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far workspace does expand the open space, the amenities space in the offices. so there's more room for, for flow. so people are on top of each other. more and more workers are expected to return as the delta various feeds and vaccination rates continue to entire. but coven may have changed this landscape forever. kristen salumi al jazeera new york. ah. time for a quick check of the top stories here on al jazeera search teams are still trying to find survivors out. a dozens of tornadoes struck 6 us states. late on friday night. officials expect more than a 100 people have been killed in kentucky alone. we've now been granted the immediate federal state of emergency. it is rare. it was granted incredibly quickly and we are grateful to homeland security to fema and the president by himself. the
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ukraine. the statement came on the final day of talks in the u. k. city of liverpool. russia's military build up near ukraine's border has dominated the 2 day leading. moscow denies any plans of a military offensive residency to grind fighters of recapture the northern ethiopian town of land. bene, government forces said they'd taken the unesco world heritage site just under 2 weeks ago. rebels haven't confirmed the capture. they released a statement claiming progress after the launch of a major counter offensive. and voters in the pacific territory of new caledonia have rejected independence from france. my 3rd and final referendum turner was just of a 43 percent pro independence parties who boykin to the vote, se they'll contest the results. so those are the headlines. these continues here on al jazeera, after inside story statement. thanks for watching bye. for now. ah
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. is another war brewing in the balkans. politicians and the bosnian serb republic have voted to pull out of the union with bosnia and herzegovina, western countries, a warning that the session could de stabilize the entire region yet again. so why do this herbs want to quit? now this is inside story. ah, i work with the program, i'm kim vanelle. it's being described as the most serious crisis in the balkans region since the bosnian war at war ended in 1995 of the ethnic cleansing
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atrocities kill tens of thousands. both millions to escape the route of peace since then is being endangered by growing nationalistic rhetoric and a vote to split from bosnia and herzegovina. on friday, politicians in the bosnia serb republic, whole republic services voted to pull out of bosnia and herzegovina is 3 major institutions. the armed forces as well as the legal and tax systems. condemnation of the secessionist move has come from the united states. the european union, britain, france, germany and italy, all warning that stability of the whole balkan region is threatened. me pull out your license. we are withdrawing our permission for the joint armed forces of bosnia herzegovina. in the next 6 months, we will talk and see if there is a possibility to form a new structure for the armed forces considering our position. or we will pick any of 2 options to form an army of republic, setup sca, or submit the law for the general demilitarization of bosnia. and will begin
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a discussion about license developments in a moment. but 1st, let's take a look at what happened before between 992 and 995, both me and said muslims, adequate as for a bloody war which killed an estimated 200000 people. divided the country along ethnic lines. western nations intervened by sending military forces to keep the warring sides apart. after a u. s. initiative, peace was eventually achieved and what's known as the dayton accords. they divided both me into 2 or thomas regions. the federation of bows near at her convenience as well as the bosnian serb republic or public a subscript. both would function independently, but would govern jointly sharing the institutions of security. the rule of law and the economic system, which now the bosnian serb republic wants to withdraw from the okay did spring in august in san diego, the capital of bosnia herzegovina,
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and its largest city roof. by which, who is a former bosnian government minister. he's also vice president of the us europe alliance. that's an american organization which campaigns to boost trans atlantic ties in serbia as i'll just city belgrade is jericho crutch, former deputy prime minister of serbia, and in the german capital berlin. we have vote over senior associates at the democratization policy council. it campaigns to boost liberal democratic values. very welcome to you all. thank you for joining us all inside story. i'd to begin with you bite of which i just want to get your reaction. first off to this move by legislators in the republic of serbs go to essentially start withdrawing from these important national institutions. well, this is a clear attempt and breaking ups bothering her to go, you know, we know the bug, the war was stopped in 1995,
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but he never really ended the war simply moved from the battlefield to the institution and the bosnian serb leadership lead lead by mr. miller with the full support. and this is an important point of lead me to russia, have deemed it the right time to try to finish what they. ready started during the war. ready in the ninety's. so we're talking about a continuation of the genocidal policies of the ninety's with other by other me. so the idea here is to achieve by the answer war time goals, which were perfect, which included perpetrating a genocide through these for me. so they want to basically use the parliament to finish off what they couldn't do on the battlefield. okay. jack are allowed to bring you in. do you agree with that assessment all?
