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hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question a year after the riots at congress, just how fragile is democracy and the peaceful transition of power in the united states. let's get to the bottom line. ah, one year ago, hundreds of followers, a former president, donald trump attack the united states capital with a singular mission. it was to overturn the results of the 2020 election. how they thought the best way was to prevent members of congress from assembling on january 6th, 2021. to formalize jo biden's victory. the mob had been egged on by trump earlier in the day to quote save america because the election had been stolen. this idea still has a grip on many folks with recent poll showing that one 3rd. that's one 3rd of americans still believe that the last election was

a fraud. congress tried to launch a bipartisan investigation into the riots, but it was really quashed by senate republicans and now a watered down version continues in the house of representatives. and that's a tell tale sign of how divided american still are about the riots that can even agree on a name for the events of january 6th. was it an insurrection or just to stop the steel party? so today, one year later, the biggest question in american politics is, is the peaceful transition of power after more than 200 years of elections and transitions. we've been doing this for a while. is this something folks can't take for granted anymore? why are republicans and democrats still deeply divided over what happened that day? and can both sides agree that democracy means a fair and transparent process? even if your candidate loses today's show, we visits with the exact same folks we spoke to on that fateful day last year. in the 2nd part of the show, we're going to talk to republican strategist john fury. but 1st,

we're talking with democratic congressman joaquin castro, who represents the district of san antonio, texas. and was there on that fateful day, january 6th, 2021. when he barricaded himself, barricaded himself in a building on capitol hill, while trump fans stormed the united states capital jackson, castro. it's really great to be with you. i'm last year we spoke on that tension filled morning right after the certification of electoral college votes that certified that joe biden was president. it was very, very late in the night. you came on this show and you told us what had transpired. and at that time, you said that that was a coup attempt and i'm just interested in, in the last year. do you feel that that was what that was and what are the big lessons you've learned or seen since that fateful day? well, of the biggest lesson that i learned, and i hope that the countries learned is that we can't take our democracy for granted that we have to do everything possible to protect free and fair elections in the united states. and also because disinformation in american society,

really around the world is at an all time high. and that has led more and more americans to believe in donald trump's big lie. that he in fact, may have won the 2020 presidential election. so it's imperative for the congress to pass a h r one in h r 4, and make sure that we protect americans rights ago. and also, i still believe that it was an attempted cou. i know that over the past year, most often people have called it an insurrection and it wasn't insurrection. but it was also more than that. it was an attempt by supporters of the president eg dawn and encouraged by the president to stop the united states government from certifying the winner of the 2020 presidential election. and thankfully, they failed. you mentioned h r one and h r for which are elements of voting rights legislation. and from that, from at least the democrat or most of the democrats view,

sort of the way to preserve, you know, institutions around the rules of the game. and, and part of the complexity of american democracy that i want our viewers to understand is we have a federal system that some things are handled by states. some things are handled by the federal government. and traditionally, i think one of the push backs on each r one has been that states typically control the scaffolding and the foundation, the rules and norms of elections. but isn't h r one a federal ization of that process, taking it out of states and putting on the national, you know, the national state something that had been traditionally, you know, in states rights. yeah, i mean, 1st this legislation would fully restore the voting rights act. there are some states across the country that have been routinely decade after decade after redistricting. have been found to intentionally discriminate against different groups of people. and so part of this voting rights was lation would make sure that the voting rights act is fully in place to protect against that. but the other

parts of the voting rights legislation are actually things that are very popular with americans across political stripes. for example, ending partisan gerrymandering so that you don't have these space ship shape districts and chicken finger shaped districts all. busy over the country and the politicians are not picking their people, people get to pick their politicians, also taking dark money out of politics. right now. billionaires can go and contribute millions of dollars to different causes without ever having to put their name and let the public know who's behind that money. but also more practical things that fit the moment like or in credit to credibly practical important things like protecting against voter intimidation. protect you against the intimidation of elections officials, which we've seen a lot of in the last few years. i don't know if you've seen it, congressman, but there's an interesting pull out, a set of findings of the university of maryland and washington post. and one of them shows some numbers regarding the,

