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additional right wing, valero, because, and so the game is far more open, that it seems that the axis of french politics has moved to the right, dominated by issues like immigration, and to succeed mac kron will have to move with it. but like previous power, couples with political differences. think coal meter, all she rec, schroeder, that's no reason to think sholtes and mccomb can't see eye to eye on europe and the world. joe, to hold al jazeera at paris ah . with al jazeera and these are the top stories south africa are observing a week of morning for the nobel peace prize. laureate desmond tutu, he rose to prominence in the 1980s as an opponent of parties during white minority rule. he was 90 years old. his family to miller with mo, from k time. what his key is, is just really the humanity that the archbishop oh,
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is described by in that he didn't want a big show around his parsing and even he, his death. but it could simply can't be avoided given who he was, so they will be a state funeral on friday. we do expect people to come out thousands of people to come out to observe that just given how well respected desmond to, to is in south africa and globally, somalis, prime minister mohammed has, and rabo says his suspension is a violation of the constitution and the country's laws, president mohammed, blah, he from archer accused the prime minister of corruption. already both men, president and prime minister, were choosing each other of delaying somalis parliamentary elections. israel's governments, as it plans to double the number of jewish settlers in the occupied golan heights from 25 to 50000 gallon, was seized by israel from syria in the 1967 war, and then annexed in 1981. such loving in northeastern brazil's lead to the deaths
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of 18 people in it's affecting more than 400000 officials say the state of barajas received 5 times it's average rainfall for december. protesters in iraq have blocked the roads, leading up to the federal court in the capital, baghdad, supporters of the iranian back sheer groups of filed an appeal against the electoral commission after suffering heavy losses in october elections. the sheer clerk from federal service movement won the most seats. the federal court is now deliberating over the case studies most popular state new south wales is recorded, its 1st death linked to the omicron variant of covey. 19 testing sites across australia been overwhelmed, and hospital and cities apologized after it's sent out wrong results to almost a 1000 people. and with that, you're up to date with the headlines up front is next. i did 19 is a public health crisis that has been compounded by capitalism. alleyway navigates
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the big questions raised by the global pandemic power. the system based on private ownership will see the profit. so the world in a ton of capitalism is the pandemic. so much of the suffering exploited, we take the people or the profit episode, one of all hail the look down on out is there with an increase in hate crimes, incendiary rhetoric in the media and public discourse around protections for transgender people becoming more hostile will examine what's behind rising transfer in the united kingdom and what the future holds for the struggle for trans, right? but 1st, i domestic violence, salary deaths and fans aside and honor killing to rape and murder. women and india are subjected to some of the most dangerous conditions in the world. the latest available data says in the reported in average, 77 rape cases daily in 2020. so what's causing this epidemic of violence?
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and is enough being done to ended. we'll ask swati, molly, well, who is the chairperson of the delhi commission for what? the what the molly? well, thank you so much for joining us on upfront. can you explain some of the main forms of fem aside and how they affect everyday women? i would like to just explain to you what all is actually happening. i had the daily commission for them and it is a stature to the party in india. and every day in delhi itself, fix rapes are happening. 8 month old baby was recently the them, the capitan, and i had gone and visited the good the way she was bleeding. she was in an intensive care unit, the entire hospital, the entire nurses, everybody, the doctor. i mean, we, every, every one had to put in so much effort in order to just save that child. an 8 month old baby was draped a 90 year old girl, a woman is raped for the kind of rapes and the kind of sexual crimes that are
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happening in the concrete are your lead. you need to fix everything from domestic violence to being discriminated in your workplace, to sexual harassment in the workplace, to cyprus, talking to you know, the child being killed in the womb which sells. all of these kind of crimes are happening on a very big not scale in the country. and i think even world over optical with the kind of domestic violence, incidences that have increased everywhere across the world. it is quite sad. and even in india, the number of cases have gone up like it's been quite back. indeed is somebody the latest available data says in india, 29.5 percent of women have experienced physical violence since the age of 15. and in 2018 india was named the most dangerous country in the world to be a woman due to the high risk of sexual violence and slave labor. what's the root of this? i think
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a lot of self patriarchy and massage in the lake. and in the country all kind of sexual women, since that man actually feels very, very far from he seems that he can get away with anything. and in the india, especially the justice systems are full back that people actually have more feel they feel that they can get away with all kinds of avoidance and crimes. and that is, i think, got the major cause of all these issues. another thing is that opportunity. sions, i think there's a complete lack of in all, most politicians actually, many of them, they get away with bitty bitty, shameful statements. recently we had but the government's chief minister, who said that that really happened because good, very short codes. similarly, there are people who say that happened because goods are having mobile phones, they see that's going to be happening because going, eating go, how can we orders?
