reporter peter's of rees was gun down in amsterdam. he'd been advising a prosecution. witness in a case against why the netherlands most wanted criminals. hundreds of other journalists remain in the tension including al jazeera. he sham abdel aziz who has been held in egypt for more than 2 years. several of the networks journalists have been the target, or the gyptian authorities since 2013, leading to a global campaign under the hash tag. journalism is not a crime. dmitri, a 6, no via gazette or journalist, including anabolic task k, r, were killed for their work. now, in these cases, in all these cases that i just mentioned, some people have been brought to justice, but very often, not. the masterminds is to trend around the world. journalists are being killed with impunity. well, hello capella, you talk to the right r b. that's a clear 15 years now booster has with half past 15th, on the public,

oscar was killed on some of the october is the day 15 years is the lamentation time for the criminal system had called the master mind from it goes on, punished, we dare and deny acknowledging this limitation time only pur, seeing the same, we will claim that prosecution of will to find the evidence that we are for we have found the evidence of the witnesses, the social with man, so we can find a mastermind. there was another murder of my friend when the colleague julie, she says you can, you was. but most prominent st. louis and russian or journalist would die at her and during dying or old having poisoned. he has lost his skin. in the last, in the course of 3 days, i will not see so far. we don't know the reason and the organizers who august this emergency and really the killers, all of our lawyer, martin care love. and our reporter last at bob watermark are not found yet

will not stop will will pursue this. but this is, did spawning trent most the day will find the all the, all the, her former all been, are you murder? but the mastermind will never be fallen because the state knows very well. who he is. maria, what do you think the international community should be doing about this? not only to protect journalists and to ensure that they're not killed, but when there is a crime to ensure that the real perpetrators to masterminds a brought to justice it. one of the things i said is that when states target journalists, they should be held accountable. we have a mechanism in place to do that, the united nations, and yet what we've seen in some instances is that, um it's faltered ray m. and again, we've seen a gauge volt. part of what we're looking at is really power and money. and it's how

journalists find the weakness, the weak points, but it is also how governments, in some instances work. and i think one of the big calls we should do right now is, since this moment matters, democratic states should stand up for the values should demand accountability. you leave little journalists alone. it's not enough so that that's one. the 2nd is journalist news organizations, right? we must collaborate and help each other, because the days when we used to compete with each other, i think those days are gone. we are now in the same side fighting for facts. and you know, who i know is that who i, who i call out on the other side is in many ways what has watered down facts are the new gatekeepers, the technology companies that have abdicated responsibility for the public sphere? well, let's get more of the globals perspective on the situation, but journalists around the world and among us,

the people in the audience with us is julie bassetti, from the international center for journalists. you've heard what maria and dmitri of said, that you look at the big picture. things are not getting better. other things are not generally getting better. no home things are quite disturbing. i mean, on the one hand we see actual cases of the murder of journalist declining in the past 10 years or so. and the reason for that is actually largely due to in a resolution of conflicts. it includes the effect that many journals have been locked down during covered, maintain the figures, there are on a gradual decline body locked up as well. the bus committed to project journalist said that last year, figures that just came out. 293 behind boston record a record indeed. and you look at the countries, china is the biggest jailer of journalist, followed by me and mar, followed by egypt, vietnam, belarus. so, you know, so on the, you have this balancing of re balancing of threats and among the really serious threats or digital era threats. and both, you know,

maria and dmitri are exposed on that level. so we see, you know, the weapons, possession of the platforms, and the failure, the abject failure of the platforms protect journalists within those ecosystems. let me just quickly um, ask you about some of the countries that have been really in the headline saucier. so you look, for example, at ethiopia, myanmar afghanistan, interestingly, those were all countries, there may be lots of problems there, but the media aspect of those conscious was seen as a success as her success story was a lot of backsliding in, in ethiopia, very recently. and, you know, and that the state of me and mar, in terms of human rights violations, including with journalists, you know, being imprisoned and, and exiled and so on. but i mean, i think we do have to consider the role of states, the role of political actors in these increasing digital era threats. so targeted surveillance we've just heard about, you know, the revelations around the pegasus software targeting journals and exposing them to

