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i'm dore safari in vienna. iran the okay. france, germany, russia and china have resume talks in the australian capital amy to revive the 2015 joint comprehensive plan of action or the iran you clear deal. the united states is participating indirectly after withdrawing from the agreement 3 years ago. but there is another important party involved in the diplomatic efforts and that's the international atomic energy agency, or i. e. as part of the u. n, the nuclear watchdog has kept dialogue and negotiations ongoing with all parties involved. but as tensions and disagreements on key issues remain unresolved. what would it take for the negotiations? the j. c. p. a way to succeed? and if they fail, what's next? they with us as the director general of the international atomic energy agency, raphael marianna. kirsty talks to al jazeera ah,
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director general of the international atomic energy agency, rafael mariana grossi. thank you for talking to l. just my pleasure. good to see you. what do you think is the role of the a within the united nations and also now within the international community? well, the i e has multiple functions. it is sometimes identified as the nuclear watchdog because we inspect nuclear facilities all over the world to ensure that nuclear material is not they voted for military uses her for hostile uses. and that nuclear weapons are not, you know, developed where they shouldn't be developed. so it has a clear non proliferation as it does call in the jargon nonproliferation activities . but that is not all we all saw. make sure that all the nuclear facilities in the world. and what i mean, luca facilities, hey, will show you good nuclear power plants operate. safely operate securely by setting
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standards, having missions to make sure that these nuclear power plants are okay. and but also on top of that, we have a very important promotional mission when it comes to, for example, nuclear medicine, her report been, or in our family's touch by cancer. and we, we know what radiotherapy means. this is nuclear medicine in action radiotherapy for medical oncology. and we all sort work in water management resources in the protection of for her food, food security, all saw her helping countries are now in the pandemic. for example, by using nuclear techniques to identify or ne, so there is a, there's a whole range of activities above and beyond a nonproliferation or nuclear energy that have to do with development. so it's a vast portfolio. you can see often nuclear power seen as
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a threat globally and to and now nuclear power for civilian use is not always believed to be at the case by some countries. and how do you ensure that all sides a, by, by the rules and conditions set out by your agency? well, by a large or nuclear power, nuclear energy is a very safe her source of energy and has a very good record in terms of security and safety. are very, there are a, just a few countries that have decided to discontinue the use of nuclear energy is boom. more specifically after the acts in japan, she met each in her power plant and some that simply don't use it. the reality is that there are 440 reactors, nuclear reactors at the moment, operating all over the world more than 50 are being built. so this image that nuclear is something that is either rejected or feared is, is not, does not correspond to, to reality. and we, the, i,
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e is essential in providing these assurances because we are setting the standards in, in, in, say to you and the security. we all saw are the, the posse trees off a number of conventions and arrangements and treaties that have to do with the safety and the security of all the spot. and that's what i want to talk about. the non proliferation treaty of 9068, which came into effect and yes 70. how does your organization enforce that treaties, specifically in the signatories that are part of that well indeed indeed, like you say, there's going to be shown a review conference of these very important or treaty the n p t, as it is, as it is called. and it is interesting to note that the treaty itself mentions da, and he'd mentioned the fact that for, for a country, once a country, he saw a party to the treaty, it must enter into an agreement, or what we call technically speaking, a safeguards agreement. but when we say safeguards,
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what we mean is that they will subject their facility stair installations to our inspections. so we can all have from pity. the non proliferation treaty or m p t, as it's now and it was conceived in 1968 and came into effect in 1970. it is an agreement that safeguards countries, nuclear programs. the iranians have been signatories to the deal, even before the revolution and 1979. they say that they have voluntarily been part of the nonproliferation treaty, and this is something that has come up over and over again. they say there are many countries that have nuclear programs that are not part of the m p t. not only that, the renews are part of additional protocols of the non proliferation treaty as a sign of good will in 2015 once the j. c, p o, a was agreed upon and signed. iranians agree, 2 additional protocols under the nonproliferation treaty, and that is something that has not been the case since the u. s. withdrew from the