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so all kind of statements made by these, from the political and they actually get away with it. so i think what caused like the world over, if patriarchy uninstall jeanie and the failure of the system to put any kind of checks against in 2020 delhi, the national capital reported more rapes than the other union territories. in india, you're part of a. p. has been leading the government of delhi since 2015 and promised to ensure the safety of women what's happened. i think of just the fact that particular state is reporting more cases doesn't mean that the crime in that particular state is more. i don't agree with that because you see at least in delhi, the reporting is happening. you have states like those days, you have state, other states in the country where reporting is not there. people are not even having, having the courage to come up to the police station to report and even the well this is feeling to report these cases. so i think it does not bode daily. i think
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it is about the entire country and the situation remains the same everywhere. right? but why do you assume somebody, let's assume that that's the case and there is no more dangerous in any other place . the question still remains. if the a p ran and is committed to ensuring the safety of women has it failed to do so. and if so, why? for i'm not saying the daily is less dangerous than other places in the country. i'm seeing all places in the country including daily, are equally dangerous, as far as the me party government, as far as the, the legal guns concern. you see that the ready of your state of affairs in the national capital are the law and order of the national capital doesn't come under the on let me party. it comes into the central government. that's that. i think that all parties of the country, everybody, all political leaders of whether it is mr. me will be with mr. case re while
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everybody has to come down together. i'm actually help this issue somehow made sure that systems are in place. but let's get to the forces that accountability is that, that some kind of message is given to criminals. that if you do any crime, you will not be spared. and within 6 months there is going to be, you know, you will be given the punishment. so i think strong system think to be made and i think all governments have to come together to be able to do what role can or should the police play? do you fund a mentally trust the police to properly respond to the issue of sexual violence against women? we have to trust systems. we have to just create better a system that has to be trusted. it's just that they need to be a bit accountability needs to be fed daily. this has been demanding for the past 13 years. 66000 bullets both know from the central government and it has failed to get a me. i had to sit on a 10 day, 13 day, long hunger strike in order to get free call him for the state of daily. but how
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many have more hunger strikes to people like us have to do in order to get what is the do of the daily lives, but not just stack the forces aside. the fact is that if they're not accountable and if we just add more than forces to them, nothing will change. so i think it is important. but accountability set that resources are given. i'm systems are created. you see if you create good system, but you're going to be delivered and i think your point about systems, an accountability, but there's also an idiot. logical piece of this. for example, in delhi, over have a police officer surveyed said they believed either a high or a very high amount of gender based violence. complaints were false in motivated. so even if we add more police and make them more accountable and be funded, really, don't believe women will any of it matter? of course, the entire system right, from the quality sion site from the police, from the doctors and nurses, everybody, the entire system needs to be sensitized. but how do you sensitize a system like that? how do you send today's so many people in one goal?
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you do it by creating the systems. so if a woman comes and reports a case to willis station, right from the time the 1st bullets officer meet that woman, the time, her case is actually the can, the conviction happens. the entire system needs to be made more sensitive. if you ensure that an 8 month old baby was raped, if feel, ensure justice to hard with them 6 months to the justice system through the live, through all of the, of different people who have different roles in this process. that this when there will be a message in the society that you cannot go, you cannot just get away with times against women. let's circle. it just looks like you in 2019. you went on a 12 day hunger strike, demanding the death penalty for individuals who are convicted of raping minors. but according to the death penalty information center, there hasn't been any conclusive evidence that the death penalty reduces crime. in
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fact, the un high commissioner for human rights has said quote, evidence shows that the certainty of punishment rather than its severity deter, is crime. how do you respond to that argument? a 5 year old girl was leapt in my country. ah, she was gang raped her eyes were gouged out. ah ha, each and every born in her body was 1st broken. she was triangle and then big killed her. what do you explain to her parents? what do you think justice looks like for them? so it's vile, my hunger strike. i fact one big one, so fact on a hunger strike, it lasted for 10 days on the 10th day, the government boston ordinance. that all cases off. crimes against women will be disposed off within 6 months. i'm in the midst of the rare cases and in the important cases in the cases where something really hard, if it has happened or the the death penalty will be given on the 10th day of my
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hunger strike. when this ordinance came, i broke my hunger strike again. i had to fit after a year and a half on another hunger strike for what if my question is about too far away from the question, which is if the evidence shows that the death penalty doesn't reduce crime, why do you still want it? i, it sounds like you're saying, and i want to make sure i'm, i'm characterizing your words correctly, that as a pun, as almost revenge that the death penalty is the proper response. that even if you knew that the death penalty, well, let me ask you differently. even if you knew that the death penalty wouldn't reduce the number of rapes that occur in the country, would you still support the death penalty in the cases that you described? all i'm trying to save my 1st and foremost reminder that each and every keys that justice should be delivered and it should be delivered in a particular time cream within 6 months. all of the processes they need to happen within 6 months and that that needs to be done after that. yes, i,
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i am talking on behalf of all the sexual assaults away both who mind meeting almost every day that bill has become my been and i think whatever the way the, whatever those to be might suggest. i think drastic time school for drastic measures. what needs to be done is you need to give strong punishment in each and every case. and yes, in cases which are completely horrific, which shock the conscience of the nation. certain very, very drastic steps like the bip and the should be. and that do punishment is not a form of revenge. what is important is that if the machine does, given a message, goes across to the people that they cannot get away with it. today, what is happening is that a person commits a crime, goes to the jail for a big comes out on bill, and then it's coming thing the spam horrific claim again and again and again. so how do you ensure that country as large as ours, how do you ensure that there are systems that are in please to ensure that people have that kind of fewer, that they cannot get away with crying?
