question. doing this meeting is effectively limiting the comprehensive institution point of view, which is has been confirmed by the things that have been allocated industry by the members. and so using commission, that is the justice is acting outside of the outside of the home. and this is not acceptable, so then the number of political on the title, if you see this in a similar way. and i think this is one of the reasons whole this conference. but i want to say something to what has been making me stress crisis

is not my question is a g electric question? no natural might dictate. and i don't know of any people wanting to move. there is a country of people from and not go to and no natural migrations, not official records, created by the question. and as soon as he's taking the place in the, my know, my i can shaking or sorry, nodding their heads in agreement with you. we've got less than 60 seconds now until the end of the program, about the end very quickly. would you cut out la new o, how do you see the trajectory right now in terms of the future of the fall rise? i mean, we're going to need to have a fine right in europe, but that also will depend on the circumstances i'm whole revealed with all these different prices which we have. but if you see how well because of the health crisis and hope that you were in a domain, because your competence helps when you basically manage to order fractions for all

of you. and i think we are basically ahead of the rest of the girls and the baby control and just help christ. of course, we still have a lot of problems and many states, but you have to be up to and you only need to remember what happened in february, march minute was unsure whether we will get there. and then on the last test we will have so many percent 60 or 70 percent of the budget by july between managed again and a domain which is most of you and very you see by the way, she said and all the energy and demand pro member say again, an area which is not and you are competent energy supply to have more european just to jointly order got to join the order. i mean, for them to guess control the prices and to make sure that we have much more leverage on for temper russia, which is supplying them. ok, and you are my part. you have to leave it very big. thank you to all of our guests for joining us, alexander. we been sca cut out le, new and scarlet schmidt and thank you for watching. you can see the program again

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