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it usually takes time and effort. oliver. it's intricate, delicate work taking patience some time. but the finished war can be, does ling delightful. and despite the challenge is the craft is facing. it's what motivates we're ramadan to continue with abdougla had elijah's utah beaudet. ah. okay, help on the, on the 2nd through the headlines you as president joe biden and vice president. com la harris have issued warnings about the fragility of america's democracy and how it must protected that who was speaking on. what is the one year anniversary of the attack on capitol hill in washington dc. former president, united states of america has created and spread a web of lies about the 2020 election. he's done so because he values
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power over principle because he sees his own interest is more important than his country's interest and america centers. and because his bruised ego matters more to hamden our democracy or our constitution, he can't accept. he lost you know, the headlines and explosions and gunfire been heard in catholics. dan's biggest city a day off the dozens of protest as an police were killed. a russian led to military alliance is not deploying troops to catholic stone. demonstrative stormed public buildings, the government has been dismissed, and there is a state of emergency in place as well. rusher is holding this was finance and decades inspired from outside. while the us calling for talks couldn't act to do your loss, we are deeply sorry for the loss of life and context on the violence must be stopped. we are also cooling for restraint from all parties and
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a peaceful resolution of the situation. now obviously the e u is ready and willing to put dialogue in the country. house of parliament has approved tough cove at 19 measures. after 3 days of intense debate, the bill would make vaccination mandatory for people in most public places and australia, tennis star, never joke of it, just fighting against deportation. he arrived to play in the strait and opened grand slam tournament, but authorities refused to accept his exemption. from the pandemic entry rules, his lawyers are appealing the decision and welfare prices of it a 10 year high. the you and the food and agriculture organization found prices jumped 28 percent in 2021 and increased blamed on poor harvests and increasing populations. we are back with a news hour in about 25 minutes time next inside story, with kimbell. ah,
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violent demonstrations in kazakhstan sparks by rising fuel prices in an oil rich nation protest is now call for leadership change. russia responds to the president, leave the health and fence truth. so what was behind the unrest in this almost soviet republic? this is inside story. ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm kim vanelle. a russian lead alliance has deployed troops as peacekeepers to kazakhstan after the president asked for help to quell mass
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demonstrations across the country. they began on january 1st after the government announced a sharp increase in fuel prices. indignation and violence followed in an effort to calm the unrest, the government resigned. the president then declared a 2 week nationwide state of emergency, the shop down of the internet. but still the protest escalated into calls for a change of leadership. demonstrations say they've run out of patience or presence cason jamal took i if is blaming the unrest on foreign actors. oh, what a grover's east your lives in. what is dia journalists and blockers? many versions of what's happened to you have been told. you have to understand what's happened to the coil springs now been unleashed after 30 years. look, all of us have been fired upon them and all of us went through these things. but none of us wants to kill or put pressure on another person. please come here and see it with your nice. we show you the face of a new country and you should witness it for we cassock,
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people have patience. so stop it was sick of this look, soldiers advancing here or to let them see it all. stay with us and let us see where it goes into this year. but when you read, sir, the terrorist mobs are essentially international, only they're under one serious training abroad, and their attacks of kazakhstan you can be and shouldn't be viewed as an act of aggression. not for this reason relying on the collective security treaty, i reached out to the heads of the collective security treaty organization states to assist kazakhstan and overcoming this terrorist threat was and reality. it is no longer a threat. it is undermining the states integrity. and most importantly, it is an attack on our citizens who are asking me as the head of the state to help them immediately. lastly, rushes foreign ministry. he said it was closely monitoring the situation saying in the statement, we advocate the peaceful resolution of all problems within the constitutional and
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legal framework and dialogue, rather than through st rides, the violation of laws. adding that it was the aim of cassock, president cousin jamal tuck i if to stabilize the situation and resolve existing problems quickly, including those contained in the legitimate demands of the protest is speaking. on behalf of the un secretary general stefan to jericho urged restraint following with concern in monitoring the situation. oh, in kazakhstan, i think it's very important for all involved. oh news, current events to exercise restraint, refrain from violence and promote oh dialogue in addressing all the pertinent issues. and father reaction came from the white house which denied any involvement in the protests. we're monitoring reports of protests and kazakstan. we support calls for com. for protesters to express themselves peacefully and for authorities to exercise restraint on, there are some crazy russian claims about the us being behind this. so let me just
