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which is home to boss, next croats and serbs there now waiting to see what parliamentarians and the serb dominated republic a search could think of dote x plans. hey, are you watching on youtube? you see that box over there? we have a live stream producer there waiting to get your comments to me so you can be a part of the conversation and then i can get them to our guest. and i actually have a great panel. augusta went to me today and i'm going to ask them to introduce themselves . gonna begin with yasmin. i am. yeah, yeah, rich, i'm a political scientist working on the co x, democratization dual credit back featured. that's perfect. thank you. i dana. hi nina, but you didn't sign up for her. so security studies, cindy university of sarajevo and my interest in the research of genocide transitional justice that go so that are the causation. various forms are that certainly gonna come up and today's conversation, riata, hi, my name is re,
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i'd actually my reject kill. i am contributing editor and you're lags magazine and creator and host of dignified resilience, bought guess which tacro, resilience, trauma and genocide, survival. so we all have same number headlines, lily, talking about bosnia herzegovina may break up, what is going on, what, what is it about? don't it's plans i have everyone. so concert yes. well bothering to go and i am currently experiencing its worth crisis since the 9295 international arm conflict. and we are in december and 14th of this month will market the 26th anniversary of the signing of the dates and pizza cord agreement, which did establish the 2 entities in bozeman, has to go out and also created a super complicated a system of government. and a constitution which is discriminatory to minorities. and as you pointed out, miller, adobe, who is the 3rd member of the 3 part time presidency. and the fact the leader of because rebecca has announced that he was threatened to withdraw from the central
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government armed forces. judiciary tax and customs agencies and other paid bodies. and he was also a, he also preston, the establishing, independent bosnian, serb army, one that is convicted of committing genocide. so in international court. so these moves, of course not just violated a piece of chord, but they are effectively meaning succession partition of the country and also a continuation of the attempt to achieve more goals by other means. so when they brought up the constitution and you said that it is discriminatory toward minorities, can you touch on back just for a 2nd? of course. well, you're getting into another part of the puzzle that's going on right now. at the same time with the dog, the recession is efforts. you have his political ally, the bozeman correct nationalist party, correct? democrat unit hod visit. and they have continued blocking the establishment of the and the government federation because of demands for changes in electoral law. and
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bosnia is electra law, arising from the dayton accords is discriminatory or towards minority or not part of the constituent people, both next serbs and cross. so that means that in the case that there is passing of this electoral law, there would be jerry mander federation, and the voters of the national criminal creation, democratic union, hobbins. they will be worth more than the rest of the voters in the entity of balls and has to go every night and some demographics would be more privileged on fairly . and this electro change would be 5 the fiber optics, off the european court of human rights on discrimination and electoral process. we have other gordon each who sued, installed water in 2005, and the verdict came in 2014, i believe. so 8 years ago that the contribution of bosnia needs to change by the electoral reform pushes that have been going on. right now. i'm more about
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fragments in the country than really about these changes because of the security crisis that's been going on. so the priority is, are not set up clearly or rather particular ethnic nationalist party, such as how does their, the cry them across the union are pushing for this change when the timing is just not right. if we thought about, well being of the country in total thinking of the constitution, here's what gotta kind of say about it. the most popular, the allister douglas, you others have that views, but they also want peace to be maintained here. and i keep saying that i am not ready to sacrifice anything for peace, and i am not ready to sacrifice peace for some struggle for the republic. sir sca pieces the way for a public, swept sca and not is its policy, not war, not conflicts or not. but it was a report of michelle, we are protesting that a foreign and boy can impose laws on us. we are protesting against the decisions of the constitutional court which are unconstitutional and everyone knows it. do you
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know what is the support like for don't it there and it has new plans? well, it was in a book, a sub scott does not really support daddy, but it is really question how much power will they had in the end to oppose him. it still wouldn't distress also that this a crisis is not new. it's a continuation of drugs. becky long efforts to destroy the institutions of bought and had to galena in order to presented as a dysfunctional state and, and, and therefore the presented the dissolution is, is in an inevitable. so it's also wouldn't understand that her daughter would not have the power to generate such a serious strength without the full support of russia. and serbia, and the appeasement of western actors is also fueled,
