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97 the king had refused to recognise britain's claim on west africa. while 2 items are being returned, 900 pieces remain in the british museum in london, and the people have been in city or waiting for their return. and chappelle al jazeera ah, how fast they are and these are the top stories. the u. k. parliament is debating whether it will implement new coven 19 restrictions ahead of the holidays. slide pictures from westminster. now they'll vote in the coming hours. earlier, a select committee, question scientists about the army colonel variance whole brennan with mo, from london. the situation of the moment is that the official figures appear to be lagging behind what the health authorities estimate, the real figures are. at the moment, according to the most recent figures of yesterday, are 55000 new to run of ours on cases infections. however,
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the health secretary suggested stood up in the commons on monday and said, the real figure, according to the new k, h. a 100000 paces every single day. now that's a real concern. the south african medical research councils just released its 1st study on army kron, and found that 2 doses of the fines of vaccine would provide 33 percent protection against infection from the variant but 70 percent protection against hospitalization. but the headlines on the governor of kentucky in the u. s. as at least 74 people been killed in the region by friday series of tornadoes. and more than a 100 are still missing haitian authorities, a more than 40 people have been killed after a petrol truck exploded. this is in the city of compassion. dozens of houses were also reportedly set on fire as a result of the explosion. you've a secretary state antony blinkin says the asia pacific region needs to be free of coercion. lincoln's in indonesia on the 1st leg of a tour of southeast asia,
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trying to counter china's influence. but turkey's foreign ministers announced steps are being taken to normalize ties with armenia, neville, it covers. so you said turkey and armenia will appoint special envoys and restart charter flights between the 2 countries. the relationship has long been strained over the mass killings of armenians under the ottoman empire in the early 20th century. a turkey rejects arminius, claimed that it was a genocide and gulf corporation council leaders are gathering in saudi arabia for their annual summit. they run nuclear talks, the pandemic, the taliban takeover of afghanistan all on the agenda. the last g c. c summit. so the end of the blockade on cutter after 3 and a half years. that is my luck for today. thank you for your company. adrian finnegan with you in half an hour to take you through the next few hours of news. next, it's the stream. if the political debris show that's challenging, the way you think is a military advancement, going to stop the family today is under
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a company to do right now. people out of day children are very upfront with me. welcome out here on out 0. i anthony ok to day on the stream or hinge refugees versus facebook. the media giant is being seen for a $150000000000.00 for providing a platform that spread hate speech and violence in miramar. we will dig deeper into the law state and what it may will mean for the way that facebook operate around the world. let's meet, i guess he will help. i see that hello t, tom king. jason, so facing nice to have all 3 of you with us on the screen today. tom king, please introduce yourself to adstream audience. i'm tonkin i marrow hunger. i was born and brought up west and bought obama. are kind of state i left from our country. when i was about 17, we found that i found out by miss were involved in
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a position you gay with other ruin guessing. london, we are at bull gating for the rights of ruin. got to and ruined. good general site for the justice of the rowing go to empower and rebuild the general sites of a bar where we have about 1000000 willinger general sites of labors in bangladesh, refugee camps, thank you for joining us, thinking hello, jason, nice to having part of our show please introduce yourself to our international audience. hi, i will. i am a partner at mckee, jewelry, and i would bring in the case with mr. andrea, another law firm in london. and we're very proud to represent a survivors of the ruin good genocide, such as 10 and the people he supports. thank you so much for being part of the show and hello sophie. this things add completely different angle to this conversation, but it's a very important one. please introduce yourself to an international audience. hi everyone. m sophie. i used to work at facebook. i became a whistleblower that half
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a year ago in a pro. and i at facebook. i spent my spare time catching for in that know, governments who are you, who are using fake accounts to mislead and repress their citizen ident. we're chris on the army ammo, but i am here to provide context based on my knowledge at facebook and the which of the best to the writing your people in their lawsuit and to all the people have miano in the struggle against the repressive military regime. i say thank you for bringing your inside and knowledge if you have questions for any of our guests now at a time to ask them if you're a new chief, jumping to the comment section, be part of today's program. jason, i'm going to start on my laptop. this seems like an all day. shes claim we're hing our facebook claim. lawyers representing the ringer, people around the world coating those living in refugee camps in bangladesh have launched a coordinated legal actions against facebook. public traded by the me and my regime and extremist dividends against the rehab. get people. this is
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a huge lawsuit. how did it get started, jason? well, a number of years ago we came across by my team came across the the fact that hate speech was being gar, perfect, perpetuated and amplified through the algorithms and the dope amine like structures or whatever it is on facebook and twitter. and this was causing harm to the ringer and being simple lawyers. we looked at this and said they must be buried, made accountable. there was clearly a wrong being done. not wrong, was that they didn't have enough moderators dealing with this situation. and they had an algorithm that perpetuated hate speech thinking, this is something that you, i've been complaining about for very long time. in fact, on the stream out here, we've covered some of the atrocities that happen to the re hang up people. so joe,
