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hm. ah, i answer the okay to day on the stream or hinder refugees versus facebook. the media giant is being seen for a $150000000000.00 for providing a platform that spread hate speech and violence in miramar. we will dig deeper into the lore seat and what it may will mean for the way that facebook operates around the world. let's meet, i guess he will help us do that. hello to you to kane, jason sophie. so nice to have all 3 of you with us on the street today. tom king, please introduce yourself to our stream audience. i'm 20 and i marrow hunger. i was
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born and brought up west and bought obama. are kind of state i left from our country. when i was about 17, we found that i found out by miss were involved in a position you gay with other ruin. guess in london, we are at bo gating, for the rights of ruin. go to and ruin good general site for the justice of the rowing to empower and rebuild their general sights of a bar where we have about 1000000 rominger general sites. somebody was in bundle under strategic plans. thank you for joining us thinking hello, jason. nice to have you part of our show, please introduce yourself to our international audience. i will, i'm a partner at mchugh, jewelry, and i would bring in the case with mr. andrea, another law firm in london. and we're very proud to represent survivors of the written good genocide such as 10 and the people he supports. thank you so much for being part of the show and hello. so cathy is things at completely different angle to this conversation, but it's
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a very important one. please introduce yourself to an international audience. hi, everyone. am sophia? i used to work at facebook. i became a whistleblower at half a year ago in a pro i at facebook, i spent my spare time catching foreign national governments who are you who are using fake accounts to mislead and repress their citizen ident, with chris on the arm miano. but i am here to provide context based on my knowledge at facebook and the richard the best to the wrecking your people in the lawsuit and to oh, the people of me ammo in the struggle against the repressive military regime. i say thank you for bringing your inside and knowledge. if you have questions for any of our guests now it's a time to ask them. if you're a new chief, jumping to the comment section, be part of today's program. jason, i'm going to start on my laptop, but this seems like an all day. shes claim we're hinge our facebook claim. lawyers representing the ringer, people around the world, including those living refugee camps in bangladesh, have launched, coordinated legal actions against facebook,
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public charges by the me and my regime and extremist dividends against a hang up people. this is a huge loss and how did it get started, jason? um, well, a number of years ago we came across by my team came across the the fact that hate speech was being gar, perfect, perpetuated and amplified through the algorithms and the dope. amine like structures or whatever it is on facebook and twitter, and this was causing harm to the ringer and being simple lawyers. we looked at this and said they must be buried, made accountable. there was clearly a wrong being done not wrong was that they didn't have enough moderators dealing with this situation. and they had an algorithm that perpetuated hate speech at some king. this is something that you, i've been campaigning about for a very long time. in fact, on the stream out as here,
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we've covered some of the atrocities that happened to the re hang up people. so george, does this lawsuit do in terms of that campaigning? how does it crystallize it? one thing is for us, we need to look at, you know, rowing go genocide. and during genocide their facebook played a key role, you know, has spread in hate a speech. and as a whole, vermin, a country is spread up and many figures military leaders are, they were through facebook as spread in just got rid of them at some innate them and kill them all. and these are callas, they are trained to invade our land, we can not accept their full doors. what military perpetrated these are justifying, and a lot of a missing formation. you know, through facebook that really encouraged military to kill thousands of ruling a lives. and we have seen we,
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we can see to day 1000000 people on the wall. i just reviewed you coming the wall in bangladesh, about 1000000 ruined good. general survivors in, in a camps and thousands of rominger were slaughtered and, you know, thousands of rowing women when raved by the, by miss military, those are all justified just in facebook page in air, you know, pages just get rid of them. we don't want to see these raise in our country. they not belong to us. so is really, really encouraged and justification to the military ethic in a country. so we are human being as i am rominger, i brought up in our kind of state, you know, i have seen growing a general such survey but what they suffer. and so we really need justice. what fade will contribute at hey, to speed through the platform, a big giant tab, and they should not allow these. and so our point is essaro ingo. we want justice, we really want to see facebook responsiblity and we want to see what facebook will