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i want to increase accountability of live. i want to increase for that. i want better 46. i want better osha the homes. i want to have a dish. and so both the systems and boulevard needs that one is, you know, trying to fight for and job. i very strongly believe in systems. i believe that if justice is delivered in time, a lot of change can happen than that before to fight before. so i will, i will thank you so much for joining us on upfront. the trans phobia is rising in the u. k. hate crimes are increasing every year. hostile rhetoric dominates the media coverage of trans people, and despite prime minister boris johnson's pledge to ban conversion there, the government continues to delay reforms some on both the left and the right side of the political spectrum argue that trans rights are a threat to women's rights just how dangerous is it to be transgender in the u. k. and is transformed in the media, making things worse. joining me to discuss this are christine burns,
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editor of trans britton and nancy kelly, chief executive of stonewall. the u. k based l g b t q plus human rights organization. thank you both for joining me on upfront christine, i'm going to start with you. before we talk about the situation in the u. k. could you briefly explain what we mean by these terms and trans people? yes, certainly not. the way we understand trends these days is as to cover any people whose sense of themselves dinner in the language which have just has binary opposite of man and woman is opposite to the way they are presumed to be on the basis of how they were assessed. at birth, so i'm a trans woman because i was identified as a boy when i was born. and when later when i grew up, i told people, no, actually i'm a woman. and this people then are those whose since the self or i didn't gender
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identity aligns with their biological assignment. ember. that's exactly right. you've got it right. christina. the council of europe, that's europe's leading human rights organization. recently criticize the u. k. along with poland, hungary, russia, turkey for arise and hate speech violence and hate crimes against l. g b, t. i. people, a recent report by the organization found online abuse against trans people, harmful political and social discourse about trans rights, and a sharp increase in transfer. but crimes in the u. k. why is the u. k, so hostile to trans people? the mysteries all of us. it wasn't widespread until extremely recently. as late as 2017, we made steady advances further trans people in britain with legislation that protected our employment rights. our right to be served in shops and use other
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services. and of course, the, the gender recognition act, which i was part of bringing forwards in 2004, which provides legal recognition to trans people. and most importantly, is designed to enable a trans women like me to change my originally issued birth certificate. so that if somebody asked to state that most fundamental identity document, then i'm not immediately out it because as you can see, most of the day when i walk around in, in this world, people don't know i'm trans unless i choose to tell. but if you were going to jump in, i was so if i can just build on that, i think one of the things it's really important is to am kind of separate out the public conversation about trans people and trans rights in the u. k. so media politics from the attitudes of the general public's the attitudes, the general public can, the u. k. are 40 very positive and younger people, women hot more highly educated people are all much more likely to,
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to view trans people positively and to be supportive of equal rights for trans people and anti discrimination protections for trans people em and really being transferred be can you case is a kind of minority position as some great research from the quality human rights commission that shows it's about it's about one in 6 people in the u. k that a trans phobic. so what's distinctive about the u. k, i guess is, is the tone of our national conversation about trans people given the fact that actually generally speaking of public, a pretty excepting was, are such a gap between the public media discourse in the disposition of everyday people. yeah, i would blame that directly on our media a we made all these advances. we changed the law many times to make life safer. the trans people overpaid about 15 years in the beginning of the 19 ninety's until the gender recognition act in 2004. and most people didn't even notice we were there
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because we don't impinge on people's lives. we. we just want to get on with having private lives and, and it wasn't until about 2017 that a conflicted campaign was launched with certain of britain's newspapers and newspapers in particular making a big issue that suddenly we went to having with some newspapers, trail for articles very negative article. yeah, i'm reading some of the headlines a week. yeah, i'm reading some of the headline. yeah. in the u. k. press, they point to a so called trans lobby. a headlines have claims like lesbians facing extinction. the cancellation of women is bigger than a culture war and shoot and the children are being, quote, sacrificed to appease the trans lobby. nancy, when we hear that kind of rhetoric, and as christine said, it's emerging in the recent time. oh, what's driving it,
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what's pushing it at this juncture in history? i mean, i think it's in a way this is about the way the media functions, right? this is about the degree to which a story becomes a story. and then proliferates and particularly proliferates through social media sources as well. and i think it's important to think about both the volume of content we've got in the u. k. m. and the nature of that content which christine was pointing to. so our press regulator saw that between 229-2019 you see a 400 percent increase in coverage of trans people and their lives. and. and that's just kind of too much to be talking about such a small population. so we should, we should start with by a christine in the u. k. some of the most vocal voices who see including trans people in the struggle for equality as a problem. are people who identify as feminists, they've been called trans, exclusionary radical feminists or turfs, one of the primary arguments. and what about those arguments is problematic in your