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what do you see is, as the aim here, as far as the daughter is concerned? the milliner no. did i agree that mill road dick basically was in or on the road? a separation of the public, a subs come from both the intent to when he's very clear about that. he's not so clear about the data terms, but he just the parliament of triple because sometimes they just a won't it for a i must emphasize that the whole of deal position in that parliament walked out. but his party, which has a majority just wanted to go along this process or separation, or which means he wants again to have a separate army. it will require some scar. he wants to have a separate security agency and some other institution, which is the fucked or a, a 1st serious will go up separation. he's not yet saying this is a but a sure,
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but he mentioned that white the number of times in previous month that at the end of this process, he wants a friend on a separation. meaning that a bully got some scout would, would become, are a sovereign in separate state from boston. had to go. ok, i'd like to bring you in. but of ever, if that is the road that republicans, there is on. what do you imagine the fall out will be well, i'm not sure. i mean, this is the road. is it the the aim of mr. dodie? i'm not so sure i'm. i'm rather worried that this is a child product by a completely, ah, in serious west and it's deterrence, a failure and fee of a result of 15 years of appeasement policy. that did not function at all. it, it backfired. i only if i has been policy while we have been appeasing since 2005,
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when basically the west has unilaterally the arms and is not using its instruments in by night civilian and military instruments to appease nationalist agenda starting with mr. dicks. what we're currently seeing, even in the more deepening crisis of the west, a since the beginning of this year, or something we've seen in costs or surveys the last 3 years off western negotiators, middle era officials of you and us trying to negotiate some settlements, allegedly trying to push through some breaking some political deadlocks on the reform agenda. but they see is by giving international agenda in the so called negotiations over a reform of the election law. and i see the current escalation in this context in which really the west is in the prices and is, is basically throwing overboard. it's democratic principles. and while he was, and i fear that the current dynamics,
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i mean mr. duty for 15 years is playing with fire. he is a machiavellian opportunity as he is using the them the tools that that this, this functional both in state gives him by raising ethnic tensions. for 15 years he is threatened maybe 30 times with professional or referenda for it seems for the whole time that he's, he's enjoying his alter return rule by not, you know, implementing these threats. and i'm not sure that was his plan. in this case. i've p m, or that we already in a very deep territory of political miscalculation in which he is finally forced to implement of threats and has no way to your turn because of the if you're responsible acting of you and us fish. ok, we'll talk about possible all france a little later in the program. but of it, is this a done deal then? is this is this happening or dis miller ad study? want to negotiate? like it is there and all friends?
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well, the off ramp is there, but dodie does not want to know for the west has repeatedly been offering off ramps to do for the last 15 years. and every single time he would take no one there would give him the most interesting to the very last offer. but what i fear is happening now is that it really is not acting along. he's acting at the behest of blood in it. and what's happening in botany, i think can only be mean fully understood if you analyze it in conjunction with what's happening across europe. so you, crane boys and girls are in my view part of the scene crisis. that is to get it from moscow for a little bit more. do you think that the build up of us and forces in east in ukraine is connected to what's happening here? can, can you just explain a little bit more for me?
