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of west side story in the best comedy or musical category. without a broadcast or for its awards ceremony, it's unclear how influential lease choices will be on the all important oscar awards that follow in march. and whether the golden globes itself will survive. rob reynolds al jazeera hollywood. ah, let's take a look at some of the headlines here now jazeera now, british prime minister bars johnson has announce, wants believes to be the world 1st confirmed death from the alma khan variance of cove. it's 19 cases a spreading with alarming speed across the u. k. it's expected to be london dominant strain within 48 hours. it's been an under the earthquake off indonesia, the magnitude $7.00 quake has triggered synonymy warnings in the region. it
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happened a florida, se island in the east of the country. the trema was shallow us secretary of state, anthony blink and says the in the pacific region needs to be free of coalition for decade is on the top of southeast asia to counter china's influence. more than $5000000000.00, we all have a stake in ensuring that the world's most dynamic region is free from origin and accessible to all. that's why there's so much concern from northeast asia, the southeast asia, and from the meek, on river to the pacific islands. about asians aggressive actions claiming open seas as their own. the starting open markets through subsidies to its state run companies denying the export. so revoking deals for countries as policies. it does not agree with engaging in illegal and reported and unregulated fishing activities . countries across the region what this behavior to change. we do to us defense secretary lloyd austin,
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has decided against punishing military personnel involved in a drug strike that killed 10 civilians in afghanistan and investigation found the strike did not violate the laws of war, but mistakes were made. the congressional committee investigating the january 6 capitol hill riots is voted to hold former white house, chief of staff, mark my, those in contempt. the vote was unanimous, both must still be approved by the full house of representatives. the governor of the state of kentucky says at least 74 people there have been killed by friday, series of tornadoes, another 109 people are still missing the powerful storms tool through his state and 5 others. the president will visit kentucky on wednesday. it's the stream. next, stay with us here on al jazeera, the listening post cuts through the noise. you are talking about competing artists . they see monday tools being used to perpetuate there's competing narrative
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separating spin from fuck all 3 versions of the story and some element of the truth . but the full story remains and computer unpacking the stories you're being told. it's not a science story at all. it's a story about politics, the listening post your guide to the media. on a jesse, you know, i, i answer the ok to day on the stream or hinder refugees versus facebook. the media giant is being seen for a $150000000000.00 for providing a platform that spread hate speech and violence in miramar. we will dig deeper into the law st. and what it may will mean for the way that facebook operates around the world. let me, i guess he will help. i see that. hello t, tim came jason so facing nice to have all 3 of you with us on the stream to day and
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king please introduce yourself to our stream audience. i'm to again, i'm aero hunger. i was born and brought up western about obama are kind of state i love from our country. when i was about 17, we found that i found out by miss were involved in a position you gay with other ruin guessing. london, we are at bcg rating for the rights of ruin. go to and ruined good genocide for the justice of the routine go to empower and rebuild their general side. so by bar where we have about 1000000 rominger general sites of ibis in bangladesh, refugee camps, thank you for joining us, tim king. hello, jason. nice to have you part of our show, please introduce yourself to our international audience. hi, i will. i am a partner at mckee, jewelry, and i will bring in the case with mr. andrea, another law firm in london. and we're very proud to represent a survivors of the ruin good genocide such as 10 and the people he supports. thank
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you so much for being part of the show and hello sophie. this things add completely different angle to this conversation, but it's a very important one. please introduce yourself to an international audience. hi everyone. m sophie. i used to work at facebook. i became a whistleblower that half a year ago in a pro and i at facebook i spent my spare time catching for in that know governments who are you who are using fake accounts to mislead and repress their citizen ident wordpress on the army imo. but i am here to provide context based on my knowledge at facebook and the which of the best to the writing your people in the lawsuit and to all the people have miano in the struggle against the repressive military regime . i say thank you for bringing your inside and knowledge if you have questions for any of our guest now at a time to ask them if you're a new chief, jumping to the comment section, be part of today's program. jason, i'm going to start on my laptop, but this seems like an all day. shes claim we're hing our facebook claim. lawyers
