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stadiums, the 20th century, i will keep you across the action. as council prepares for the region's biggest ever sporting events. the fee for our cup on algebra. ah, hello, i'm marianne mit in london, our main stories this hour and wiki league sound a julian assange has lost his latest bit to stop exhibition from britain to stand, trial and united states for leaking military secrets. the last one at 4 pm at the high course in london with judges of returning an earlier ruling that assange would be a suicide risk if he lost sanctuary in prison. the 50 year old australian face is up to 175 years in jail, if convicted on several charges, including publishing classified military documents about was in afghanistan and
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iraq, and him on the reports now from the high court in london. with his decision is clearly a big setback for the campaign to free julian assange. now, lawyers for the us back in october, all you hear the term very julian assigned would not necessarily be held in solitary confinement in a so called super max prison in the u. s if he were extradited. and in fact, they said that there had been assurances diplomatic assurances that he could serve any jail centers in australia. the judges here now effectively deciding that those assurances overrides the risk of suicide by julian assange, which was presented as a major factor of the original hearing in the lower court lawyer for the u. s. also said that, so the court needed to take into effect into consideration the fact that julian assange now has 2 young children with his partner, stella morris. now,
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she was actually in court. on friday, i'm spoke shortly off to the decision came. i think a high court affected all the medical evidence in the conclusion to the magistrate opinion and expedited and played unrestrained condition by placing it will drive him to take it on like an expedition in yet the high force decided against william on this occasion when i'm with the international has called this decision, a travesty of justice. so may say the charges in the us raise serious questions about press freedom. that's the sentiment that shared by all of julian assigned you support is here. terrible, terrible. it's terrible day for democracy. it's a terrible day for journalism. it's a terrible day for independent, independent judiciary. isn't that a bad day for people's rights?
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there's no room for hope. this system and this judiciary. i know it never had any intention to free julian and to allow him to be released. they kept him in prison all these years in a high security prison in solitary confinement, and waited all these years to deliver this judgment. for the time being julian assange remains in bo mosh prison in south london. in theory, he still has the possibility of appealing this decision to the supreme court is not clear how long that process would take. but i says in may and marveled a silent strike against military roll. and the ousting of the democratically elected government businesses were closed and streets and markets deserted across the country. on friday,
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me and my was plunged into crisis in february when the military or the through leader, unsung sushi and had government a true than triggered daily protest and violence between the military and ethnic minority groups. united nations as accuse me and mars, military of crimes against humanity. an overcrowded truck is crashed in southern mexico, killing at least 54 people. they were migrants heading to the united states, dozens more, were injured elise despite the truck overturned and hit a steel bridge because it was so overloaded on to john as have been awarded the nobel peace prize. in a ceremony in oslo. maria ressa from the philippines on the russian. john is the new motor told, with joint you're receiving the prize for that fight to safe god. freedom of expression and do say with us now for a special live interview with those nobel peace prize winners in oslo. ah,
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ah ah, taking on powerful figures in the face of intimidation, arrest, and of death safeguarding freedom of expression is a precondition for democracy and lasting peace. more than 60 journalists were killed worldwide. last, a too many, $300.00 just currently detained in connection with it's against the sobering statistics that we didn't nobel committee awarded this year's price will be forwarded to journalists for that courageous fight to speak with maria reza bravely exposed, abuse of power, use violence,
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and growing authoritarianism in the philippines, raisa focus critical attention on president or trigo to today and the regimes controversial and deadly anti drugs counseling. dmitri laura to pass for decades, defended freedom of speech in russia under increasingly challenging conditions. he's been editor in chief of the independent newspaper, nevada, for the past 24 years. 6 of the papers journalists have been killed. maria theresa and dmitri murat off 2 journalists, working thousands of miles apart, but united in their fight for freedom of expression. mm. ah, whoa,
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whoa, whoa, whoa, cooper, noble interview al jazeera, special live from oslo. james base and am foley barty born in it's 120 year history . the nobel peace prize has been awarded to several journalists, but never before have to been honored at the same time just a few hours ago here at oslo city hall, maria race are from the philippines and russia as dimitry murray top jointly accepted the prize. dedicating the award to colleagues of been killed in the line of duty in the next hour will be speaking to boast about the challenges and dangers they. and journalists all around the world face were also lucky to have my audience here suitably distance and with their masked song guess. and our audience members
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will have the opportunity to ask questions. and you too can take part in our conversation, where streaming live on facebook, youtube and twitter connect with us using the hash tag, a j nobel. congratulations, dimitri motor. tough and maria. rather congratulate here. welcome to you both, maria. i'll start with you. the last time a journalist won the nobel peace prize. this magnificent city hall in oslo hadn't even been completed. the year was $935.00 and the prize as you know, went to college on asi etzky. he alerted the world to the fact that hitler was rearming. it was just before world war 2. he never got here to pick up his prize because he was in a not see prison camp a dangerous moment. then do you see parallels?
