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and english has dedicated his life to them from may when their 1st planted, his livelihood rests on these plants, doing well, economic eslinger. practically, it's a year's income. a lot of families depend on this. more than one half 1000 families just in such a milk or from work. and they're hoping for big bounce in sales as met could continues to open up. and christmas comes. john holman out is eda mae exclusively ah, your child is arrow with me. so he'll roman in doha reminder of our top stories. the amazon variant is driving record crone of iris cases. in many countries around the world, france has bound all non essential travel from the u. k. and on the african continent, the dallas from amazon barons have driven infections by nearly 83 percent. the rise, the caveat 19 cases is set to feature highly at a meeting of european leaders in brussels. tensions with valerie about migration
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flows, as well as a security situation with u. k. retrain will also be discussed. natasha battle has as update from paris ahead of the meeting of european leaders. the french government been watching the situation in the u. k. very closely. indeed. and they've decided to impose restrictions effectively banning non essential travel between the u. k and frogs, effective from saturday. now, french citizens and residents will be able to return to france, where anyone having to travel in this period of time from saturday onwards, we'll have to have a p c, or tassel depaul choate arrival. they will have to self isolate the french government. it says that it is particularly concerned of course, about trying to stop the spread of the oma kron variance. briscoe operations are and away in parts of the philippines that have been hit by one of the strongest storms in the world, a sheer official say about 10000 villages in the path of the typhoon associated
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presses, calling on the f t a p. government to immediately release a freelance video journalist attain 2 weeks ago. i mean among kyoto was arrested in the capital out of arbor accused of promoting terrorism. so he's president, reggie type o one plan to raise the minimum wage by more than 50 percent next year. work as well now and a minimum of $275.00 a month and is not category will also be exempt from paying income tax. bank employees in india have begun a 2 days trying to protest against the privatization of public sector banks. demonstrations took place in the capital, new delhi, the all india bank officers confederation, which is a union says the privatization of 2 banks could result in job losses. and bank closures, the headlines loan use in half an hour with 3 and alligator in the nissan. next is the stream here, when i was there to stay with us. if america held up a mirror to itself, what would it see in a sense, race is the story of america. what's working and what's not. a lot of people were
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only talking about that. it wasn't at with half of the agenda. if america can handle multiple challenges on multiple fronts, we need to go back to school. the bottom line on al jazeera hire for me. okay. you're watching the stream for several years now. china's weakest had been complaining about discriminatory treatment. we 1st heard news of allegations about detention camps for week as back in 2018. now, according to united nations, an estimated 1000000 weekends are detained. and when challenged about these detention camps, china described the facilities as vocational training centers. in the united kingdom this month, an independent tribunal decided that the treatment of china's wiggers should be cause genocide. he is to trevino's chair, said geoffrey,
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nice with more evidence from witnesses. fact witnesses heard of the tribunals hearings in june and september, which was largely accepted by the tribunal show that ins injuring at the hands of some part or parts of the p. r. c government, the ccp. hundreds of thousands of acres with some estimates well in excess of a 1000000 have been detained by p. r. seal storage is without any or in a remote please sufficient reason and subjected to acts of unconscionable cruelty depravity and inhumanity. detainees were forced to provide blood samples and subject to draw their medical testing for no disclosed reason. pregnant women in detention centers and outside were forced to have abortions, even at the very last stages of pregnancy. in the cause of attempted abortions,
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babies were sometimes born alive, but been killed. that was one example of international action as far as the treatment of weakness are concerned in the know for some part of china. what are they international action might well change the future of the we get people. that is the question for today's episode of the stream. if you have a comment, you have a question for a line up, please let us know. but even the comment section on the chip. so let's meet our paddle hello to jo. ha, hello to mum at john and hello to more to get to have you here on the stream. i jo, how welcome back to the stream. please remind out what is who you are, what you did. thank you very much for having me again, found me, and my name is jo harl hum. i am an author, a human rights advocate. i am also the force labor project coordinator at the worker rights consortium. get to have you. i'm at john. always get to see you on the street when my audience, hey, you are what you day. thank you very much for having me here today. and if i may
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change tomorrow, i work for radio free asia as a director of weight or service. we cover china related news. thank you about jennifer danielle again on the stream and home. well, i to get to have you, please introduce yourself to our international audience. thank you for having me here. i am auto etiquette. i am a project researcher at over transitional just is database. it's an ongoing project that focuses on the registration of disappeared and extra traditionally interned ogres and other target vehicle. yes, i want to start with this u. k. independent tribunal. what difference does it make if an independent tribunal says what is happening to china as we goes? that is janice. i jo, how you start? well, 1st of all, it's when i 1st heard this the decision of the announcement of the decision by the weaker tribunal as an we were individual, i didn't know whether i should cry or smile. it is diff,