greater risk and their sources. we see gender online, violence being used against people like maria resar at a prolific level. i'm inspired by our say president deter taye or president paulson, r o in brazil. name your and your western comparative such as donald trump, for example. so you do this, this concept of trying to chill reporting by shouting down and threatening women journals in particular online is, is a serious risk. and i think in a maria or in particular, embodies the sort of epi center of risk faced by, by women journalists. and that it's kind of intersecting threats from digital to physical harm, along with the weapon possession of the law. and i think it's important that we highlight the fact that to day maria and dimitry were honored in his extraordinary way. and the committee to protect journalists and reported that borders have simultaneously condemned unmoved by the british courts to head towards allowing extradition of julie and assigned for publishing public interest information. i

realize it's a very complex and controversial case, but i think all of this has to be considered because it all comes down to sort of, if it's to criminalize work in the public interest. julie, thank you very much for joining us. let's take a little bit of a deeper look in into the country where maria works, the philippines. it is one of the most dangerous places in the world to be a journalist and the president there, rodrigo did. hersey, since he came to power in june 2016 has been waging his controversial war on drugs . his own officials aren't keeping count, but the, you and human rights office is they estimate that nearly 9000 people have been killed and it's been accompanied by a crack down on the media. alger zeros correspondent inman other is jemila alan duncan, a jeff conroy has been a journalist in the philippines for more than 10 years. it's covered almost every

disaster in the country and spoken to the impoverished people in the most remote community. but he says, the shut down of the country's biggest network that he works for a b, a, c, b. a news is a story he finds hard to grasp. it's easy for us to just walk away to throw in that bowel but abandoned the day. we all know that this is so much bigger than us, that we have a duty to perform. ah, we have to serve the ordinary filipinos and fight for democracy. that led to at least $6000.00 employees, losing their jobs and the closure of all of its regional use bureaus. it was widely seen as a fatal blow, especially to abc cbs regional coverage. but many in the countries provinces considered a lifeline. but the e, the a, c, b, n wasn't the only new service to come under attack. maria theresa, the co founder of online user again,

is ation. rattler was convicted of cyber libel last here and is facing allegations of tax fraud. the philippines is considered one of the most dangerous places in the world for journalists in 20 o 9. at least 32 were killed in what became known as the mag in band o massacre in the southern region of men. the, now it's considered the world's worst, a murder of journalists in the single day. during peacetime, philippine a journalist fe, the democratic space in the country has shrunk since the g good. the 3rd there became president. but despite that, they said they are still able to endure all the attack and stand firm in their resolve to keep reporting true to power. now that there is the autumn of the actory are the last year of yes, a you good feel and you could sense courage. it's like what bout is slowly breaking and that there's really you could see that there's bottled up

courage. there's bottled up hunger for it. change in i think the ground is shaking in a way for a more favorable ellen conky the future. many see her award as a recognition of the sacrifices made by philippine a journalist who say the may have been battle scarred over the last few years. but the remain about 4 years. and i've now joined our audience here in oslo city whole more to his questions coming up very surely. don't forget, you can also be part of our conversation. you're watching his on social media on tv, connect with us, or using the hash tag a j nobel and we've got a few questions coming from twitter. i'll be glad to talk telling you about them in just a moment. but maria, before i come to our next audience question that report there from the philippines ended on a positive note on a note of optimism. the future rodrigo,

to tear to his term ends in a few months. he standing down. does the crime down he initiated and with him, or will it outlast him? up impact weiss, it will outlast his administration. ah, it has taught habits to officials to push back against journalism. the old checks and balances are gone. but then beyond that, it depends on who wins, right? of right now, in many instances, we have a replay, it's almost back to the future of 1986. when you have a mark was against a woman against a widow, marco's versus the widow. and part of, i guess, the reason why we become yet another canary in the coal mine, whether our democracy survives and there are 2 things on the line in our me, elections, facts, whether facts, revive, and rule of flaw survives right. that will partly be dependent,

not just on what filipino journalists do, but what these very powerful american social media platforms do as well. i will talk about the issue of social media in just a few minutes. let me bring in john a viper who has a question for you now maria john. hi. um. so my question is ah, what would you say to young aspiring journalists there may face similar challenges to the ones that you faced yourself. so 1st, thank you for the question and know that, you know, a young aspiring journalist, this is, i use the phrase, creative destruction, right? the world as it used to be, our world is dead, you know, and, and everyone is just getting used to that. so that 1st is the excitement of you can help create what journalism is going to be like in the 21st century. that's one.