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is by applying some sort of blind sort of tolerance leave. and he's most extreme rhetoric, including the blatant genocide, a denial and, and this is where your position in the public a service guy is really hesitant to opposing him. i'm so debt is the reason because the position of political because it's got the strongest opposition party in the board of scott is actually on a handed by at undercarriage a. we sentence for genocide in boston, have to lina, and it is kind of contrary to all the basic premises of debt, opposition our party to oppose guarding on genocide denial . oh so,
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but they are opposing deposition ease of posing a dolly and an almost as, as, as a pie, he is responsible for the war. it seems that they are aware what he's called of succession, but could actually cause so and it's so i don't like to strengthen the escalation in don't ex radical tactics. it is unprecedented . but the pattern actually in itself, it's actually not new. he has playing the, played this game with international community before and it has work like for example, he has the concessions were made to dominique to removing to national judges for corruption and organized crime for from the bus in state board. and the
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international community conceded. so these has emboldened on it to take a few steps further go. it is the goal for succession. i want to read jasmine out of this conversation. also want to bring in or you tube audience. i'm gonna throw this, this one comment at you. it says it's there right at the served want to leave now just a little bit of context. this person's name on you tube is russian agent. jasmine, what, what do you last year with or out in the background on that? well, i mean, if we're going to take the name literally race rehearsal from the kremlin, turning it on to look at the matter is that the existence of the earth directly to the bottom genocide yesterday, was directly founded as a consequence of the crimes against humanity that were committed to the point to the genocide was the creation of that entity. and the only way that the entity was
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actually finally kind of recognized international community was a district card in state. and so there actually is no right to say, especially of the sort that we're talking about here. you know, if we wanted to have a serious conversation about reorganization states, all relevant actors in the country should commit themselves to rationalization, democratization of the bosnian states. and by the politics writ large, what mr does it can also partners in b, c are doing, is creating a dysfunctional states, purposely undermining every rational democratic process in the country, every processes, conversation, dialogue, agreement, et cetera. indeed, countries, parliamentary institutions all in order to kind of create facts on the ground, right. so if we are going to kind of take a theoretical view of it as good democrats and political scientists and say ok, well everything should be out for conversation. sure. but then you have to create
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conditions for that. whereas what they're actually doing is kind of trying to use force and threats, of course, to close there well, on the majority of the public. and indeed, ultimately the international community, which would have to deal with the consequences of any kind of series session crisis, which would all certainly result in very serious violence. we are all going to want to jump in there. oh, well, i think that i agreeing what you asked me says what i keep thinking about is something that are survivors. i think there's maybe part of conversation comes towards the end after we have kind of dealt with all the policy options and what we could talk about. and i think that was just come back. i think from europe can tell us more and, and the dina, but i think that it's really important in these conversations to also talk about the survivors. i think that it's important to remind people of this is just 26 years and that, you know, we know, but 10 phases of genocide,
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but in bosnia i holly for a little bit was you know, still an academic because of the situation there, coined 11 faith which is the glorification of war criminals and just the fact that these citizens, these people, particularly returning republicans, but more so in the entire country are supposed to think again about the potential, just existential threat. honestly, it's really something that we need to think about. and if you listen to the survivors and they are vocal, not just in social media, but they're webinar. there are platforms now that they have created themselves. one thing that is very obvious at this time is that even though or though they might not have seemed prepared, 909192 right. now there seems to be a pretty clear awareness about what could happen if this goes through. and i do want to say that from, you know, there is no, of course, the survivors, i can talk about people i speak to and those that i read whether i know them
