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hello and welcome to the program. hashem abala livia was among the out of spring nations and says the revolution topple the government a decade ago. it has not no peace or political stability, but after months of arduous negotiations and international mediation, there were fresh hopes for the future. warring signs, signed a un sponsored, seized by deal, formed a unit, a government and agree to hold elections on december. went to the 4th of the had of the electoral commission has now dissolved all electoral committees just days before polling stations were due to open. now the future for libya is again unclear, and the peace plan hangs by a threat. malik trina has this reports from the capital tripoli. we're just a few days away from the scheduled 1st round of presidential elections in libya and it's becoming clear that the vote will be delayed. but there hasn't been

a government institution, or any senior officials that have been willing to announced the postponement or the, the electoral commission, the high national electoral commission has said that is the parliament's responsibility to announce, or the postponement. the parliament has turned back and said, no, it's the electoral commission that should come and tell the libyan people a wide. there was a postponement. and there's also been a lot of controversial figures are that have at that have put in their bid to become up to running the presidential elections, including safer slamming duffy while market duffy 2nd son. he's wanted by the international criminal court or for crimes against humanity. or you have collie for after an eastern libya who's also been accused of war crimes in his failed attempt to capture the triple to capture the capital tripoli militarily. and you have prime minister abdul hamid baber, the current prime minister, who when he took on the position sub assigned a promissory note,

note that he wasn't going to run for elections out. so for now what's clear is that these elections aren't going to happen. and we're waiting for an official announcement announcement by the electoral commission or the parliament mal china for inside story. we'll bring in our guess in a moment, but 1st, let's take a look at how we got to this point. libya has been in turmoil since an uprising toppled mar mcgaffey in october, 2011. in the years after that different political groups backed by international powers, competed mostly through violence to gain control in 2015 the government of national accord. the ga, was formed based in tripoli in the west and were backing from the united nations. it was man to serve as an interim government and did libya out of his turmoil. but the following year, the torak based administration in the east bath by the walls,

halley for after voted against a proving the dna and corporation between both ends of libya, broke down. since then, there have been years of war and attempts by hafta to take control of the capital by force. finally, and after months of un back negotiations, the 2 sides agreed on a cease fire in march and warmed a duty to government pending elections this month. ah lettering in august, joining us from paris is most of our fate, tory journalist who specialist in libya, politics from london. and i think about the general director of libya based thing tank. saw that institute from kuwait. yes. me, it has now an expert in north africa affairs and board member with the institute of saharan studies. a lender, as thank you for joining us, must offer the general feeling was that basically it went to the 4th of december was going to be the culmination of a mammoth task that started years ago. there would have been the way for

presidential elections and that was going to be the moments when people were going to say violence and instability is over. that is not happening anymore. when i 1st small house and thank you for having me. you. all right, it's not happening anymore. and even if a last minute dash, you jumped off somehow by the local actors or to national actors. in this case, it would be quite difficult. logistically speaking, as well as legally the election commission has failed so far too. but just to find a list of the contestants of the breast that election as well as it was dean i'm. it was required by law to give them some time to can be something like 2 weeks time to come in for the elections. and that never, that time never, never been granted as well. did the permission to do so to do the campaigning.

i mean has never been given by the commission, so there is no election 24th of december. that's for sure. unless the commission, the election commission had dissolved all the local committees, the decision to delay the election, was it purely a domestic issue? do you think international intervention plays a role here? i think it goes, as i say, libya is, has become a theater for great power competition. i'm not all the decisions that are taken by, even like electors are indeed for local reasons. and i think that's where so much of this of today's kind of conundrum of deciding whether or not people have elections, which of the living institutions are gonna be in the deciding kind of been the driving. see that decision that tells you a lot about that is history with foreign actors. many of the of the local actors themselves that were responsible for, for fighting. and the last several years were actually mercenaries who didn't hold the emblem of either doing faction or even an international veteran. working on