the pride in democracy among democrats. republicans independence, you know, it's pretty much consist, you're saying that basically 60 percent of democrats, 58 percent of republicans and 51 percent of independents are proud of their democracy. so this is a, you know, but i, but it raises the question of what is democracy depending on what which bucket you're in. is there a consistent understanding in this country, from your perspective, when you go out and talk to your republican constituents? i know you have some, you've got democratic constituents who vote for you, but how do they see that term in word today? hello, i mean, i think we're badly now in american society is just a lot of hyper partisanship but also disinformation. and quite honestly, i think the republican party is in a trance over this idea that donald trump spread, which was which equated democrats winning the presidential election or even winning other big elections like senatorial elections,

with voter fraud. they literally tried to equate democrats when elections with fraud. and whenever you start out at that point, it's very hard to have a sincere, earnest conversation about what free and fair elections mean. i think historically we've, we've shared this idea that free and fair elections should include everybody who has the right to vote their over 18 and so forth. but over the last few years, really since donald trump took the national stage, that idea that sheer idea of democracy has been under attack. you know, last year when you spoke, you said that you hoped that america's recovery from january 6 that, that healing that pulling things back together. that putting a spotlight on what happened on january 6th would be the north star for this nation that we would again restore our democracy, that america would become the north star for other nations that we're looking at us . i'm just interested in where you think things stand now regarding that north star

metaphor which i was very taken with at the time. but i just, you know, i just wonder if, where anywhere near that today. well, i think the world still looks to the united states as a north star for many things, but repairing our democracy as a work in progress. and that's why i think that the work that the attorney general has done, and the justice department of holding people accountable who try to interrupt the democratic process of certifying a newly elected president is incredibly important. the work that the select committee and congress is doing around january 6 and holding people accountable, including any members of congress who may have for dissipated or coordinated with the mob that righted and attacked the congress. i think that work is incredibly important to show americans and to show the world that when you mess with our democracy, you're going to be held accountable and that we will, we will be able to bounce back and have fully free and fair elections. congressman,

when we spoke a year ago, i could feel the stress of that moment from you. you told us what it was like to be in the capital that afternoon with what happened with, with writers storming, we had deaths happen, capital police. we had a protest her who was shot in the capital. did you worry that you or your colleagues would potentially be killed or, or, or other things happen to you? and do you worry about that now as we look forward, are we pass that moment? do you think or do you think we still see the bastion of american democracy in the u. s. capital is still a place under threat. you know, i looking back, i didn't understand that day the severity of or the really the gravity of the situation. i didn't understand the severity of the violence of the mob attack the capital police were the ones that obviously took the brunt of that. i remember

thinking that day because i knew that there were people that had come from all over the country for that rally. i was in my house office in rayburn with several staff members and we didn't know that they were going to come invade the health office buildings and there were people there from texas. so i didn't know if they were texas, they were going to come looking for me just like i'm sure other members of progress from their own states were wondering the same thing, you know, and so, yeah, i mean there's still, the capital is not been the same since then, and part of that is because of cove it, but part of that is because of what happened on january 6 and our democracy is not the same since january 6 of last year. and i'm hoping that in the coming months in the coming years, we can do everything possible as americans to get back to a place where we trust each other more. and that means accepting that there hasn't been this widespread voter fraud. there, there is a, this big lie that was created by donald trump. i think that we can get there,

but we're still very tense, tense time. well, actually walking castro, democrat from texas, we really appreciate you revisiting us, revisiting that tense time a year ago. thanks. so much for sharing your thoughts with us today. thank you. now we turned a long time republican strategist, john ferry, who's worked for decades with the congressional republican leadership. john, it's terrific to be with you. and i know you've heard my con my conversation with the congressman. look, i think both political parties as part of what makes them parties as they have litmus tests per thing. you know, if you're a democrat right now, whether it's voting rights, are your views on the filibuster? you know they're going to be sort, or how you feel about donald trump is going to be a litmus test on whether you're a true democrat. where does january 6th and what happened one year ago, which you and i spoke about fit as a litmus test in the republican party today. ah stake steve, and thanks for having me on. i think the january 6th, for most, for republicans,

is a distant memory. i think they're far more worried about getting their kids back into school, getting rid of those codes restrictions, getting the economy on getting a job. and i think there is some still some lingering loyalty to donald trump. i think that when trump said, ironically when he said, get a booster shot and get your vaccination with a lot of the republican base that really hurt him. but you know, true still has a big hole over the party, despite what he said and did on january 6, january 6, itself, for most republicans is not anything that they're all that concerned about. you just said something so important and interesting is that when donald trump told americans working members his supporters to go get a coven booster shot to take those shots, take that, don't deny any more. he sounded more like joe biden. you said he lost