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well, don't it was this was put in for several days ago. she meets him frequently. russia is openly supporting the succession drive and has been doing that for many years now. mister fulton has managed to get a for, for a number of years. you and especially berman angular merkel tacit consent for your daughter's behavior. because keep in mind that it was ever sanctioned by european union, nor were any, nor did any of the member states decide to bilaterally sanctioned him or cause any sort of a headache for you. so this is part and parcel of what's going on across europe for russians. are there fully for doing it? and this is something that a lot of people in the you don't want to see. they want to pretend that the crisis in bosnia and i think it's a regional crisis, it's on or you know, what stays in, but what happens in it doesn't stay above above, you know, it's not like biggest,
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you know, it's not something that you sort of p so p, p, so you're in real estate where you can have an isolated price and that's on us to lower applies to ukraine of course. but it has vocal support. so there are a number of indicators that the russian hybrid so called little green men. i think people have entered bonds, even in 2014. you have there are military units that the bosnian serbs have a built up with the russian help you had the usual suspects like the, the biker gangs, the, the people who showed up 1st in the crimea, in 2014, visit the body and several times. and it sort of looks like the same strategy except for the russian russians are unable to deploy. because by their so far away, they have to fly over either ukraine or to natal member state bulgaria, or romania. and it's not easy for them to get a rise to do a lot. i hear what you're saying. i want to know. i want to move this on to
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i new york on edge. what has serbia said about these latest developments? in particular, how does it do it? well, we have a president who was a young man in ninety's should belong to the most radical, nationalistic part, the serbia, mostly alive with from other middle sheet and he's party, he's a bit more silent lately. seeing obviously that don't the keys are that they sent them or might have a very dangerous in, but there is no doubt that mulligan actually supports what this is not doing. if you look at the w b a which are really, really controlled by the government. a dance reporting body that is absolutely no criticism. what don't doing and i run equally it, it goes under the very liberal. i thought that people are entitled to him are
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infinite enrollment, their faith. it looks a little bit closer to what you have in crimea. i'm not comparing really directly because i'm either really separate skate, but it looks like this. you know, like i was going to have a referendum and most of the people that will vote for independence. so we'll see what comes next. the problem is that i'm not so sure that the or has a joke or quote some joint joint position on this. i want to remind you that a few weeks ago, the prime minister hungary mr. norman was in by a luca, that's a capital of republic or some sca that these a political support for mister vondik in a very critical moment. and obviously mister dorothy is a seizing the moment he's seeing that by then administration has internal problems that are now engaged in southeast asia. neisha generally that there is a crisis on a border between ukraine and russia. and he is
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a very nickel using this one. but he's not losing sight of what's happening elsewhere in the world, the movement, european union that don't have some strongly that i'm sure not, your macro is that kind of leader america is now officially i retired a not active anymore politically. so he's actually using the moment don't fulfill his promise that the book, because such guy at the moment once he saying is that they want beck or a certain rights they had before before the army was unified. even separate army, separate vertical institutions, separate a security and so on and so are, are what you hear. i agree with mister there, but you see importance in foreign policy specially in regard to thought that europe you see importance or political importance of,
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of european union and the c u. s. not really having very high on their list of priorities. international, the balkans and bosnia. so don't it is actually a very correctly judging that he perhaps might even go through with all these things get going without real sanctions or are there warnings to him? there are even sits, said c h a lloyd, the sanction. or even if it seems like you're saying that he's seeing him on that end and he's seizing it. mr. vitaware would secession necessarily mean war some have decide describe the status quo a can to keeping bosnia and herzegovina on life support as opposed to, to, to really curing the problem. while i mean, we have to understand on the one side there, as i said, i mean this, the, these frets are here for 15 years. dozens of times we had these threats on this by
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the, the, our as national assembly for it's of succession a referendum. but you have never been that years now. these are the most concrete and for this going step. and the notion that has creeped under the skin of people in boston is that of war, that, that is, that of the 9094. of course, we are not here where we have been in the ninety's. we don't have ethnic armies. it is very hard to see practically how mister dody could form an average. how he could, i mean, the question is, could he pray up the bosnian army while the leadership which is still ethnic for sure, who would go that way or their new soldiers are really not inclined like like citizens imposing nodding fly, including in the arrest. the goal, any of these dangerous pass and mr. corrections already mentioned, half of the, of all of the parliament has left the parliament out of protest against this dangerous past the position. so it would for sure not be over in the classical
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sense, but i mean this is let, let us understand, this is not returning of any competencies. this is an anti constitutional path and it would be an unfair constitutional. it has been an anti confucius decision. and in the arrest parliament is friday and promote implementing these these announce laws that with implement this policy until may this year would be anti constitutional. so i mean this, this, this will lead to the break of bosnia and this cannot be peaceful if, even if it's not war in the classical sense or even in the ninety's sense. and of course, as mr. by rich has mentioned this cannot stay local or whatever. the intimate procedure of mr. which is the president, which is in survey, is by not openly speaking up. and basically, you know, by a, by pretending they had, they have, by pretending they, they, they do not share the position, but by basically lending the fact to support this is really invasion, direct, original security,
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whatever the russian procedure in here is. i just have to remind me that it was my organization that in 2014 published the information that beg then mr. though they already wanted to go after the ukraine crisis. 30 thanks station of crimea for the session that he was pushed by put in by that time mr. which was a lower so through to you integration, the west was not going along. so, i mean, if we talk about the scenario we're rochelle will or will not affect your train, it would be in an interest of me to mr. pudding to open the 2nd front than that. something that's currently completely omitted from western debate and from west and couples. ref, but which one analyst pen the suggestion and i'm interested in your take on it that the dayton accords was a good way to end the war. but a bad way to build a state that it has basically inherent problems. what's your take date in the system? does that mean?