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absolutely. i think that's the signal that the nobel committee were sending out right, that we are yet at another similar moment historical moment, an existential moment. and that we must, while this is me now saying we do something about it for a hit to reach a do you agree with that? is this award symbolic of a world? on the brink, are we at the precipice of what happened after 1935 at a touched new approach. oh, this is a very exact question which we are talking about the world. because the state, when they saw a war dictatorship or james the all ways, or i want a victory parade your more or feel means that all the manager and he logs. but war is really the hall is lo. she was a coffins and a grade graves and tears that we did sustain doesn't want to see those mattel,
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coughing, she, they want to see green that hangs and squares to be greeted by the victorious people hungry. but german is described. coffins, sweat, and tears. he stood, he says, the journalistic profession, mrs. cooper, all was. why always professional journalists are exchanged or as you hear about the regime for washington, not early, not so much against declaring it just to, to, to keep yourselves in power it. maria in 1935, as james said, are the laurie then car one us yet ski didn't make it to ask, nor because he was languishing in an i c jail cell. you almost didn't make it either. yes, it how quite they took agreements from 4 philippines court to obtain the permission to travel here. and you've just had a libel case, a new one. i against you as you were here in oslo. you know, how do you feel about that? then what do you think in me out in the end helps your case?
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i was it international pressure or is this perhaps assigned that there is some independence in the philippines justice system. i will say yes to all 3 so. so the 1st i think is that, you know, i've had 10 criminal charges filed against me. 3 have already been dismissed. 7, remain. and in order to be able to come, i have to ask for permission from court. so imagine losing your freedom to just change your flight. you can, i can't do that anymore. but the other side is in, in terms of where we are in and why this moment. it's the same thing, no matter which country you're in the same methodology. the weapon is ation of social media followed by the weapon ization of the law. right? this weapon, ization of social media, gets rid of facts. when you crumble the facts and russia knows this much better, you know, we, i was asking dmitri last night, so how do we avoid the doubting of facts? um, but it is part of the russian military doctrine to weaponized to make you doubt. so
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that's the 2nd weapon, ization of, of social media followed by the weapons ation of the law. there are more journalists who are under attack because of that. and then finally, the last one is, my gosh, how can we do our jobs if trust is broken down? the people watching, do they believe us, that that's the core of the problem i think that we're facing today. dmitri, we've talked about a dangerous moment. and i want to get your expertise here. because as you know, earlier this week, president putin was on a video call with president biden as troops amassing russian troops near ukraine. there may be as many as a 120000. you have covered, present potent, all the time, use in power 22 years. so i want to know your view on this. do you think he's going to invade and do you even think he's actually decided whether he's going to invade or not at this point? jammed um,
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telephone put i can hear you cuz i need his phone number so you can call him and ask him, do you have an assessment of whether it's likely you, you've seen, you've seen what happened when he, when, when, when russian troops went into crimea, would you say it's likely or unlikely at this stage, barbaric as it was because i still put in the near telephone 1st. i mean, i put in doesn't have his own phone attribute, i'm sorry. but what it, what is the strategy, timothy? what is the end gay ah, our strategic tucker, ah, the strategy ease of falling. it is very clear in symbol. in order to pneumonia, the crew ha, a distract people from gray near the oak. none of them in the military forces has until johnston ukraine. don russell, a few of the private army or the oligarch mala fav entered into the city of slavin
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and started this ukrainian war war. really a blood shed in the grange who lying as to that, who supported it with their equipment and vehicles relief which yahoo! good they are. is there any doubt? unfortunately, it all comes from my trunks rangers. one final question on this, we're talking about journalism and influencing the public. if putin was to invade ukraine, what do you think it would do to his popularity in russia? what would it do to his approval ratings at the at a torchlight. so look, no sir. this is a very precise assessment yesterday, but a, she is a lawyer or a few young zillow, russian retreats, or you have a wish to restart a soviet union. this is another way of wording it does put in a want to restore the soviet union or mean on your thoughts,
