ah, how fast they are, these are the help stories, g 7 or an municipal gathering in liverpool, in the u. k. along with delegates, from se on nations. all there to discuss the range of global issues from the pandemic to the build up of russian forces on ukraine's border or challenges there for us. there will be many topics, conversation that these foreign ministers are going to be going over. the poet, of course, is one of them. there is the new varian omicron, spreading around the world, particularly in the united kingdom. this event is very much a masks on one, but they will also be talking about the perceived threats of russia and china with the build up of forces. russian forces live ukrainian border. there is still a fear amongst g 7 countries that there might be some kind of military action against ukraine. understandings in the occupied west bank are voting in local council elections. these are the 1st polls in 2 years, but the lead of the sutton house remain at odds over when to hold the next general

election. last one of those was 15 years ago was leading nuclear inspector is told out of the, or iran needs to grant more access to its program if it hopes to establish trust tools to revive the 2015 de la. continuing in vienna the ages he and he ran are trying to come to an agreement on or basically 2 things. one is the capability or the ability of the agency to return to one facility, one specific facility in iran, where we need to reinstall cameras that need to be there. and it has been difficult to do this. so we have been talking about this and the other thing is how to address a number of issues which need to be clarified. the agency found traces of nuclear material in places that had not been declared before in the u. s. can now

send money to canisters using financial institutions controlled by the taliban and the county network. the groups are otherwise subject to us. sanctions. this money, the lifeline, both for many afghans. the us warning nearly 9000000 are facing famine. this winter . a new law in germany requires health work as he had vaccinated against covered 90 . auditions are also considering making covert vaccines, compulsory for all german adults and south african side to say there's no sign. the micron varying is causing more severe cases of corona virus. hospital data shows admissions are rising sharply, but patients are spending less time in care and deaths remain. right pity it. always along with the news are in half an hour time next. during the nobel interview, 2021. that is a diplomatic to james base and folly about the bo speaking to the recipients of this year's nobel peace prize fight. there is no channel that covers world views like we do. the scale of this camp is like nothing you've ever seen access to

health care, but we want to know how do these things affect people? we revisit plate day, even when they're no international headlines. they're really invest in that. and that's a privilege. as a journalist, bmw taking on powerful figures in the face of intimidation, arrest, and of death. safeguarding freedom of expression is a precondition for democracy and lasting peace. more than 60 journalists were killed worldwide last night, with a 100 journalists currently detained in connection with against the sobering statistics that being a widget nobel committee awarded this year's price will be $2.00 journalists for their courageous fight to speak with maria reza bravely exposed

abuse of power and use violence and growing authoritarianism in the philippines. raisa focus critical attention on president rodrigo to today and the regimes controversial and deadly anti drugs company in dmitri laura toff house, for decades, defended freedom of speech in russia under increasingly challenging conditions. he's been editor in chief of the independent newspaper, viagas eta, for the past 24 years. 6 of the papers journalists have been killed. maria race and dimitry, murat, off 2 journalist working thousands of miles apart. but united in their fight for freedom of expression. mm. ah,

hello hello and welcome to noble interview al jazeera, special live from oslo. james base, and am foley by t bore in it's 120 year history. the nobel peace prize has been awarded to several journalists, but never before have to been honored at the same time just a few hours ago here at oslo city hall, maria race are from the philippines and russia. dimitri more a top jointly accepted the prize, dedicating the award to colleagues of been killed in the line of duty in the next hour will be speaking to boast about the challenges and dangers day, and journalists all around the world face. we're also lucky to have my audience

here suitably distance and with their masks, all guess. and audience members will have the opportunity to ask questions. and you too can take part in our conversation, where streaming live on facebook, youtube and twitter connect with us using the hash tag, a j nobel. congratulations, dimitri motor. tough and maria. reza, congratulations here. well, come to you both, maria. i'll start with you. the last time a journalist won the nobel peace prize. this magnificent city hall in oslo hadn't even been completed. the year was $935.00, and the prize, as you know, went to college on ozzy etzky alerted the world to the fact that hitler was rearming. it was just before world war 2. he never got here to pick up his prize