behalf of international actors. that's just a symptom of the wider kind of interference in this process. and what comes to the root of this is that the actual sequence of events since january 2020, since the berlin process that decided that was going to be an end to the conflict and the beginning of a new chapter. so much international difference that can place the local actors, as you rightly mentioned, the electoral commission has oh, it's local committees, but it's just the chris or the crest of the tide. i mean, it's really not of the way. it's not really the, you know, that the deeper and dentist symptoms of what's been going on for several weeks, many of the factors come to, to, to measure by the new actors that emerge. except that there is destructive to the kind of settlement that many international actors have been trying to preside over a to, to horse race, not a 3 horse race. the actual supreme court has been mutes for several months, but years in fact, and has now been re shaped and reassembled. ok brought a for,

but if it comes out and get relational the candidates asked to get to touch on the process, there are so many it unfolds the foundations of the collection that we can just label that just to open responsibility at what commission. yes. mean, should we be concerned about what's next for libya? well, actually, 1st of all, anyone who has been following the libyan conflict can definitely can easily pinpoint for steve and say that that's a good question. the very possibility of conducting fair and transparent election. and this is your, 1st of all, to several devices figures the candidacy of eastern military, achieve her health. tar and save the duffy. both accused war positions from, you know, right. and can still, there is and also because of the lack of agreement over the power of the next government, we have a series of books of, you know, of, of, of the obstacle. so i think that in terms of, you know,

on the ground the, you know, the, in terms of the situation of the ground, there are many libyans citizens themselves won't be elections. they want to vote. they did not, they did not want to vote on a specific date. these people did not sign up tunes on the, on or on a specific base. so i think that, you know, i would call it a technical delay of the election is not something that we caused significant such attention at the level of the population as it might called. however, tension and maneuvering at the level of the not only the political or clock but also the, the arm of the groups. so the fight is now over the, the electoral process for, for whoever controls what happens next. so i think that whatever have been done by, of the represent you and representative stephanie needs to continue. but i would

put it really as, as, as a technical, as a technical director most of was it a main may just failure. all the legal institutions of libya, they said to some candidates, you won't be able to run for the presidential elections because you don't meet the standards or you have pending legal issues and then they were reinstated. and then we boyd down to meeting the deadline of december 20, the 4th, something terribly wrong happened. and then they decided, you know what, it's better for the been not to go for presidential elections when i don't to, i don't really i house and see it as a failure at the judiciary in the country. because these disease actually helped her concerned about this or other survey and shouldn't have any need anything to do with this business except for the legal wrangling that have taken place early on this stage of a candidate submitting deal hires to the commission for the,

for the presidential election and the other side also, we have seen d. c, u. 2 courts, and at least in 2 cases, the case of receiver is lambs and mr. hurry, rafter to certain extent and zoe. it also played a role nicely and quietly, despite the hurdles the they faced, especially in sub our judges could not access to court building for a few days, but they did find that here. and then they decided what should be done. i mean, they decided they are legally speaking, which is darrell or save. it is now more mr. gary does not have mr. after does not have a problem is running for the court. if they have some kind of legal problems, i don't think those. i don't think those judges, you know, said or gave them the green light would have, hasn't they could to give them the red light. so the issue does,

she should be of the dispute and the other side, you know, on the other day, it's not the job of design this year. the country to decide ballistic li, if this candidate is the advisor figure or not, or you get, he actually governed the country once. if he went to the election, it's not their business. what is happening now? and they tried to, you know, the different local political actors, they're trying to blame. did you, she were by default was in my thinking is shared that is shared between the clock action commission as well as the bottom into a bust. some laws that have been cook his eyes as clo, okay. and as yes the you and said it was coastal for libya to have breast thus elections. yes, the international community said it was paramount for stability in the country. but when you end up having 3 key players at baber hafta and safety is lamar of

their fi, people would pretty much concerned that the winner most likely was just going into further tear apart libby as its better not to have elections than to have elections with defies of figures will, is the only thing those decides those devices because as you rightly mentioned, that bring the prospect 2 of them certainly because they are military figures or miniature triggers use tribes. so for the summer, good afternoon and kind of after based on the bring the prospect of more and more peace and to go back to what your other guess was sort of study was saying about the court. the court is not there to decide whether or not that particular acceptable. the court is that to decide whether it be acceptable, whether or not they are criminals. and in both cases and all 3 cases, there's good evidence to suggest that all of them have committed various crimes at different natures. so for the slam has been coming and has been found guilty of censure to go 2015 for his road in 2011 and a half. there has been a,

