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i am for me. okay, you're watching the stream for several years now. china's weakest have been complaining about discriminatory treatment. we 1st heard news of allegations about detention camps for week as back in 2018 now, according to united nations, an estimated 1000000 week as are detained. and when challenged about these detention camps. china describe the facilities as vocational training centers in the united kingdom this month and independent tribunal decided that the treatment of china's wiggers should be called genocide. he is the tribunals, chair said geoffrey, nice with more evidence from witnesses. fact witnesses heard at the tribunal's hearings in june and september, which was largely accepted by the tribunal. show that ends in jang,

at the hands of some part or parts of the p. r. c. government, the ccp. hundreds of thousands of acres with some estimates. well, in excess of a 1000000 have been detained by p. r, seal saw his without any or any remotely sufficient reason and subjected to acts of unconscionable cruelty depravity and inhumanity. detainees were forced to provide blood samples and subjected to other medical testing for no disclosed reason. pregnant women in detention centers and outside were forced to have abortions, even at the very last stages of pregnancy. in the course of attempted abortions, babies were sometimes born alive, but then killed. that was one example of international action as far as the treatment of weak us are concerned in the know for some part of china. what are they international action might well change the future of the we get people. that is the question for today's episode of the stream. if you have a comment, you have

a question for a line up, please let us know. but in the comment section on the chip. so let's meet our panel . hello to jo. ha, hallow to mom at john and hello to motor. good to have you here on the stream. i joe, how welcome back to the stream. please remind out what is here. you are what you did. thank you very much for having me again for me, and my name is joe harl. hum. i am an author a human rights advocate. i am also the force labor project coordinator and the worker rights consortium. get to have you. i'm at john. always get to see you on the street. we ran our audience. hey, you are what you day. thank you very much for having me here today. again, as i mentioned you are, i work for radio free asia as a director of waco service. we cover china related news. thank you. well, jennifer donio to get on the stream and how will i to get to have you please introduce yourself to our international audience. thank you for having me here. i am or to indicate i am

a project researcher at transitional justice database. it's an ongoing project that focuses on the registration of disappeared, an extra traditionally intern at target vehicle. yes, i want to start with this u. k. independent tribunal. what difference does it make if an independent tribunal says what is happening to china's weak as that is janice? i jo, how you start? well, 1st of all, it's when i 1st heard this, the decision of announcement of the decision by that we were tribunal. as an we were individual, i didn't know whether i should cry or smile. it is deeply saddening for us to hear that genocide is happening to my people. but i also was, i was grateful to see that such decision was made when hundreds of thousands of our we were brothers and sisters are going through all tide's types of torture and sufferings and by the chinese government. and even though the we were tribute does

not hold and enforcement power, but it is and he should be acknowledged at because of its intellectual moral credibility. and i really hope that the decision that announced with the following the tribunals decision, it will bring up more attention awareness on this issue. and also it can encourage more government entities to put on an action on this matter because it is government's jobs, their responsibility to stop genocide. more to help us understand how the try boy bruno use the information that you were able to gather as part of your organization . you were an expert witness. what did you bring to the tribunal? yes, i was invited as an expert witness to the tribunal due to a report which we which our team have released this year. and i was a co author and we'll report. so we were presented in regards to the

testimony collection part was that we have pro pro, provided a statistic, we have registered a total of $6285.00 testimony. so people who are missing detained in camps sentenced into prison, or died in the re education cabs. we have also worked with satellite imagery. research team have documented facial locations of 234 medication cam said 257 prison. there are some horrible findings among the statistics reform, dutch $147.00 camps have forced labor factories inside or near the protection, which is which means that we suspect that they are involved in force labor. and we did also find that $42.00 camps have crew material locations would thing

tensional meters. we have shared this findings where they independent investigators from are ready for asia, for example. and by confirmed some feed from materials located and actually city. and we did also find that there is a few cam who as, which is located next to an atomic laboratory in room to city. and we therefore suspect that these camps might have connections woods for the organ harvesting. so this is what i presented at the tribe, you know, that's really shocking material that i want to share. something with the mom at john, this is from global times, which is as a state china paper publication. they describe this rica tribunal as a false. that's been staged in the west. what do you make of that reaction moment john? turn us response to this tribunal and other international action. so campaigns

always the same. so instead of giving or providing any substantial rebuttal, criticize or personal attack, the organizers, for example, they attack human rights and they could as well as the lawyers. for example, jeffrey night, jeff night. accuse sir jeffy, nice as a spy, instead of showing what parts of their findings were incorrect. so china bottles like this baseless and always they do it as an attack instead of showing any kind of counter arguments legitimate counter arguments. it's not surprising at all. so i'm going to bring in a new voice into our conversation and this comes from the public affairs officer of east turkish. stan, use congress. his name is amena cash gallery and he said,