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deeply setting for us to hear that genocide is happening to my people. but i also was, i was grateful to see that such decision was made when hundreds of thousands of our we were brothers and sisters are going through all types of types of torture and sufferings and by the chinese government. and even though the weaver tribunal does not hold an enforcement power, but it is and he should be acknowledged because of its intellectual moral credibility. and i really hope that the decision that the now with the following the tribunals decision, it will bring up more attention awareness on this issue. and also it can encourage more government entities to put on an action on this matter because it is governments jobs, their responsibility to stop genocide more to help us understand how the try point, you know, use the information that you were able to gather as part of your organization,
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you were an expert witness. what did you bring to the tribunal? yes, i was invited as an expert witness to the tribunal due to a report which we, which our team have released this year. and i was a co author. and we'll report. so we were presented in regards to the testimony collection part was that we have to approach pro, provided a statistic, we have registered a total of $6285.00 testimony. so people who mission detained in camps sentenced into prison or died in the re education cabs. we have also worked with satellite imagery research. our team has documented feature locations of 234 medication cam said 257 prison. there are some horrible findings among the
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statistics reform, dutch $147.00 camps have forced labor factories inside or near the protection, which is which means that we suspect that they are involved in force labor. and we did also find that $42.00 camps have crew material locations would thing tensional meters. we have shared this findings where they independent investigators from are ready for asia, for example. and by confirmed some feed from materials located and actually city. and we did also find that there is a few cam who as, which is located next to an atomic laboratory in room to city. and we therefore suspect that those camps might have connections woods for the organ harvesting. so this is what i presented at the tribe, you know, that's really shocking material that i want to share. something with the mom at john, this is from global times, which is
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a state china paper publication. they describe this rica tribunal at the fall, been staged in the west. what do you make of that reaction moment, john? i train us response to this tribunal and other international action. so campaigns always the same. so instead of giving are providing any substantial bottle, criticize, or personal attack. the organizers, for example, they attack human rights advocates as well as the lawyers. for example, jeffrey, nice jeffrey night sir. jeffy, nice as a spy, instead of showing what parts of their findings were incorrect. so china's rebuttals like this baseless and always they do it
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as an attack instead of showing any kind of counter arguments legitimate contra agreements. it's not surprising at all. so i'm going to bring in a new voice into our conversation, and this comes from the public affairs officer of east perkins. stan, use congress, his name is amena cash gallery and he said, you didn't know where to be happy or sad about what these tribunals found. out i genocide, this is emma, not as response, have a listen and then react to the bay area regarding the tribunal, another court actually in china. we encourage you to see all atrocity happening in east circus on as an ongoing colonial process. ambition of the chinese regime. illuminate everyone and anyone who has non chinese enough or their definition. so they can have a firm control up the territory. i agree with a lot of things that i,
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he just mentioned that manually who has had been forced to suffer from, from chinese government, reaching under different types. agreed as humor, ice abuses because of their identity. and it's really signing to see that it, it has been happening and it's still continuing. and governments around the world need to plan ashan immediately to stop this from keep happening. i'd like to address one more point and i can have the chance i would like to just address that about the harassment which the weaknesses happened facing during the hearings. i remember the 3 cause like weaknesses who arrived from has done prior to the hearing . stout's, they've been receiving phone calls from because i started stay scripts, they security services, trenton, and i'm to not to testify. besides, the chinese minister of foreign affairs held a 2nd press conferences using the family members of the weaknesses who were given
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evidence to undermine the testimonies. and one of the fact weakness actually had a video of her has been on the official foreign ministries, twitter page. her husband is describe her story as nonsense. and even after the hearings, the chinese authorities have called the family members of all, we were in cause like weaknesses, and they helped a press conference, forcing them to denounced their family members are liars. and even churchhouse, the conference center was put under pressure to not to hold this event. so we can see that the brutality of this government know they knows no bonds and they will do everything in order to support their narrative denying that there's any problem. and they really tried their best to make it to look like it's all made up. and they, i think the metrics that they've been using are extremely despicable to be a state. yes, it is despicable and the moral bill to attack some legal survivors such as tornado