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deal and 2018. now. iran is a signatory to n p t. yeah. and they have been for a long time and day a well, we're part of the additional protocols which came into effect after their 2015 nuclear deal. as part of that agreement, would you say around nuclear program is one of the most monitors, hurts nuclear programs in the world by your agency. it is, that's a fact because by virtue of a number of her security council resolutions, in particular, one that was adopted a few years ago. 20 to 31. her. it mandated the agency to conduct a number of inspections above the normal type of inspections that any other country would have. the reason is that, of course, in the past there were issues in iran where it were, all the rules were not been followed, so to speak. so the agency was asked to perform this activities and it
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has remained so, so it's a program that is monitored by the agency. in many ways, the talks have resumed here in vienna and the 2 main parties that are at odds with one another. the united states and iran and have new administrations and office, how have the new teams affected the talks because you've been in contact with all sides. and how are they different when you opinion then approve it is no secret that the new government in the stomach republic of iran, i came to power with very firm ideas and their own ideas about these j. c, p. o a the, the, the return to this agreement to of the 2015, which had been around or above more or less left left, set aside, are still there in form, but not in substance. but they said that they, you, of course, wanted to review what had been acted by the previous government and to join the
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discussions with the other partners in the z shapiro. which, as you know, include all the 5 permanent members of the security council, germany, and the, or the nation of the, in her, of the you, of the opinion as a coordinator. and we are the verifying institution, the guarantor, if you want of the whole thing. so are there have been discussions the are? yay, as they said, he's not a part the to the agreement, but is the institution that guarantees it that it's the inspector of the agreement . and so we follow this, these discussions very closely and we know that there are some complexities about it which are being dealt with at the moment as we speak. negotiations are ongoing and all parties are trying to find a convergence which is not easy. give, give it, given this as a dvd of the issues at stake. you've been interacting with her amiens'
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a lot since you took office in 2019. and now iran says a new page has been turned. this was in the media very recently. and you page has been turned with your agency and officials say that there was a delegation that's come to vienna from iran's atomic energy organization. and, and they are going to announce something very soon in coordination with your agency at what have you met them or we are working. there is, are there have been a number of meetings of at different levels i was intern of as you remember a few days ago than a returned. then i, i, i had a meeting with the main nuclear negotiator of mr. peggotty county here in my office . and then we have, or also continued a technical levels. these interactions, this work continues any task finished yet. but this team arrived in vienna cameron's energy organization,
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with the goal of speaking with your agency and announcing something new in their cooperation with your agency. i would say that before we agree on any thing, the idea of an announcement is perhaps a bit premature. we know that time is running out. we have to finish this very soon and finish these very soon. the reason behind my, my, my information here is that the agency and iran are trying to come to an agreement on or, or basic on 2 things. one is the capability or the ability of the agency to return to one facility, one specific facility in iran, where we need to reinstall cameras or that need to be there. and it has been difficult to to this. so we have been talking about these and the other thing is how to address a number of issues which need to be clarified. the agency found traces of
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nuclear material in places that had not been declared before. so white, logically as inspectors. we have been asking around, what is these, why it happened? and we haven't been able to address them at satisfactory. so the idea is now the to have to have an agreement on that. so we can move forward, do trust there any? well, you know, i think that it's not a matter of trusting or not trusting my agencies about verifying we trust everybody, but we very fight everybody at the same time. and this is very simple for me. you've been quoted saying you've been denied indispensable access and iran at what access that is. it that you've been denied. i know it's what i would have just just referring to exactly the the, the capacity to reinstall our cameras. it so so that the monitoring her or active duty will be more comprehensive. that carriage is a workshop. it's technically not
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a nuclear facility. it's not even part of the 19 different places that you monitor regularly to was this part of the extra saying the rain is agree to? yes it is. but that does say something. the fact that not a nuclear facility is perhaps inaccurate description, but it is essential and relevant to the, to the program because it's the place where parts of for the centrifuges, the centrifuges, are these machines were you enriched uranium inside? so they are fabricated. if you want there, so without having an, an idea of what is going there, what is going on there? we would not be in a position to tell the negotiators of the ship you a, what the situation is. so they can have an idea where they are standing and then put in these agreement, the accurate figures in terms of what they want to limit or not. otherwise it's impossible. how long have you had i have had access to catch?
