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driving those sorts of things, like many technologies that have burge and in recent decades, f r t is largely unregulated in september, a united nations report singled out a i enabled f r t as posing special threats to human rights. the un human rights chief, michelle boj, a lead called on member states to issue an immediate moratorium on artificial systems until researchers fully assess what she called the catastrophic risks they pose rob reynolds al jazeera. ah, your child is there with me. so he'll robin and doha reminder of our top new stories, new york escaping back, it's same as the yours 8th celebrations. the cities, the epicenter of the alma con outbreak in the u. s. president biden has pledged to send 500000000 cove at 19 tests across america to ease the shortage. the u. k.
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france in italy have reported record numbers of infections as cases continue to search in europe and data from the u. case health security agencies, as people with all micron are up to 70 percent less likely to be admitted to hospital thousands of people a fling. attacks along me amongst border with thailand, artillery and asteroids have had areas near the ty, town of may salt. mammals, military is targeting rebels from the current ethnic minority that one of several ethnic groups wanting greater autonomy. the conflict has escalated since the military coup. last february, at least 37 people have died after a very cold fire in bangladesh. dozens of people have suffered injuries rescue teams managed to save some passengers, but local forces say, the death toll is likely to rise. the ferry was over crowded with as many as 500 people. a former us police woman has been found guilty of manslaughter for killing a black man during a traffic stop in minnesota. kimberly porter short 20 roll dante right. last april
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she said that she mistakenly fired her gun instead of her taser. john henry has more from minneapolis. this was a very closely watch trial here throughout the united states. because dante wright was shot during the middle of another trial of a white police officer who killed a black man. that was police officer derek showman, who knelt on the neck of george floyd, ultimately killing him. in this case, kim potter stood, was almost impassive. simply lowered her head when each of those verdicts was read . she now has been taken immediately into custody and is already at a prison here in the state of minnesota, south korea government as part of the former president part good, hey, who's been serving a 22 year prison sentence for corruption? the justice ministry says the decision to release her after almost 5 years behind bars is to help heal national divisions. those were the headlines of the back with
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more news and half law next all out there is the stream. ah, ah, the high answer me okay. on this episode of the stream, we're looking at what we learned living through that corona virus pandemic this year, and how it might help us as we had it in 22022. we have a team of medical professionals standing by to answer your questions. we start with
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my dad because the 1900 pandemic, has had a significant impact on all of our life instruction to daily life from the mental health and passing illness and our community and our own families to the economic and international impact of travel has been so significant, we'd also have good public health policy. this includes putting on a math with community transmission and high physical distance thing, having testing available at all time. really important that we have these resources to everybody that needs it. and then 3rd, we have good risk in science communication and ongoing basis. we need to inform people what is happening and how they need to change their behavior as things continue to evolve. the big question we're asking on this episode is, can we beat corona virus in 2022? what do we need to do that we need to, margaret dot ahmed. and so it's a nice, i guess for today. nice to see all 3 of you tomorrow. but will you introduce yourself to international audience? tell them who you are. what a day. good evening i'm a doctor, but i've also been
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a journalist and i work for the world health organization. and my job really is to inform you about what you can do to protect yourself from all kinds of health threats. but in the last 2 years, it's really been coded coded coded. dr. ahmad is always good to have you here on the screen. thanks. making time, remind our audience he you are what you day. thanks for having me for my name's alma to army doctor. i'm a journalist in london. it to have you and daughter, an aunt always get to see you as well please. we want our audience, he while what you day. thanks for me. good to be on the show. hi everyone. i'm. i'm a medical doctor, a recent ball in central india. and i'm an associate biometrics, global health and health policy. all right, so any p a c string for the stream did i use them? okay, we have so many great resources for you right here. you on you cheap, you've got concerns, you have questions, pop them,
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right hand to the comment section. i will do my best to put them right into today's show. i'm actually going to start with a question that came via twitter margaret. we're going to make you work straight away. this one came from a doctor. doctor douglas says, as the family was me, tates when transmitted, is there a possibility that a new variant will be more transportable than other chron more deadly than delta and resistant to current immune responses? is that possible? that is, unfortunately possible, and that is the worst case scenario. so that's exactly why we have been begging the world to be fair about distribution of vaccines because we need to get the people who are likely to get be sickest protected. because when somebody sick for a long time, that's when there's the opportunity for these mutations to occur. i'm going to play a small report from one of our correspondence, courtney barker, who was pulling from london
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a day or so ago. this is what he shared with us ahmed levy to come off the back of that report. as my concerns are really about an h s staff and burn out his me festival with case is doubling every 2 days. health experts warm the vaccination effort needs to reach people who haven't had a single dose. that's an estimated one point. 3000000 in london. maybe millions more across the country. analysis shows poor younger, more, ethnically diverse communities. our lease protected, the more people get sick, the more critical services could soon be in trouble. there currently somebody start with one london hospital, frost through a downward cove and away from work for they've had to drop in extra help from elsewhere. just a mom, the hospital accident and emergency unit and so that's a possible risk of a certain number of people ending up in hospital suffering with the omicron variant . and the country's national health service could soon be overwhelmed.