because he was in a nazi prison camp a dangerous moment. then do you see parallels? absolutely. i think that's the signal that the nobel committee were sending out right, that we are yet at another similar moment. historical moment an existential moment, and that we must, while this is me now saying, we do something about it or a hit to reach a do you agree with that? is this award symbolic of a world? on the brink, are we at the precipice of what happened after 1935 at a touch, new or push? this is a very exact question, ej. we are talking about the world because the state, when they saw a war, dictatorship, old regime, the all and ways are i want a victory parade. your more i o feel means that all of the most and he logs, but war is really the hall is through is a coffins and

a grade graves and tears that we did sustain. doesn't want to see those mattel coughing. really want to and see green that hangs and squares must to be greeted by the victorious people her gra, but german is described coffins swipe and teary. still. he says the journalistic profession. ed maria in 1935, as james said, are the laurie then car one or c. etzky didn't make it to us, nor because he was languishing in an r c jail cell. you almost didn't make it either. yes, it's so quiet. they took agreements from 4 philippines court to obtain the permission to travel here. and you've just had a libel case, a new one. i against you as you were here in our snow. you know, how do you feel about that? then what do you think in the out in the end helps your case or was it international pressure, or is this perhaps assigned that there is some independence in the philippines justice system? i will say yes to all 3 so. so the 1st i think is that, you know,

i've had 10 criminal charges filed against me. 3 have already been dismissed. 7, remain. and in order to be able to come, i have to ask for permission from court. so imagine losing your freedom to just change your flight. you can't, i can't do that anymore. but the other side is in, in terms of where we are in and why this moment. it's the same thing, no matter which country you're in the same methodology. the weapon is ation of social media followed by the weapon ization of the law. right? this weapon, ization of social media, gets rid of facts. when you crumble the facts and russia knows this much better, you know, we, i was asking dimitry last night. so how do we avoid the doubting of facts um, but it is part of the russian military doctrine to weaponized to make you doubt. so that's the 2nd weapon, ization of, of social media followed by the weapons ation of the law. there are more

journalists who are under attack because of that. and then finally, the last one is, my gosh, how can we do our jobs if trust is broken down? the people watching, do they believe us? that's, that's the core of the problem i think that we're facing today. right, is that our is one of the last independent newspapers, media outlets in russia, which has not been labeled a for an agent, rushes for any a registry agency includes $95.00 people and outlets, some of which were added a day after you were awarded the nobel peace prize, why do you think you've been sped? just nemea to it, and i don't have an answer to this question because it's not up to me. it's not me who declares o media or an asian. sure, but she's really never had the audio good. the readers, they info answers and my girls are very engine. people who do you so the who this

woman also declared an a for an agency. your critics will say, dimitri, that you've been spared, and have been able to continue reporting because you've maintained relationships in high places. you're friendly with friends of president putting what do you respond? yes, so there was too much mel. this is a nice question is are perfect. never, you know, a grease and clear fully of the law we have investigated. he's cover boy and arch lever aircraft crush. image 17. we had to haul, you'd move teaching a bard. the gave her the situation in chechnya and could do of judgment at the frightened darcy's farmer, marquise from saul a bother you ought to of the most turbine heroes have powerful r, mccurdy, person or in russia. and we're under investigation,

but you have a kind of a big over i did that. oh, of the cousins real. oh you did. you need to think on it some for some one for our existence. give it a proof, please. i'm waiting for a proof of proof of or proof that a dad say that we have friends. you can hi rodriguez and somebody who is covering us and somebody allowing us to perform well. for example, you've admitted our readiness that you took money from saggy. i don't year the business partner of an old friend of pres put in. is that not right? kanisha? of course. yeah. i don't know if is a great, if a choice. i know she's got her makers, bertha. he has nothing to do with it. they don't. i don't just 0 do do this for free. i'm to get paid is are brought to when you pull, which i don't get any salary the quarter to get going, if not. and so, sir, again,

don't know if he's our investor it, it's good that you can respond to this criticism. echo some of your critics will say this, that the reason you still able to continue is because, you know, there's that line line leave a process. okay? well, not a huge investor, we haven't addressed her. we have our readers here. we have our stakeholders. we are limited company about what the problem, maria. this whole issue of funding. i know rattler you've taken forum money. do you have any qualms about that now knowing the way it's going to be weaponized against you? absolutely not. i run it as a business, but it is a business of journalism which has a very strict sense of standards and ethics. the mission of journalism remains clear. in fact, the shareholders agreement and neither north base media nor amiga network are shareholders. they are philippine depository receipt holders, meaning they have,