a bit of popularity in the republican party. and this comes to a question about how each party sees gravity. how's it sees? what reality is? is there any chance when you talk last year about the republican party had become the party of the working class? and one of the challenges is had to be not just the white working class, but the working class abroad. and that the parties are actually composed that the democratic party is corporate and an elitist in new york finance. it was very answering insight, but i'm just wondering what can bring, do we need those 2 groups to see gravity of the same believe in the rules of the, of the game? or can they remain as divided as they are in american democracy survive? well, you know h l, meghan said, you know, the american people want democracy and they're going to get it good and hard and they're going to get a good hard this coming election. and then, you know, i think reality will be bad at out. bad about the 2 sides, and i think that's always been the case in america history and there's always been waving the bloody shirt for having these, you know,

a view of communism versus capitalism having kind of a sense of the red scares of the past reality. you know, is something that is battled out and litigated. i think the, the biggest problem we have with our democracy right now is an effort by some to silence voices in silence. freedom of expression. i think that if you look, look at what happened post january 6, the closing down of the capitol, where people could not come in and, you know, have meetings with their members of congress. if you see what's happened with twitter were, you know, actually pretty smart voices on the whole thing of co with are being silenced. you know, we don't have as vibrant a, a nationalist discussion as we, we need to have a to your point steve. you know, there are a lot of reality is out there that people are,

embrace summer conspiracy theories on the right. some are conspiracy theories on the left. you know, i think that ultimately we need to have a full some discussions. and i think one of the biggest problems we have is that people don't really trust the media anymore. i don't, i think that's probably true on both the left and the right. and you have a kind of a advocacy media either around the m s and b c or a o n on the, on the right. and you know, people are flocking to that because they want to hear what a confirmation of their own biases and no one's really kind of embracing the whole idea of free speech. and that is, you know, i think one of the biggest problems we have right now, one of the things it's unfolding is that there is a january 6 commission list. cheney is on it. there are some republicans on it, but they're not republicans that are necessarily aligned with the base today. and the question about accountability and response. he for january 6 sort of still lurks out there. do you know, put your head on the rug and say, well,

it doesn't really matter or, you know, if you, can, you kind of look at the differences. you've got a, a university marilyn washington post poll out there that finds that 60 percent of americans say donald trump, bears either a great deal or a good amount of responsibility for, for the insurrection, but 72 percent of republicans at 83 percent of trump, voter stacy bears just a little or even no responsibility at all. do you think that, that litigating that is ever gonna, is ever going to end and, and where do you as a republican strategist who doesn't stick his head in the sand? think that that where, where that process needs to go? well, 1st of all, let's start with what you called the insurrection. this was a, a riot. it was a bunch of people that overwhelmed the police. it and they were angry. i think that down from deserves some credit for making them angry. although he did say during the, during the riot that try to peacefully protest, i think that trump,

what prompted was stupid. i think i sent it. i thought at the time i wrote it at the time, i thought it was put in the c set himself up. and i think that there was just the lack of security at the capital was, you know, unforgivable on a variety of different fronts. i will say that nancy pelosi when she said that, jim jordan and jim banks and other members could not be on the 9 or the january 6th commission because they were to implicated i think she and she basically picked her own committee that kind of destroy the whole purpose of the committee, which was get to the get to the bottom of the, of the facts, trying to find out what actually happened. i mean, list, jamie, how i always liked, you know, she's, she's way out there and she's not really representing the republican party anymore,

adding things here in the same same token. so it would have been much more helpful . had she pelosi done, how has always been done, where the republicans get to choose their, their, their, their squad members, and the democrats get to pick their squad members and they look, you know, fight it out and have a legitimate committee. this is not a legitimate inquiry, and that's too bad because i think we do need that. i think we need to know, you know, on all sides. what the heck happened, and make sure it didn't happen. and i also believe that we should also investigate what happened with all those riots that happened during 2020 and why the people forget that the white house was almost breached and down from had to go in the bunker because people were worried that he was going to be in big trouble. those are legitimate inquiries that need to be kind of follow up on. and we need to have both sides kind of have the ability to do real investigations. and, you know, i, i looking at what happened post january 6. you know, you have to ask yourself,