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estimation? well, let's begin by saying that i think increasingly we don't regard the people using heaven is them as a cover, as, as being honest about what they're doing because this isn't feminists. and if you go back to the 19 seventy's and the merchant says, a 2nd way feminist them on both sides of the atlantic, trans people and feminist women had an enormous amount in common because we are, we both suffer some of the same problems with the attitude to society towards our bodily autonomy and having a voice. so we've, we've always had, had things to, to work on together. but i would characterize this is a bit like people wrapping themselves in the trappings. all christian religion in order to practice white supremacy or, or whatever other line they want to take. i don't think the people we're talking
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about really are feminists. and they figured it was if they were going to tackle the a successful lesbian, gay, bisexual, and trans people, then they should begin by trying to ship one of those letters off the block cursing . but let me, let me push you on that just a little bit because while you're absolutely right bit there are people on the far right who have strategize to push trans sieves out of the conversation entirely, where there are others who are being given the label, turfs, who would self identify as feminists who would follow a generally feminist politics? i would say that they support trans rights their critique would simply be that there are certain experiences. identities are points of view that says gender, women and girls have to navigate that are different than that of transfer. we, since congress is to contradict rollin, we've seen a come from writers, i reminded the chief and then, and they would say that their advocates,
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the trans rights. how do you make sense of those types? arguments which seem distinct from the people who are actually framing trans to what, as a problem per se. well, i mean, this isn't a model it, i think it's a, it's a very wide camp. there are people who are yet just take on the trappings of feminism, as i've said. and they're all feminists who may be have yeah, misunderstood, and past we haven't talked enough. and some of the, some of the lines that are being said, you asked me before it, what are the arguments? i guess this is the principle one seems to be that somehow i can never be a woman. and as a result of that, i am a threat to anybody using a single sex space like a restroom or a or changing room, or anywhere that women are yet to get habit. have
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a space it is for women only. and that is, that is advanced by high pain. the idea that somehow because i was once regarded as a man, i've got some sort of evil essence of man inside me that i can never be rid of. ah, if i had man essence inside me, i did remain demand. oh, nancy christine talked about this idea of chopping the tea off of l g b t q, or l g, b, t r i. they're groups that are doing that very directly and intentionally. for example, groups like the l g b alliance, right? they advocate very openly for lesbian, gay and bisexual says, people, but specifically not the trans community. um, given the shared history of trans gay and lesbian people in regards to the broader struggle and the advancement set of made of the last decade, how is this kind of truncation happening song or have these divisions intentions
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always existed and the broader public just hasn't known about it. so we're, we're a diverse community. the boutique humidity. you're always going to have the kind of diversity of use in a range of feelings. and it would be treat, say in the u. k. and all around the world that trans inclusion is the norm in the outer b t q plus community. it's not that that on em, lesbian, gay by people who am don't hold that few who do want advocate only for says people's rights, but it's, it's not the most kind of common perspective. we've always fought for our rights together. we've always been in community together and when we've succeeded with succeeded because we've worked together and i think globally, the algebra, kiki rights and movement feels more strongly than ever that it is together that we should advocate for better outcomes for all of us. really, christine, in everyday life, trans people are forced to navigate. all sorts of processes are government processes, bureaucratic processes that can make it more difficult to live. as your express
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gendered identity him, you get one example just with the birth certificate, but there are many like that. can you walk through some of the challenges of everyday life? well, without doubt, a lot of things got easier since the, the gender recognition act generally because of the more social changes. but the difficulty is that we have phases to our lives. when i 1st transitioned many, many years ago, i didn't look as i looked now for a period of time. i looked obviously trans. and that means when you do anything, i'm just going down to the local supermarket to buy a pint of milk. it can be a really difficult situation for people, particularly when all the newspapers on the, on the news stand, a blaring that that person is, is a problem. and so searching them with being
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a p to file or a rapist. and they can't go buy clothes in the shop because you want to try them on . somebody will get afraid that they are going to to do harm. so they're all yeah it's i think the experience is tend to be very individual and personal, but they have certainly got worse because of this rhetoric christine nancy, thank you so much for joining us. a little front. thank you. all right, that's our show up for. we'll be back next week. ah ah
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