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do about it. so we really want to get also to rebuild our community compensation justice and as a big tech company, this should not allowed this happen to any community in the war. you know, we suffer, we enough, you know, is already we lost everything. our lance brian already are more than $380.00 religious bundle. can imagine the all was a 2 person population flat from a country where we belong to, where i wanted to learn our country. balmy's military got rid of us. so this is very important for the junk and i, we, we, he, so clearly here is it's like, where is the justice? so this, perhaps this class lossy may be, this is where the justice is. sophie, i am gonna re, re, re, re, excuse me, re enact you with a fellow facebook whistleblower, called francis hogan,
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who testified in front of congress. and it appears to me that facebook as huge as it is as huge as a global company is, does not have the culture to understand the world. he's francis. and i've really loved me to talk about that. does facebook, is it a quit to manage all of the different countries that he has facebook appearing? let's take a look at frances, what she has to say for us. as our facebook repeatedly encounter conflicts between its own profit and our safety. facebook consistently resolve these conflicts in favor of its own prophets. the result has been more to vision, more harm, more lies, more threads, and more combat. in some cases, this is this dangerous online talk has led to actual violence that harms and even kelsey of all apps. absolutely. so one thing wanted say 1st is that facebook is the company,
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it's going to make money. facebook said that it's fine to handle these problems, but we dont trust vendor maurice tobacco companies when they say that they are trying to and sick read addiction. we don't see trusting fossil fuel companies like exxon mobil when they'd say that you're trying to and could opal warming at the end of the day, facebook if the company and to the and to the extent a curse about this matter it's, it's because of public attention which is very limited resource in countries like me, ammo. the activity and amy ama is not new 33 years ago the united nations fact finding mission the they said that facebook played a determining row in the miami genocide. facebook has apologized for its actions repeatedly, but it has failed to take action because at the end of the lease, because the company and there is no profit in stop in genocide for them. this jason? no, i wanted to say i think soap is just told it is it is and,
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and you know, what we're dealing here with facebook is a monopolistic juggernaut which is out of control running through our cultural streets. and they seem to feel that they can move around this world with impunity using st. carefully crafted structures to avoid liability. and it's got to stop these things have to change, they have to change. we can't allow of the people like the rang it to go through what the ringer of gone through. and right now we've got these same issues that soap is just talking about here, going on in ethiopia and against the t. great. it's got to stop. i'm wondering about that the challenge of identifying hate speech online, tin kin. it's easy for an algorithm to spot certain things like nudity, for instance, or indecency that, that those things are quite easy to spot. but you,
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you need to have language skills in order to spot hate speech. exactly, that's what i want to point out here when facebook entered to burma, they did not hire enough boundaries and rowing gears and others who understand about political contacts or burma. that's really, you know, that's the route that's created becomes was also the whole society. so until i think as far as i know that mother kobuck here in come into the senate, they didn't hire enough. even now i don't think they're there for not only about a 100 over, so had about 50, maybe 50 or maybe 50 local language experts. but initially, when some of the worst atrocities were happening, they had no bernie speakers and limited share this conversation with sophie sophie . what did you want to add? go ahead. absolutely. and so it which these sorts of questions, most people immediately jump to the at some the assumption at content moderation.