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i don't think there's anyone who works on who will tell you that that's not the case. the problem here that data is not being helped. so the crisis is really not about date and my view, the crisis is about deciding that she does not like. now the language she uses is one of legalese, way of describing what he's doing is really not. that's crazy. but i mean, there's virtual consensus in the analysts community that we're doing is doing will lead to contract. and i think i hope that was right. but i think that we would have a serious, serious type of conflict. don't think you'd be, you know, several, several isolated. ready incidents dipole a conflict. it would be a real comfort because there are too many personal r as is
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a non contiguous sense. so for daughter to really make the independent state, he would need to see which is a city in the north obasi. i would separate the arson to there's the sure area around cerebral. so basically it would be once again you would have a foreign for a quote army write about it. we're talking about 3400 meters. the bird flies. so those things cannot simply cannot. they cannot, and though it is aware of this, it is very difficult to understand why he's pushing doris, which in this conflict would be the week or so. i mean, i think people agree about it as well. why he's pushing ers to, to, to, to the brink of war and the opposition in the are, is saying that he's basically gambling with what they gain during the war. i think they're correct because the they got a court base, the trolls, the whatever you had on the front lines in terms of or, and basically wrote
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a constitution based on that. now the facts on the ground 2526 years there are different. so it's really hard to understand duties, motivation and the only reasonable explanation that that one can make is that he's being pushed into this by putting because put them in my view has been asking from doing that. he actually, you know, create as deep of a crisis in the bottom as possible. and as i said, this is the 2nd for, for clinton or maybe a 3rd trunk. maybe we'll see something in bells as well. just to catch how much you do. we know what the people in the republican service go won't. where did these they support these moves are not. surely that's very good question. and a few times in the past weeks, i asked myself the same question because i don't think somehow speaks for the all of the people because i'm to go, i don't want to go in this program into technicalities,
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but that will make us some scar is now almost ethically, a one percent 100 percent serbian, it wasn't so before the war will go into the results of war because cleansing and horrible, horrible crimes. but at the moment a, it's almost ethically completely certain, sir, or ma'am, and i haven't seen any or been reported the fact that opposition walked out. i think it's significant. it's not just be cutting a hoisin power water who will gain its own. it's a rather serious move by the way, but the guy said when they walked out that they are traitors, it's, it's an interesting guy. and he so i, so i saw a rare, i want to pause you there because because i can see at a, off of it, yes it does. i just was at the record street with the got us from i respect to the much the full because that's guys not really ethically homogeneous. about 20 almost
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20 percent of the population is non cert. so you have a large, large returning communities above. yes, it will because i'm sca, especially in the area or in eastern bosnia they're used to party such as 7. so then the reality i'm under the bus, so the daughter would have to essentially, you know, engage an ethnic cleansing again because those populations are not going to accept being, you know, being part of overstayed, that's on bosnia. mean, this is, this is another element of why what she's doing is completely the range. and i think the local cert population, if you were to ask them, honestly, would you be willing to wage a war for independence of our as knowing what you know now, did there the weaker side? because in 1992, when the war started, the server over 95. so the weapon this time around you know it's, it's the back side. it's more are so, i mean, i will be very, very surprised if the people in the are actually want to really want to fight
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a war that they will lose. which, which brings me, brings me back to the point to put that i think this is a suicide move. i go to in many ways, i mean these are you because this crisis will not be reached. ok, unfortunately we have run out of time. i really appreciate you joining us hair on inside story. i think thank you to, i guess may of but of it joe caught up and vote a photo of it and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, l g r a dot com. and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash again, side story. it goes to join the conversation on twitter handle is a james. i story for making vanelle and a whole team here, and they'll have a ah,
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