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does this last scene do in terms of that campaigning? how does it, kristen? i think one thing is was we need to look at, you know, 0 hunger general side. and during general side, their facebook played a key role. you know how spread in hate as speech and as a whole vermin a country is a spread up and many figures military leaders are. they were through facebook as spread in just got rid of them at some innate them and kill them all. and these are colors, they are trained to invade our land, we can not accept their full doors. what military perpetrated these are justified, and a lot of a missing formation, you know, through facebook that really encourage military to kill thousands of rolling a lives. and we have see, and we, we can see to day 1000000 people on the wall. i just reviewed you coming the wall in bangladesh, about 1000000 ruined your generals had survive us in, in
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a camps and thousands of rominger were slaughtered and you know, thousands of rowing women been raped by the by miss military. those are all justified just in facebook page in air, you know, pages just get rid of them. we don't want to see these raise in our country. they're not belongs to us. so is really, really encouraged and justification to the military ethic in a country. so we are human being as i am romania i brought up in our kind of state . you know, i have seen growing a general such survey but what they suffer. and so we really need justice. what feed book contribute at hey, to speak through the platform, a big giant tab, and they should not allow these. and so our point is essaro ingo. we want justice. we really want to see facebook responsibility. and we want to see what facebook will do about it. so we really want to get also to rebuild our community
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compensation justice and as a big tech company, they should now allow, this happened to any community in the war. you know, we suffer, we enough, you know, is already we lost everything. our lance, when already of more than $380.00 religious bundle. can you imagine the all laws a 2 person populations select from a country where we belong to, where i wanted to lend our canister? balmy's military got rid of us. so this is very important for the junk and i, we, we, he, so clearly here is it's like, where is the justice? so this, perhaps this class lawsuit may be, this is where the justice is. sophie, i'm gonna re re reading and re excuse me, re enact you with a fellow facebook whistleblower, called francis hogan, who testified in front of congress. and it appears to me that facebook as huge as
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it is a student, a global company, is, does not have the culture to understand the world. he's francis. and i'd really love you to talk about that. does facebook, is it equipped to manage all of the different countries that it has facebook appearing it? let's take a look at francis. what she has to say for us. i saw facebook repeatedly encounter conflicts between its own profit and our safety. facebook consistently resolve these conflicts in favor of its own prophets. the result has been more division, more harm, more lies, more threads, and more combat. in some cases, this does, this dangerous online talk has led to actual violence, there harms and even kills vivo apps. absolutely. so one thing wanted say, 1st it's at facebook, it's the company, it's going to make money. facebook said that it's trying to handle these problems,
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but we dont trust vent up morris tobacco companies when they say that they are trying to enter security diction. we don't see trust fossil fuel companies like exxon mobil, when they'd say that you're trying to and could open warming at the end of the day . facebook, if the company and to the and to the extent a curious about this matter it's, it's because of public attention. bitches. over in amity, ted resource in countries like me, ammo. the activity and amy ama is not new 33 years ago. the united nations fact finding mission the they said that facebook played a determining ro in that me and my genocide facebook has apologized for its actions repeatedly, but it has failed to take action because at the end of the facebook as a company, and there is no profit in stop in genocide for them. this jason? no eyes and i wanted to say, i think sofi just told it is it is. and you know what we're dealing here with facebook is
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a monopolistic juggernaut which is out of control running through our cultural streets. and they seem to feel that they can move around this world with impunity using st. carefully crafted structures to avoid liability. and it's got to stop these things have to change, they have to change. we can't allow of the people like the rang it to go through what the ringer of gone through. and right now we've got these same issues. the soap is just talking about here going on in ethiopia and against the t grey. it's got to stop. i'm wondering about that the challenge of identifying hate speech on line tin kin. it's easy for an algorithm to spot certain things like nudity, for instance, or indecency that those things are quite easy to scott. but you are, you need to have language skills in order to spot hate speech. exactly,
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that's what i want to point out here when facebook entered to burma, they did not hire enough boundaries and rowing gears and others who understand about political context or burma. that's really, you know, that's the route that created becomes was also so the whole society. so until i thing, as far as i know that mother go back here in come into the senate. they didn't hire enough. even now i don't think they're there for not only about a 100 over, so had about 50, maybe 50 or maybe 50 local language experts. but initially, when some of the worst atrocities were happening, they had no bernie speakers. and let me just share this conversation with sophie sophie, what did you wanna add? go ahead. absolutely. and so it which these sorts of questions must people immediately jump to that something the assumption that content moderation, it's what causes this, that the problem is he to speech is that it has been said. but conspiracy theories