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never to be. i do not have any process answer revive to a lot of the processes that are taking place with their consumer from below russia . this conservative rhetoric, i must tell you this are cornel 13, use laurie valgy are on the past as improving the course and visual image august. borlin put in is not the smallest a personal show if this is just i know my 1st my me degree. when would be pretty hard to erect and monumental for historians repressions, but over the country we have this little ghost of style and we're coming back and this imperial ambitions. they are of definitely a place while the me 3, let's take a closer look at your newspaper now via gazette. i was 1st set up using some funds provided by form, appraising behind gorbachev's another piece. price laurie. it is published articles, critical, a own subjects, ranging from corruption, the lease violence electoral fraud, and the use of russian military forces,
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both within and outside of russia. the newspapers, opponents have responded with harris meant violence, and murder al jazeera is bernard smith visited nor via gazette. his office is in moscow. let's take a look at his report. dmitri murat of has led no via gazette for much of the nearly 30 years. the newspaper has been published well. 2 2 2 the daily editorial meeting each as looks and sounds like many others held in newsrooms around the world. but in today's russia, this free exchange of ideas and opinions is unusual. where it once competed in a crowded independent media field, no via gazette, is now one of the few outlets that doesn't follow the line of vladimir putin is government. just are just the girl nicholas the social with the candidate, the so much legislation were forced to consider like mentioning any organizations that have been declared extremists,
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or undesirable or foreign agents. all of this we have to highlight, we get find all the time and they have to pay up. we also faced the risk like other median being labeled for an agency. we're totally sure in the via gazette a cannot and must not be labeled a foreign agent again. but we seen this happen randomly to of the media and individualism. nature is soviet union's last president mikhail gorbachev. how he sets up no via gazette. since then, it's journalists have exposed crimes of the soviet government wide spread, bureaucratic corruption and atrocities committed during the war to crush the independence movement in chechnya that's come at a cost ana pilot cove sky is reporting from chechnya earned her the label of traitor from the state controlled press. she was murdered in october 2006, 5 other journalists to be murdered for their work, of what has been called russia's bravest newspaper. i know that noun,
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journalism is the most difficult thing in russia, but her here in of our guys into we as to free. i think it's a very strange thing because a lot of my readers and a lot of my friends in, in my seating warm and they are still could be surprised when they air buy a new or paper. they open it and start to read. and they always surprised, and they always asked me or how i could you do this? you scream, dmitri murat off must have made countless powerful enemies during his time yet. but somehow he and his newspaper have survived in him over to escape premium in president vladimir putin congratulated the editor in chief for jointly being awarded the nobel peace prize. as more out of criticize the foreign agents law,
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that is stifling voices opposed to the kremlin. the no bell is says more at off for every one working at no via gazette. as a reminder, we have an audience with us in oslo city hall where just a short time ago the peace prize was actually awarded in front of the king and queen of norway, the taking one of those audience questions in just a moment. but if you home have a question, then you can send it to us on social media, the hash tag a j nobel. we've also been doing a poll on the issues that surround this discussion and will be giving you the results of our poll question at the end of our discussion. but the 1st of our audience questions here with me is catherine said, now catherine, your question please. i have a question for dmitri allen, if, when such strong regulations and restrictions on journalism in russia and obviously lots of threats. how do you have the courage to continue writing such critical articles, addressing government, human rights issues and other sensitive subjects to me to that question for the