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well, the, the axes or, or the, the, the camera monitoring was interrupted in the month of june. no, but before that, when did you install the cameras, whether the cameras had been agreed they had been there before as part of the j shebaway. but it was agreed that we would continue with these monitoring activities when i visited to round in february. at that point was very important because we could agree that some additional things were important for re run and for the agency to continue. so that we would be able together to continue providing a level of assurance if you wanted terms of information naturally so that people would be reassured that everything was okay. then this element started missing. and when they went in say there was an attack sabotage days. they say so, and of course, any attack or any use of violence is, is, is of course of acceptable but a, but my job is a different job. and of course we,
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we lament these we, we regret this happened. but the important thing, and this is what we have been telling our, our indian counterparts, we to restore this capability, which is in the interest of everybody. the issue of compliance is that the core of the problem theory is have with the international community when it comes to being transparent about their nuclear program, they're in and said they've, they've done everything in their power to open up their nuclear facilities to inspectors. there were a number of workshops in facilities outside the nuclear program. specifically, there is the workshop in carriage outside of town which produces centrifuges. that is something that has not been made available. the cameras at that facility since there was an act of sabotage as the radians called it in june of this year. they then decided to turn off all of the 4 cameras that the i had enough facility because they believe that they in toronto community was not strong enough in
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condemning the attack. did the you and condemn their acts of sabotage. they, i, with the u. n. a has been dealing with this in general manner, but not through a resolution of the security council or anywhere else. in any case, it's another institution. natalie. how does your level of access or in around compare to other nuclear power countries? well i g, the level of access is irregular. we have places where we are and we should be there and continue to be there at, at the same time. like in the case of class, there are places where we firmly believe we should be and we're not. so it has a good point and areas where we need to improve. do you still have access to parking? when we this is not a place we inspect regularly. you did you ever inspect parking it? it was part of a past activity in terms of our presence forties picked us. yes. nuclear
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contamination or nuclear traces it. does it actually mean that nuclear work to place there? do you inspect every report of nuclear contamination, global? well, yes, her countries declare their activities. they declare their activities. and normally you only find traces of nuclear material in the places where they declare the problem. in this case was that we found traces of nuclear material embraces that had not been previously declared. so the logical thing before jumping to a conclusion. this is what we do. we have a sequential, very professional work. we put the questions, we say we found this. what explanation can you give us about about this, and we've been, you know, going back and forth on this type of it is possible to have contamination somewhere that came from another location. now, it's not impossible, but again, this is part of a and an, an interaction. you get an explanation. so our experts will look at that
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explanation and see whether he's credible or not a do you have all the cameras and detectors at not hands and forego that air, detect diversion in a timely manner that you need to use on these places. we, we are able to work. so there is no issues in the main enrichment facilities in atlanta, not, not at the moment. they hope there will be usaa saying they want to call and emergency session at the board of governors of the a year before the years and to discuss iran's non compliance or at the difficulties that you face. doing your job with iran. would you support such a move? well, i, i neither support nor condemned. i mean these are this issues, but that countries need to need to make they, according to their own judgment of the situation. they will decide whether they feel that the board of governors should should meet again. and what's the process that will come after that level is williams. and he will depend on the kind of