it's like they bet on a horse. if we do well, then they can get out of course. now we don't do well because we're under government attack, right? but you know, if, if we do well, then they can get is, can nomic gain out of it. but in terms of control, our shareholders agreement gives all the control to the journalists. we have a question from the audience and from semen. sir, if you have a question please, seymour. thank you. there's a question for both of you are considering this price is highly esteemed, as his internationally recognized and the eyes of the world are in many ways looking at you now. do you believe this noble price will bring unwanted attention to work by people who are against it? it's a she'll at least this is what i've learned, you know, in in 2018. when i was one of the guardians of truth for time magazine, i didn't know that and i found out about it on twitter and you know, i thought, oh my god, sinking feeling and stomach, this is, this means i'll be i'll come under more attack. but what it wound up doing was to

actually help because the only defense a journalist under attack has is to shine the light. and this nobel light is the biggest light you can have right now. right? so i hope that we can help focus it on those dark places on the people who need help. 6th, no via gazette i journalist, including annapolis task k. i were killed for their work. journalists are being killed with impunity were of general capella. you're totally right. ah, but that's a clear 15 years now booster has had with have past food since on the politic oscar was killed. oh, some of the october is the day of her 15 years. is the lamentation time for the criminal system? so as a mastermind from is a good goes on punished for we don't deny. acknowledging this limitation time only per seeing the same. we will claim that prosecution of will to find the

evidence that we are for we have on the evidence of the witnesses desertion with man. so we can find a mastermind with what this says. did bonita trent was that they will find the ogre all the local to former all over your murder, but the moss the mind will never be fallen because the state knows very well. who he is, maria, what do you think the international community should be doing about this? not only to protect journalists and to ensure that they're not killed. but when there is a crime to ensure that the real perpetrators to masterminds a brought to justice. it, one of the things i said is that when states target journalists, they should be held accountable. we have a mechanism in place to do that, the united nations. and yet what we've seen in some instances is that, um it's faltered ray m. and again, we've seen a gauge volt, part of what we're looking at is really power and money. and it's how journalists

find the weakness, the weak points. but it is also how governments, in some instances work. and i think one of the big calls we should do right now is, since this moment matters, democratic states should stand up for the values should demand accountability the future rodrigo to tear to his term ends in a few months. he standing down, does the crackdown he initiated and with him, or will it outlast him or impact weiss, it will outlast his administration. it has taught habits to officials to push back against journalism. the old checks and balances are gone, but then beyond that it depends on who wins. right? there are 2 things on the line in our me, elections, fax, whether fax or vive and rule of law survives right. that will partly be dependent. not just on what filipino journalists do,

but what these very powerful american social media platforms do as well go. we'll talk about the issue of social media in just a few minutes. let me bring in john a vi co who has a question for you now. maria john. hi. um, so my question is, ah, what would you say to young aspiring journalists that may face similar challenges to the ones that you faced yourself? the world as it used to be. our world is dead. you know, and, and every one is just getting used to that. so that 1st is the excitement of you can help create what journalism is going to be like in the 21st century. that's one . but the 2nd part is, you, especially as a woman, are going to face far more threats than i ever did when i was your age. the best advice i give is the same advice i give wrapped blur reporter switches. you think about your fears? what is your worst fear?

and then embrace it. whatever it is you're most afraid of, you touch it, hold it, and imagine it. and then think through what you will do if that happens, come out with a plan, and then let it go. that's some great advice, joanna. great advice. thank you, maria. i dmitri, i have a question here from social media. terry, on twitter, who asks, do you have any plans to create pressure on governments like bangladesh has to stop the brutal oppression of press freedom or monotony? cookie plant? i don't hate no, any plans to those options. put this authorities under pressure. i work with a community when a society good. i don't earth yet, the back up. think about the authorities, but i have succeeded in my work. we have reached many things with her that she have months. and what we need is our readers,

not the bureaucrats or authorities. your question, i think yeah, the question for both of their lords or since history has shown us that democracy is closely linked to war and peace. or what do you think is the greatest threat to democracy? to day? maria, when lies become facts. because that brakes are shared reality, and that allows the manipulation of the public. dmitri, i want to ask you about social media and the effect of it in russia, because we've heard maria talking about how social media and disinformation could be very negative. but actually in russia, social media has been a disruption, but it's certainly not helped the government, it's certainly not help president putin's approval ratings has it seems to have helped the opposition. do you think that without social media and i know he's been poisoned and he's now in jail, that alexi and of al me would have managed to get his message out. mazda such