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use this opportunity to convey that is absolutely false. and clearly a part of the standard russian disinformation playbook. we've seen a lot of in past years we're calling st on is an oil rich country in central asia. it's the thighs of western europe with an ethnically diverse population of 18000000 people. it gained independence from the soviet union in 1991. but it remained a close ally of russia which brought it to the north, cause exxon is also a crucial transport hub for chinese products. heading to europe from the east. it is kept a delicate balance between its neighbors and the west, especially the united states, which it sees both as a potential force for trade and investment. and as a partner to balance the influence of russia and china in central asia. ah, it's now bring in our guests from prague. we have bruce pannier, veteran journalist and correspondent at radio free europe specializing in central
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asia. for belle, great, we have victor on a which, who is the lead expert at the center for actual politics? and on the line from al marcy conflict sounds largest city. we have a cea to the sofa who is a political activist. very welcome to the program to you all. now the reason that she is on the phone line is because the internet has been caught. ah, so it makes you know, doing the zoom very difficult as well as getting information out very difficult. ah, that's come to you 1st as the i just saw it was the latest there on the ground in terms of these protests and in terms of the reaction to them. while we are currently on lock down, the everyone is we are advised to stay home because it's not safe to be on the street to, to a so called anti terrorist operations. that is in progress. what do you make of
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these assertions? i see that from the president that these protests are coming from foreign, actives terrorists who are causing this on rest. ah, you see everything is so unclear now, but there are definitely for 2 years, the chromecast and their own interest, which i'm not sure. and we're all caught up from each other and we have no reliable information to judge to have like a complete understanding of the situation of the situation. ok, our, their protest is, who from kazakhstan, are they among the people? the many thousands of people were looking at right now who are out on the street. you know, they're just, you know, it's, it's some people just people just simply protestors who like, came to i mean,
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angry people who have just been just, you know, it's a mix right now. it's hard to tell who are on the streets. i mean, the process started as a peaceful process like 2 days. it was a peaceful march on the street. of like it started somewhere in the west of the city and then the people peacefully march towards the city city hall. and they were faced with a tear gas and and apparently it's caused it turned at like a peaceful module into into, into vida,
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which is what we're looking at. the pictures we're looking at right now. ok, i want to cross over to bruce patio, who is in prague. explain 2 of you is how the country has gotten to this point. why are we seeing these protests now? you know, i, me ever, the, it started out of course with the, with the protest in the bar was to respond with the higher the price of fuel that was double. there was just involved a few dozen people in an oil workers town called john. oh, you know, would that the rule point watershed moment? i think for this study is probably march 2019 when they change president. first, president nurses are bias step down from our up to 20 years as a country leader. and he handed over a power to his to his own chosen successor customs among tomorrow. at that point, i think a lot of people figured that this was going to be a moment when context on took a turn to a different direction a little bit. you know that some were for
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a long overdue reforms. will be implemented center living with start to improve more, you know, what really none of that happens since that, i mean some changes or not, but not much. that's why it's interesting that you know, these protests when they started. and as they gathered seen, the demands that people were making, we're really the demand that we've been hearing for a couple of years now. they wanted more. busy of the read a role and the political system in picking their own leaders. and this was specifically something that people pointed out when there were some local officials to talk to the protesters. they would say we didn't have a chance to elect you. you're not elected officials and when a recognize you, this is not new, something that's been more repeated in the last few days, but it's not a new compliant at all, you know, honest, as far as like, you know, increasing wages because inflation is going up. of course, these things are all common common demand that they've been making for a long time to do this foreign influence because the complaints are absolutely domestic and they've been that no, that was my next question before we move on. here was then the spread of these