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representing the ringer, people around the world. closing those living in refugee camps in bangladesh have launched a coordinated legal actions against facebook. public id by the me and my regime and extremist dividends against the re hang at people. this is a huge lawsuit. how did it get started, jason? well, a number of years ago we came across by my team came across the fact that hate speech was being gar, perfect at actuated and amplified through the algorithms and the dopamine like structures or whatever it is on facebook and twitter. and this was causing harm to the ringer and being simple lawyers. we looked at this and said they must be buried, made accountable. there was clearly a wrong being done. not wrong, was that they didn't have enough moderators dealing with this situation. and they had an algorithm that perpetuated hate speech. at some point,
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this is something that you, i've been complaining about for very long time. in fact, on the stream out here, we've covered some of the atrocities that happened to the re hang up people. so joe, does this last scene do in terms of that campaigning? how does it, kristen? i think one thing is was we need to look at, you know, 0 hunger general side. and during general side, their facebook played a key role. you know how spread in hate as speech and as a whole vermin a country is a spread up and many figures military leaders are. they were through facebook as spread in just got rid of them at some innate them and kill them all. and these are colors, they are trained to invade our land, we can not accept their full doors. what military perpetrated these are justified, and a lot of a missing formation, you know,
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through facebook that really encourage military to kill thousands of rolling a lives. and we have c and we, we can see to day 1000000 people on the wall. i just reviewed you coming the wall in bangladesh, about 1000000 ruined good. general survivors in, in a camps and thousands of rominger were slaughtered. and, you know, thousands of rowing women been raped by the by miss military. those are all justified just in facebook page here. you know, pages just get rid of them. we don't want to see these raise in our country. they're not belongs to us. so is really, really encouraged and justification to the military as a, in a country. so we are human being as i am romania i brought up in our kind of state, you know, i have seen growing a general such survey but what they suffer. and so we really need justice, what feeds book contribute at hey, to speak through the platform, a big giant tab,
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and they should not allow these. and so our point is essaro ingo. we want justice, we really want to see facebook responsibility. and we want to see what facebook will do about it. so we really want to get also to rebuild our community compensation justice and as a big tech company, they should now allow, this happened to any community in the war. you know, we suffer, we enough, you know, is already we lost everything. our lance, when already of more than $380.00 religious bundle. can you imagine the all laws, a 2 person populations select from a country where we belong to, where i wanted to lead our country balmy's military got rid of us. so this is very important for the junk and i, we, we hear you. so clearly here is it's like, where is the justice? so this, perhaps this class lawsuit may be, this is where the justice is. sophie,
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i'm gonna re reading and re, excuse me, re enact you with a fellow facebook whistleblower, called francis hogan, who testified in front of congress. and it appears to me that facebook as huge as a, is a student, a global company, is, does not have the culture to understand the world. he's francis. and i'd really love you to talk about that. does facebook is he equipped to manage all of the different countries that he has facebook appearing in? let's take a look at francis. what she has to say. first, i saw facebook repeatedly encounter conflicts between its own profit and our safety . facebook consistently resolve these conflicts in favor of its own profits. the result has been more division, more harm, more lies, more threads, and more combat. in some cases, this is a, this dangerous online talk has led to actual violence that harms and even kills
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people. apps absolutely. so one thing wanted say, 1st it's at facebook, it's the company, it's going to make money. facebook said that it's trying to handle these problems, but we dont trust vent up morris tobacco companies when they say that they are trying to and sick read addiction. we don't see trust fossil fuel companies like exxon mobil, when they'd say that you're trying to and could open warming at the end of the day . facebook, if the company and to the and to the extent a curse about this matter it's, it's because of public attention bitches. over in amity, ted resource in countries like me, ammo. the activity and amy ama is not new 33 years ago. the united nations fact finding mission the they said that facebook played a determining ro in that me and my genocide facebook has apologized for its actions repeatedly, but it has failed to take action because at the end of the facebook as a company, and there is no profit in stop in genocide for them. they