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and them. not that they had been speaking about sticking up about their treatment in the chemistry, how they were treated and how the way you can be made to her tortured rate. it's just to medicaid, electric shocks and torture, and instead of counter countering them with evidence, china attack them morally, attack christian character described them liars and immoral people. so that's how they attack. actually, what happens is what i feel is different about the conversation that we're having now, not the rethink allegations and the experiences of we have been caught up in china's program of either forced labor. all of these did detention camps is that the knowledge is out there before we were trying to get this knowledge out that we're not doing here is here's where no fresh china is here,
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where the detention camps were already talking about. this is if our audience knows all about it, let's talk about some of the international pressure that is not about this independent tribunal. for instance, the upcoming beijing olympics. it's been a lot of activity about that. and should it be boycotted to that the diplomatic boycotts? i'm going to ask you to take off your filter, joe. ha, honestly, a diplomatic voice call. what does i even mean? how helpful is that? what diplomatically cut means, that the country that announced diplomatic way cut will not send any officials to attend. i mean, what does that mean? what does it mean to we? yes, yes. and it's great to hear. it's very heartwarming to see that there are so far around 7 countries that had announced a diplomatic boycotts to day belgium. just l. so joined the list of, of my cutting at the all in pix boy cut a boy cutting olympics diplomatically. but we want to see concrete measures,
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and we want to see that this, this boy, i can also send a message to athletes around the world as well. to be want to compete in countries that are committed genocide towards a group of people. and also i also hope that this diplomatically can send a message to corporate corporate corporations around the world. do they want to sponsor that are supportive agenda site and there are some like human rights activists and human rights organizations. they are calling a full blown boycott because they think that diplomatic, but god doesn't have any to. so it's symbolic, but it is still better than nothing but should be done as well as well. so it comically, as well as full blown by con my impact enough to see against can i can i shavers thought was in this comes from rent a provost. he's
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a professor of law mcgill university. he sent this to us a little bit earlier to add to our conversation about the impact of even a diplomatic boy court of the upcoming winter olympics. here is to generally speaking, the best approach is to mainstream human rights to make it a part of the relation that government has with china. so economic relations boycotting some goods produced by week was absolutely, but also the diplomatic boycott of the olympics, i think is a very interesting and effective approach for friends. and my call says that they would not join because it was nearly symbolic. and that, in fact is exactly the point, the olympics or symbolic they or part of this claim to be a central power in the world. so a diplomatic boy caught symbolically challenges,
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fath play. yes, i agree. i agree. because united states government announced china is coming genocide. and at the same time, if you send anybody diplomatic representation to china, so that would be supporting or legitimizing their actions against the leaders and also negating their decisions before the made in january. so it's a good decision then the many countries at least 7 countries followed yes, but according to the human rights activists and organizations and some other governments, for example, they also contemplating full blown by cod and the we, we want to see that as well. for example, this writer david class, he wrote that because of the international community failed. the 1936 fairly olympics that emboldened hitler and at the end
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o 60000000 innocent used their lives. so i'd have been stopped or pressured, the german government and turned their course this, this holocaust wouldn't have happened. so this author argues that there is a lot, a lot of parallel. so at the time, many western countries had a lot of comic interests in germany. so they didn't issue any full blown boycott at the time, so they're having the same interest right now. so maybe that's why they are not really boycotting dylan. pick fully that's, that's the argument. so this kind of argument has been there since this year that you can see a lot of places. yeah, i totally agree. i think 1st of all, china shouldn't be host in this game. they olympics are an expression of freedom,
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competition, and respect. and i think china's behavior does not represent any of those qualities . and instead they're carrying out to genocide, and we're actually allowing the world's highest profile event to be used to sports wash, genocide regimes, reputation. oh, i think the international olympic committee should be blamed for the situation actually, because they decided to allocate the winter games in gene, even though they knew that there's serious crimes are being committed by the chinese regime and students standing up for their own principals. the international olympic committee have chosen to keep their golden money on track. and i think in terms of the fact of the diplomatic breakout, it will be more efficient if more and more countries participates in those in those to try to quickly campaign. yeah. okay. yeah. several countries did already. i have