has there been any effort to try to bring the country together by any of our leaders on either the right or the left and, you know, there really hasn't. i mean, i think if you look at what nancy pelosi is done, she's try to take advantage of this because she, she calls it like, well, you know, it's like the old red, bloody shirt. rice like the insurrection. and you know, i just don't think that's legitimate. i think we need to have some people who are leaders saying, listen, what actually happened and why were there was this allowed to move forward and why did we have the proper security? let's ask these questions. ronnie davis, who is a very legitimate and smart member of congress. ah, he is asking those questions and he wants to get to the bottom of it. and i hope that the we get has he has a chance to be the chairman and can follow up on cassandra davis is a very impressive person. we've interviewed him here before, and i hope i hope you're right on that. but i want to ask you something else that you've written lately, john, and i think you've said

a number of times is that you really didn't see donald trump actually running in 2024. and we can debate whether that will happen or not. but you said that the ghost of trump will continue to linger and be out there and just sort of interest that as we look forward, you know, to, to what degree does that pattern of what donald trump brought in? and the pattern, as you said, of a division of politics where democrats and republicans, you know, maybe with the exception of a jo mansion or something or not really investing heavily and trying to get back in that middle space. i'm just sort of interested as you kind of look at that and you see 2024 growing. who might be some of those that you would think or merge out of this. you know, toxic pit on the g o p side. either looking like donald trump clones, or standing and profile, you know, kind of boyles of donald trump. wow. see, let me tell you this night. i know that you, you take offense to this, but you are very good friend of joe mansion. and i think, i think if he changed parties in ran for ran for president,

he would do very well. you know, my mother is a big magic fan. let's just put it that way. i know you just need to have some leadership. some of the lead, who will bring the country together? that being said, i think a lot of republicans are, are looking through 2 lenses. one is, how did you handle coven? and i think that that really does disqualify president trump, and i think a disqualifies my parents. i like both those guys. i supported both of them. but the, the, the mishandling of cove, it is a real blot on both the presidencies of president trump. and i've jo, bye, and so i think if you look at something like that, iran, the santa is really kind of stands out and says, listen, you know exactly the right way. he, he, he did all the things that a republican would want to be handled with, with a lot of intelligence looking past the data, not giving everything to anthony valgy. now, from an outsider's perspective,

you know, you know, you really, it's a really, really good question. i, i struggle to find, you know, ted cruz is someone who has the people love him of the political base. you look back at another senator, a, someone like a tom cotton has that kind of national security thing. but what republicans have become, they become a party of working class voters who are not just white. if you look at the different numbers with right suspect voters, also african american voters and other potential candidate that is represents that working class of someone like tim scott. now the right doesn't really trust him as much, but he's a really smart leader who, you know, represents kind of the, the new vision of the republican party. so these are really good questions. thank. from my perspective. as you're not going to get someone who's going to unite everybody, but who has, who can kind of take the temperature down just a little bit. so can keep this country to go. or republican strategist, john ferry,

i always learn something. when i talk with him, thank you so much for joining us today or at least so what's the bottom line? democracy folks is not an exercise in columbia. it's more like a contact sport. sort of like australian rugby political players. well, they struck they bluster, they organized and strategize, and they often fabricate little fibbs or even big lies. they are performers prior to look legit in the eyes of their fans. usually those fans have high hopes for a better world. but sometimes they have grievances that make them angry. donald trump was, and he still is an absolutely extraordinary performer, and he's become one of the world's leading mice, grows of an orchestra of anger and fury. the currency of today's american politics and social media is this right? is it as it should be? absolutely not, but that's not the point. the point is that the frustrations of many americans have to be understood if americans democracy is going to survive. january 6 was an

earthquake that happens when a demagogue rises because of anguish to pick up the pieces that have to be cos on those who attack congress. otherwise it will happen all. busy over again, that should not be a partisan view. nobody wins if nobody can agree on the rules of the game. and that's the bottom line. ah, the silence has been distinct. beneath this eden is one of scandinavian largest iron or deposits. and it's driving a wedge between those seeking wealth and those defending their way of life. gallop a witness documentary on jesse ah,

revealing eco friendly solutions to come back. threats to our planet on al jazeera lou. hello, i'm emily ang window. how these, the top story is on al jazeera authorities in kazakhstan, say they've detained the former national security chief on suspicion of treason. after days of violent protests, the cause that president has told rash is laid out, the situation is stabilizing them rather than forest. dia walker has moved his departure today really cement.