but the 2nd part is, you, especially as a woman, are going to face far more threats than i ever did. when i was your age. i might news organization used to be able to protect me from things like that. so, the best advice i give is the same advice i give rambler, reporters, which is you think about your fears. what is your worst fear, and then embrace it. whatever it is you're most afraid of, you touch it, hold it, and imagine it. and then think through what you will do if that happens, come out with a plan and then let it go. drill it if you need to, we drill it in wrap blur. but when you do that, you take away the fear and then you do your job. that's some great advice, joanna. great advice. thank you, maria. i dmitri, i have a question here from social media. terry, on twitter. who asks, do you have any plans to create pressure on governments like bangladesh has to stop

the brutal oppression of press freedom? how do you put pressure on governments almanac, new cookies plan. i don't have to know any plans to solve. just put this authorities under pressure. i work with a community with a society. good. i don't. oh yet the back up. think about the authorities, but i have succeeded in my work. we have reached many things with her to achievement. what we need is our readers, not the bureaucrats or authorities. okay, we have another audience question. ah, where is isaac? besta? isaac is here at the front. awfully. okay. in the meantime, what, why don't i jane speak up may be, it may be or when we, as we get to, isaac may be something on, you know, the democracy summit that the u. s. initiated or this week james or democracy

summit, you both smoker that democracy summit with president biden hosting it? i was interested maria, who was invited and who wasn't invited. because there were countries like hungary, for example, that says it has elections and is a democracy. turkey again says it's democracy has elections. they were very pointedly disadvantaged it yet your country, the philippines, where you have so many concerns, were invited you through the, by the administration sent the right signal event. and what you want fe, and i think part of it is where the philippines is today, whether we sink or rise. that's what, what's happening right now are in terms of dealing with the administration. i think the philippines is also at strategic ally, our south china sea or the west. what we call the west philippine sea is, are in many ways critical to us interests. so there's a lot of our pragmatism must have moral boundaries. and i

think that, you know, when you take the philippines right now, which way will we go? ah, there's an assay, an idea of constructive engagement. this seems to be the route that the biden administration has taken largely because of the conditions that are needed. is that good for me and for the journalist there at this point in time and the 5th year of the deterred administration? why not? okay. isaac versa, we found him. right. your question, i think, yeah, the question for both of the alerts are, since history has shown us that democracy is closely linked to war and peace, or what do you think is the greatest threat to democracy to day? maria, when lies become facts. because that brakes are shared reality, and that allows the manipulation of the public. dmitri, i want to ask you about social media and the effect of it in russia,

because we've heard maria talking about how social media and dis information to be very negative. but actually in russia, social media has been a major disruption disruption, but it's certainly not helped the government, it's certainly not help president putin's approval ratings has it. it seems to have helped the opposition. do you think that without social media, and i know he's been poisoned, and he's now in jail, that alexia in the valley would managed to get his message out. a mazda such alabama earth, which i want to supply you 1st job with dishes, but got them slower will sign every warrant. and maria has lancer manipulation. raina leads to war, which with a will go so they're not allowed to fulfill the city has its own. this when the social network in the bigger early manner to jerome about in the valley and another

teacher, i was a jackie and the answer. now i'm answering you think it was another question for us to put, i'm answering your so the most important social network in russia. that's because all the from countries have come, toxic are uniting 70000000 users from has now been purchased by the state through its company. it goes from. so social network order in russia has become a weapon of state to for the states weapon are stoker. so follow constant abalone seating noah locust. not at all. still little about the valet was washed by 120000000 people who bugged to support him in the streets. there were 15032000000 to him, so we have more earth spectators of them allies. so this is the problem. so we'll just to year, but you gotta have inc. and number 3, you are watching a content. doesn't lead to going to becoming an ally for this problem is not solved yet. when it comes to alex,

he will not find me. i have really talked about him here in this, or of course for the sign would love to say he is a very courageous manifest mere as that has passed through death. and i wish him to be released from the prison, and those people who falsified of his acquisitions must be present and just may be the same. so, dmitri, the kremlin, and kremlin and linked groups have been accused of using social media to influence elections. the u. s. elections of 2016, for instance. the brick set vote in the u. k. ah, how dangerous in your view is information warfare on global democracy? nick nick, awkward in from a saw me right. there is no information warfare you will if you were just for her. and this war uses different ways of a weapon. weapon. this information. he has always been views. it doesn't. it's not

any different as your whether you how it from your i phone screen or falsified view from papers. this information has always been without him walk very by a weapon to talk about his high breed wars is a, it's a mixture all ma'am, or outside in fields when they are running with a dirty, i'm the like what was and those people who sit by their screen by the computers and operate, there is no price difference between tanks and serve it. interesting, maria, in many ways, what allowed you to set up a new multi media company? rapper was multimedia technology and had platforms like facebook must have seemed like a great opportunity. well, how did it go wrong? what happened to the idea of social media for social good. ah, an economic model called surveillance, well surveillance, capitalism. a,

