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call hand out. you sarah, we'll bring you the news and current affairs that mattie out of here did with welcome to the stream. i'm josh rushing setting and for for me. ok, today we look at bosnia herzegovina were serv, leader, within the 3 member presidency, has for weeks urged the formation of sir, blood parallel institutions and the republican service guy, entity, miller, i don't mix proposals, have put on edge many people across the country, which is home to boston, ex croats and serbs. they're now waiting to see what parliamentarians and the serb dominated republic. a search could think of. don't explains, hey, are you watching on youtube? you see that box over there? we have a live stream producer there waiting to get your comments to me to be part of the conversation and then i can get them to our guest. and i actually have

a great panel. augusta wanted me today and i'm going to ask them to introduce themselves. gonna begin with yasmin. i am. yeah, yeah, rich, i'm a political scientist working on the call exit democratization democratic back, sliding, southeastern nerd. that's perfect. thank you. i dana, i mean, he negotiated it. i am okay, so security studies, cindy university of sarajevo and my interest in a research of genocide transitional justice that go so are the causation. various forms are that certainly going to come up in today's conversation riata? hi, my name is ashley murray. jack hill. i am contributing editor at your last magazine and i'm creator and host of dignified brazilian focus, which tackle resilience, trauma, and genocide. survival. so we got, i've seen number had lives lately, talking about bosnia herzegovina may break up. what is going on?

what, what is it about? don't plans. i have everyone so concerned. yes. well bothering to go nice. currently experiencing it's worth crisis since the $90.00 to $95.00 international arm conflict. and we are in december and 14th of this month, we'll market the 26th anniversary on the signing of the dates and peace accord agreement which did establish the 2 entities in both. it has to go in and also created a super complicated system off a government and a constitution which is discriminatory to minorities. and as you pointed out, miller adored the call is the 3rd member of the 3 part time presidency. and to the fact the leader of liberal, because he has announced that he was threatened to withdraw from central governments armed forces, judiciary attacks and customs agencies and other paid bodies. and he was also a, he also threatened the establishing independent bosnian serb army, one that is convicted of committing genocide. so in international court. so these more of course not just violated a chord,

but they are effectively meaning succession partition of the country. and also a continuation of the attempt to achieve more goals by other means. so we brought up the constitution and you said that is discriminatory toward minorities. can you touch on back just for a 2nd? of course, well, you're getting into another part of the puzzle that's going on right now. at the same time with the dog dick's session, if efforts you have his political ally, the bozeman, correct nationalist party, correct? democrat unit. how does it? and they have continued blocking the establishment of the and the government federation because of demands for changes in electoral law and bosnia as electra law, arising from the dayton accords is discriminatory or towards minority or not part of the constituent people. both next serves and cross. so that means that in the case that there is passing of this electoral law, there would be jerry manard federation and the voters of the national criminal

creation. the democratic unit hod busy day will be worth more than the rest of the voters in the entity of bosnia has to go over night and some demographics would be more privileged on fairly. and this electoral change would be 5 the fiber optics. off the european court of human rights on discrimination in electoral process, we have other gordon each who sued instruct water in 2005 and the verdict came in 2014. i believe for 8 years ago that the contribution of bosnia needs to change, but the electoral reform pushes that have been going on. right now. i'm more about fragments in the country than really about these changes because of the security crisis that's been going on. so the priority is, are not set up clearly or rather particular f nationalist party, such as how does the cry them across the union are pushing for this change when the timing is just not right. if we thought about,

well being of the country total thinking of the constitution, here's what daughter had to say about it. feel emotionally politic ollie's to douglas, you. others have that views, but they also one piece to be maintained here. and i keep saying that i am not ready to sacrifice anything for peace, and i am not ready to sacrifice peace for some struggle for the republic. sir sca pieces the way for a public, srp sca and not is its policy, not war, not conflicts, not cheap, but it was a public. so me surely a protesting that a foreign and boy can impose laws on us. we are protesting against the decisions of the constitutional court which are unconstitutional and everyone knows as a do you know, what is the support like for doric there and it has new plans? well, it was in a book as if scott does not really support the idea that it is really question how much power will they had in the end to oppose him. it still wouldn't distress also,