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protests from this one region to the rest of the country. was that a surprise at all then? and what should we may cause of the president's response or for? well, yes it was. i mean, i gotta admit, it was a surprise there been a lot of strikes and a lot of protest in western college. certainly last year. ah, you know, so the fact that it went all the way from the west to the east and really was in every major town and city and all that stuff was, was definitely a shock. when you know that the authorities did try to make some concessions. but this was an old tactic for them of giving, giving something to the protesters, who said some of this on russ. it's been summary for a couple years. i think it just needed you know, something to spark it. and that's really what we've seen in the last 4 days. right? we're cross over now to belgrade, where we have victor rich, how is the russian president vladimir who she likes to be viewing these developments? well, this has the steering events in kazakhstan, it has been
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a surprise unexpected. it's an unexpected turn of events for moscow. and it comes at a sensitive time when moscow is preparing for negotiations with the united states and with nita on the security guarantees in europe and on the ukraine. this is hardly going, it's hardly going to make rushes negotiating position stronger. in fact, if fresh is involvement in, in kazakhstan, through the collective for security 3, you can use ation. if it goes sour. ah, this will negatively impact this will weaken russians position in the upcoming negotiations. so this is definitely not something moscow was looking for, especially at this time or at any time because it's done is an important ally. for moscow. it is the largest state and central asia. it is the both
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territory ally and the economic way is the 2nd largest country in the region economic union where russia dominates. and so for russia, it is very important to keep because next on both a member of the, your asian economic union, and the member of the collective treaty organization to collect a security breach organization. so when russia saw that the situation in kazakhstan was getting out of control and it was happening quite fast. and when russia deemed that the cause of leadership was unable to deal with the situation, calm of the situation on its own. and when the president of because extent archive essentially issued
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a call for the collective security teacher organization to intervene in russia bill or so, i mean, yeah, and several other states agreed to do so. now, there are several other important points as to what's going on in kazakhstan that have still not been leads. of course, the trigger for the current situation of wars, the as correctly pointed out, was the year increase in gas prices. however, the president of cause, i spent 5, he has essentially used these for this to be able to use this critical this crisis to sideline and essentially remove the former president of the national tunnels or a buyer who still had an important position in because extent is the head of the nation security council, and the as a, as a so called by the father of the nation are all because it's time for several
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decades. he has been able to remove him from catholic stance political here. but wondering whether the model wasn't, there wasn't a lot of the anger or some of the anger from the protest is directed at the former president. exactly, exactly, and it is very interesting that that angle has been channeled effectively channeled by the cure and present of cause like stung by 5 to both remove another by have from the political landscape of cars extend and also you move in as a buyer's colleagues. those who were loyalists from the government essentially, when the 3rd day of for this talk i have announced the resignation of not a bias. close l i, i, scott, my mean who was the prime minister of course x done and put his own ally in his place. in that means place ok, they took 5,
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they moved to the head of the national security committee, was also not that a bias ally. so this is a transformation of coverage in a political way also. and the cry of at 1st was interested in that we used the sport s directed against another buyer in his own favor. but at this point some of the protest got out of hand and took i have needs, needs assistance from abroad. ok, he said, we will come back to you in a moment. i want to go back down the line to see it over who i believe we still have on the phone from last 8. if you can hear me, i just want to ask you some of the reasons why people have been so angry in terms of the cost of living. i mean, it's interesting that these protests started, you know, in an area which was experiencing a boom energy boom. and yet those same people are struggling with the rising cost of fuel. so just talk me through some of those reasons why people have been
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taken to the streets. yeah, i mean it's just, i think it's a, it's a cumulative sort of the protocol accumulated over the years. because for the past years and even decades, people have made countless attempts to have a peaceful dialogue with the government. and they protested, book fair pay protection of land for elections and living conditions. but i think none of their demand have never been addressed. and over the years, all attempts were suppressed and was many participants killed or put to jail or maybe terrorists and i think it's, it's what is happening it just yeah
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. good question. do you, did you did answer answer my question. it is, it's accumulated over time. i'd like to cross over to prague bruce penny. i was interested to see the spokesperson for the russian president said that no foreign forces should interfere in cosmic stones affairs. what should we make of that? is that a threat? and what would the west ever respond? that's a distraction there's, there's really no evidence that any or courses have interfered and corresponds internal affairs in the last few days or, or, or even interested in doing that. you know, you pointed out that the discovery stands been, been fairly adapted balanced in its foreign policy between china, russia and the worst. no one in the west, one to see turmoil, instability and on any more than anyone in russia or china would want to see that either. so this is just one of those, you know, big illusions. create a bogeyman that you can point to for being with albums are and you know,