you didn't know where to be happy or sad about what these tribunal found. out i genocide, this is i'm analysis response, have a listen and then react to the video regarding the tribunal, another court actually in china. we encourage you to see all atrocity happening in east circus on as an ongoing colonial process. ambition of the chinese regime. illuminate everyone and anyone who has non chinese enough or their definition so they can have a firm control of the territory. i agree with a lot of things that he just mentioned that man it we who has had been forced to suffer from, from chinese government, reaching under different types, agree to whom ice abuse is because of their identity. and it's really signing to see that it, it has been happening and it's still continuing. and governments around the world need to put on ashan immediately to stop this from keep happening. i'd like to

address one more point and i can have the tense. i would like to just address that about the harassment which the weaknesses happen facing during the hearings. i remember the 3 cars like weaknesses who arrived from kingston prior to the harried snouts. they've been receiving phone calls from cuz i started stay scripts, they security services threatened and i'm to not to testify. besides, the chinese minister of foreign affairs held a 2nd press conferences using the family members of the weaknesses who were given evidence to undermine that has the monies. and one of the fact weakness actually had a video of her has been on the official for admins truth twitter page. her husband does describe her story as nonsense. and even after the hearings, the chinese authorities have called the family members of o. we were in cassock weaknesses, and they held a press conference,

forcing them to denounced their family members are liars, and even churchhouse the conference center was put under pressure to not to hold this event. so we can see that the brutality of this government know the knows no bonds and they will do everything in order to support their narrative denying that there's any problem. and they really tried their best to make it to look like it's all made up. and they, i think the metrics that they've been using are extremely despicable to be a state. it is despicable and the moral bill to attack some legal survivors such as tornado and them. not that they had been speaking about sticking up about their treatment in the country, how they were treated and how the way you can be made to her tortured rate. it's just to medicaid, electric shocks and poetry,

and instead of counter countering them with evidence, china attack them morally, attack personal character, describe them liars, and immoral people. so that's how they attack. actually, what happens is what i feel is different about the conversation that we're having now. not really allegations and the experiences of we have been caught up in china's program of either forced labor or of these detention camps is that the knowledge is out there before we were trying to get this knowledge out that we're not doing here is here's where no fresh china is here where the detention camps are. we're already talking about this as if our audience knows all about it. let's talk about some of the international pressure that is not about this independent tribunal. for instance, the upcoming beijing olympics. there's been a lot of activity about that and should it be boycotted to that the diplomatic

boycotts? i'm going to ask you to take off your filter. joe. ha, honestly, a diplomatic voice call. what does that even mean? how helpful is that? what diplomatically caught means, that the country that announced diplomatic wake up will not send any officials to attend. i didn't really mean what does that mean? what does it mean to we is yes, and it's great to hear. it's very heartwarming to see that there are so far around 7 countries that had announced a diplomatic boycotts to day belgium. just l. so joined the list of, of my cutting at the all in pix boy cut a boy cutting olympics diplomatically. but we want to see concrete measures and we want to see that this, this boy, i can also send a message to athletes around the world as well. to be want to compete in countries that are committing genocide towards a group of people. and also i also hope that this diplomatically can send

a message to corporate corporate corporations around the world. do they want to sponsor that? are supporting the genocide. and there are some human rights activists and human rights organizations. they are calling it full blown boycott because they think that diplomatic, but god doesn't have any to so it's symbolic, but it is still better than nothing but should be done as well as well. so it kinda quickly as well as long by con my impact. okay, enough to see against can i can i share this thought with you. this comes from renee provost. he's a professor of law and mcgill university. he sent this to us a little bit earlier to add to our conversation about the impact of even a diplomatic boy court of the upcoming winter olympics. here is to generally speaking, the best approach he's to mainstream human rights to make it

a part of the relation that government has with china. so you can make relations boycotting some goods produced by week who is absolutely, but also the diplomatic boy off of the olympics. i think he's a very interesting and effective approach trying to present amanda, and michael says that they would not join because it was merely symbolic. and that in fact is exactly the point. the olympics, or symbolic, or part of this claim to be a central power in the world. so a diplomatic board caught symbolically challenges, fath play. yes, i agree. i agree. because united states government announced china is coming genocide. and at the same time, if you send anybody diplomatic representation to china, so that would be supporting or legitimizing their actions against the leaders and

also negating their decisions before the made in january. so it's a good decision then the many countries at least 7 countries followed yes, but according to the human rights activists and organizations and some other governments, for example, they also contemplating full blown by cod. and we, we want to see that as well. for example, this writer david class, he wrote that because of the international community failed. the 1936 fairly olympics that emboldened hitler and at the end o 60000000 innocent used their lives. so i'd have been stopped or pressured, the german government and turned their course this, this holocaust wouldn't have happened. so this author argues that there is a lot,

a lot of parallel. so at that time the many western countries had a lot of comic interests in germany. so they didn't issue any full blown boycott at the time. so they are having the same interest right now. so maybe that's why they are not really boycotting dylan. pick fully. that's the argument. so this kind of argument has been there since this year that you can see a lot of places. yeah, i totally agree. i think 1st of all, china shouldn't be hosting this game. they olympics are an expression of freedom, competition, and respect. and i think china's behavior does not represent any of this qualities . and instead they're carrying out to genocide, and we're actually allowing the world's highest profile event to be used to sports wash, genocide regimes, reputation. oh,