that this crisis is not new. it's a continuation of doug's decade on efforts to destroy the institutions of bought and had to galena in order to presented as a dysfunctional state and. and therefore the presented that the dissolution is, is in an inevitable. so it's also wouldn't understand that her daughter would not have the power to generate such a serious strength without the full support of russia. and 3rd, mia and the appeasement of western actors is also fueled. is by applying some sort of blind sort of tolerance lehman his most extreme rhetoric, including to blatant genocide, a denial and, and this is where your position in the public a service guy is really hesitant to opposing him. and so,

debt is the reason because the position of republicans have scanned the strongest opposition party in the board of scott is actually on a handed by undercarriage a. we sentence for genocide in boss and have selina and it is kind of contrary to all the basic premises of debt, opposition our party to opposed adding on genocide denial. oh, so, but they are opposing deposition ease of posing a dolly and an almost as, as, as a pie, he is responsible for the war. it seems that they are aware what he's call succession,

but could actually cause so and i also like to strengthen the escalation in don't extravagant practice. it is unprecedented, but the pattern actually in itself is actually not new. he has blame the, played this game with international community before, and it has work like for example, he has the concessions were made to dominique to removing to national judges for corruption and organized crime for from the bus in the state board. and the international community conceded. so these has emboldened on it to take a few steps further go. it is the goal for succession. i want to read jasmine out of this conversation. also want to bring in or you tube audience. i'm gonna throw this, this one comment at your it says it's there right at the serve. want to leave now

just a little bit of context. this person's name on you tube is russian agent. jasmine, what, what do you last year with or out in the background on that? well, i mean, if we're going to take the name literally right away from the kremlin, turning it on to look at the matter is that the existence of the earth directly to the boss in genocide, he was directly founded as a consequence of the crimes against humanity. that were committed to the point to the new genocide was the creation of that and see and the only way that the entity was actually finally kind of recognized international community was a district card in state. and so there actually is no right to say, especially of the sort that we're talking about here. you know, if we wanted to have a serious conversation about reorganization stage,

all relevant actors in the country should commit themselves to rationalization, democratization of the bosnian states. and by the politics writ large, what mr does it can also partners in b, c are doing, is creating a dysfunctional states, purposely undermining every rational democratic process in the country. every crosses, conversation dialogue, agreement, et cetera. indeed, countries parliamentary institutions, but all in order to kind of create the facts on the ground, right. so if we are going to kind of take a theoretical view of it as good democrats and political scientists and say ok, well everything should be out for conversation. sure. but then you have to create conditions for that. whereas what they're actually doing is kind of trying to use force and threats, of course, to impose their will on the majority of the body public. and indeed ultimately international community, which would have to deal with the consequences of any kind of series session crisis . you know, which would all certainly result in very serious violence. we are not going to want

to jump in there. oh, well, i think that i agreeing what? yes me says what i keep thinking about is something that are survivors. i think there's maybe part of conversation comes towards the end after we have kind of dealt with all the policy options and what we could talk about. and i think that me was just come back, i think from europe, can tell us more and, you know, but i think that it's really important in these conversations to also talk about the survivors. i think that it's important to remind people of this is just 26 years and that, you know, we know, but 10 phases of genocide, but in bosnia i holly i was still in a condemning because of the situation there coined 11th faith, which is the glorification of war criminals and just the fact that these citizens, these people, particularly returning to look us up. but more so in the entire country are supposed to think again about the potential, just existential threat. honestly,