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say say, no, i was and i wanted to say i think soap is just told it is it is. and you know, what we're dealing here with facebook is a monopolistic juggernaut which is out of control running through our cultural streets. and they seem to feel that they can move around this world with impunity using st. carefully crafted structures to avoid liability. and it's got to stop these things have to change, they have to change. we can't allow the people like the rang it to go through what the ringer are gone through. and right now we've got these same issues that soap is just talking about here. going on in ethiopia and against the t grey. it's got to stop. i'm wondering about that. the challenge of identifying hate speech online, tin kin. it's easy for an algorithm to spot certain things like nudity,
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for instance, or indecency, that those things are quite easy to scott. but you are, you need to have language skills in order to spot hate speech. exactly, that's what i want to point out here when facebook entered to burma, they did not hire enough boundaries and rowing gears and others who understand about political context or burma that's really, you know, that's the route that created becomes, was also so the whole society. so, until i thing, as far as i know, that mother go back here in come into the senate, they didn't hire enough. even now i don't think they're there for not only about a 100 over, so had about 50, maybe 50 or maybe 50 local language experts. but initially, when some of the worst atrocities were happening, they had no bernie speakers. and let me just share this conversation with sophie
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sophie, what did you wanna add? go ahead. absolutely. and so it which these sorts of questions must people immediately jump to that something the assumption that content moderation, it's what causes this, that the problem is he to speech is that it has been said. but conspiracy theories and hate for speech have always existed. the jewish people i sat, the familiar with that label that has been spilt over, sent the centuries 60 years ago. a common conspiracy theory in the united states was a fluoride in water, was the communist plot to mind control people, the difference today. it's not that these conspiracy theories that these hate speech is been st. louis been spoken and written. it's that it's been spread and distributed before in the past. if someone wanted to get attention they needed to close rekey gatekeepers. whether that was major in newspapers or, or, or made or other media out that's or even trusted into which was in it's manu that more rural country. but facebook has short circuited it. that it, it, they take my,
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ran at he and, and freedom of distribution for granted the states. but this is extremely new, and a typical and the road is still grappling with its effects and, and, and the consequences of it are numerous by the, among the rocking up people in me, amor by them, by the amman, by the amounts those killed by ethnic violence in serene anchor blue among the alcove, miniatures, minced to that space. what by ro, roommates, and in india be taken for granted. but to me this is not a question of content moderation. this is the content of content distribution. the ruin has the right to freedom of speech, but no one has the right to be to be heard to, to be distributed, alter the right, does not have a responsibility to broadcast every single person to the entire world. and, but facebook had struck to so could at this and made it extremely easy. okay,
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let me just bring and jason, jason, i want to show you something. i'm sure you're aware of this matter, which is now that the big company that facebook is known as on my laptop here are dating it's ethiopian audience on the long standing work to protect people in ethiopia. so in ethiopia right now, there is a civil or i'm going to call your civil war, civil conflict. um and the various different groups are sometimes use social media in order to share their thoughts, their opinions, talk back and forth with each other. so facebook here is saying, this is what we're doing to manage this decay rate this. but we also heard from a journalist who said that what facebook is doing is not enough. i really want to get your thoughts about the tentative action that facebook is, is making right now. and if it's connected to your loss, it has like his lucy festival. it may just one day after it published one of my
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articles, prominent pro government was 200000 followers, posted my photo and called for my arrest. the post was like by a $100000.00 and had won college and comments which include general god, there. i should be older found to shoot me and there were many more holy comments. it took 6 months for the dream and only after the case was mentioned, doing an article by didn't use about facebook. i can't imagine what could happen to me if i were in the country. the time jason thought my, my thought saw is that i didn't think as a society, we can believe the word that a corporate, like facebook says, they've known about what was going on beneath the ip, they should have been on it before it even occurred. if you look at our action we