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so many new 2 questions for you guess? are you ready? all right, now we're going to do the the very far. so we can get as many in as possible. i'm going to start with the cheap coleman go straight to a law maker in the u. s. called marco rubio, and then come back to you guess so. standby for this. cuba who's watching online now. thank you. the only thing i'm wondering is whether or not using economic pressure is actually useful sanctions a use all the time. yet, besides doing, besides doing economic damage, they never seem to get much else done. okay, that's one view from youtube here, a mock a rubio with what he's hoping to do legally in the united states regarding force labor, have a listen havoc after months of working on this negotiation or having to play a little hard mall, my weaker force labor prevention act is, is going to become law. it's a common centreville that says if you make things in,
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she's young, then you need to prove that there is no slave labor involved in making it before you can bring that stuff into the united states. in other words, the proof is now on the businesses that the burdens on them to show that they are, that they are not operating using these work camps. and if you can't prove it, then your product doesn't enter the united states. it's that simple. so i hope and urge president biden to sign the bill into law immediately. it's time to end our economic addiction to china, and that starts by cracking down on slave labor. joe, i'll go ahead and yesterday at the house and senate finally made an agreement on the language of the of the, of this bill. and i can't wait for it to be passed up completely. and that's only the 1st step. the most vital step is been enforcement without enforcement, then it's all has not been just talk. yes. and if the bill can actually be passed by december by december 31st and of this year, that means by next summer there will be no products made by that. we have
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a region by the week where people will be allowed entering the us as long as, as except they can prove it, that it's with clear evidence that it's not made like we were forced labor. and i can't wait for that to happen. i so many more questions on you cheap. all right, motor. this one's coming to you florida says, i think the world has already felt the weak as they haven't been able to stop the c c p. you'll thoughts briefly yes, i think we were actually around the world have been doing so much to stop the genocide, this extra taste and the launch of the tribunal diplomatic boy culture of the vision olympics and the course they were prevention act and so much more. however, we do not see that the camped are closed, it's still there and there are still people reporting about their missing family members. and the recent report on people being killed and during interrogation in
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the camp and international branch i still benefit from for we were forced labor. so this means that we have a lot more to do. and the 1st labor production act and the verdict of the order shall be no goose. i hope it means that we're not alone in the fight. i'm going to bring in this thought here. this one is for you, ma'am. at john, it comes from the feet who is very sympathetic towards the chinese authorities. china is treated unfairly. she jammed protects the freedom of travel, of people, of all ethnic groups, including the week is, and that communication with overseas relative, according to the law. i know that guess here, i know that is not true. a fazio relatives are concerned, but have a listen here to the chinese foreign ministry who is pushing back on the sanctions that would just applied by the u. s. and then malik john pick up off the back. here we go. sure. on that you got,
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we are telling the united states that the chinese government is unwavering and its determination to defend national sovereignty, security and development interests. we are unwavering in our determination to combat violence, terrorism separatism, and religious extremists forces. we are unwavering in our determination to oppose any external interference in chin. jones affairs are china's internal affairs. the perverse actions of the united states cannot destroy the overall shape of shing jan's. development, stop china's progress or reverse the trend of historical development. we urge the u . s. to immediately withdraw the relevant wrong decision and stop interfering in china's internal affairs and harming china's interests. if the u. s. ox recklessly china will take effect of measures to strike back resolutely. oh, johnny doesn't sound like china a's acknowledging any of the external pressure that is being applied regarding the treatment of the week as in a sentence, sweat the end of the show. how would you respond? channel has been denying, for example, when we covered the detain,
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many where you get at least 120000 waiters in car. and before that they denied they had the internment camps. they call it. and after they interact with international pressure and international law, news media reports, they admitted they had this camps and they called it occasional vocational school war training center, job training centers. and at the end, right now we have found out that they are and b concentration camps. so it might take some time to china to really admit what they're doing in the region is wrong, and they're committing genocide and i have one more voice because that question i asked, what is the point this child respond is onset by this my no voice in our conversation have a, let me know for a fact that inclination of pressure where you works. this is the only me that was
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stop china from continuing to commit genocide again, the story of people. this pressure may not immediately change the conditions on the ground, but it is putting china on defensive. first, they deny everything, makes the change the subject. and now they often forced to defend their atrocities for the government, the un, and in front of the whole world. we need to continue pressure from all sides. it is the only way to bring genocide plant. thank you. guess for helping us understand the situation with the we has in china right now and the internal and external pressure that is being applied. joe har, ma'am at john, i more time. i appreciate you being part of the strain today and on you tube. your questions were very helpful. thank you for having that conversation with us. hey,
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