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yes. has just been as quite difficult because when you do catch co video and you might not feel that by yourself as maybe a young doctor, you still have to take the time of work which put strain on your colleagues because they're not having to work almost extra hours like one on a one daughter who finished this just a thing for him and was called back in straight way to get back and talk to the finance just because there was no senior doctor around 3rd supervisor junior doctors. so it becomes unsafe when you happen to work in situations like that where your particular time making life saving decisions. and it becomes almost a strain where you have to pick up other people's other people's work. so i should be the cove, it itself that's making you say can being able to work well. it's just the fact that you have to take time off paying extra strain on a course the strength and understaffed health service. i'm just thinking of those images that we saw from india 2nd wave earlier this year that was deeply
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distressing. and shocking out of that 2nd way. what did india learn? what are you going into the new year? with what tools do you have now? for me yesterday plus, you know, very troubling time as you were actually saying, you know, a lot of distress, lot of 3 of the health system to be able to cope with the increasing number of cases. fortunately since then, i think we've been able to ramp up our health services to extend our testing levels have gone up. our testing interest actually has gone up in the us. i'm fairly well on the vaccination side as well. you know, there's a lot of ground to cover, but that having being said, you know, new radians bring their own challenges and i think the new one would hope that be better prepared to be able to handle any kind of b now so far has been ok you're not seeing the kind of, you know, that increase that we're seeing in other parts of the world. but the festive season
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ahead could actually be given a lot of people are traveling on and meeting each other. and matthew said, sir, public health, missouri seems not to be adhered to. the extent one would like. so it's, it's going to be tough times ahead, but hopefully we will be able to call you more. and then as well, because lately saying, the most important issue here is to ensure, let me quickly not just in india, went across the world, the more people we get vaccinated, the more vulnerable individuals we are able to predict. so i think we will all be in a much better state. i'm so cutting mates in vaccine in equity. i'm margaret, you can definitely jump in here. i really want to hear your thoughts. there is something that i saw recently, and i was truly, truly shot. it was astrazeneca in a tape, in nigeria because it had expired, and there was a plan for this. there was kovacs or even if he were the richest nation, there was a plan, so that some vaccines could go to countries. he might not have the purchasing power
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. mago, i'm going to saying what went wrong. you can challenge me if you want to know it's heartbreaking and robot wrong was nigeria was sent doses by donor countries that were just about to expire. and bacteria is not the only country i've just come back from afghanistan. i spent a month there and they were racing to, to vaccinate people with, again, it was johnson and johnson. and it was about to expire when they received doses in august, september that were about to expire in november. they managed to vaccinate their mesh to do it, which is incredible, given particularly the circumstances they're struggling with with all the other things. but there are so many countries in there. so 1st of all, they're waiting, they don't know when they're gonna get the vaccines. they don't know what they're going to get and they don't know what the expiry date is. and then suddenly, of course, it comes to us suddenly we've got these doses,
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and here they are. and you know it quickly, quickly, quickly resume and, and ideally assign. i don't think it was, oh, code x m donation say hi. i managed to get through the ones i got from kovacs, but the problem is they received vaccines at the senshi were within a week. oh, by the time they're on the comic. yeah. yeah. let me, let me, let me just, i had a donation, but yeah, let me just let me just play a little bit of this because i am sure of you is when you say your b as, as a grieved, as, as i was when i, i saw beautiful boxes of vaccine, just put on to the tape. lets take a look. the grandmother of health officials and journalists watched us more than a 1000000 doses of expired astrazeneca vaccine were crushed. he destroyed for accidents were part of the massive shipment of more than 2000000 doses received in october if to mission from developed nations. by november,