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deliberations that the, that the board i will have. it could be a simply a deliberately, a session that they may wish to consider a solution or not. is really as a director general, i'm supposed to be at a young, completely neutral on this. once than you, as president, donald trump withdrew from the nuclear deal in may of 2018, saying there was no longer a good deal for the americans. then this series of sanctions that followed have been something there. a news haven't seen for a very long time. the oil fails of iran, where a sanction as was the major major banking systems in the country. which means that the international community could long no longer purchase oil from what was then opec's, 4th largest producer of oil in the international community. here in, in said this is tantamount to economic terrorism. and they started to reduce their commitment to the j. c. p. o. which was an agreement that took 8 years of diplomacy and 2 years of negotiations according to then foreign minister. and how much of
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odds are if this was the point the radians have. now this is the sticking point. they say they need your sanctions lifted before they will return to for compliance . and under that deal, under the j. c. p. o, a iran is allowed to win rich up to levels of 3.67 percent. they are not allowed to have more than 300 kilograms of that enrich uranium inside the country, as well as a certain amount of heavy water. what the deal struck was that the other communities and friends of iran like russia, they were purchasing excess amounts of enriched uranium and heavy water to ensure iran was in compliance with the j. c. p. o. it took 10 years about 10 years to get the j. c, p o, a signed, and it took the u. s. over a year to get out of it. the site that's not good for them. what is the timeline now for all the parties involved in your opinion? and to decide if disagreement can be revived or not? i don't think you have a pre established her date line or the or,
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or timeline or what i know is what i hear from the protagonists. and for everybody i think her time is ending out. if you cannot have years of for a consideration, whether you go back to an agreement which was legal shaded for many years, it's either you go back to it or not. now that is a good technical work and to promote the work, which is which is ongoing. and let's, let's see what, what the final outcome of this. what happens if they cannot resolve their issues and they jessie pill? is that what's next for your agency and your work with her on? well, at that point we will have to evaluate, of course, we will have, we have a permanent relationship with iran, based on the comprehensive safeguards agreement, which is air, which is there. but it is obvious that the program has grown a lot and that activities are taking place in many places that they are and reaching uranium at 60 percent. they are doing it very fast. so we have to sit down
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with the run and reassess the situation. but let's not speculate, let's wait and see and see if there is an agreement. is there a civilian use for that high level of enriched uranium? theoretically, there is a, but of course when you look at and it's not for me to say you have the right or not . this is also very important how the treaty and the nonproliferation of nuclear weapons says the countries can have her activities in the peaceful realm provided they subject these activities to inspections in the right way. so it is obvious that when you in reach at 60 percent, this is a very, very high level, it's very close to weapon grade level. so ah, my idea is that when you have this level of ambition, in terms of your nuclear activities, you must accept also a high degree of his spectrum. do you think an iran could make and
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nuclear weapon when less than a month? we don't have any information in this direction, so i would like to get into language that may be construed or something like that. what we say is that the amount of material are growing that this is material at very high level. and of course, this is something that has to be looked at with a lot of care. finally, everyone's concerned about her on and the threats they post. can you understand their position and the threat they feel from other countries in the region? what nearly ins, israel they've, israel has said recently, they're going to rehearse drills to attack the nuclear, the 6 nuclear facilities. and what is your understanding if there was a strike on a nuclear facility? does that completely get rid of it? or does it it? what other with the technical parts of it, can israel strike iran's nuclear sites and that nuclear program will just be
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stopped? i'm the director general of the a year. i'm a diplomat. i'm a man of peace, speculating about the possibility of attacks on a nuclear facilities is something that i would prefer not to do. i really hope. and it's not a matter of wishing wishes. i think we have a very hard work to do myself. he ran the j. c p. o, a partners to provide the necessary stability and calm and, and reflection before anything happens that we will all regret. are you speaking to israeli officials as well as i speak to everybody? i speak to all involved countries and i'm talking to everybody. yes, it's part of my job and your hope for then for the future i must be and i'm doing everything possible to make sure that as i just said, that things will continue in a stable way and that we will not go back to the path of violence and war,
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