alabama yet, which i want to supply you 1st job with dishes, but cover them flour will sign every warrant that maria has answer. manipulation. raina leads to war, which with a will go so they're not allowed to fulfill. the city has its own. this, when the social network in the bigger early manner, the most important social network in russia that's called from countries of complexity. a uniting 70000000 users has now been purchased by the state through its company goes from. so social network alden in russia has become a weapon of state for the states weapon. oh, struck a fellow constant bologna. see them know a little dismantled or seals. little about the valet was washed by 120000000 people who bucked to support him in the streets. there were 15032000000 cheer. so we have more earth spectators at them allies. so this is the problem. so we'll just to you,

are you gonna have inc? dba 3, you are watching a content, and then it doesn't lead to becoming an ally. dmitri, the kremlin and kremlin linked groups have been accused of using social media to influence elections. the u. s. elections of 2016, for instance. the brick set vote in the u. k. ah, how dangerous in your view is information warfare on global democracy? nuclear coin informa. so on me right, there is no information warfare. will it be? raj asked for her and this war uses different ways of a weapon, weapon and this information he has always been used. it doesn't. it's not any different as your whether you howard from your i phone screen or falsified different papers. this information, as we all was being would allow him to have a weapon to talk about as high breed wars, is a, it's a mixture. all ma'am,

are outside and feel that when they are running with a dirty i'm the leg was and those people who sit by their screens by the computers and operate, there is no price difference between tanks and serve it. interesting, maria, in many ways, what allowed you to set up a new multi media company, rosler was multimedia technology and had platforms like facebook must have seemed like a great opportunity. well, how did it go wrong? what happened to the idea of social media for social good, an economic model called surveillance, well surveillance, capitalism. a, you go back to that economic model. it is shashana zuba wrote a 750 page book that basically says that, you know, our data, which we put into social media is picked up and organized by a i micro, targeted,

sent out. this determines the quality of the information you get through social media, and the algorithms of distribution actually prioritize lies, disinformation, heat, anger. this information came from a russian word, this in formats here, right? part of the russian military doctrine. at some point, this is a global, it is now part of the dictators playbook. so what happened was, in 2012, i couldn't have imagined how are how words, how, how information, how social media could have been weaponized until 2016. i didn't know that. and then we saw it, we saw free speech used against free speech, right? the fire house of falsehood coming at you. if you are the target, you see how the tactics evolve. you get pounded to silence and then this, the last part of that is a met and narrative, replacing your voice. in our case,

as you use, journalism is not a crime. it was journalists are criminals. maria is a criminal, counted a 1000000 times until people believe it, and i haven't given up. we're facebook partners. raptor is one of 2 only to filipino fact checking partners for facebook. we continue to work with facebook. we continue to work with google news initiative with youtube because you can't put the genie back in the bottle. technology is here, but what we can demand is a technology become friendlier to democracy. al jazeera has been doing a poll in the last few days for this discussion that we put forward a really simple question. do you trust journalism? and i'm afraid the result was very clear cut. the result of the poll almost 71 percent said no. so just 29 percent of people trust journalism, maria erection, is it real? is that or was this part of an information operation?

i know, i say little real people are you, you must be discouraged by that. all the risks that you take that dimitry takes? no, i understand it because behavioral science shows the weaknesses of our biology. if anything, that's the optimistic side, right, you can see that we are all identical in the sense that we're easily we're, we're being manipulated in the same way. and what a, what a demand is stopping that. insidious manipulation. it's behavioral economics in many ways, right? so that must stop in order to allow journalists to do our job, lack of trust in journalism. how do you solve it? demetri? i suppose the professional journalist of their goods. i her eggs, birds are they work with her silly of the day? debases with big day her there in the field, very urban corporate with insiders,

but i don't like the reader to the hebrew. don't read any more. they can't. you should thank neither her own allies for information. we need to have that, the myrtle teach them how they should read. what is the global solution was the global mechanism. that's what we need to do. i think that's why the nobel committee chose journalists at this point in time, you know, and, and just like post hiroshima post world war 2 new global structures must come in place. you know, it, after world war 2 is the united nations. and then the universal declaration of human rights. thank you, sir. much. 33. thank you. yes, we've come to the end of our show. thank you so much to maria, theresa and dmitri moore at all be 2021 nobel peace prize. laurie, it's thank you to our audience here at oslo feel i have a whole team with

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