as left libya covered in crime scene tape over the last several years. i mean, there are still mass graves that are being uncovered, but i think anyone is under the illusion that he was not responsible for acre, his own forces have been sharing those things on facebook, on social media for years. and, and, and with the baby also has financial questions around his role in pdf from the beginning of the year, but also how he amassed and his class billions over several years. but the real question today is whether and also the 2nd part is that the parliament hasn't passed along. the angela hasn't passed the law, the cheap speaker of the law of the, of the following. again, a solar and alloy of hon if after he passes on lou, we're not going to call them. and so when it comes to the idea of not only who these candidates are in the divisive nature, it's not just that these conditions. can you set a piece? there are no conditions and in fact conducive to democracy. you have no constitutional basis in a country with a legacy for strong men who never li, power and use violence to stay in power. the 2nd aspect is, is that the presiding over a divided states,

which is entirely absurd because you can elect someone to be your president. but it does presided over a subservient state. those are presided over a military. that is gonna accept that command and that orders, these are, this is military factions that decide which quite they want to ebay and not the state that they want to obey. so it also makes no sense. or i'm a stapleton perspective and especially not given in january 2020 they began estate building versus what was supposed the culminate with elections not begin with elections. or the real question i have today is nora. she's being delayed or postponed for political expedients, or to have candidates grown candidates, divisive or less divisive. it's what kind of state do you want to bring in? is this gonna usher in this process today? or in 2 weeks or in 22 years or even 2 decades, would usher in a democracy, would allow libyans to fulfill the democratic rights, or would it rob them of the democratic, right? because today, it sounds more like that that would be rob, at the democratic one. yes. mean the international community was hoping to have

presidential elections that would bring about some one that would ultimately unify levia. when you look at the profile of the 3 candidates, it says very much clear. no one would be able to unify a libya has been divided for quite some time. well, actually since november 2020 the, when the decision was made to have the elections on december 24th, the initial plan was to hold the presidential and parliamentary election on the same day. but we're talk about the international community over the last year that they have become something i would put it as a holy grail. the international focus on these, on these elections in a way that was, that was quite striking as there were little little, very little discussion. very little thoughts on what would lead to look like at both elections. there were, did not mentions of these people. i mean,

from europe in perspective, it has been very interesting to see how the europeans have been. i would say back, lynn, for relevance is after half our field trip the tripoli offensive. and we have also chords the french and italian coming together. but i think what is important, what is more important. it's not was that we see how turkey and russia, which are still the main, you know, external power, a power brokers inside leave ya. what has been really happening is really interesting. in the last few days, we have seen countries that have been you know, constantly dropping references to december 24th, whether you know, in their announcement or public public and not public known for an ottoman. so there has been a very, you know, not just to defer the firm in the new, you know, in language. but what is interesting earlier this week is that look how, you know,

the foreign minister of russia. he said that most go would not have any problems in delay and you know, elections if that means that the elections, what would happen an effective way? so in fact, russia is the only international player so far that has come out and, and said something about those, those elections. i think that national community did not mention much these people rather than, you know, there were not, they felt that, you know, the international leave yet is not ready for the in the meantime, for a full, for the election. yes, most offer. in the meantime, should the into government step in to prevent any power vacuum. libya? well, that's very difficult question. yeah, there is a lot of debate about the the issue for having the different government then the, the, the current one, which will be a caretaker government. but then you have to have that for you to have time to have

different government. and 1st of all, when has to be commonly accepted widely accepted. and then i don't think that was an easily today the information i'm getting from a cabinet itself. there is a lot of mobilize ation of malicious arm admonishes, with a huge armaments around different parts of the city, especially western bots, of the city and east and wanted the cities as well. as mr. les bear has gained some popularity true, you know, you've used ways and may suspect, you know, or accused him of wasting public money in his own election campaign. and because of that bubble, larkey has created some kind of a base for him. and he moving game. now without actually having to precise a b n as to what is the next goal will be quite difficult thing to do. that could just bark, you know, something like and turn and fight among the subordinate issues themselves that support mr. baber. currently, especially those in the garbage that internally ok,