i think the international olympic committee should be blamed for the situation actually, because they decided to allocate the winter games in by jean, even though they knew that there's serious crimes are being committed by the chinese regime and student standing up for the on principals. the international olympic committee have chosen to keep their golden money on track. and i think in terms of the fact of the diplomatic breakout, it will be more efficient if more and more countries participates in those in those to try to quickly contain yeah. okay. yes. several countries did already. i have so many mutual questions for you. guess. are you ready? all right, we're going to be the very fond of it so we can get as many in as possible. i'm going to start with the cheap coleman go straight to a law maker in the u. s. co marco rubio, and then come back to you guess, so stand by for this. cuba who's watching online now. thank you. the only thing i'm

wondering is whether or not using economic pressure is actually useful sanctions a use all the time. yet, besides doing, besides doing economic damage, they never seem to get much else done. okay, that's one video from youtube. here is marco rubio with what he's hoping to do legally in the united states regarding force labor. have a listen havoc. after months of working on this and negotiation or having to play a little hard mall, my weaker force labor prevention act is, is going to become law. it's a common centreville that says if you make things in, she's young, then you need to prove that there is no slave labor involved in making it before you can bring that stuff into the united states. in other words, the proof is now on businesses dot the burdens on them to show that they opt, that they are not operating using these work camps. and if you can't prove it, then your product doesn't in the united states, it's that simple. so i hope an urge president biden to sign the bill into law

immediately. it's time to end our economic addiction to china, and that starts by cracking down on slave labor. joe, i'll go ahead and yesterday at the house and senate finally made an agreement on the language of the of the, of this bill. and i can't wait for it to be passed completely. and that's only the 1st step. the most vital step is been enforcement without enforcement then it's me all is nothing just talk. yes. and if the bill can actually be passed by december by december 31st and of this year, that means by next summer, there will be no products made by that we've region by the week where people will be allowed entering the us as long as, as, except they can prove it that it's with clear evidence that it's not made like we were forced labor. and i can't wait for that to happen. i so many more questions on youtube. all right, motor, this one's coming to you florida says, i think the world has already felt the weakest. they haven't been able to stop the

c. c p. you'll thoughts briefly yes, i think we were actually around the world have been doing so much to stop this genocide, this extra taste and the launch of the tribunal diplomatic boy culture of the vision olympics and the course they were prevention act and so much more. however, we do not see that the camps are closed, it's still there. and there are still people reporting about their missing family members. and the recent report on people being killed and during interrogation in the camp and international branch i still benefit from for we were forced labor. so this means that we have a lot more to do. and the 1st labor production act and the verdict of the organ, i hope it means that we're not alone in the fight. i'm.

i'm, i'm going to bring in this thought here. this one is for you mom at john. it comes from the feet who is very sympathetic towards the chinese authorities. china is treated unfairly. she jammed protects the freedom of travel, of people, of all ethnic groups, including the weakest, and that communication with overseas relative, according to the law. i know that guests here, i know that is not true a far as your relatives are concerned, but have a listen here to the chinese foreign ministry who is pushing back on the sanctions that were just applied by the u. s. and then malick jan. pick up off the back. here we go. sure. well, there to go. we are telling the united states that the chinese government is unwavering and its determination to defend national sovereignty. security and development interests were unwavering in our determination to combat violence, terrorism separatism, and religious extremists forces. we are unwavering in our determination to oppose any external interference in chin. jones affairs are china's internal affairs. the

perverse actions of the united states cannot destroy the overall shape of shing jan's development. stop china's progress or reverse the trend of historical development. we urge the u. s. to immediately withdraw the relevant wrong decision and stop interfering in china's internal affairs and harming china's interests. if the u. s. ax recklessly china will take effect of measures to strike back resolutely. or danny doesn't sound like china is acknowledging any of the external pressure that is being applied regarding the treatment of the weakest in a sentence. sweat the end of the show. how would you respond? channel has been denying, for example, when we covered the detain, many where you could say please 120000 waiters in cash car. and before that they denied they had this internment camps the call it. and after the act of the international pressure and international law, news media reports, they admitted they had this camps and they called it occasional vocational schools,

or a training center job training centers. and at the end, right now, we have found out that they are and the concentration camps. so it might take some time to china to really admit what they're doing in, in the region is wrong. and they're committing genocide and they should have that. i'm going to have one more voice because that question i asked, what is the point? does china respond? is onset by this my no voice in our conversation? haven't even have we know for a fact that inclination, no pressure really works. this is the only me that was stop china from continuing to come in gender site again, the story of people. this pressure may not immediately change the conditions on the ground, but it is putting china on defensive. first, they deny everything makes they change the subject. and now they often forced to

defend their atrocities for the government, the un and in front of the whole world. we need to continue pressure from all the sites. it is the only way to bring genocide plant. thank you. guess for helping us understand the situation with the leaders in china right now and the internal and external pressure that is being applied. joe har, ma'am at john. i more time. i appreciate you being part of the stream to day and on youtube. your questions were very helpful. thank you for having that conversation with us here on the stream. i'll see you next time. that's watching everybody take care. ah. a musician, performer, visionary teacher. ah, how's is there

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