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and hate for speech have always existed. the jewish people i sat, the familiar with that label that has been spilt over, sent the centuries 60 years ago. a common conspiracy theory in the united states was a fluoride in water, was the communist plot to mind control people, the difference today. it's not that these conspiracy theories that these hate speech is been st. louis been spoken and written. it's that it's been spread and distributed before in the past. if someone wanted to get attention they needed to close rekey gatekeepers. whether that was major in newspapers or, or, or made or other media out that's or even trusted into which was in it's manu that more rural country. but facebook has short circuited it. that it, it, they take my, ran at he and, and freedom of distribution for granted the states. but this is extremely new, and a typical and the road is still grappling with its effects and, and, and the consequences of it are numerous by the, among the rocking up people in me,
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amor by them, by the amman, by the amounts those killed by ethnic violence in serene anchor blue among the alcove miniatures, lynched to that space. what by ro, roommates, and in india be taken for granted. but to me this is not a question of content moderation. this is the content of content distribution. the ruin has the right to freedom of speech, but no one has the right to be to be heard to, to be distributed, alter the right, does not have a responsibility to broadcast every single person to the entire world. and, but facebook had struck to so could at this and made it extremely easy. okay, let me just bring and jason, jason, i want to show you something. i'm sure you're aware of this matter, which is now that the big company that facebook is known as on my laptop here are dating it's ethiopian audience on the long standing work to protect people in
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ethiopia. so in ethiopia right now, there is a civil or i'm going to call your civil war, civil conflict. um and the various different groups are sometimes use social media in order to share their thoughts, their opinions, talk back and forth with each other. so facebook here is saying, this is what we're doing to manage this decay rate this. but we also heard from a journalist who said that what facebook is doing is not enough. i really want to get your thoughts about the tentative action that facebook is, is making right now. and if it's connected to your loss, it loosely his lucy festival. it may just one day after i published one of my articles, prominent pro government was 200000 followers, posted my photo and called for my arrest. the post was like by a $100000.00 and had won college and comments which include general god,
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there that i should be older found to shoot me. and there were many more holy comments. it took 6 months for remove the host, and only after the case was mentioned in an article by didn't use about facebook. i can't imagine what could happen to me if i were inside the country. the time jason thought my, my thought saw is that i didn't think as a society, we can believe the word that a corporate, like facebook says, they've known about what was going on beneath the ip, they should have been on it before it even occurred. if you look at our action we issued last week, the day after we issued facebook made a big announcement that it was taking down military regime accounts in my mall. why was that knocked down in 2040 immediately when they were aware of it from the media
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room from when n g i got in touch with them. they didn't do it to stop doing good any serious way until they got to the senate hearings. when they grade the fallen fall short. did the day go and start do more than an apologies to the ranger did. they start realizing that they had corporate responsibility and should be being accountable now. so now it's the next woman. this is what this case is about. this is what tung canon the survivors want to do. it's not just a case for them. it's not just about reparations. a justice for them, it's about stopping this way. would company from creating harm to people all over the world who are vulnerable? so guess i have some mutual comments i want to share with you jason. this one i'm going to put straight to you. some push back to what you're saying here. facebook is not the united nations affirmation mark. you would say what to that feeler. it's certainly not the united nations that if it was the united nations,
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it would have been earth. united nations would have been terminated long ago on facebook hasta, understand about corporate responsibility. it has to understand that it's not just about monopolies and making money. they have an effect on society where they cross that line. the law will find them liable, and they've got to be brought to hill til kin. and sophie, i'm going to put a spoke to you and you can split this question. jesse wanders, would it be a good idea for facebook to establish regional offices to focus on regions so that they actually understood the culture, the language of these regional offices. so for you guys 1st briefly, what that is partially a solution. so facebook already hats reach no offices, for instance, in southeast asia, for instance, in south asia, these regional offices are focused and, and working with stakeholders and the power players rather than the people in those
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regions. so unfortunately, you idea it's already in place and i'm not sure that it's very helpful because it's fuck, it's focused on essentially robin rather than having her. right. so they're not acting as cultural ambassadors this. it's really take maybe get facebook to spread into more places and thinking regional office is megan different kind of regional office with that her. i totally agree with the sophia. they have already. i'd thing, as far as i know, there is an office in singapore and we, we are, are we, we are here in there are some people there, the hired at lee or i don't know exactly about 100 but is too late to be honest. but it's not even enough. you are open in regional office. if you don't really take down when i want people, we lost our lives. we lost, we lost many lives. we lost everything. you know, our people already in bangladesh, if you'd, you camps 1000000 people, you know, they are living in