you go back to that economic model. it is shashana zuba wrote a 750 page book that basically says that, you know, our, our data which we put into social media is picked up and organized by e. i micro targeted, sent out. this determines the quality of the information you get through social media, and the algorithms of distribution actually prioritize lies, disinformation, heat, anger. this information came from a russian word, this in formats here, right? part of the russian military doctrine. at some point, this is a global, it is now part of the dictators playbook. so what happened was, in 2012, i couldn't have imagined how are how words, how, how information, how social media could have been weaponized until 2016. i didn't know that. and

then we saw it, we saw free speech used against free speech, right? the fire house, a falsehood coming at you. if you are the target, you see how the tactics evolve. you get pounded to silence and then this, the last part of that is a met a narrative replacing your voice. in our case, as you use, journalism is not a crime. it was journalists are criminals. maria is a criminal, pounded a 1000000 times until people believe it. so it another weapon against journalist say, which we don't talk about enough, is it? sometimes you don't have to jail them. you just have to tear down to repeat their reputations. and so look, i guess like i drank the cooley and i haven't given up. we're facebook partners. a rapper is one of 2 only to filipino fact checking partners or facebook. we continue to work with facebook. we continue to work with google news initiative with youtube . because you can't put the genie back in the bottle. technology is here,

but what we can demand is a technology become friendlier to democracy. dimitry many people, it's clear from our discussion, do not believe, fact based, proven information. and it's not just a problem for journalists. we're in the middle of a pandemic, and scientists and doctors people aren't believing them. are you surprised by all this information that surrounded cobra? 19. dmitri. ah, nascar with a boy. we are in the middle of all that per unit of time that has passed through spirit to beautiful while no to now every one is concerned about his own ideas and not the tags. social scientists and the food. he shows that that document, if he it 5 percent of the ball or even knowing this is truth and this is a, this is line. should the bottles, are they alike in a lie better?

they will concern a consider lie as tooth. nice, great. this is in the happening already. we are at the very bottom here. let me ask manipulation of me, human mind to i'm not surprised in, during this graph there make, i'm always lying or global warming or computer or non traffic or consideration theories that have been presented here cause they're all under. she makes a new person and gives him a feeling that he's an intelligent and he trusts this feeling and we are trying to do something about it. but so far we have not extended our ordeals. you literally googling con, as i told you at the beginning of the program, al jazeera has been doing a poll in the last few days for this discussion that we put forward a really simple question. do you trust journalism? and i'm afraid the result was very clear cut the result of the poll almost 71

percent said no. so just 29 percent of people trust journalism, maria erection, is it real? is it or was this part of an information operation? was it, and you know, again when you go through i, i, i, i guess it's 3 ways, right? the 1st is, um we use social media because it's engagement that the old word engagement now is replaced by. is it real? are they real people where they mobilize to do that? i know i feel real people are you, you must be discouraged by that. all the risks that you take that dimitry takes? no, i understand it because behavioral science shows the weaknesses of our biology. if anything, that's the optimistic side, right, you can see that we are all identical in the sense that we're easily we're, we're being manipulated in the same way. and what a, what a demand is stopping that. insidious manipulation. it's behavioral

economics in many ways, right? so that must stop in order to allow journalist to do our job, lack of trust in journalism. how do you solve it? to matri? rosetta, you know, or me and yet pretenses. prof. shannon from the little i support the professional journalist they are good or you know, experts on their work with them. silly a database is with big data there in the field. they operate with insiders, but i don't like the readers use that people don't read anymore. they can't just me, she's like now the n allies j information. we need to get them from teach them how they should agreed on. you've made your thought, oh, god will doubt and knows. you know where there is a cake and there's the shades in really died no problem. now it is

a global problem. what is the global solution? where's the global mechanism? that's what we need to do. i think that's why the nobel committee chose journalists at this point in time, you know, and, and just like post hiroshima post world war 2 new global structures must come in place. you know, it, after world war 2 was the united nations. and then the universal declaration of human rights. those terrible. thank you so much the retreat. thank you. yes, we have come to the end of our show, a thank you so much to maria, theresa and dimitri. more a tall be 2021 nobel peace prize. lori, it's thank you to audience here and also feel i have a deductible. and the whole thing with

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