it's really something that we need to think about. and if you listen to the survivors and they are vocal, not just social media, but they're webinar their platforms, now they have graded themselves. one thing that is very obvious at this time is that even though or though where they might not have seemed prepared, 909192 right. now there seems to be a pretty clear awareness about what could happen if this goes through. and i do want to say that from, you know, there is no of course, the survivors. i could talk about people i speak to and those that i read whether i know them personally or not that i listen to. a lot of people are not just scared, they're very confused about the old sizing. so to say by international community factors, not clearly pointing to those who are, are trying to break bosnia and some keep saying that, you know, this is that bothering out could just be collateral damage to russia as

a salt in europe. and let's also not get to that we have had, if you look at the big picture, a sequence of events in the last couple of years that has been grossly humiliating and undermining the pain of these people who have not properly been able to get acknowledgment of their trauma and i'm talking about the fact that besides the worst case work criminals, then you have readings and immoral, sent there, which is very prolific. that publishes annual reports and publish that there are $234.00 instances of genocide. and in last year alone in the regional media and by the public, people who are currently in the government in the country and in the region that you have of nobel prize for literature awarded to peter hong k. 2019. you have memoirs of war criminals published in a very, in ways that really deal more with him and not at all with the survivors. you have the ideas of that evidence, a genocide being coded as chosen trauma by some historians in europe. and all of

this is making a lot of people in bosnia, very worried not just abandoned, but they are just tired of feeling about feeling not taking seriously let alone taking their humanity into accounts. so i hope that whoever is listening and i am a person is by nature. but here we are talking about some struggle over that you should not reward the genocide of budget muslims further. and that there should be a clear, clear spans about what could be done and there are things that could be done. dina, is she mentioned russia ariana, did you eliminate the role of russia in this entire fireplace? well, how do you need to go as of russia in, in, in the india affair it's, it's really necessary to answer the question what the u. s. and e,

you are actually doing now because it seems it or with the involvement in with its involvement and, and pushing for the lacto or a form they are actually fulfilling all of the wishes of russia. for marcia, my sense is there are many liberal democracies in international community that, that do a. ready that can decide about this, this boss in crisis tired of you don't wanna end it quickly and as easily is possible. and of course we would all we bought and would like it or to solve it, but that needs to be so sustainably better. one cannot really tackle a crime without acknowledging the reality and a full scope of the problem. and what goes either sunday, u. s. and e,

you are proposing or right now would fulfill the demands of crime and serve nationalists. and i want to remind you that and this several cried alliance was formed under the umbrella of, of, of russia and, and they wanted to get them closer to fulfill their ambition to divide bosnia and herzegovina. so these particular reforms that the u. s. and e you are advocating for. ready now, i have been supporting by russia for years. i think that debt alone should cause i know there wasn't negotiators to realize mary of the, of the, their plan in this scenario is what friends of boston galena peered ahead of the last us election. if, if trump one,

but we never really expected from the bye, didn't creation, to take this line, we really knew all along that the russian plan is to divide bosnia to cause us to conflict, to berman boss near joining nato and, and you, but the problem is that the you and the us now are actually taking the rattling and everybody is really shocked. all the friends of bosnia analysts for the west liberal forces in bosnia and herzegovina are absolutely shocked with a u. s. e line of speaking with jasmine. were you just and brussels? what was, what was a feeling there?

i think the good news is that for the 1st time in a very long time, we finally have a little bit of critical attention there from members of the european parliament. i think they have been quite scandalized by some of the revelations as to what the various representatives of essentially the commission i've been doing. and by the way, that they are going, accommodating, accommodating as it was just explaining some of these maximum list demands, not just by certain prob nationalist actors on the ground. but indeed, they are expected patrons in moscow in belgrade. and indeed, even to some extent, in soccer and these other increasingly illiberal european capitals, likely to pass and beyond. i think the more attention we can have on boss, in particular, on the car legislature is this includes the u. s. congress is the european parliament. this includes very important things that we saw recently in the british house of commons,