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editor in chief of the newspaper, that's last 6 journalists. a my well, my 3 or more with the school tight then you lot, despite the rallies to cover that is pretty, the russian journalism is going through a dark gray li now her voice would on reject. our principal usual boys. when you bure, we don't tell you that, you know any one 0, down the belt under the belt and do don leak under the belt. dmitri novi gazette at is one of the last independent newspapers, media outlets in russia, which has not been labeled a for an agent, rushes for any registry. agents includes $95.00 people and outlets, some of which were added a day after you were awarded the nobel peace prize. why do you think you've been
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spared sher nemea to it, and i don't have an answer to this question because it's not up to me. it's not me who declares, oh media her for an agent. sure. but she's really never had a would you good the readers they influences and my go very engine. people thought you saw the way this woman. oh, good. glad to know for an agency for me. there are a paper will be declared a search for an agency condenser, but this isn't friends or is it can happen, researcher, and you're going to holly. you asked me, this is gretchen all the time. it is like, like you are looking forward to, you know, it's a fair question. so here is your critics will say, debbie tree that you've been sped and have been able to continue your reporting
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because you've maintained relationships in high places. you're friendly with friends of president putting what do you respond? yes, so there was so much mouth. this is a nice question, zapata never, you know, a good you recently lived well, we have investigate. did he's cover boy and arch there. aircraft crush image 17. we told you me teaching a bard the gave her the situation in chechnya. and could europe, serge, man to frighten dawson farmer's? mom we from tall a mom there. your water of the most turbine euros have powerful army, currently person or in russia and were under investigation. but you have a kind of a big ergo, i did that. oh, of the cousins real. oh yeah. you can lead to the thank you for some, for some one,
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for our existence. give it a proof, please. and waiting for a proof of proof of can you repeat that? hang on, just to talk to us as a dad psychiatrist, we have friends. you can hi rodriguez and somebody who is covering us and somebody allowing us to perform well. for example, you've admitted our readiness that you took money from saggy. i don't. yeah. the business partner of an old friend of president put in is that not right? can you sure, of course you're doing it again. donna is a great if a choice. i know you got the mattress. beautiful guy. he has nothing to do with the date. i'm sorry. did joe sarah do do this for free? i'm to get paid. is that a part of when you portrayed on getting his salary the quarter to get going, if not, and so, so again, don't know if he's our investor, it's good that you can respond to this credit. the nika,
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some of your critics will say this, that the reason you still able to continue is because, you know, there's that line line leave a process. okay, well, not just investor, we haven't addressed her. we have our readers here. we have ours yank holders. we are limited company and what the problem can you ah, not explain it. oscars. yeah. do you suspect us in something, maria, this whole issue of funding is a big one. and it's used against journalists. and it's not just russia that has people declared foreign agents. the u. s. under the trump administration was declaring media foreign agents. go in the u. n. a. hungary, for example, very critical of foreign funding of media. i know rattler you've taken from money. do you have any qualms about that now knowing the way it's going to be weaponized against you? absolutely not. you know, because in there and look, look at it this way, right? there are 2 times that wrap. so we were start out
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a decade ago by january our seed round was our a group of, i still part of our board right now us. and then we had a series a that included a north base media headed by the former, a head of the washington post and the wall street journal, marcus broccoli, and then i mean, your network came in. and part of the reason we, i asked, i took this is because they focused on journalism and technology, civic engagement. so for me it's definitely i run it as a business, but it is a business of journalism which has a very strict sense of standards and ethics. the mission of journalism remains clear. in fact, the shareholders agreement and neither north base media nor a media network are shareholders. there philippine depository receipt holders, meaning they have, it's like they bet on a horse at the ymca, if we do well,