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a squalid condition. not getting proper foot, not getting proper medical treatment, not getting proper added wish. and so a whole, a generation, a whole adult, the community of all generation grown without any wheelchair and not proper food. and so there we men, misery. we are seen to a, you know, in bangladesh, you food, you can so odd to be honest, is quite late, even though they open it is not really i don't thing is really walk in up until you don't taken down the facebook pause, which are hate her speech and you got him? i did. does jason have mentioned, you know, like, after we've wide or for the rowing of the we find the case. the dogs did they take and o military, where they have gone uno last in the last. 0670 years, you know, military commander in chief, criminal, gang leader, me online. as said this is unfinished business. we might have been read of 1914,
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2 of unfinished business. so these things are encouraging. didn't, didn't really, to how i am just going to share yet at service. that last part of the conversation with sophia and jason, sophie, go ahead. why does it take so long for the house to come down? i think that fundament, i think that fundamentally facebook doesn't have is facebook doesn't have a reason to care about this. you could hire everyone in the road to, to accompany, but that won't change anything if they aren't given that the bay and power to actually fix within the company like facebook, i, myself and many others tried very hard to fix it. i caught people red handed with no question of their guilt, and it still took more more than a year to take them down. in the case of the dictated why, why to have had to go find me. something about leslie did not care because they did, i hear the shock because they had the at, i mean, suppose that suppose you could, how a tobacco company we figured out how to fix. we figured out how to, how to stop when priestly from getting down cancer. as a result of cigarette smoke in the tobacco company has no reason to have
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a division that than that prevents people from getting down cancer. they don't, they don't want people to get non cancer per se, but the accepted as a cost of doing business and they have no reason to stop it. i think literacy, facebook campus seminar, let me just tap into what jason was like. i had jason, i just wanted to say that on this program it ton and sophia, the real heroes here. i'm an aunt sophie. i have a question for you. and it's this, this debate, particularly with the ringer, is a matter of legitimate public interest. we've written to facebook and asked them to waive their randy a's an silencing of contracts against employees. do you, do you feel this people inside facebook who don't feel this is right and would want to speak out? it's a certainly believe that there are people within facebook who, who feel it, who feel that echoed up on the situation with that said i dont note,
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i dont know who certainly most people are most concerned about their own personal countries. most employees in facebook are, for instance, americans, i or india, or indians on each one, b, b science or, or it cetera and their net. and the naturally most concerned, i would say on country i'm a bit of the odd person out because and when the american who came forward about countries like on dearest st oser page on that, they know that if not, reset stepped foot in but they would suit and they believe that for instance, some of the contract workers we are within, we are mo, who are for many risk though could anchorage and so presumably have affinity with that country with the brits the country would be willing to speak out but they dont but they dont know, oh oh oh, i mean ultimate, the, this is a situation that has been that has been on for years. it was, it was in the spring that took 2018 when the united nations font facebook to have the put him in the row in the ongoing genocide and,
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and ultimately fits because no reason to change it without pressure. or let me just share something with you, tongue king. so there's, there's a lot of, am a very pointy thoughts on twitter about facebook. so people were responding to this program, knowing that i was going to have you and jason anders safely on the shows. i have a look here on my lap top. facebook is the platform that is cause maximum disruption of social order to outright facilitator of genocide. india is mentioned as an example of another area where facebook and provides for basics and, and then, and the lesson and consequences to that. ah, the juicy says this lawsuit is reactionary. should have stopped a long time ago and paused dodgy, a count says, why, when they vandal ready? it's a 150000000000 dollar loss it if you are successful, where will them money go?
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one thing as far as what we are considering, we as 0 hunger, as i mentioned earlier, 1000000 euro hunger, general side survivors in bangladesh. refugee camps ain't also militia, thailand, india, many people have fled from the country because of general sight even until today, 600000 rominger the alive are actually ongoing genocide. so this is very important to rebuild the community, what they have laws we, you can see as i mentioned, the early a kind of human misery of how the situation in bangladesh if you camps, we really want to see our, our brothers and sister throwing up who are in camps, they must get compensation and they, we want to build the future integration medical care. and you know, we want a, hopefully we can go back our native land. when we go back our native land,
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we can live, rebuild our community. and you know, that is very important. bomb means government is trying to destroy us intentionally . so this is very important here. we want to rebuild our community. we are a people, we have our land, our culture in our civilization. so we are not like her, you know, we really want to see something to move forward for the general sets of i, but that is our focus, main thinking, nathaniel sent up my boss, they really need support. they what facebook, a big tech company. they include one thank you so much, but you make your point so very clearly and we really appreciate you. what will happen to this? no st. let's keep up to date with a have a look here on my laptop. you can follow to king. i know he will be posting about jason for sure will be posting about it. and then sophie's thoughts and comments about what's happening inside a facebook. you can follow several here on twitter. and so watching everyone
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