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issued last week, the day after we issued facebook made a big announcement that it was taking down military regime accounts in my mall. why was that not done in 2040 immediately when they were aware of it from the media room from when n g i got in touch with them. they didn't do it to stop doing good any serious way until they got to the senate hearings. when they grade the fallen fall short. did the day go and start do more than an apologies to the ranger did. they start realizing that they had corporate responsibility and should be being accountable now. so now it's the next woman. this is what this case is about. this is what tung canaan the survivors want to do. it's not just a case for them. it's not just about reparations. a justice for them, it's about stopping this way. would company from creating harm to people all over the world who are vulnerable? so guess i have some mutual comments i want to share with you jason. this one i'm
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going to put straight to you. some push back to what you're saying here. facebook is not the united nations affirmation mark. you would say what to that feeler. it's certainly not the united nations that if it was the united nations, it would have been earth united nations would have been terminated long ago on facebook. hastur understand about corporate responsibility. it has to understand that it's not just about monopolies and making money. they have an effect on society where they cross that line. the law will find them liable, and they've got to be brought to hill til kin. and sophie, i'm going to put a spoke to you and you can split this question. jesse wanders, would it be a good idea for facebook to establish regional offices to focus on regions so that they actually understood the culture, the language of these regional offices. so for you guys 1st briefly, what that is partially a solution. so facebook already hats reach no offices,
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for instance, in southeast asia, for instance, in south asia, these regional offices are focused and, and working with stakeholders and the power players rather than the people in those regions. so unfortunately you idea it's already in place and i'm not sure that it's very helpful because it's fuck, it's focused on essentially robin rather than having her. so they're not acting as cultural ambassadors. it's, it's really take maybe get facebook to spread into more places and thinking regional office is megan different kind of regional office with that her. i totally agree with the sophia. they have already. i'd thing, as far as i know, there is an office in singapore and we, we are, are we, we are hearing there are some people there they hired at lee or i don't know exactly about 100, but it's too late to be honest. but it's not even enough. you are open in
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regional office. if you don't really take down when i want people, we lost our lives. we lost, we lost many lives. we lost everything. you know, our people already in bangladesh, if you'd, you camps 1000000 people, you know, they are living in a squalid condition. not getting proper food, not getting proper medical treatment, not getting proper added wish. and so a whole, a generation, a whole adult, the community of all generation grown without any we share and not proposals. and so that we men misery. we are a scene to a, you know, in bangladesh, you food, you can so odd to be honest, is quite late, even though they open it is not really i don't thing is really walk in up until you don't taken down the facebook pause, which are hate her speech and you got him? i did just yes and have motion, you know like after we've wide or for the rowing of the we find the case. the dogs
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did they take and o military where they have gone uno last in the last. 0670 years, you know, military commander in chief, criminal, gang leader, me online. as said this is unfinished business. we might have been read of the 19142 of unfinished business. so these things are encouraging. didn't, didn't really, to how i am just going to share yet at service. that last part of the conversation with sophia and jason, sophie, go ahead. why does it take so long for the house to come down? i think that fundament, i think that fundamentally facebook doesn't have is facebook doesn't have a reason to care about this. you could hire everyone in the road to, to accompany, but that won't change anything if they aren't given that the bay and power to actually fix within the company like facebook, i, myself and many others tried very hard to fix it. i caught people red handed with no question of their guilt, and it still took more more than a year to take them down. in the case of the dictated why, why to have had to go find me. something about leslie did not care because it is i
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here is the shock because they had the at, i mean, suppose that suppose you could, how a tobacco company, we figured out how to fix. we figured out how to, how to stop when priestly from getting down cancer. as a result of cigarette smoke in the tobacco company has no reason to have a division that than that prevents people from getting down cancer. they don't, they don't want people to get non cancer per se, but the accept it as a cost of doing business and they have no reason to stop it. i think literacy, facebook campus seminar, let me just tap into what jason was like. i had jason. i just wanted to say that on this program it ton and sophia, the real heroes here. i'm an aunt sophie. i have a question for you. and it's this, this debate, particularly with the ringer, is a matter of legitimate public interest. we've written to facebook and asked them to waive their randy a's own silencing of contracts against employees. do you,