and of course as an instructor base is one on us. the rationale behind this whole political process was basically following the these premises. first of all, to bridge the divide, we need to have a national unity government. and then we have to have a presidential council hoping that when they will have a president who it will be to strong men of libya, that would be the way for parliamentary elections. and that would have vibrant political parties taken over. and that democracy will prevail, olivia, that's not happening any time. so do you have any concern that's good? paved the way for more anaki in a place like libya. let's think we have to have a sequence process that tackles the reasons why many of the actors can go to war. there's no danger of someone like said for the semi good duffy or helicopter the 2 that have an authoritarian legacy in libya, of becoming authoritarians. if the institutions themselves are not owned by their tribal can buy their children, as has been the case now, but leave off their or set for the slams brothers as they previously control the

army. if you have an institution that is neutral, then you're ok, and that's what really needs to happen. it's not about libyans themself. one to go to with each other. it's the capacity to bring war because, or, and states are backing you in the case of many of the actors that, but a slam today is russia, for, after has been russia, the united arab emirates in france. but you know, i mean, the baby i would say has the same capacity to wage war. no, i would agree with someone i was with what has mentioned in terms of his capacity to, to just convert throughout, using populism and using money that has been badly spent over the last year. but all of those things aside are just distractions. the real reports here is that the militia formations themselves are not going to be unified. if we have a political unit, government, or combination of 3 or a little bit of a little bit of west a little bit. so it doesn't work that way. the reality on the ground is that the military factions that came to an agreement in october 20th, we had to stop fighting under the un. i have not bridge that advice to unify under a subservient state. then libya is going to have another war. ok, respect to that,

whether you have elections the day tomorrow or in it, that the proof is going to be in the pudding. and i think unless they prioritize the state building and the neutralization of house pointers, can follow the political military process and drag libya back to war. then we're always going to be asked why one. i would argue that we've never left swear one. yes, mean, in the mean time i'm waiting for the authorities to come back again and say we have elections shadow for january, february, or march. do you think that the militia as a foreign troops, the mess in a raise the war laws tribesman, those who have benefited from because libya will use this for more political leverage? of course, dear. well, but business as usual is no longer an option. i mean, it will be very delusional to believe that a smooth transition to democracy through trans burns and for elections is possible . why these people, this 1000, the foreign forces and mercenaries are still room in the country. so that's why we're speaking about it. if, if it, if it is a technical, the delay,

be it as long as there are these $1004.00 in mercenary. i think that the situation will stay the same. so only when going mercenaries and forces are compelled to, to leave county, to regain its, its sovereignty and hope to recover from it. so, you know, definitely to pin paid long war. so besides the, you know, the disastrous consequences that this scenario would have on the wellbeing and livelihood of, of the people on the, on the, you know, you know, viability of libya as being dependent. and i think per long and per login. the conflict will look like the ground for the islamic state and other terrorists, really, less than a minute. most of our do you think that the device that we've been talking about for quite some time east west, is now becoming more of a divide between east, where you have half the west, where you have international recognized government south where you have good lucky loyalists. when i'm not sure but division is always there. and then the point of to

was a bit of, you know, you know, somebody as president good unified, the country that will never have it in the, in the short time or even in 10 years time. the countries give you the find it because of politics mainly and because of the forum into various of course, from fall bowers where, you know, are there going to be a rush to war for example, or something like this? i don't think, i don't think there will be, there is no home that nobody's interested in the war and now, but that does not be, it is not an option on the table right now. and as i said, mobilization is quite high ranking today. thank you. with i'm denise walker good. it, it, quite interesting to look into the different elements of the libyan puzzle stuff. they told me about the us, me and i really appreciate your insight. thank you to for watching it and see the program again. any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com for further discussion goes our facebook page. that's facebook

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