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personally or not that i listen to. a lot of people are not just scared, they're very confused about the old sizing. so to say by international community factors, not clearly pointing to those who are, are trying to break bosnia and some keep saying that, you know, this is that bothering out could just be collateral damage to russia as a salt in europe. and let's also not get to that we have had, if you look at the big picture, a sequence of events in the last couple of years. it has been grossly humiliating and undermining the pain of these people who have not properly been able to get acknowledgment of their trauma. and i'm talking about the fact that besides the worst case work criminals, when you have reverence and immoral center, which is very prolific, that publishes annual reports and publish that there are 234 instances of genocide . and in last year alone in the regional media and by the public, people who are currently in the government in the country and in the region that
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you have of nobel prize for literature awarded to peter hong k. 2019. you have memoirs of war criminals published in a very, in ways that really deal more with him and not at all with the survivors. you have the ideas of the evidence, a genocide being coded as chosen trauma by some historians in europe. and all of this is making a lot of people in bosnia, very worried not just abandoned, but they are just tired of feeling about feeling not taking seriously let alone taking their humanity into account. so i hope that whoever is listening and i am a person is by nature. but here we are talking about some struggle to over that you should not reward the genocide of budget muslims further. and that there should be a clear, clear span of about what could be done and there are things that could be done. and,
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you know, she mentioned russia, that riata did, you eliminate the role of russia and this entire affair place well, how do you need to go out of russia in the entire affair? it's, it's really necessary to answer the question, what the u. s. and the you are actually doing now because it seems it or with this involvement in with its involvement and, and pushing for the letter or form they are actually fulfilling all of the wishes of russia for boss in this is, is there many liberal democracies in international community that that do a. ready can decide about this, this boss in crisis and tired of it don't wanna and it quickly and as easily is possible. and of course we would all we bought and we'd like it to solve it,
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but that, that needs to be so sustainably. but one cannot really tell a credit without acknowledging the reality and a full scope of the problem and what goes into some the u. s. and e, you are proposing right now would fulfill the demands of crime and serve nationalists. and i want to remind you that this several crowd alliance was formed under the umbrella of, of, of russia and, and they wanted to get them closer to fulfill their ambition to divide bosnia and entered to galena. so these particular reforms that the u. s. and e, you are advocating for now. i have been supporting by russia for years. i think that debt alone should cause i know there wasn't negotiators
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to realize, mary, all of their, their plan in this scenario is what friends who boston had to be not feared ahead. of the last us election, if, if trump one, but we never really expected from the bye didn't station to take this line. we really knew all along that the russian plan is to divide bosnia to cause us to conflict, to berman boss near joining nato and, and you. but the problem is that the, you and the us now are actually taking the rest of the needs really shocked all the friends of bosnia analysts
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for the way to liberal forces in bosnia and herzegovina, are absolutely shocked with us. you'll, i'm speaking with yes, when were you just in brussels? what i was, what was the feeling there? i think the good news is that for the 1st time in a very long time, we finally have a little bit of critical attention there from members of the european parliament. i think they have been quite scandalized by some of the revelations as to what the various representatives of essentially the commission i've been doing. and by the way that they are going accommodating, accommodating as it was just explaining some of these. max analysts demands not just by a certain nationalist actors on the ground, but indeed, there are certain patrons in moscow in belgrade, and indeed even to some extent ins are to have these other increasingly illiberal
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european capitals, likely to pass and beyond. i think the more attention we can have on the particular on the card of legislatures. this includes the u. s. congress is parliament. this includes very important things that we saw recently in the british house of commons, but also the dutch parliament. we have to kind of open up what's going on. it was near to the lighter world because what has been the policy of american and european negotiators over the past few months? is really, really a greg. the logic has been entirely rooted in a few minutes. it is entirely been rooted in the idea of delivering to people who are the controllers actually everything that they're demanding in the pool. that will then somehow get them to calm down, rather than convince them that they need to go still further in their demands. because clearly they're question door, i think it cannot be overstated the extent to which any kind of security crisis or certainly a succession crisis could be no,