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many of them had expired. we accepted vaccine in an environment where despite the interest, despite consorted air force by the federal government to procure these vaccines disruptions were not available in the open market. if you want to go, because they had largely be mobbed by the wealthier nations and we had no choice. huh. to accept this vaccines with shortsale life and at atheist things that we felt the ethics task, there was a world like supporting our, our fellow countries. we failed that we got an f thoughts. absolutely, you know, i mean in this kind of a situation where everybody's going to make a now close to 2 years that we have to depend on vaccine chastity. not maxine justice vaccine equal to u. d. p troubling, you know, if we don't understand that sorted out, it is the at the heart of any response to abandon me that we are all protected when everyone is protected. it is not by being nationalistic about us. about being
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narrow minded about your response. if you're going to protect your citizens, because we've seen radiance travel, the right us has traveled, you know, there's, there's just no way of stopping the spread unless everyone is protected. so actually it isn't everyone's interest, including countries themselves to be able to work with other countries to ensure that everyone is protected. and you know, margaret emma would agree with me on this to be actually field is a world in this. and if i have, i'm hope for you to it does that we would have on this and we would do better. i think what we need to remember about all this is unfortunately we live in this, i guess it's a capitalistic society where money kind of controls the rules that we go around. and you know, a couple of years ago, there was a famous ceo of a pharmaceutical company to raise the price of a life state and drug by 6000 percent in america. and when he was to on trial response, he gave was, this is a capitalistic society. i want to make money,
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this is why i did it. and that's the same thing we're seeing with these vaccines again. so the defies vaccine is on cost to be the most lucrative drug of 2022. and it's already been the most lucrative of 2021. well, i think they were predicted to receive around $26000000000.00 just the pfizer. despite that, they decided to do a price hike a couple months ago for the 5 devices. so we turn around and say, you know, we should have a district to be a charity box in charge of. the problem is that we live in a society which promotes not promotes people who do money hoarding wealth. and yes, what we have to remember is 5 vaccine was actually developed through public funds. so trump, when he was president, he actually provided funds with, with, with government government money to be able to develop diversity. so it's unfortunate that despite this money coming from public funds, it's not being returned to the public for the world we have and i think it's important to, oh, sorry, yeah. you know,
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he doesn't wanna go. it's really important to also say we never intended it to be a charity and it's very, very wrong. i keep pianists are rich countries giving to poor countries. the whole point of the kovak, system, and system. we set up with many rich nations, but with basically nations around the world was to have a system by which we could roll out vaccines in an orderly way to the highest priority groups at exactly the same time. that was the agreement. that was the understanding. it wasn't about charity, it was purely about margaret in so and so we doing better now because everyone's been talking about vaccine inequity for a year. right? almost a year. now, are we doing better now? where city no vaccine is coming out. so we've managed to reach the 800000 dose, rolled out, but worldwide 8. no half 1000000000 doses have been rolled out. and there are 16
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times more doses given i think, 16 times more boost does. i haven't got the numbers in front of me. well, boost has been given in wealthy countries than primary doses getting into the country, still failing to vaccinate. so, and those are decisions as a programmatic decisions being made by wealthier countries. yeah, and we're not seeing hoarding yet, but we're very, very concern. but those are the decisions are still going to continue to ski, skid, the supply. so we're still struggle to get those primary doses into people's arms. one more thoughts. i think that the, yeah, can't go on it. and then i move on on in terms of the boosters like the visor c o 2 weeks ago said to combo mac one, we're going to try before to stop. so that's also promoting growth your nations from punch trying to purchase more of the boxes, which i think we don't have the resource to tell us. how about on is does wise to work with our data. but just him saying that increase the shows off. eyes are increasing sharp, our supplies are unwelcome, more punches in water emissions. so it is a difficult thing to navigate. all right,