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it's what causes this, that the problem is he to speech is that it has been said. but conspiracy theories and hate for speech have always existed the jewish people. i sat thee for monday, with that light book that has been spilt of its sent the centuries 60 years ago. a common conspiracy theory in the united states was a fluoride in water. was a communist plot to mind, control people, the difference today. it's not that these conspiracy theories of these hate speech is been st. louis been spoken and written. it's that it, it's been spread and distributed before in the past. if someone wanted to get attention, they needed to ghost rekey gatekeepers. whether that was major in newspapers or, or, or meat or other media out that's or even trusted into which was in it's manu that more rural country. but facebook has short circuited it. that it, it to the take my round at he and, and freedom of distribution and for granted these states. but this is extremely new
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and a typical and the road is still grappling bits, its effects and, and, and the consequences of it are numerous by the, among the rocking out people in me, armor by them, by the amman, by the romance, those killed by ethnic violence in serena, anchor blue among the co miniatures, lynched to that space. what by ro, roommates, and in india be taken for granted. but to me this is not a question of content moderation. this is the content of content distribution. the ruin has the right to freedom of speech, but no one has the right to be to be heard to, to be distributed. audit alter the right, does not have a responsibility to broadcast every single person to it and to the entire world. and, but facebook had struck to so could at this and made it extremely easy. okay. it is bringing jason debt and i want to show you something, i'm sure you're aware of this matter. it is now that the big company that facebook is known as on my laptop here,
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are dating. it's ethiopian audience on the long standing work to protect people in ethiopia. so in ethiopia right now, there is a civil or i'm going to call your civil war, civil conflict. um and the various different groups are sometimes use social media in order to share their thoughts, their opinions, talk back and forth with each other. so facebook here is saying, this is what we're doing to manage this to q rate this. but we also heard from a journalist who said that what facebook is doing is not enough. i really want to get your thoughts about the tentative action the facebook is, is making right now. and if it's connected to your lawsuit, whistler, his lucy festival, in may. just one day after i published one of my articles, prominent pro government was 200000 followers. posted my photo and called for my
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read. the post was like by a $1000.00 and had one college of comments which include german, god, there. i should be older found to shoot me. and there were many more holy comments. it took 6 months for the dream, and only after the case was mentioned, doing an article by where the news about facebook. i can't imagine what could happen to me if i were in the country. the time jason thought my, my thought saw is that i didn't think as a society, we can believe a word that corporate, like facebook says, they've known about what was going on beneath the ip, they should have been on it before it even occurred. if you look at our action we issued last week, the day after we issued facebook made
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a big announcement that it was taking down military regime accounts in my mall. why was that not done in 2014, immediately, when they were aware of it from the media room from when n g i got in touch with them. they didn't do it to stop doing it in any serious way until they got to the senate hearings. when they grade the fallen fall short danco and stop do mold in an apology to the rancor. did they start realizing that they had corporate responsibility and should be being accountable now? so now what's the next one? and this is what this case is about. this is what turn came in the survivors want to do. it's not just the case, but then it's not just about reparations and justice for them. it's about stopping this way. would company from creating harm to people all over the world who was honorable? to get my house mutual comments. i want to share with you jason. this will i'm going to put straight to you some push back to what you're saying here. facebook is
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not the united nations exclamation mark. you would say what that viewer, it's certainly not the united nations. and if it was the united nations, it would have been the united nations would have been terminated long ago. thanks. but has understand about corporate responsibility. it has to understand that it's not just about monopolies and making money. they have an effect on society and where they cross that line. the law will find them liable, and they got to be brought to him to kin and sophie, i'm going to put both to you and you can split this question. jesse wanders, would it be a good idea for facebook to establish regional offices to focus on regents so that they actually understood the culture, the language of these regional offices. sophie, you go 1st briefly, would that be partially a solution? so facebook already hats, reach an offices, for instance in south east asia,
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for instance, in south asia, these regional office that are focused and, and working with stakeholders and the power players rather than the people in those regions. so unfortunately you idea it's already in place and i'm not sure that it's very helpful because it's fuck, it's focused on essentially robin rather than having her. right. so they're not acting as cultural ambassadors. it's, it's really take maybe get facebook to spread into more places. i'm thinking regional office is megan different kind of regional office with that her. i totally agree with the so feed they have already. i thing, as far as i know, there is an office in singapore and we, we are, are we, we are here in there are some people there, the hired at lee or i don't know exactly about 100 but is too late to be honest. but it's not even enough. you are open in regional office. if you don't really take down when i want people, we lost our lives. we lost,