but also the dutch parliament. we have to kind of open up what's going on. it was near to the light of the world. because what has been the policy of american and european negotiators over the past few months is really, really a greg, the logic has been entirely rooted in. he's entirely been rooted in the idea of delivering to people in the control is essentially everything that they're demanding. crucial to that will then somehow get them to calm down rather than convince them that they need to go still further in their demands. because clearly their question on open door. i think it cannot be overstated the extent to which any kind of security crisis or certainly about the session crisis. it could be, it would have catastrophic security consequences, not just for the whole western balkans region, but in the, the whole europe. this should be recognized as a national security threat to the entirety of the plan to community. and as a result, they should commit themselves fundamentally to ensuring the one thing that we know can deliver peace and security. and which is the only thing is ever delivered

anywhere which is a functional, rational, liberal democratic regime. and that is the certainty of the situation. but those of us who have been advocating for genuine reforms has been entirely shut down from these talks a shout from these thoughts negotiations. whereas we have is consistent policy, appeasement, for reactionary and extremist elements like that. i can show that i want to bring it to another voice here. this is dr. marco, a tele har. he's an associate professor of history of a school of science and technology. here's what he has to say about international in intervention. what you really need is for these national community to intervene to restore a functional bosnian state through radical constitutional reform that would prevent the separate isn't being enacted. the trouble is that the western leaders don't have the appetite for this right now. so in these circumstances, president put in russia allied to president, which in serbia are taking advantage of western vacillation to promote the separate

it's a separate dis in bosnia to try and promote the session all republican cisco, which would cause conflict in the region. so unless western policy changes to meet is threat, we are quite likely to have conflict in the near future. sariana is saying that you need international intervention as an international intervention and some way what got us here in the 1st place? well, let's speak more precisely. i mean, professor holiday is saying he's, he's saying something that a lot of people have also been talking about in the sense that while, while you, while you have one cam that's been saying that one of the solutions is how to both are and strength and decorum date and assist them. there is also another very valid notion and that is the data is really unworkable. so what's to stop from, you know, asking 1st session, even after a few months, even if things were given to him, not the ones they wanted, even if anything was given to him. so people like professor hora has been proposing

or stating very clearly how the allies can work with a members of the bosnian presidency besides dot extension as a whole new constitutional order in which they are able to go would be dissolved. and i do want to relate it to this mention something that's also part of what survivors are voicing. and it's very clear that anything bosnian do across the political spectrum. and there are, there is a variety on that political spectrum as well. even those who do struggle for liberal democracy are almost never going to be given benefit of the dallas in terms of they're always supposed to be some secret islamist agenda most often portrayed in some anti muslim terms. so that and not only this, i'm just but it's dangerous. it's very easy to get slammed online when you point the different nationalist currents. and when you state this, which professor hara mentioned, because it almost leads to this idea or allegation of

muslims almost being incapable of being tolerant. speaking nation rhianna, i want to bring in another voice here. this is roberta mitch activists lawyer and a journalist. solid people in boston has to gone now are facing is biggest security and political crisis that we had in our modern history says his date of peace agreement was signed that falsely caused by the rhetoric and treads that new laura antic is sharing. he's calling a boss yokes of muslims. he's a denial in genocide. he's a and that also provokes a lot of trauma. oh, that people are real living again now in, but he had to go now. and another voice here from this are from,

are you to audience? this is coffee stained, says best to split it up as peacefully as possible, so that a long term piece can take hold. yes ma'am. yeah, i mean, does it look this is we've been hearing this for her. it's 99. these right this this an ecology of a pico breaker causing her to be answered by the fascist, this was attempted in the 1990 s mr. nationalists and prior nationalists on by the here to green is that your graphic and strategic center of the, of the western balkan. it has a very, very old history is sovereign states. it is harm serves, cried spar snacks in other communities, jews, roman many others. are there is continuous attempts by a frank, reactionary extremist movements to great cost this country. and every attempt to do so has resulted in extreme asthma islands, crimes against man and that there, cuz it's gonna be the end of our show. the next step in this process might come on friday when the parliament of the republic of sir sca considers dote x plans until

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