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so one more thing on this and i'm pushing us on because you have to look ahead to 2022 as well. hands. he's watching right now says it's shameful that so much of the world is on vaccinated considering this is me adding on to considering how much science has been done, which is where i want to go to next, which is the science that has been done so quickly m ringing derek low. he's a drug discovery researcher who basically flags. what's happened this year and what's going to be exciting next year when we look at the pandemic? yes. one part of the good news is that vaccine production is continuing to go up. another part is that this coming year, we should have at least 2 more vaccines, new ones coming all we have to distribute those around the world, deep into a lot of countries and get our distribution networks up to speed. one other thing
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is that there's a new pill or protease inhibitor, which is much easier to make than the vaccines and is already being licensed to generic companies around the world. so i hope that helps to, we're in a completely new era with all micron. but vaccines, i think, are still the way that the world gets out of this pandemic. and i just hope that 2022 is the year that we say that we got out of it. i don't what takes us into a puzzle territory and india is often known as the pharmacy of the wild. you make so many of these vaccines for many drugs. how are you feeling looking tag into 2022 . are the scientists really doing a story? knowing what that is gonna help us out of where we are right now. absolutely. you know, they've done taylor work. i mean, there's no doubt at all that the kind of science we've seen over the last 2 years has really shown that when you know, when you get to it, when there is
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a conducive environment and support from garment from other stakeholders from regulators, you can actually make things happen. the fact that we have seen the fact that we managed to do multi national clinical trials with literally thousands of patients in bel under. they are just shows that progress as possible. and you know, countries like india 30, which of the manufacturing capacity can help support a larger availability of drugs data predicts maxine, but for that i think globally, we have to agree that the priority should not be profits. the parity should not be intellectual property. the party has to be sorted attitude. the parity has to be, you know, just global helps and ensuring that as will be cool, better with this find the make. and if we can get that sorted out at various levels than i think there is an article for 2022. and what i mean so hopefully far is that this experience teaches us that many other diseases still need solutions. we can get a scientists together, focus on those problems. the same urgency as we have seen for would now go,
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i'm going to share a couple of headlines with our audience and you can see them here on my laptop. i want to ask you what you and the w h a thing in terms of find advancement and how fast it's happening. us army, create single vaccine against all covered and solved variance researches say the f d a. the food and drug administration that from the us authorizes antiviral pill as 1st approved at home treatment for cove. it as a game changer, potentially. pfizer agrees to allow generic versions of its covert pill. one more headline here, research is developing process to store code 1900 vaccines at room temperature. that is really got to help with developing nations. margaret, what are you seeing that gives you hope in terms of and the back. i seen tremendous things right? actually from the beginning, we only knew the size existed for
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a few weeks before the scientists all came together already with ideas about how we were going to solve this problem. i remember being in a room with scientists from all around all zooming in because they are in other countries, not because of it at the time. and they were talking about what they knew so far about the sa virus is what vaccines were possibly in the making. how on earth you would structure the studies and are sharing it, didn't matter what country they were from the older term to get on top of it and fast forward 10 months later we had vaccines. we had vaccines going into people's arms. that's never happened. it's unprecedented. we also had huge observe trial assigned to studying all the different drugs that were available ready to see if there was something we already had that could work. not much did work, but we found that steroids did. and, and of course, as you've mentioned, we now have a whole range of different treatments. antivirals,
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we've got the immune alone, logical treatments, a whole range of treatments that did not exist were not there that we now have so well the scientific world has stood up together in solidarity. i would just like other parts of the human race to, to, to share that kind of solidarity. i mean, i've got a couple, couple of thoughts for you from, from you chip, which i'd really love you to engage with. javier says many people, wait until that dest or to demand the medical community, do everything to save them. this is about prevention, lessening demand for health care, thoughts on that one? yeah, i think it's a really difficult question to be honest, because obviously we restarted once freedoms and things like that. but when it comes to something as simple as putting on a face mask as it is quite literally a cloth from your oil, just for a few minutes that you're on public transport with someone or going to a public venue. why is it so difficult for people to understand that you're right, people who suddenly demand as soon as they're about to die,