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we have catastrophic security consequences, not just for the whole western balkans region, but indeed the whole europe. this should be recognized as a national security threat to the entirety of the plan to community. and as a result, they should commit themselves fundamentally to ensuring the one thing that we know can deliver peace and security and prosperity providing her to which is the only thing is ever delivered anywhere which is a functional, rational, liberal democratic regime. and that is the certainty of the situation, but those of us who have been advocating for genuine brother forms have almost entirely shut down from these talks or show from these thoughts and negotiations. whereas we have is consistent policy, appeasement for reactionary and extremist elements like doug and show that you know, what are we going to another voice here? this is dr. marco, a tele har is associate professor of history area of a school of science and technology. here's what he has to say about international in intervention. what you really need is for these national community to intervene
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to restore a functional bosnian state through radical constitutional reform that would prevent the separatism from being enacted. the trouble is that the western leaders don't have the appetite for this right now. so in the circumstances president put in russia allied to president, which in serbia are taking advantage of western vacillation to promote the separate a separate dis in bosnia to try and promote the session all republican cisco, which would cause conflict in the region. so unless the western policy changes to meet is threat, we're quite likely to have conflict in the near future. toyota and he's saying that you need international intervention as an international intervention in some way. what got us here in the 1st place? well, it's speak more precisely, i mean professor holiday is saying he's, he's saying something that a lot of people have also been talking about incense that while while you, while you have one camp that's been saying that one of the solutions is how to
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bolster and strengthen the current data system, there is also another very valid notion and that is that data is really unworkable . so what's the stop topic from a say asking for session, even after a few months, even if things were given to him, not the ones they want and even if anything was given to him. so people like professor corey has been proposing or speaking very clearly, how the allies can work with a members of the bosnian presidency besides dot extension is a whole new constitutional order in which their revolt a receptacle would be dissolved. and i do want to relate it to this mission, something that's also part of what survivors are voicing. and it's very clear that anything bosnians do across the political spectrum. and they are, there is a variety on that political spectrum as well. and even those who do struggle for liberal democracy are almost never going to be given benefit of the doubt in terms of there will always supposedly be some secret implement agenda most often for
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trade in some anti muslim terms. so that not only this on just but it's dangerous, it's very easy to get slammed online when you point the different nationalist currents. and when you state this, which professor hara mentioned, because it almost leads to this idea or allegation. all muslims almost being incapable of being bad or tolerance because of an issue i want to bring in another voice, or this is audra verbage. 2 actors, lawyer and a journalist solid people in boston had to gone now are facing, is biggest security and political crisis that we had in our modern history says his date of peace agreement was signed that falsely caused by the rhetoric and treads that new laura don dick is sharing, he's calling a boss yokes of muslims,
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he's a denial in genocide. he's a and that also provokes a lot of trauma. oh, that people are real living again now. and in but they had to go now and another voice here from this or from are you to audience? this is coffee stained, says best to split it up as peacefully as possible. so that a long term piece can take hold. yes ma'am. yeah, this is, we've been hearing this for her. it's 99. these right, is this an ecology of a peaceful breaker causing her to be answered by the fashion this was attempted in the 1990 s mr. nationalists and prior nationalists and by the here to green is that your graphic and strategic center of the of the western balkans. it has a very, very old histories of sovereign states. it is harm serves, cried spar snacks, and other communities, jews, roman many others on there is continuous attempts by
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a frank, reactionary extremist movements to great cost this country. and every attempt to do so has resulted in extreme asthma islands, crimes against man and that there. cuz it's gonna be the end of our show. the next step in this process might come on friday when the parliament of the republic of surf, sca considers dote x plans until then we'll see you next time ah december on and just either. that's how host the feet that are up camp, a momentous event for the region and a glimpse of what's in store for the 2022 wildcat. people in power investigates the use and abuse of power across the globe. a well exclusive interview with joint nobel peace, laurie recognized the safeguarding freedom of expression as a pre condition for democracy and lasting peace from shore. documentaries,
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