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we lost many lives. we lost everything. you know, our people already in bangladesh, if you'd, you camps 1000000 people, you know, they are living in a squalid condition. not getting proper foot, not getting proper medical treatment, not getting proper ended wish. and so a whole, a generation, a whole adult, the community of all generation grown without any we sion and not proper food. and so that we men misery. we are a scene to a, you know, in bangladesh, a food you can, so odd to be honest, is quite late, even though they open it is not really i don't thing is really walk in up until you don't taken down the facebook pause, which are hate her speech and you got him, i did, does this and have motion, you know, like after we've wide or for the rowing of the we find the case and the next did they take and our military where they have gone. you know, last in the last, 0670,
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yes. you know, military commander in chief criminal going leader, me online. as said this is unfinished business. we might have been read of them. 19142 of unfinished business. so dis, things are and courage didn't, didn't really take, i'm just going to share your set service. that last part of the conversation with safety named jason sophie, go ahead. why does it take so long for the house to come down? i think that fundament, i think that fundamentally facebook tests and have is facebook doesn't have a reason to care about this. you could hire everyone in the road to, to accompany, but that won't change anything if they aren't given that the bay and power to actually fix within their company like facebook i, myself and many others tried very hard to fix it. i caught people red handed with no question of their guilt, and it still took more more than a year to take them down in the case of the dictated why, why to have had to laugh at me. so for what was like did not care. because it is like, here's the shock because they had the at, i mean,
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suppose that suppose you could, how a tobacco company we figured out how to fix. we figured out how to, how to stop when priestly from getting done cancer. as a result of cigarette smoke in the tobacco company has no reason to have a division that than that prevents people from getting down cancer. they don't, they don't want people to get non cancer per se, but the accepted as a cost of doing business and they have no reason to stop it. i think literacy, facebook campus seminar, let me just tap into what jason was like. i had jason, i just wanted to say that on this program, it turned on sophia, the real heroes. her, an, an, an sophie, i have a question for you. and it's this, this debate, particularly with the ringer, is a matter of legitimate public interest. we have written to facebook and asked them to waive their randy a's and silencing of contracts against employees. do you, do you feel this people inside facebook who don't feel this is right and would want
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to speak out it's a certainly believed that they are people with him, facebook who, who feel it, who feel difficult about the situation with that said i dont know. i dont know who sat in the most people are most concerned about the young pers no countries, most employees in facebook are for instance americans i or india or indians on each one, b, b sense, oh cetera. and the net and the naturally most concerned with the on country. i'm a bit of the odd person out because and when the american who came forward about countries like on the recent icer page on that they know that if not, reset stepped foot in. but i would certainly believe that for instance, some of the contract, we're curious, we am with him me, m o who are from many was though could language and presumably have affinity with that country with which the country would be willing to speak out. but they dont but i dont know. oh oh oh, i mean ultimate, the, this is a situation that has been that has been known for years. it was,
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it was in the spring that took 2018 when the united nations font facebook to have it put humanly in row in the ongoing genocide and automate the face because no reason to change it without the pressure. let me just share something with you, tongue king. so there's says a lot of very pointy thoughts on twitter about facebook. so people were responding to this program, knowing that i was going to have you and jason anders sophie on the shows. i have a look care on my lap top. facebook is the platform that is cause maximum disruption of social order to outright facilitate of genocide. india is mentioned as an example of another area where facebook provides free basics and, and then, and then there's some, some consequences to that. ah, the juicy says this lawsuit is reactionary, should have stopped a long time ago. and pools dodgy account says why, what they banned already is
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a $150000000000.00 lawsuit. if you are successful, where will the money go? one thing as far as what we are considering, we as 0 hunger. as i mentioned earlier, 1000000 euro hunger, general side survivors in bangladesh, which would you camps and also militia, thailand, india, many people have fled from the country because of general sight even until today, 600000 rockingham, the alexa are actually ongoing genocide. so this is very important to rebuild the community, what they have, laws we, you can see as i mentioned, they are a kind of human misery. how the situation in bangladesh, if you camps, we really want to see our, our brothers and sister throwing up who are in camps. they must get compensation and they, we want to build the future integration medical care. and you know,
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we want a, hopefully we can go back our native land. when we go back our native land, we can rebuild our community and you know, that is very important. bomb means government is trying to destroy us intentionally . so this is very important here. we want to rebuild our community. we are a people, we have our land, our culture in our civilization. so we are not like her. you know, we really want to see something to move forward for the general setup i. but that is our focus. main. nathaniel sent up my boss, they really need support the what facebook a big tech company they include one, thank you so much by making a point so very clearly and we really appreciate you what will happen to this no st . let's keep up to date with a have a look here on my laptop. you can follow to king. i know he will be posting about
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