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that's what even in president because comments last night, all those that he referred to, you know, terrorist band to had been heard receipt for and training that you know. and again, there was, there's really no evidence to suggest that anybody that's been out on the streets and protesting is an agent of some foreign terrorist or anything. you know. so it's just one of those, one of those catch phrases that the crime one and not just the criminal brother countries, they're out there and say, well, you know, we don't want interference from outside. well, you know, that's, that's pretty big. and, and really there's, there's nothing to show that, that there is a truth for that. is there any eventuality? is there any turn of events that could happen in context on that would draw the west and you're saying that cause exxon has tried to play a diplomatic balancing game over the years? is there anything that might draw the, the engagement of the west? well, i really can't see that happening today. the truth, it's,
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the colors are still a long way in the world. certainly along with the united states, for example. you know, i think a lot of countries would be willing to help others start to get through a dramatic time help them sort out any turmoil that's in there. but you know what, you can imagine a western intervention really in any country and central asia, but certainly colleagues thought it would be impossible, logistically. it would be, it would be radically impossible. how would you bring any forces are already major in the amount of people are personnel, and because it's on, you have to all of the have to go through china or russia. and if you don't go through china or russia, then you have a long route to get in there. so it's really, you know, i think there's been an understanding for a long time between the west and college on the west is only able to help because it's done so much and both sides appreciate that. certainly everyone in the world wants to see a strong solver independent context on but they will stand on its own 2 feet and keep the same kind of relations,
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at least that it's already maintained with the worst for 3 decades now. so there's really no interest in stabilizing the situation in context on, but if it was the stabilizer, i cannot imagine there's a lot that any western country could do because the government really invited them in with russian and chinese acquiescence. victor, all of it, over in belgrade, let's cross over to you who were talking about china. how do you think china is going to be viewing these protest? i mean, the 2 countries share a lot land border and china has been increasing its investment into context on how do you think it's going to be viewing what's happening there now? well of course, sharon is also not interested in the cure and turmoil in kazakhstan, as you correctly pointed out, chain that has been expanded and gets economic influence in central asia including, you know, because i've done. and of course, frequently with economic influence comes creeps in political influence and the,
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the cause of society has been wide, sensitive about increasing chinese activity and chinese influencing their country. so on the one hand, china is not interested in the cure and turmoil. on the other hand, beijing understands that the introduction of collective security 3 children is ation forces. basically rush and bill or russian forces some or, i mean, you know, some others from central asia into cars next done will increase rushes influence and cause ex done and possibly, but then surely. sideline, chinese influence perhaps a little bit in that country of our however, since china is the interested in stability because it's done and that agent as a whole, of course it has a korea to that. it's also important to know that for russia, this peacekeeping mission, katie, is quite
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a few risks. if rush it is important for russian troops not to engage directly with cars. are protesters or, and not to get involved in a new in any real military action. because any such incidence could be interpreted and viewed by various opposition forces in cause i've done and outside the country in anti russian manner. so in fact, it's important for moscow throughout carefully here to show support, including with its 1st projection in kazakhstan, show, support to the ah, current president of the extent that the dr. and his government show support for stability. but at the same time, not to be he in, by the cause of population as, as a force from the outside that came in to pacify or to
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wage violence against because people. so that's very important. yeah, i want to actually, i want, i actually don't, you're saying that that it's very important how it's perceived by the cause like population on that note i want to ask, i see it really so, but how do you feel about russian bell? russian troops coming into cars. it's dawn. they say on a peacekeeping mission. i think it's, ah, i do believe, but we and, and our government, we need to put all our efforts to stop violence. that is taking place in my being and not the cds in congress. but definitely not by letting a russian or any other for an army carry out the so called anti terrorist operation against cause of people. all right, and we have to leave it there for a time with come to the end of the program. thank you very much. for joining us here on inside story, bruce,
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