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do you feel this people inside facebook who don't feel this is right and would want to speak out? it's a certainly believe that there are people within facebook who, who feel it, who feel difficult about the situation with that said i dont know. i dont know who certainly most people are most concerned about their own personal countries. most employees in facebook are, for instance, americans, i or india, or indians on each one, b, b science or, or it cetera and their net and the naturally most concerned to its own country. i'm a bit of the odd person out because and when the american who came forward about countries like on dearest st oser page on that, they know that if not, reset stepped foot in but they would suit and they believe that for instance, some of the contract workers we am with him, we are mo, who are familiar with that though could anchorage and presumably have affinity with that country with the brits the country would be willing to speak out but they dont but they dont know. oh, oh, i mean ultimate, the, this is
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a situation that has been, that has been on for years. it was, it was in the spring that took 2018 when the united nations font facebook to have the put him in the row in the ongoing genocide. and ultimately, if it's because no reason to change it without pressure, or let me just share something with you tom king. so there's, there's a lot of, um, a very pointy thoughts on twitter about facebook. so people were responding to this program, knowing that i was gonna have you and jason anders sophie on the shows. i have a look here on my lap top. facebook is the platform that is cause maximum disruption as say, show order to outright facilitate of genocide. india is mentioned as an example of another area where facebook and provides free basics and, and then, and the lesson and consequences to that. ah, the juicy says this lawsuit is reactionary. should have stopped a long time ago and paused dodgy, a count says, why, when they band already is
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a 150000000000 dollar loss. it if you are successful, where will them money? gun one thing. as far as what we are considering, we as 0 hunger. as i mentioned earlier, 1000000 euro hunger, general side survivors in bangladesh. refugee camps ain't also militia, thailand, india. many people have fled from the country because of general sight even until today is 600000 rockingham, the ally for actually is ongoing genocide day. so this is very important to rebuild the community, what they have laws we, you can see as i mentioned, the early a kind of human misery of how the situation in bangladesh. if you camps, we really want to see our, our brothers and sister,
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ringo who are in camps. they must get compensation and they, we want to build the future integration medical care. and you know, we want a, hopefully we can go back our native land. when we go back our native land, we can live, rebuild our community. and you know, that is very important. bomb means government is trying to destroy us intentionally . so this is very important here. we want to rebuild our community. we are a people, we have our land, our culture in our civilization. so we are not like her, you know, we really want to see something to move forward for the general sets of i, but that is our focus, main thinking, nathaniel sent up my boss, they really need support. they what facebook, a big tech company. they include one thank you so much, but you make your point so very clearly and we really appreciate you. what will happen to this? no st. let's keep up to date with a have
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a look here on my laptop. you can follow to king. i know he will be posting about jason for sure will be posting about it. and then sophie's thoughts and comments about what's happening inside a facebook. you can follow several here on twitter. and so watching everyone phoenix step beyond the comfort zone. where assumptions are challenged, travel to the ends of the earth, and further experience the unimaginable of the people who live it is a probably the most extreme situation i've been involved in. how quickly things contract award winning documentary is that also perception witness. on a, just the year. mm mm. each and every one of us, i've got a responsibility to change our patient space for the better
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we're in, we could do this experiment. and if by diversity could increase just a little bit and that would be worth doing. anybody had any idea that it would become a magnet louise, it could be rare species for women to get 50 percent representation in the constituent assembly year in jenny this me, but they got to collect the signatures the recycling business. extremely important service they provide to the city i. we need to take america to trying to bring people together and trying to deal with people who can left behind . ah al jazeera,
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with all ah, the 1st confirm death with the army kron variance is reported in the u. k. it's expected to become the dominant cove. it's strain in london within days. ah, i'm sammy's a dan. this is al jazeera alive from dell hall. so coming up, the u. s. secretary of state is in jakarta, on the 1st leg of the tour of washington's asian allies. the u. s. not to take action against military personnel for a drones strike, which killed an aid were.

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