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they want to be intimate and they want to get to the you, they want the emergency medications. some people are going off of the vaccine was on the bed towards be an apartment. i mean, is that have you ever heard? yeah, no, i didn't. i remember one time this is i ended up being on, on a bus once and there was a guy wearing a face not wearing the face miles. and i just told you mind just just lifting up. and he turned around to me and this was in the us with the turn around me and said you liberals like you're supported by that and all this stuff. and this is under discussion related to politics, the science or anything like that. it's purely to do with even even if for example, somebody was using a word so i didn't like, and they told me to stop using what respect i would just simply respect, you know, someone's uncomfortable this to myself. it's not that difficult, mr. short period. so that kind of stuff, i don't understand fully and i do think that needs to be more done to be able to support ourselves in terms of being able to do that. i've never seen myself,
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somebody off the vaccine, but i've seen that i've read the article there just wanted to 1st who was asked who she wrote an article. i think it was a chicago trucks idea. who was, she said, a number of patients i, she was going to intimate them walking for the vaccine. and unfortunately, it's way too late. that one wants to that 6 boxes isn't going to do anything to help. so jeannie says, the politics of ruin, people getting faxed in the united states politics lead to the population here, i believe in other countries as well, which will let us shameful. so we've had an incredible leadership from scientists and policy makers there, probably somewhere behind that. i'm saying diplomatically here, the 1st time that we all she to be on the stream. you had lines on your face from the mouth that you've been wearing you. it was crisis mode. how are you treating people who now have cove it in hospital?
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what advances would be made in treatment that going into 20 to 20 to your not necessarily in crisis mode or are you still? i think it's a few different aspects to that question. number one, i don't think we're on crisis moved as much as we were before. even though we're recording record numbers of the vaccine was almost one is not bad or various other things. it's an issue where we're not actually seeing that many come into a q b on well, the other thing is we haven't really made that many treatment advances. the treatment is to provide oxygen if they need ventilation each bed vents and it's just a lot more streamlined. we kind of know the numbers of oxygen levels with touch, your targeting, that kind of stuff. so from that perspective, it's a lot more streamlined. and then, you know, giving the steroids, the recommended doses and things like that happens. you know, what's happening before before was kind of guessing go. whereas now it's almost
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like we kind of know the basics as to what's going to what there are some new drugs are coming on. medications possibly my work when no, still using them. yeah. and the acute phase we're using them and patients i being treat at home. whether or not that will improve in the acute phase later, might be a potential for us to benefit from show. i'm reading your face and your face seems more hopeful for 2022 from the previous faces that we have when we talked about corona virus and that you as well, you're looking much more helpful than previous conversations. that's something that we've got a hold on. now, but how we fix the biggest challenge is in 2022. that is still to be determined. dr. margaret dots all night talk to a night. thank you so much for your conversation and for your advice and your guidance, really appreciate it. going to go to youtube one more time. i had some question was, can we be corona virus in 2022 edition on youtube says it's going to be 5
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years. oh my goodness, 5 more years, a stream shows about corrode a virus brace yourself. thank you. very much guess really appreciate you. i will see you next time. thanks for watching. ah, [000:00:00;00] in the listening post cuts through the noise. let's hope you're not competing now with the monday. so it's being used to perpetuate those competing narrative separating spin from fuck all 3 versions of the story and some elements of the truth. but the full story remains and coaching, unpacking the stories you're being told, it's not
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