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then they can get out. of course, now we don't do well because we're under government attack, right? but, you know, if, if we do well, then they can get is, can nomic gain out of it. but in terms of control, our shareholders agreement gives all the control to the journalists. dmitri, i'm going to admit something now that journalists don't often talk about, but there been times when i been working in difficult places. an example, i spent a long time working in afghanistan, and there were stories that i didn't report. now i didn't report them maybe because the threat to a safety of a colleague or because they would jeopardize that even bigger story i'm, i've been working on. so i want to ask you is self censorship. part of the way you've worked, keeping your newspaper surviving for 20 years or you believe, and it will not, and shall use it intelligence, a disadvantage for
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a person. thank you, dmitri. um, we have another question from the audience. and i know the next question is from siemens, or if you have a question, please sibling. thank you. there's a question for both of you are considering this price is highly esteemed, as his internationally recognized. and the eyes of the world are in many ways looking at you now. do you believe this noble price will bring unwanted attention to you? work by people who are against it? that may be okay to work harder in the future. maria, you are potentially you said it in your noble speech speech, facing a 100 years in jail. they let you come to was low, but everyone should be aware they haven't dropped the charges against you. how do you answer that question? ah, it's a shield. at least this is what i've learned, you know, in in 2018 when i was one of the guardians of truth for time magazine. i didn't know that and i found out about it on twitter and you know, i thought, oh my god, sinking feeling and stomach, this is, this means i'll be i'll come under more attack. but what it wound up doing was to
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actually help because the only defense a journalist under attack has is to shine the light. and this nobel light is the biggest light you can have right now. right? so i hope that we can help focus it on those dark places on the people who need help. we're very lucky. we're here with you today, but there are others just 36 hours about as i said this in the nobel lecture. you know, a former colleague of mine just mother bananas was sitting in, in a, in his store in front of his home. and a bullet targeted him went through his head and he's dead. he is the 22nd journalist to be killed, but you know, it was a shock to our community, but we keep going because because this time matter, so yes, i hope that it will help us shine the light. yeah. the 22nd journalist to be killed
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in the philippines, as you say, maria, in the last 5 in the last hierarchy, since president are 30, came to power. more than 1600 journalists have been murdered in connection with their work in the past 20 years, according to reporters without borders. one of the most high profile cases were saudi journalist yamaha shoji. he was murdered in the saudi consulate in turkey and his thumb ball in 2018, and more than a dozen high, profound saudi officials have been charged. some tried in sentence in saudi arabia, in connection with his death a year earlier. daphne kajuana, gilead sierra was killed in a car bomb attack in malta. she'd been looking into government corruption, a public inquiry found the state was responsible for her death. in july this year, dodge crime reporter peters of rees was gun down in amsterdam. he'd been advising a prosecution, witness in a case against why the netherlands most wanted criminals. hundreds of other journalists remain in detention, including al jazeera,
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he sham abdel aziz who has been held in egypt for more than 2 years. several of the networks journalists have been the target of egyptian authorities since 2013, leading to a global campaign under the hash tag. journalism is not a crime. dmitri, a 6, no, via gazette, a journalist, including annapolis, taska, were killed for their work. now in these cases, in all these cases that i just mentioned, some people have been brought to justice, but very often, not. the masterminds is to trend around the world. journalists are being killed with impunity. what channel corolla you're taught to the right? oh, but that's a clear 15 views is booster. has the people who have passed food since i'm not deliberate. oscar was killed in some of the october is the day for her. 15 years is the limitation time.

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